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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:10:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They only thing I know about Caracal is they announced a vaporware polymer pistol about 10 years ago, and I haven't heard anything about them since. That got recalled, they had a 416 type ar that seems pretty good |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:11:23 PM EST
[#2]
 NEW Daniel Defense PCC |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:13:51 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They only thing I know about Caracal is they announced a vaporware polymer pistol about 10 years ago, and I haven't heard anything about them since. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. They only thing I know about Caracal is they announced a vaporware polymer pistol about 10 years ago, and I haven't heard anything about them since. https://lauraburgess.com/caracal-usa-among-2500-exhibits-at-the-2024-shot-show-in-las-vegas/ ^^^^enhanced f pistol in three calibers, kinda meh. To add, the CMP9 has a monolithic top rail ala mpx. I wonder how the action works, radial delayed, blowback, other? |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:16:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cz didn't even standardize on cz mags Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you are starting from scratch in 2024 I don't see why you wouldn’t standardize on the CZ pattern magazine. Cz didn't even standardize on cz mags That's not funny. I have to find a cheap Evo 3 lower to put on my 3+ so I can use all my mags.  Kharn |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:26:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not funny. I have to find a cheap Evo 3 lower to put on my 3+ so I can use all my mags. Kharn Just wait until the rumored evo 4 comes out, and it uses yet a different pattern of magazine |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:32:39 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. They've been advertising that since like 2016. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:38:03 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. @Headspacer where did you find the info on this? Not seeing it on their site. That makes my pants feel tighter. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:39:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So much cheese.  Single moms, and late shift nurses... your typical customers for $2,500 pistols. And "Staccato family" 87 times... Anything past one or two "familys' in a marketing video and you know it was written by someone who wasn't smart enough to come up with anything else. I own and enjoy multiple Staccato guns but their apple pie, thin blue line marketing schtick gets a little over the top sometimes. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:43:10 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If your front sight is shifting that much you won't be hitting shit anyway. I've never heard of someone's front sight shifting massively outside of being dropped, or some nearly century-old beater gun in shit shape. It happens all of the time. But honestly anyone who thinks the Flux thing is a good idea probably doesn't shoot enough to ever have to worry about it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:48:46 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Between the Vuk and the Krinks I might need to work a little overtime I wonder if they will have a 5.56 Vuk and if it will use the various 5.56 AK mags out there Here is what they posted on their forum: Vuk The ‘better’ modern AK type firearm based around the JAKL Platform. Inspired by the AKV 521 Modernized and improved AK style ergonomics and aesthetics Will be Available in 5.56, 7.62x39, 5.45x39, 9x39MM, and 12 Gauge Interchange able barrels and hand guards They have AK's that are in 5.56, so the magazines should be the same. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:50:48 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. Any indication of action? If it's just another blowback it's a waste of time. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:56:57 PM EST
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Is Atlas producing any firearms in the price range for us poor folks?
 
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:01:01 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: but that trigger reach. It looks long It’s not-the trigger has a safety in it similar in concept to striker fired polymer guns |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:13:03 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryWhat makes the scorpion is popular is price. Nice to get into a PCC for $800. They market this at $1500...it will be a dud. Rule the market at $700-800. It's DD so I'm guessing $1800-2000 which will make it useless |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:17:59 PM EST
[#15]
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:19:08 PM EST
[#16]
INNOVATION!
TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery.  Attached FileSeems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:31:07 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INNOVATION! TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/1000023420_jpg-3104800.JPG Seems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. They are also releasing a higher candela head for the TLR-7 but it appears to be a bit longer than standard and would likely not work in most current EDC holsters. I was really hoping for an updated TLR-VIR with a better VIS/IR options but it’s not looking like it. Maybe they are set to release more in ver the next few days but that release seems pretty stagnant especially with Holosun making such a splash in the VIS and IR market. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:33:16 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INNOVATION! TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/1000023420_jpg-3104800.JPG Seems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. Yeah that’s dumb. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:38:51 PM EST
[#19]
 Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Aero Precision lever gun. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2bmrG_Ac4H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:47:00 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INNOVATION! TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/1000023420_jpg-3104800.JPG Seems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. Honestly, what I find much more interesting is the new high candela head they’re supposed to offer for the TLR-7. I don’t know any details about it other than it supposedly exists, but I will seriously consider picking one up for my personal light and then I’ll beg and plead for it to be approved for the TLR-7 I’m issued for my duty gun. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:50:24 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now THAT is intriguing. What makes the scorpion is popular is price. Nice to get into a PCC for $800. They market this at $1500...it will be a dud. Rule the market at $700-800. It's DD so I'm guessing $1800-2000 which will make it useless What’s intriguing about an “ar shaped thing” with a buffer and buffer tube with no ar part compatibility? Especially at Daniel Defense pricing? PSA already makes something like this for much cheaper and with better part compatibility. CMMG makes something better with no buffer tube and again better part compatibility. DD done lost their way on this one. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:53:22 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INNOVATION! TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/1000023420_jpg-3104800.JPG Seems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. Man I wish someone made a weaponlight with an external magnetic charger...... 
