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Link Posted: 1/29/2018 10:00:24 PM EST
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The ability to use cheap, reliable Glock 33 round magazines makes the PC carbine attractive.  If it used any other magazines, it wouldn't have nearly the appeal for me.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 10:01:12 PM EST
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The ability to use cheap, reliable Glock 33 round magazines makes the PC carbine attractive.  If it used any other magazines, it wouldn't have nearly the appeal for me.
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Yes.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 10:30:52 PM EST
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I did the Sportsman's outdoor superstore pre-order.  I got a few smoking killer deals from them last year, I don't mind paying $535 total shipped and transferred for one.  It comes out the same as a good price and MN sales tax, and god knows when I'll get one here.

I figure after paying $550 bucks to them for a Savage 6.5CM long-range hunter, and how damn good that thing shoots, I owe 'em some business.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 11:06:26 PM EST
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Oh fer fuck's sake.  It allows a red dot or a LER scope to be mounted on a SUB-2000, still use the irons, still fit in your jacket, and still walk into businesses w/ legal no pistol signs.

I expect a higher standard of firearms intelligence from someone in your position, given whom you work for.  Any dipshit in GD can go,"that's gay."  You're not a dipshit, and we expect more from you.
Link Posted: 1/29/2018 11:10:43 PM EST
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Got mine a week ago. Took it out yesterday. Shot various brand 115 grain through it with no issues. It did fail to lock back on last shot a couple times using factory Glock magazines. (I did not clean the gun beforehand, fwiw).

I did shoot 5 rounds of 147 grain handload through it at the end. It left me giddy as the rifle had almost no report. Seemed the clack clack of the bolt operating was louder than the report. I need a suppressor.
Link Posted: 1/30/2018 8:37:02 AM EST
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Not sure that is true. My RIA pistol came with a 22tcm barrel, and a lighter spring for that round. Also came with a 9mm barrel and spring which is slightly stiffer.
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But that's a tilt barrel lockup, rather than a blowback, right?
Link Posted: 1/30/2018 2:04:36 PM EST
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But that's a tilt barrel lockup, rather than a blowback, right?
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Not sure that is true. My RIA pistol came with a 22tcm barrel, and a lighter spring for that round. Also came with a 9mm barrel and spring which is slightly stiffer.
But that's a tilt barrel lockup, rather than a blowback, right?
Correct we covered that
Link Posted: 1/30/2018 2:09:58 PM EST
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A bad review in AR?
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They know how much arfcom hates the NRA leadership, and loves the PCC, so they are getting back at us...by hurting our feels
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:31:50 AM EST
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I picked up mine yesterday and like it. Got a couple Magpul and 1 Glock 33 round mag.
Have not shot it yet.

What is everyone using for optic's? I'd like to try my MRO but the Geisselle mount I have (forget which version) is to high. Would a low mount still be to high?

May run a burris FFII in the mean time.



Link Posted: 1/31/2018 10:13:58 AM EST
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I am going with a Triji RMR for mine , when it arrives.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 10:24:53 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/31/2018 10:45:52 AM EST
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Like a Marlin camp carbine without the appeal of wood.

No thanks.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 10:57:14 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:10:32 AM EST
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That ghost ring sight way up on the barrel is odd but I still want one
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Best way to keep it sighted in after a couple hundred barrel removals/installations, i guess.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 1:15:44 PM EST
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They'll sell tons in NY and CA when the neutered version ships.
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Like a Marlin camp carbine without the appeal of wood.

No thanks.
They'll sell tons in NY and CA when the neutered version ships.
it is CA legal as-is
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 2:14:45 PM EST
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it is CA legal as-is
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Like a Marlin camp carbine without the appeal of wood.

No thanks.
They'll sell tons in NY and CA when the neutered version ships.
it is CA legal as-is
Threaded barrel is ok?
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 2:16:58 PM EST
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Threaded barrel is ok?
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There is a non-threaded version.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 2:18:18 PM EST
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Threaded barrel is ok?
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Like a Marlin camp carbine without the appeal of wood.

No thanks.
They'll sell tons in NY and CA when the neutered version ships.
it is CA legal as-is
Threaded barrel is ok?
AFAIK, Kalifornia only prohibits threaded barrels on pistols.  Rifles can't have flash hiders, but I don't think there's a prohibition on threaded muzzles there.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 2:19:15 PM EST
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Got mine at Field and Stream today.  600 plus tax.  Very impressed with fit and finish. Texturing is very nice and doesnt feel like a cheap piece of plastic. Salesman didnt know what it was and said they arrived yesterday. 3000 serial range on mine. He said they have to have same number in all stores before they can display and sell.   Had 11 in stock minus mine.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 2:41:56 PM EST
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Like a Marlin camp carbine without the appeal of wood.

