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Posted: 3/14/2023 2:58:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now it’s a party! The Russians are dumb as fuck. America will retaliate although it’ll probably be in the form of advances weapons to Ukraine. Splash a drone? Here’s another 10,000 corpses to send home to mom. Have you seen how the Russians are conducting mine clearing operations in Ukraine? This was an aerial version of that. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 2:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The odd part is that certain people keep jumping into threads like this and declaring things that aren't so. No one cares about your "head canon" (aka delusion) unless they share it. In which case, I think the rest of us who don't share it would prefer you just go find a private place to share your fantasies. Maybe play with model trains and have some imitation crab meat or whatever. Not my business. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oddly enough? So normally the Ukie simps would be jerking furiously. Why not this time? The odd part is that certain people keep jumping into threads like this and declaring things that aren't so. No one cares about your "head canon" (aka delusion) unless they share it. In which case, I think the rest of us who don't share it would prefer you just go find a private place to share your fantasies. Maybe play with model trains and have some imitation crab meat or whatever. Not my business. That's weak, you're sad. 
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Posted: 3/14/2023 2:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is really unfortunate that I don't believe that there was a collision. I simply don't believe anything our government says anymore. Was our drone taken out by Russia jets and we don't want to escalate so we're blaming it on a collision? Ayup. I don’t believe a fucking thing our government and its msm says. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:00:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you missed the more important part of his statement. For context, someone (the Russians) put out a pretty retarded disinformation social media blurb a couple of weeks ago. "Why is there literally NO evidence of this supposed war in Ukraine?" Or words to that effect. Just hundreds of different twitter accounts, wordpress journalists, and others repeating the exact same quote in a short time frame. I wasn't aware we had anyone on arfcom who actually fell for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's pretty SOP and has been so since forever. We even had naval vessels observing the Russo-Japanese war, IIRC. I think you missed the more important part of his statement. For context, someone (the Russians) put out a pretty retarded disinformation social media blurb a couple of weeks ago. "Why is there literally NO evidence of this supposed war in Ukraine?" Or words to that effect. Just hundreds of different twitter accounts, wordpress journalists, and others repeating the exact same quote in a short time frame. I wasn't aware we had anyone on arfcom who actually fell for it. There were two or three variations and it did indeed pop up in GD verbatim. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:00:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI wonder if a Reaper can do a barrel roll.  Kharn |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you missed the more important part of his statement. For context, someone (the Russians) put out a pretty retarded disinformation social media blurb a couple of weeks ago. "Why is there literally NO evidence of this supposed war in Ukraine?" Or words to that effect. Just hundreds of different twitter accounts, wordpress journalists, and others repeating the exact same quote in a short time frame. I wasn't aware we had anyone on arfcom who actually fell for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's pretty SOP and has been so since forever. We even had naval vessels observing the Russo-Japanese war, IIRC. I think you missed the more important part of his statement. For context, someone (the Russians) put out a pretty retarded disinformation social media blurb a couple of weeks ago. "Why is there literally NO evidence of this supposed war in Ukraine?" Or words to that effect. Just hundreds of different twitter accounts, wordpress journalists, and others repeating the exact same quote in a short time frame. I wasn't aware we had anyone on arfcom who actually fell for it. I said months ago it wasn’t large scale war. It still isn’t. Not sure what was said a couple weeks ago. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now it’s a party! The Russians are dumb as fuck. America will retaliate although it’ll probably be in the form of advances weapons to Ukraine. Splash a drone? Here’s another 10,000 corpses to send home to mom. I don't think America will retaliate in any meaningful way. We've been playing fuck-fuck games with them in international airspace and international waters longer than any of us have been alive.  USS Caron getting rammed by the Russians in the Black Sea - Feb 1988 |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if a Reaper can do a barrel roll. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if a Reaper can do a barrel roll. Kharn 
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I said months ago it wasn’t large scale war. It still isn’t. Not sure what was said a couple weeks ago. Jesus Christ  eta: Just out of morbid curiosity, how many casualties do you think both sides have suffered? How many civilian deaths? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I said months ago it wasn’t large scale war. It still isn’t. Not sure what was said a couple weeks ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's pretty SOP and has been so since forever. We even had naval vessels observing the Russo-Japanese war, IIRC. I think you missed the more important part of his statement. For context, someone (the Russians) put out a pretty retarded disinformation social media blurb a couple of weeks ago. "Why is there literally NO evidence of this supposed war in Ukraine?" Or words to that effect. Just hundreds of different twitter accounts, wordpress journalists, and others repeating the exact same quote in a short time frame. I wasn't aware we had anyone on arfcom who actually fell for it. I said months ago it wasn’t large scale war. It still isn’t. Not sure what was said a couple weeks ago.  |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:08:22 PM EDT
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I bet some butt-hurt drone operators are walking around like someone stole their bicycle. Gonna be a tough night at the bowling alley!