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:55:06 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Man I wish someone made a weaponlight with an external magnetic charger...... https://au.olicdn.com/image/e355e09fca4d42cb807f26030382c876.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp I'm not interested in an Olight, but this is what I thought they meant....then I read further. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:55:46 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Headspacer where did you find the info on this? Not seeing it on their site. That makes my pants feel tighter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. @Headspacer where did you find the info on this? Not seeing it on their site. That makes my pants feel tighter. That link and here https://caracalusa.com/press-kit/ |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 2:59:16 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not interested in an Olight, but this is what I thought they meant....then I read further. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Man I wish someone made a weaponlight with an external magnetic charger...... https://au.olicdn.com/image/e355e09fca4d42cb807f26030382c876.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp I'm not interested in an Olight, but this is what I thought they meant....then I read further. Olight is like Android and Streamlight & Surefire are like Apple You have to give them a few years to catch up and release their more expensive version |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:01:27 PM EST
[#26]
I’m here to visit family, decided to do some walking around last night with the wife. We met Jim Shockey and Brandon Herrera
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:03:34 PM EST
[#27]
Anyone have a good rundown of CZ stuff at the show yet?
I’m excited to see them not introduce a sub compact DA/SA pistol again this year. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:10:10 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until the rumored evo 4 comes out, and it uses yet a different pattern of magazine Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not funny. I have to find a cheap Evo 3 lower to put on my 3+ so I can use all my mags. Kharn Just wait until the rumored evo 4 comes out, and it uses yet a different pattern of magazine If it still takes the Evo 3 lower, I'll buy it when the rebate is right. Kharn |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:38:39 PM EST
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:41:15 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INNOVATION! TLR7 with a rechargeable lithium battery. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203509/1000023420_jpg-3104800.JPG Seems odd to advertise as rechargeable but not have a way to charge the battery without removing it. Maybe its waterproof up to ipx7. All those external usb lights are only ipx4. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:42:17 PM EST
[#31]
Instagram is fucking useless now that you only see like a dozen "top" posts under a hashtag. You used to be able to see all the posts with that tag.
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:50:03 PM EST
[#32]
Anyone have an extra hotel bed to sell? Preferably close to the show
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:55:58 PM EST
[#33]
Proprietary upper and bolt. With the hydraulic buffer, it is probably not delayed. probably a no for me. Too many PCCs out that are delayed and have huge support. DD PCC will sale, but i wont be a buyer. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:57:45 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://preview.redd.it/honestly-really-excited-to-see-some-videos-of-this-aero-v0-9rcxbftxr4ec1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cd6f3cd869d5ac645ee6f8791f2b3cbafc4b899e Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Aero Precision lever gun. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2bmrG_Ac4H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== All the lever guns coming out. Do the manufacturers think semi-autos will be banned? |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 3:59:13 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone have a good rundown of CZ stuff at the show yet? I'm excited to see them not introduce a sub compact DA/SA pistol again this year. TFB has a video on a 600 American chassis gun aka a 600 in an MDT chassis that's the exact same as the Colt bolt action they released last year. Seriously, the only difference is this year the gun says CZ on the side where last year it said Colt. It's otherwise identical. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:00:40 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All the lever guns coming out. Do the manufacturers think semi-autos will be banned? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://preview.redd.it/honestly-really-excited-to-see-some-videos-of-this-aero-v0-9rcxbftxr4ec1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cd6f3cd869d5ac645ee6f8791f2b3cbafc4b899e Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Aero Precision lever gun. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2bmrG_Ac4H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== All the lever guns coming out. Do the manufacturers think semi-autos will be banned? I think they're just trying to cash in on the latest fad. Lever guns are all over social media. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:09:02 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Range Day Part 1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eCPGmDMlgoLWRC 1:15 Guns Out TV 5:05 PTR 8:26 FLUX Defense 17:06 Zenith 29:24 PWS 32:48 Outro 37:53 PWS UXR looks promising and at a fair price too. https://www.primaryweapons.com/firearms/uxr/  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:13:29 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they're just trying to cash in on the latest gad. Lever guns are all over social media. This. (Mugatu voice) "Lever actions are SO hot right now". |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:27:17 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they're just trying to cash in on the latest fad. Lever guns are all over social media. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://preview.redd.it/honestly-really-excited-to-see-some-videos-of-this-aero-v0-9rcxbftxr4ec1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cd6f3cd869d5ac645ee6f8791f2b3cbafc4b899e Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Aero Precision lever gun. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2bmrG_Ac4H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== All the lever guns coming out. Do the manufacturers think semi-autos will be banned? I think they're just trying to cash in on the latest fad. Lever guns are all over social media. People are easily led by marketing. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:29:52 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So far the range day line up was P10s and a FA evo 3 (not 3+). TFB has a video on a 600 American chassis gun aka a 600 in an MDT chassis that's the exact same as the Colt bolt action they released last year. Seriously, the only difference is this year the gun says CZ on the side where last year it said Colt. It's otherwise identical. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone have a good rundown of CZ stuff at the show yet? I'm excited to see them not introduce a sub compact DA/SA pistol again this year. TFB has a video on a 600 American chassis gun aka a 600 in an MDT chassis that's the exact same as the Colt bolt action they released last year. Seriously, the only difference is this year the gun says CZ on the side where last year it said Colt. It's otherwise identical. CZ doesn’t seem to listen to the market as well since the Colt merger. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:30:26 PM EST
[#41]
Probably meh news for a lot of people, but Glock released a suppressor ready MOS cut 19x. Ameriglo suppressor sights, threaded barrel, and MOS cut for $819 MSRP. Davidson’s exclusive. I’ve already asked my local FFL to order me one.
