[ARCHIVED THREAD] - SIG “ The P320. It ends today.” (Page 70 of 142)
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Quoted: There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secret only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor |
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Quoted: No, Hard Rock's assertion that the ICE contract mandated the safety lock the sear, not just the trigger. If so, that's a straightforward fix for SIG and the entire 320 community, as well as the .mil. Lock the sear, UDs go away. He's the only one who's brought up that assertion. |
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Master Index TECH thread - NOT the place for opinion, only links and data: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_14/216492_Master-P320-index-thread-NO-opinions-allowed-post-links-and-data-only.html THIS existing GD thread is the place for shenanigans, and I've linked to here. |
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Quoted: There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. |
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Quoted: I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. |
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Quoted: It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol |
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Quoted: My guy, I'm just trying to get you to accept the reality that some of the P320 holster fires are almost certainly due to something pulling the trigger, and help you understand that it's more likely when the holster doesn't fully cover the trigger guard. Some people now just use ND as a term for the P320. It's getting sort of stupid IMO. IMO all cases were results of the trigger getting pulled one way or another.. Does anyone remember a loose drawstring causing an 'uncommanded discharge' with this guy's g43?  VIDEO Holstered Pistol Discharges Negligent or Accident here's another 'blast from the past' (no pun intended.)  Drawstrings can cause guns many law enforcement agencies use to fire |
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Quoted: I mean ... if so ... at least say what it is? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO all cases were results of the trigger getting pulled one way or another.. On what basis do you beleive that? Dogma. I mean ... if so ... at least say what it is? He literally says it's his opinion. The man's entitled to his opinion. SIG has an unseen ally in this fight - centuries of gun making with sears that were safe at half cock or made safe by other safety mechanisms. When there is an unintentional discharge, it is presumed the user was negligent because guns just don't go off by themselves. Remington and Taurus worked hard to overturn that presumption by designing and implementing unsafe fire control units that were then distributed to the public in millions of guns. But in several centuries of gun making, Remington and Taurus have been the exception. SIG is banking on that reputation of sears that don't just go off on their own. |
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Quoted: He literally says it's his opinion. The man's entitled to his opinion. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO all cases were results of the trigger getting pulled one way or another.. People hold opinions for reasons, even if they aren't the same kind of reasons that underly firmer beliefs or convictions. |
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Quoted: Uh ... yes ... and I was just asking after (his reasons for) that (opinion). People hold opinions for reasons, even if they aren't the same kind of reasons that underly firmer beliefs or convictions. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO all cases were results of the trigger getting pulled one way or another.. Dogma. I mean ... if so ... at least say what it is? He literally says it's his opinion. The man's entitled to his opinion. Uh ... yes ... and I was just asking after (his reasons for) that (opinion). People hold opinions for reasons, even if they aren't the same kind of reasons that underly firmer beliefs or convictions. It's just the presumption that major gun manufacturers don't put out defective firearms and gaslight their customers when the defective firearms shoot their customers in the leg. Other than Remington... Or Taurus... SIG is a MUCH better company than those two. 