No thanks.
They'll sell tons in NY and CA when the neutered version ships.
it is CA legal as-is
Threaded barrel is ok?
On rifles it is fine, it's only an issue on pistols. Flash suppressors are banned but threaded muzzles and comps/brakes are very common here.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 3:06:09 PM EST
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I can confirm the TLR doest not fit with any insert. Rail spacing is weird
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 3:31:41 PM EST
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I can confirm the TLR doest not fit with any insert. Rail spacing is weird
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That is very odd, kind of makes it useless as an HD gun if I can't put a light on it. Is the receiver rail at least in spec?
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 3:49:02 PM EST
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That is very odd, kind of makes it useless as an HD gun if I can't put a light on it. Is the receiver rail at least in spec?
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I also tried one of those cheap lights from walmart A protec or something. Also does not fit. Area between front sling swivel and rail contacts the rear of the light causing the clamps to not fully engage the dovetail.  I could shave it but I will hold out for now
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 4:03:19 PM EST
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I put a spare TLR3 I had laying around on mine and it fit fine, what model did you try?
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 5:30:57 PM EST
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X300 fit fine, after taking sling swivel off.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 5:50:40 PM EST
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X300 fit fine, after taking sling swivel off.
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I wonder if lafmedic1 got a bad rail or something
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 7:15:57 PM EST
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I put a spare TLR3 I had laying around on mine and it fit fine, what model did you try?
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TLR one High output. its hitting the latch for the rear door that flips.  Sets the light at a very slight up angle
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 7:23:39 PM EST
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My rail.  Can someone post theirs.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 7:56:45 PM EST
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For those who tried lights and they didn’t work email Ruger do they can check it out and hopefully remedy it with future guns. Seems silly that wouldn’t have been checked. Wonder what they were expecting everyone to put on it?
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:02:15 PM EST
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Bipods.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:35:33 PM EST
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Mine

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Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:37:56 PM EST
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For those who tried lights and they didn't work email Ruger do they can check it out and hopefully remedy it with future guns. Seems silly that wouldn't have been checked. Wonder what they were expecting everyone to put on it?
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Yea seems like they could have added one more rail crosscut and it would have fit fine . Who puts a bipod that far forward on a gun with the potential for POI shift from pressure. Im emailing then now
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:48:45 PM EST
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Yea seems like they could have added one more rail crosscut and it would have fit fine . Who puts a bipod that far forward on a gun with the potential for POI shift from pressure. Im emailing then now
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For those who tried lights and they didn't work email Ruger do they can check it out and hopefully remedy it with future guns. Seems silly that wouldn't have been checked. Wonder what they were expecting everyone to put on it?
Yea seems like they could have added one more rail crosscut and it would have fit fine . Who puts a bipod that far forward on a gun with the potential for POI shift from pressure. Im emailing then now
ah, the issue is not enough rail space. I thought you meant the rail was out of spec. My mistake.

still not great but at least its plastic so you one could shave a bit off and not be out anything, or use a rail extension
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:55:53 PM EST
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Was racking my brain.  What type of rail extension are you refering. I need one that goes forward and not down. If no solution comes from Ruger I guess I will have to shave it . And as to the above pic that the same way mine is cut.  If I take the insert out of the TLR It fits but manual on the streamlight says not to do this because it will work free
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 8:57:51 PM EST
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I see a 45 degree offset will probably fix this but will put weiggt on the left sude
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 9:22:07 PM EST
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Was racking my brain.  What type of rail extension are you refering. I need one that goes forward and not down. If no solution comes from Ruger I guess I will have to shave it . And as to the above pic that the same way mine is cut.  If I take the insert out of the TLR It fits but manual on the streamlight says not to do this because it will work free
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I was thinking of using a thin/cheap riser of the correct length, or just one to add enough height to clear the offending plastic bits

short risers are very cheap
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 9:25:33 PM EST
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unscrew the sling swivel, then they should fit.  or will you be using the swivel?
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 10:32:07 PM EST
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Doesnt come close to touching the swivel.  Contacts the back before it reaches.  But I will try it .
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:09:28 PM EST
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Bipods.
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Yea seems like they could have added one more rail crosscut and it would have fit fine . Who puts a bipod that far forward on a gun with the potential for POI shift from pressure. Im emailing then now
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Yeah since most bipods just mount to the sling stud and not the rail maybe it was just a afterthought.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:12:19 PM EST
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Doesnt come close to touching the swivel.  Contacts the back before it reaches.  But I will try it .
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Doesnt come close to touching the swivel.  Contacts the back before it reaches.  But I will try it .
Tried it.  Angle only gets worse.  More I think about it Im guessing only a 1 inch mount with a surefire or streamlight will work. Dremel will come out unless ruger changes the fore end or magpul makes something better. I also suggested they use the side mount sling like an M1 carbine or G 3
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:22:35 PM EST
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I want want one, but watching the video of how it is taken down to clean is complicate. Got to use allen screw/wrench?

