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Posted: 6/16/2006 7:49:12 PM EST

Note: For those that don't know, "The Sled" is the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane from the 1960's and still the fastest airplane. In his book, "Sled Driver", SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes: "I'll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (my back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn't really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its ground speed."90 knots" Center replied. Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same. "120 knot s," Center answered. We weren't the only ones proud of our ground speed that day as almost instantly an F-18 smugly transmitted, "Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests ground speed readout." There was a slight pause, then the response, "525 knots on the ground, Dusty." Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It was at that precise moment I realized Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison. "Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground speed readout for us?" There was a longer than normal pause.... "Aspen, I show 1,742 knots" (That's about 2004.658 mph for those who don't know) No further inquiries were heard on that frequency.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 7:50:29 PM EST
[#1]

ETA: a cool SR71 pic

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 7:53:36 PM EST
[#2]
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 7:56:56 PM EST
[#3]


I'm here at Beale so maybe I find that more humorous.

The highest flying and fastest flying aircraft records are still held by the SR-71.

I saw Brian a couple of weeks ago.  He's a hero.  He got horribly burned when he was shot down over Vietnam.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 7:59:41 PM EST
[#4]
Book is still out of print
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:00:09 PM EST
[#5]
that is some good shit right threre.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:00:34 PM EST
[#6]
Can you say, Owned?

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:12:09 PM EST
[#7]
I have heard that some SR-71 pilots were seen with un-official ballcaps with "6+" embroidered on them...

Mach 6 plus?

PS my father worked on the SR Test Force as a tech sergeant. I still have his little SR lapel pin.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:16:39 PM EST
[#8]

Quoted:
Can you say, Owned?





Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:16:50 PM EST
[#9]
I thought the story from Skunk Works about flashing the "diplomatic code" over France at some Mirage polits before going full afterburners was pretty good.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 10:40:14 PM EST
[#10]

Quoted:
I thought the story from Skunk Works about flashing the "diplomatic code" over France at some Mirage polits before going full afterburners was pretty good.



Was that a one-digit code?
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 10:47:59 PM EST
[#11]
Damn funny!
Thanks for the laugh!

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 10:53:26 PM EST
[#12]

Quoted:


I'm here at Beale so maybe I find that more humorous.

The highest flying and fastest flying aircraft records are still held by the SR-71.

I saw Brian a couple of weeks ago.  He's a hero.  He got horribly burned when he was shot down over Vietnam.



I used to live on  beale. I thought they closed it
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:11:50 PM EST
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I thought the story from Skunk Works about flashing the "diplomatic code" over France at some Mirage polits before going full afterburners was pretty good.



Was that a one-digit code?



Of course - the only kind the French deserve.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:21:19 PM EST
[#14]
Even though this has nothing to do with the SR-71, I still think this is a funny story.

  A friend of mine used to fly F-4's in the Air Force.  One of his IP's was a Vietnam vet who flew F-4s during Linebacker '72.  They happened along a flight of B-52s going back to Thailand and decided to mess with them a bit.  They came up on the BUFF's freq and asked the 52's if they would like to do some aerobatics and tricks. A B-52 pilot answered, "Sure, you guys go first."  That said, the F-4 pilots did a bunch of loops, Immelmans, split s' and rolls.  Then the F-4 guys said, "Ok BUFF's, your turn."  A few minutes passed and the flight of B-52s kept plodding along doing nothing.  The F-4 guys said, "Aren't you going to do anything?"  A B-52 pilot answered up with, "Yeah, didnt you see?"  "We all turned two engines off!"  The F-4 pilots just headed home.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:25:48 PM EST
[#15]
I've heard it before, but still funny!

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:30:41 PM EST
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Can you say, Owned?








Completely and totally...
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:42:26 PM EST
[#17]
99.999% chance this is utter bullshit, yet funny:



A USAF SR-71, callsign "Habu 21". He gets on the radio and asks a controller, who obviously doesn't know exactly what aircraft he is dealing with, for clearance to FL680.

"Center, Habu 21, request flight level six eight zero"

"Habu 21, Center. . . sir, if you think you can make it, you're cleared to flight level six eight zero. . .and please advise when reaching."

"Center, Habu 21. Roger, descending to flight level six eight zero and will advise."  



Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:49:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:49:54 PM EST
[#19]

Quoted:
I have heard that some SR-71 pilots were seen with un-official ballcaps with "6+" embroidered on them...

Mach 6 plus?

PS my father worked on the SR Test Force as a tech sergeant. I still have his little SR lapel pin.



Pic? I love the SR-71.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 12:52:54 AM EST
[#20]
I dig it.

I am learning to fly.

I lived near Edwards Air Force Base and have seen lots of B2's and fighters flying overhead.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 12:59:33 AM EST
[#21]
That sounds like a book I would enjoy.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 5:42:03 AM EST
[#22]
needs more pics

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:00:03 AM EST
[#23]
Ouch!  "Sled Driver" *starts* at $159 and goes up from there!!
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:05:48 AM EST
[#24]
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:09:16 AM EST
[#25]
And if you show up at the Reno Air Races he'll sell you a copy AND sign it for ya.

Nice guy I've talked to him a few times.

Good book too,  lots of pictures for you BB lovers.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:15:01 AM EST
[#26]

Quoted:
Ouch!  "Sled Driver" *starts* at $159 and goes up from there!!



Go to your local library. They probably won't have it on the shelf, but request an inter library loan. It may take a bit, but you'll get to read it.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:23:25 AM EST
[#27]

Whoa
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:28:21 AM EST
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:


I'm here at Beale so maybe I find that more humorous.

The highest flying and fastest flying aircraft records are still held by the SR-71.

I saw Brian a couple of weeks ago.  He's a hero.  He got horribly burned when he was shot down over Vietnam.



I used to live on  beale. I thought they closed it



No

www.beale.af.mil
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:34:17 AM EST
[#29]

Quoted:


I'm here at Beale so maybe I find that more humorous.

The highest flying and fastest flying aircraft records are still held by the SR-71.

I saw Brian a couple of weeks ago.  He's a hero.  He got horribly burned when he was shot down over Vietnam.



The non-classified records, that is.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:35:41 AM EST
[#30]
For anyone who passes through the Richmond Va area, there is an SR71 parked in front of the Virginia Aviation Museum.

Virginia Aviation Museum
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:47:19 AM EST
[#31]
I have an uncle that used to fuel them on occasion in Alaska in the 80's...  
He always said, You know those guys had just been for a ride. Right over the USSR.

He had a few opportunities to take a picture or two of the cockpit, and other aspects of the aircraft, but they had real problems with anyone viewing any of the electronic and photographic gear.

He said a pilot told him they could go as fast as they wanted depending on fuel carried and how straight the path was.  Of course there is no way to turn at those ultra high speeds

He has no problem with the 6+ rumor, he always  felt they could reach 5 or 6 the only question was if they routinely did it? He thought that on occasion they had felt the need.  They had 2 things going for them other than the stealth characteristics of it. Speed and altitude. If the mission was threatened they used them.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:11:31 AM EST
[#32]

Quoted:
99.999% chance this is utter bullshit, yet funny:



A USAF SR-71, callsign "Habu 21". He gets on the radio and asks a controller, who obviously doesn't know exactly what aircraft he is dealing with, for clearance to FL680.

"Center, Habu 21, request flight level six eight zero"

"Habu 21, Center. . . sir, if you think you can make it, you're cleared to flight level six eight zero. . .and please advise when reaching."

"Center, Habu 21. Roger, descending to flight level six eight zero and will advise."  






The only reason I think it bull is because as best as I know the ATC only controls up to FL600, so they would never clear to FL680.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:18:19 AM EST
[#33]
Isn't it ironic that the coolest airplane and coolest gun are both BLACK! Coincidence?? I don't think so.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:26:47 AM EST
[#34]
The Lockheed SR-71 and its variants are BY FAR the greatest aircraft ever built and flown!

Even if it came out TODAY, it would be lightyears ahead of its time.

I wish someday I could be a part of such a project...

Anyone else have more 6+ information/speculation? I have never heard of this before.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:38:59 AM EST
[#35]
The father of a girl I dated helped design the SR-71.  She was this 21 year old gothy college art school chick, but she knew all about the SR-71 (how it was made of titanium, where the titanium came from, how it leaked fuel on the ground and needed the friction of the air to seal the fuselage, how it expanded, how fast it went, what it was built for, etc). If you asked her about any other airplane, she just didn't know or care.  It was kind of funny.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:40:57 AM EST
[#36]
tag
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:43:38 AM EST
[#37]

Quoted:
The Lockheed SR-71 and its variants are BY FAR the greatest aircraft ever built and flown!