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Quoted: If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. |
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Quoted: He literally says it's his opinion. The man's entitled to his opinion. SIG has an unseen ally in this fight - centuries of gun making with sears that were safe at half cock or made safe by other safety mechanisms. When there is an unintentional discharge, it is presumed the user was negligent because guns just don't go off by themselves. Remington and Taurus worked hard to overturn that presumption by designing and implementing unsafe fire control units that were then distributed to the public in millions of guns. But in several centuries of gun making, Remington and Taurus have been the exception. SIG is banking on that reputation of sears that don't just go off on their own. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO all cases were results of the trigger getting pulled one way or another.. On what basis do you beleive that? Dogma. I mean ... if so ... at least say what it is? He literally says it's his opinion. The man's entitled to his opinion. SIG has an unseen ally in this fight - centuries of gun making with sears that were safe at half cock or made safe by other safety mechanisms. When there is an unintentional discharge, it is presumed the user was negligent because guns just don't go off by themselves. Remington and Taurus worked hard to overturn that presumption by designing and implementing unsafe fire control units that were then distributed to the public in millions of guns. But in several centuries of gun making, Remington and Taurus have been the exception. SIG is banking on that reputation of sears that don't just go off on their own. Exactly, hence why I said dogma. It was more or less true that guns don’t just go off on their own, up until it wasn’t. Hence, dogma within the gun community. |
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Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it.  Although admittedly I think I got one of the last ones off the assembly line. SIG fixed the 250 just in time to drop it. |
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Quoted: Although admittedly I think I got one of the last ones off the assembly line. SIG fixed the 250 just in time to drop it. Quoted: Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. Although admittedly I think I got one of the last ones off the assembly line. SIG fixed the 250 just in time to drop it. Ironic |
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I don’t normally listen to Hannity, but he was on the radio yesterday for a few minutes and I caught one of his ads for Sig. He absolutely gushed for how great of a company Sig is and how everything they make is so great and you can depend on the p320 to protect you and your family. I know he probably has no idea anything that’s going on but I thought it was kind of gross to listen to. |
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Quoted: Although admittedly I think I got one of the last ones off the assembly line. SIG fixed the 250 just in time to drop it. Quoted: Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. Although admittedly I think I got one of the last ones off the assembly line. SIG fixed the 250 just in time to drop it. I’m not trying to argue with you in the slightest…however knowing the reliability issues of the 250, and the intermittent shake-awake feature of the 320, is it possible that you got a good 250 just like so many people have gotten good 320s? Was there actually a publicized fix for the 250, or just silent rolling changes of unacknowledged problems? |
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Quoted: I’m not trying to argue with you in the slightest…however knowing the reliability issues of the 250, and the intermittent shake-awake feature of the 320, is it possible that you got a good 250 just like so many people have gotten good 320s? Was there actually a publicized fix for the 250, or just silent rolling changes of unacknowledged problems? As per usual SIG, there were rolling changes with no acknowledgement. Three variations of the P250: First edition- horrible trigger pull and poor reliability. This was the gun the Air Marshals rejected (as did my own department). Note scalloped frame cutouts and original checkering. Attached File Second iteration- better reliability but still heavy trigger. Note the new frame design is pretty much what you see on a P320. Attached File Final, third version: good trigger pull and good reliability. Note the trigger profile change from the classic SIG profile. Attached File SIG still made some weird design choices on the P250, like having an overly complicated rear sight/firing pin retainer. Attached File |
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I don’t normally listen to Hannity, but he was on the radio yesterday for a few minutes and I caught one of his ads for Sig. He absolutely gushed for how great of a company Sig is and how everything they make is so great and you can depend on the p320 to protect you and your family. I know he probably has no idea anything that’s going on but I thought it was kind of gross to listen to.
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Quoted: SIG still made some weird design choices on the P250, like having an overly complicated rear sight/firing pin retainer. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33962/s-l1200_jpg-3534419.JPG  Is that rear sight not adjustable for windage?? |
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Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. It doesn't look like it would be too hard to convert them to matchlock. Attached File Just pin the slide to the barrel and add a side lock. 
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Quoted: If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol They did when they were first unveiled, but I think Sig did fix the P250 before dropping it. I for one would be fine with a P250 conversation. I would prefer they fix the P320, but if not possible to render them safe, a P250 conversation would be fine. |
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Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. That was the Air Marshals... They took delivery of the first shipment at the armory, and after testing the first dozen or two, and having numerous failures of all kinds, they boxed them all back up and sent them back to SIG... |
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Quoted: I don’t normally listen to Hannity, but he was on the radio yesterday for a few minutes and I caught one of his ads for Sig. He absolutely gushed for how great of a company Sig is and how everything they make is so great and you can depend on the p320 to protect you and your family. I know he probably has no idea anything that’s going on but I thought it was kind of gross to listen to. Yep heard him shilling for Sig a few times recently not impressed. Guess he dumped Henry for Sig, lol. |