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus Christ eta: Just out of morbid curiosity, how many casualties do you think both sides have suffered? How many civilian deaths? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I said months ago it wasn’t large scale war. It still isn’t. Not sure what was said a couple weeks ago. Jesus Christ eta: Just out of morbid curiosity, how many casualties do you think both sides have suffered? How many civilian deaths? Not sure. I don’t believe either side. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet some butt-hurt drone operators are walking around like someone stole their bicycle. Gonna be a tough night at the bowling alley! What's another $32M? Just a rounding error. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:10:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Can the MQ-9 carry the Aim9x? And shoot aerial targets?
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can the MQ-9 carry the Aim9x? And shoot aerial targets? Is Russia and the US shooting at each other over the Black Sea what you want? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:14:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Russia and the US shooting at each other over the Black Sea what you want? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can the MQ-9 carry the Aim9x? And shoot aerial targets? Is Russia and the US shooting at each other over the Black Sea what you want? No just wondered if the drone can defend its self or it is just a target drone for other aircraft. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Russia and the US shooting at each other over the Black Sea what you want? Define "want?" |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:14:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can the MQ-9 carry the Aim9x? And shoot aerial targets? While it probably could carry one I think the time delay between it and it's controllers would likely preclude it's use short of some sort of automated threat detection and engagement system which I hope is not implemented...ever of course my understanding of the lag is based on asking a drone pilot at nellis on military day for the airshow at least a decade ago. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure. I don’t believe either side. Do you believe your own eyes? This is one of the most visually recorded conflicts in human history. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:16:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:16:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Should we assume that the drone has cameras in every direction?
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Either way Oswald had KGB assassination branch ties and the government feels the files are still too dangerous to make public. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It seems more likely the CIA did it than the Russians. Either way Oswald had KGB assassination branch ties and the government feels the files are still too dangerous to make public. Do you have any proof of this???? Any legitimate file, paper, folder, source, document? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:17:38 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you believe your own eyes? This is one of the most visually recorded conflicts in human history. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure. I don’t believe either side. Do you believe your own eyes? This is one of the most visually recorded conflicts in human history. 
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:18:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a difference between supporting Russia and not supporting a proxy war, but you choose the strawman. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ukie simps are jerking furiously over the prospect of escalation... The only simps in this thread are the ones who support Russia. There's a difference between supporting Russia and not supporting a proxy war, but you choose the strawman. @Laufen Tell your handlers that im sorry. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:18:42 PM EDT
[#25]
United States Press Beiefing from the Pentigon over the Russtion Two Su-27 Fighter Jets dumping fuel on hitting the repelled of the MQ-9 Reaper Drone over the black sea in international waters coursing it to crash into the black Sea
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:19:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: US European Command said two Russian Su-27 fighters intercepted the unmanned MQ-9 Reaper over international waters and one clipped its propeller. “Several times before the collision, the Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner,” it said. Absolutely Hilarious.  Lol, we are not a serious country. Also, he’d shit if he knew how much gas an average Navy air wing on deployment dumps every day. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:19:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Russia and the US shooting at each other over the Black Sea what you want? No, but Russia apparently already is. Are you saying the US shouldn't shoot back? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While it probably could carry one I think the time delay between it and it's controllers would likely preclude it's use short of some sort of automated threat detection and engagement system which I hope is not implemented...ever of course my understanding of the lag is based on asking a drone pilot at nellis on military day for the airshow at least a decade ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can the MQ-9 carry the Aim9x? And shoot aerial targets? While it probably could carry one I think the time delay between it and it's controllers would likely preclude it's use short of some sort of automated threat detection and engagement system which I hope is not implemented...ever of course my understanding of the lag is based on asking a drone pilot at nellis on military day for the airshow at least a decade ago. Interesting tidbit about the lag you mentioned. Sounds like they need to up their bandwidth on their contract
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:20:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was our drone taken out by Russia jets and we don't want to escalate so we're blaming it on a collision? I'm going to go with this. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:21:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe it’s armed with a 30mm gun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not an aviation engineer, but I would think that a mid air collision would also bring down the Jet. I believe it’s armed with a 30mm gun. Minus the big guy's 15% means only 25 of those mms make it to the front line |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:21:43 PM EDT
[#31]
We were caught providing direct US troop support to the Ukrainians. The correct response by Russia is to escalate to direct action against the U.S. forces in the area while signaling to the Chinese to escalate their efforts by invading Taiwan while both release their records detailing FJB’s criminal actions.
If they both act, Joe, Joe the dancing clown will fold like a cheap tent and both enemy states can keep what they kill. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF are we doing flying drones over the Black Sea. Getting intel on Crimea.
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Live DOD presser on now. Any video? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:22:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you believe your own eyes? This is one of the most visually recorded conflicts in human history. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure. I don’t believe either side. Do you believe your own eyes? This is one of the most visually recorded conflicts in human history. I haven’t seen anything with my own eyes. I’ve seen some high production quality videos of random attacks. As long as major cities are still operating somewhat normally, it’s not a full scale war. More like an insurgency/counterinsurgency like we saw in Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:23:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Some of you thinking the DoD is not being truthful in as much as trying to deconflict the event?