Even if it came out TODAY, it would be lightyears ahead of its time.

I wish someday I could be a part of such a project...

Anyone else have more 6+ information/speculation? I have never heard of this before.



I agree with your sentiments exactly, I've always thought the SR-71 was/is the greatest aircraft ever.

And to think, at the time it was built it was done by engineers who only had slide-rules and drafting boards.

It is absolutely one of the greatest technological achievements of all time in my humble opinion...
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:44:20 AM EST
[#38]
We've got a pair of them sitting outside Plant 42 out here in Palmdale, CA.  I've also seen a few more at NASA Dryden out at Edwards AFB.  We were setting UPS units for the communications systems and you could see them in the hangers.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:54:38 AM EST
[#39]
There is an SR71 and Drone at the Evergreen museum of flight in north oregon.  The drones were launched from the top I believe.  Apparently there were some problems because the plane would fly into the drone and so few were made.  I have pictures somewhere.  You can actually look inside the cockpit and everything.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:58:25 AM EST
[#40]

Quoted:
We've got a pair of them sitting outside Plant 42 out here in Palmdale, CA.  I've also seen a few more at NASA Dryden out at Edwards AFB.  We were setting UPS units for the communications systems and you could see them in the hangers.



64-17962 SR-71A Reserve Fleet, Plant 42, Palmdale, CA
64-17968 SR-71A  Reserve Fleet, Plant 42, Palmdale, CA  
60-6937 A-12 Storage, Plant 42 (Skunk Works)  

64-17980 SR-71A  Operational, NASA Dryden FRC, Edwards AFB, CA  
64-17971 SR-71A Operational (USAF), Det 2, 9th SW, Edwards AFB, CA  
64-17967 SR-71A Operational (USAF), Det 2, 9th SW, Edwards AFB, CA
64-17956 SR-71B  Operational, NASA Dryden FRC, Edwards AFB, CA  
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:00:24 AM EST
[#41]
They have an M21 variant at the local museum of flight with a D21 drone attached.



Official museum page on the M21 variant HERE. (link fixed)
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:03:29 AM EST
[#42]
Theres an SR-71 sitting right down the street from me...

March Field Riverside Ca.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:05:42 AM EST
[#43]
The capabilities of this aircraft are so fantastic that I find it hard to believe they retired it without something even more awesome operational.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:07:20 AM EST
[#44]
What was the purpose of the drone?
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:08:11 AM EST
[#45]

Quoted:
The father of a girl I dated helped design the SR-71.  She was this 21 year old gothy college art school chick, but she knew all about the SR-71 (how it was made of titanium, where the titanium came from, how it leaked fuel on the ground and needed the friction of the air to seal the fuselage, how it expanded, how fast it went, what it was built for, etc). If you asked her about any other airplane, she just didn't know or care.  It was kind of funny.



Did she know about the chlorine in the water made the titanium brittle and shatter?
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:09:57 AM EST
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The Lockheed SR-71 and its variants are BY FAR the greatest aircraft ever built and flown!

Even if it came out TODAY, it would be lightyears ahead of its time.

I wish someday I could be a part of such a project...

Anyone else have more 6+ information/speculation? I have never heard of this before.



I agree with your sentiments exactly, I've always thought the SR-71 was/is the greatest aircraft ever.

And to think, at the time it was built it was done by engineers who only had slide-rules and drafting boards.

It is absolutely one of the greatest technological achievements of all time in my humble opinion...



+1 count me in on that assessment
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:09:59 AM EST
[#47]

Quoted:
What was the purpose of the drone?



D21 Drones

BTW, I fixed the above link too.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 9:05:42 AM EST
[#48]

Quoted:
The only reason I think it bull is because as best as I know the ATC only controls up to FL600, so they would never clear to FL680.



Actually, above FL600 is Class E airspace... controlled airspace.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 9:16:31 AM EST
[#49]
Wonder what type of replacement we have flying in it's place now?
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 9:19:12 AM EST
[#50]
Wow!
Never knew about the drones.
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