It never crossed their mind that is should be tool-less like an AR or 99% of the guns out there.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:33:50 PM EST
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Looks like someone has finally decided to make a shit ton of money selling mass produced PCCs that accepts Glock magazines.

Meanwhile, Glock ignores this market completely while it searches for ever more ways to fuck up the grip on Gen 6....
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Posts like this amuse me. God, himself, goes to Gaston Glock if a monetary loan is needed. Glock will do what he does well....sell more pistols than he can make. He's like 105, too. Yeah, he sweats bringing a carbine to the market.
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 11:36:14 PM EST
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Tried it.  Angle only gets worse.  More I think about it Im guessing only a 1 inch mount with a surefire or streamlight will work. Dremel will come out unless ruger changes the fore end or magpul makes something better. I also suggested they use the side mount sling like an M1 carbine or G 3
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Doesnt come close to touching the swivel.  Contacts the back before it reaches.  But I will try it .
Tried it.  Angle only gets worse.  More I think about it Im guessing only a 1 inch mount with a surefire or streamlight will work. Dremel will come out unless ruger changes the fore end or magpul makes something better. I also suggested they use the side mount sling like an M1 carbine or G 3
before you remove plastic try something like this

should give enough clearance to put any light on
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 11:04:15 AM EST
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While I know there is a work around this lowers the light to where its hard to reach . To me this is a simple issue that can be fixed by modding and by Ruger redesigning the front rail.  I knoe that takes a new mold but would you accept this on an AR if the rail was cut too high in the rear causing the sights not to work?

I circled the suspect area. Pistol light is not fully engaged and spring latch for battery compartment is now compressed. Not sure if this would work like this for a while before something broke. The light in the picture also has a laser which causes it to point upwards instead of inline with the bore axis

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Link Posted: 2/1/2018 11:47:44 AM EST
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While I know there is a work around this lowers the light to where its hard to reach . To me this is a simple issue that can be fixed by modding and by Ruger redesigning the front rail.  I knoe that takes a new mold but would you accept this on an AR if the rail was cut too high in the rear causing the sights not to work?

I circled the suspect area. Pistol light is not fully engaged and spring latch for battery compartment is now compressed. Not sure if this would work like this for a while before something broke. The light in the picture also has a laser which causes it to point upwards instead of inline with the bore axis

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Anyone tried other lights yet, like Inforce APL, APL-C, WML?

I hope they address it WHEN (not if, hopefully) they produce the integrally suppressed barrel, which would require a different handguard.
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 3:25:43 PM EST
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Anyone tried other lights yet, like Inforce APL, APL-C, WML?

I hope they address it WHEN (not if, hopefully) they produce the integrally suppressed barrel, which would require a different handguard.
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While I know there is a work around this lowers the light to where its hard to reach . To me this is a simple issue that can be fixed by modding and by Ruger redesigning the front rail.  I knoe that takes a new mold but would you accept this on an AR if the rail was cut too high in the rear causing the sights not to work?

I circled the suspect area. Pistol light is not fully engaged and spring latch for battery compartment is now compressed. Not sure if this would work like this for a while before something broke. The light in the picture also has a laser which causes it to point upwards instead of inline with the bore axis

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Anyone tried other lights yet, like Inforce APL, APL-C, WML?

I hope they address it WHEN (not if, hopefully) they produce the integrally suppressed barrel, which would require a different handguard.
Someone tried a different Streamlight and it fit. By the pics I'd GUESS my Surefire X300 would fit, but no way to be sure without trying. The Inforce WML rifle light looks very unlikely to fit due to how forward the rail attach point is and how far back the rear overhangs the rail interface section.

Honestly I'd rather just use the riser I posted, but shaving a bit of plastic off isn't really a big deal either. It's just a plastic handguard and I expect replacement's won't be too pricey if you wanted to get it back to the original look.
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 8:42:34 PM EST
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Whittaker's has some 17-rd threaded ones in stock
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 9:46:17 PM EST
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That sucks about the TLR-1s, is it confirmed a 1" mount with Light will work?
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 9:56:04 PM EST
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Not sure what I would shoot that a tlr3 wouldn't cover.
Link Posted: 2/1/2018 10:34:31 PM EST
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It would’ve been cool if the forearm was recessed there and they used an aluminum rail that could expand/retract for an extra inch.  Like a modified version of he CX4 mount.

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