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Quoted: That was the Air Marshals... They took delivery of the first shipment at the armory, and after testing the first dozen or two, and having numerous failures of all kinds, they boxed them all back up and sent them back to SIG... And as I recall Sig sued the Air Marshalls service for too high an emphasis on reliability 
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Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun). The Sig 320 is getting fixed? |
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Quoted: Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68OzeIHa7IAt 18 minutes or so, there's a report the USMC is now mandating Israeli carry of M17s/M18s. Anyone seen documentation of this? |
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Quoted: At 18 minutes or so, there's a report the USMC is now mandating Israeli carry of M17s/M18s. Anyone seen documentation of this? Quoted: At 18 minutes or so, there's a report the USMC is now mandating Israeli carry of M17s/M18s. Anyone seen documentation of this? https://www.wearethemighty.com/military-news/sig-p320-engineering-review-recommended-in-marine-corps-report/ ...Additionally, the Marine Corps investigator recommended that the policy on weapon condition status be reviewed. Rather than having the M18 in condition 1 with a round chambered and the safety on, the investigator recommends that condition 3 with a magazine inserted but no round chambered be employed during lower Force Protection Condition levels. This reduced level of readiness would be in contrast to the Marine Corps policy utilized for the M9 and M45A1 pistols which called for them to have a round chambered and safety engaged when being carried by Marines and civilian law enforcement and security personnel... |
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Quoted: Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68OzeIHa7IWELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. |
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Quoted: WELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. If there is a genuine fix, I need to find a mil spec m18, ugh |
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Quoted: Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: IMO, they are doing this because they know it is a flawed design that can’t be fixed with upgraded or redesigned parts in a recall campaign. Their execs are talking about this every day right now, half of them shitting their pants and the other half having sphincter spasms because their lawyers are telling them that the coming lawsuits will end them and they know that a recall and refund campaign is the only effective way to stop the lawsuits. There isn’t really much in life that can’t be fixed with redesigned components. The firearm is not some magic gadget full of arcane secrets only to be deciphered by those of the cloth. However it is pretty likely at the current quantity sold, it a retrofit cannot be accomplished through current part modification and instead requires a new part(s) (of which the slide is a big possibility) then a full recall (on top of legal liability) is likely a bankrupting endeavor I wouldn't trust anything less than a full on conversion to a plunger style striker block like those seen in... every other pistol on the market. I don't see that as a retrofit type of job. The part would have to be designed and mass produced, slides would have to be machined for the part, it would probably be difficult to get the existing striker assembly to interface with it, and you'd likely need changes to the FCU to actuate it. Basically, you're redesigning the whole gun and starting with a clean sheet... which is exactly what Sig did with the P365. It would seem the easy button would be to do voluntary conversions to a P250 - which allowed any caliber from .22 LR to .45 ACP. I think relatively little slide milling would be required. If we overlook the facts that the P250 had a poor reputation and that DAO semiautomatic pistols are some of the most unpopular firearms on the planet… sure. lol Didn’t border patrol can the 250 as soon as they took delivery, and revert back to 20yo USPc pistols due to reliability issues? Or am I thinking of another agency? I don’t think anyone who’s ever used a 250 has liked it. They’re using Glock 47s and 49s now. CBP is why they exist in the first place |
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Quoted: If there is a genuine fix, I need to find a mil spec m18, ugh Quoted: Quoted: WELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. If there is a genuine fix, I need to find a mil spec m18, ugh If the Army sticks with the M17, I still will want one. That said I’m not buying one until there is a genuine fix where Sig comes clean about this, AND Ron Cohen is fired. |
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Quoted: WELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. Quoted: Quoted: Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68OzeIHa7IWELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. |
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Quoted: I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't these be fixed with: Trigger safety Redesigned striker block New striker Redesigned sear Heavier springs Of course, you'll lose that sweet sweet trigger pull that SIG was chasing in the first place. That's a different gun. But truly, I think what the gun needs will probably require moving pin locations and making room in the slide for stuff. It needs a manual safety option that blocks the sear to satisfy the military contract. It needs a way to block the sear from moving unless the trigger is intentionally pulled by a human. And it needs a striker block safety with a lot more engagement. A cross bolt style like the glocks use would be good. Something that can't be bashed aside by the striker. |
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Quoted: If that guy can prove the problem and has a solution, I hope he protected his idea. Dude could be a millionaire pretty quickly depending on how things shake out. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68OzeIHa7IWELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. |
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Quoted: Stoeger mentioned something about a patent. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting: a third party possible fix (plus more Stoeger fun). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68OzeIHa7IWELL NOW. But will this also fix the failing striker safety fingers? Or is it just going to mask them? Mucho interested to see. If he fixes this before sig ... someone should ask a lawyer who specializes in these sort of things about the possible fallout. Per stoeger's video it's from the "sig armorer." Says we should get more info monday of next week (5-12-25). Keep an eye on that for future info. Very curious to see how he identified the problem, given the inconsistency inherent across different pistols. |