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:24:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any video? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Live DOD presser on now. Any video? Now that the Russians said that they didn’t have any contact with the drone, I guarantee you’ll see the video by tonight. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:24:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: United States Press Beiefing from the Pentigon over the Russtion Two Su-27 Fighter Jets dumping fuel on hitting the repelled of the MQ-9 Reaper Drone over the black sea in international waters coursing it to crash into the black Sea How drunk are you? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:24:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We were caught providing direct US troop support to the Ukrainians. The correct response by Russia is to escalate to direct action against the U.S. forces in the area while signaling to the Chinese to escalate their efforts by invading Taiwan while both release their records detailing FJB’s criminal actions. If they both act, Joe, Joe the dancing clown will fold like a cheap tent and both enemy states can keep what they kill. An ISR platform flying in international airspace is direct troop involvement? LOL You know not what you speak of. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:24:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We were caught providing direct US troop support to the Ukrainians. The correct response by Russia is to escalate to direct action against the U.S. forces in the area while signaling to the Chinese to escalate their efforts by invading Taiwan while both release their records detailing FJB’s criminal actions. If they both act, Joe, Joe the dancing clown will fold like a cheap tent and both enemy states can keep what they kill. Got any evidence for that? |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:25:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is really unfortunate that I don't believe that there was a collision. I simply don't believe anything our government says anymore. Was our drone taken out by Russia jets and we don't want to escalate so we're blaming it on a collision? "Ding ding ding, tell'em what he's won Johny !" |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t seen anything with my own eyes. I’ve seen some high production quality videos of random attacks. As long as major cities are still operating somewhat normally, it’s not a full scale war. More like an insurgency/counterinsurgency like we saw in Afghanistan. You should become a Military Historian! You have quite a knack for it… |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:26:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EUCOM OFFICIAL STATEMENT “Two Russian Su-27 aircraft conducted an unsafe and unprofessional intercept with a U.S. Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance unmanned MQ-9 aircraft that was operating within international airspace over the Black Sea today. At approximately 7:03 AM (CET), one of the Russian Su-27 aircraft struck the propeller of the MQ-9, causing U.S. forces to have to bring the MQ-9 down in international waters. Several times before the collision, the Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner. This incident demonstrates a lack of competence in addition to being unsafe and unprofessional. "Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9," said U.S. Air Force Gen. James B. Hecker, commander, U.S. Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa. "In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash." "U.S. and Allied aircraft will continue to operate in international airspace and we call on the Russians to conduct themselves professionally and safely, Hecker added. This incident follows a pattern of dangerous actions by Russian pilots while interacting with U.S. and Allied aircraft over international airspace, including over the Black Sea. These aggressive actions by Russian aircrew are dangerous and could lead to miscalculation and unintended escalation.” Doesn't seem very miscalculated on their part to me? Embarrassing... |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:26:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where’s the video? I can’t believe there isn’t a 360 camera view on these things. Shit, a fucking Hyundai has 360 view when parking.  was thinking the same. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should become a Military Historian! You have quite a knack for it… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I haven’t seen anything with my own eyes. I’ve seen some high production quality videos of random attacks. As long as major cities are still operating somewhat normally, it’s not a full scale war. More like an insurgency/counterinsurgency like we saw in Afghanistan. You should become a Military Historian! You have quite a knack for it… Keep defending your boss. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:28:36 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that the Russians said that they didn’t have any contact with the drone, I guarantee you’ll see the video by tonight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Live DOD presser on now. Any video? Now that the Russians said that they didn’t have any contact with the drone, I guarantee you’ll see the video by tonight. The suspense is killing me, I hope it lasts. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t seen anything with my own eyes. I’ve seen some high production quality videos of random attacks. As long as major cities are still operating somewhat normally, it’s not a full scale war. More like an insurgency/counterinsurgency like we saw in Afghanistan. Good lord, dude. I typed out three different replies to this and deleted them all. I honestly don't think I can help you. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The suspense is killing me, I hope it lasts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Live DOD presser on now. Any video? Now that the Russians said that they didn’t have any contact with the drone, I guarantee you’ll see the video by tonight. The suspense is killing me, I hope it lasts. 
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:30:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We were caught providing direct US troop support to the Ukrainians. The correct response by Russia is to escalate to direct action against the U.S. forces in the area while signaling to the Chinese to escalate their efforts by invading Taiwan while both release their records detailing FJB’s criminal actions. If they both act, Joe, Joe the dancing clown will fold like a cheap tent and both enemy states can keep what they kill. Quoted: Got any evidence for that? 
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOK, as in "wouldn't it be swell to destroy the RuAF in two weeks while the survivors freeze in dispersal airfields in Siberia?" I get the downsides, but still, want? Yeah. |
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Posted: 3/14/2023 3:31:21 PM EDT
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So what's the popular thing to say in GD? Is Biden a giant pussy or is he an intense war monger? I know it changes every 5 minutes here.
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