Cheaper than getting a 19x MOS cut, adding sights, and a barrel. 
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:32:08 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Proprietary upper and bolt. With the hydraulic buffer, it is probably not delayed. probably a no for me. Too many PCCs out that are delayed and have huge support. DD PCC will sale, but i wont be a buyer. I doubt it does much of anything better than the AR-V, which also uses a proprietary upper, lower, and bolt and they won't sell the upper separately which is monumentally retarded. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:35:47 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably meh news for a lot of people, but Glock released a suppressor ready MOS cut 19x. Ameriglo suppressor sights, threaded barrel, and MOS cut for $819 MSRP. Davidson’s exclusive. I’ve already asked my local FFL to order me one. Cheaper than getting a 19x MOS cut, adding sights, and a barrel. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/6A6A968F-33F6-42DA-A47C-F3A04C632497.jpeg I like this configuration, suppressor host was always the only way the 19x made sense to me. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:39:15 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably meh news for a lot of people, but Glock released a suppressor ready MOS cut 19x. Ameriglo suppressor sights, threaded barrel, and MOS cut for $819 MSRP. Davidson’s exclusive. I’ve already asked my local FFL to order me one. Cheaper than getting a 19x MOS cut, adding sights, and a barrel. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/6A6A968F-33F6-42DA-A47C-F3A04C632497.jpeg I'll probably grab one at some point |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:39:30 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't seen anyone mention Carcal. This CMP9 looks interesting. https://i1.wp.com/silahreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Caracal-CMP9-Overview.jpg?resize=800%2C600&ssl=1 Bufferless, dual charging ala B&T SPC9 w/mp5 mags? Available in 9"&5" barrels. That looks badass. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:42:55 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guarantee you it doesn't. The buffer on your aluminum shelf gun is a bandaid. You paid all that money for a half assed modernized tec 9 that still isn't as pleasant to shoot as a gun from the 60's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I run drills and haven't found that to be the case. I prefer B&T because the ergos are better, and while technically direct blowback, the carrier is slowed by a hydraulic plunger, feels pretty close in recoil to an mp5. It's also a high quality milled gun and not a tac welded piece of sheet metal. I guarantee you it doesn't. The buffer on your aluminum shelf gun is a bandaid. You paid all that money for a half assed modernized tec 9 that still isn't as pleasant to shoot as a gun from the 60's. Look at these soldiers struggling to control the urge to quit LARP'ing until they get issued a Teutonic trashcan  Unbelievable APC9K Submachine Gun Training at Fort Dix |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:43:44 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Proprietary upper and bolt. With the hydraulic buffer, it is probably not delayed. probably a no for me. Too many PCCs out that are delayed and have huge support. DD PCC will sale, but i wont be a buyer. But the comments on the video are pretty funny. "... and the crowd goes mild." 
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:45:11 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People are easily led by marketing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://preview.redd.it/honestly-really-excited-to-see-some-videos-of-this-aero-v0-9rcxbftxr4ec1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cd6f3cd869d5ac645ee6f8791f2b3cbafc4b899e Not sure if anyone mentioned it but Aero Precision lever gun. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2bmrG_Ac4H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== All the lever guns coming out. Do the manufacturers think semi-autos will be banned? I think they're just trying to cash in on the latest fad. Lever guns are all over social media. People are easily led by marketing. There are also a whole slew of states with new bans enacted or soon to be enacted or facing fights against new bans. Lever guns are almost universally ignored by the filthy marxists in governments right now. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:52:24 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably meh news for a lot of people, but Glock released a suppressor ready MOS cut 19x. Ameriglo suppressor sights, threaded barrel, and MOS cut for $819 MSRP. Davidson’s exclusive. I’ve already asked my local FFL to order me one. Cheaper than getting a 19x MOS cut, adding sights, and a barrel. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/6A6A968F-33F6-42DA-A47C-F3A04C632497.jpeg This should’ve been done in the first place. Incrementally releasing existing improvements mean I won’t consider them. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:53:50 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PWS UXR looks promising and at a fair price too. https://www.primaryweapons.com/firearms/uxr/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83/IMG_2989_jpeg-3104893.JPG What I find interesting is that rifle has a bore evacuator on the barrel like a tank gun. I wonder how that performs with rapid suppressed fire. Could potentially be a game changer for shooting suppressed. |
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