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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:49:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Bomb bay" of J-20: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/screenshot-eng-chinamil-com-cn-2018-11-1-2567448.JPG Bomb bay of F-22: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/oekievhke6341_jpg-2567449.JPG Discuss. Your point? |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:50:12 PM EST
[#2]
Thing got it’s ass kicked by an F-14 and an F-18. I saw a documentary about it!
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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:59:11 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your point? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Bomb bay" of J-20: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/screenshot-eng-chinamil-com-cn-2018-11-1-2567448.JPG Bomb bay of F-22: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/oekievhke6341_jpg-2567449.JPG Discuss. Your point? No wiring of any kind and incredibly clean. Looks like a mock-up |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:59:58 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your point? The J20 internal weapons bay is either non-functional or they figured a way to vastly simplify it compared to the F-22. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:00:35 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No wiring of any kind and incredibly clean. Looks like a mock-up Ah. That would not be surprising in the slightest. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:05:18 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The J20 internal weapons bay is either non-functional or they figured a way to vastly simplify it compared to the F-22. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your point? The J20 internal weapons bay is either non-functional or they figured a way to vastly simplify it compared to the F-22. Wireless upgrade 
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:05:22 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No wiring of any kind and incredibly clean. Looks like a mock-up The missiles are fakes. I bet the bay isn’t finished out but the aft end looks like it has hardware. The 22 is also 20 years old. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:06:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aerodynamic filler fixes that. 8802 fixes all. https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-jifykode7m/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/68076/113511/SGP146397_1_inset1__02201.1617260246.jpg?c=1 Took half a second for it to register. We always called it 1440 b 1/2 or just the generic term Proseal. Must be a Navy thing. Lol  |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:10:35 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m convinced that most of the accounts that participate in these threads are bots. Or tediously autistic I’m convinced there are agents who actively campaign against the US’s defense Aquisition programs in order to weaken us. It’s in their interest to see the F35 cancelled. They claim it isn’t mission ready, too expensive, not combat effective, or doesn’t meet its promised goals. And the program is too classified to defend itself in public. So it sounds like a failure and we need to cancel it so that our adversaries will have the advantage |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:12:11 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d love to see some US company get ahold of an SU-57 and strip it down and mod it with American parts and equipment…….. the Israelis would have a field day with them And then they would keep it for themselves and nobody else would ever benefit from it |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:25:57 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's Murica for you. The F-35 has come down in price quite a bit and after some growing pains performs pretty well. The acquisitions process needs fixed though to prevent that debacle from happening again. Back in the pre-woke culture of WWII, Ford's Willow Run plant was putting out one complete B-24 per hour. Too bad we have lost a lot of our industrial capacity. But we're still better than the Russians. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:33:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And then they would keep it for themselves and nobody else would ever benefit from it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d love to see some US company get ahold of an SU-57 and strip it down and mod it with American parts and equipment…….. the Israelis would have a field day with them And then they would keep it for themselves and nobody else would ever benefit from it Yep, I would say the KF-21 from South Korea is a better option for such a project. It even looks like the F-22s little brother. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:40:17 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m convinced that most of the accounts that participate in these threads are bots. Or tediously autistic You’ve just described Arfcom to a “T”. But the autism which is Tedious, is the same autism that makes it Entertaining. You takes the good with the bad. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:00:07 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We keep getting all these gay wars. I want to see US 5th Gen sweep the sky clean so badly It would be a one sided fight, even if we sent our women pilots. LoL @ China’s 16 Century plan for global dominance. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:25:04 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be a one sided fight, even if we sent our women pilots. LoL @ China’s 16 Century plan for global dominance. If a country is going to have a national delusion, the one America has of always being about to be left in the dust by everyone else is the way to go. Which doesn't make it accurate, or any less infuriating dealing with the people who believe it. But it does mean you stay so far ahead of the pack that no one has a realistic chance of catching up. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:46:06 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be a one sided fight, even if we sent our women pilots. LoL @ China’s 16 Century plan for global dominance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We keep getting all these gay wars. I want to see US 5th Gen sweep the sky clean so badly It would be a one sided fight, even if we sent our women pilots. LoL @ China’s 16 Century plan for global dominance. "5 bandits" "Splash 1, splash 2, splash 3, splash 4, splash 5" "Returning to base" |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:58:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Took half a second for it to register. We always called it 1440 b 1/2 or just the generic term Proseal. Must be a Navy thing. Lol We like to call it by it's correct nomenclature. Proseal could be anything. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:03:53 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And is autism a bad thing? I have autism. It's not a cakewalk. It makes things way, waaay fucking harder than they need to be. I had to have speech therapy and an IEP when I was in school. Autism doesn't mean you can't become a functioning member of society, it just means it's going to take a lot more work and development to become one. Enjoy the autistic reply. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:05:26 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Screw all that. F-4’s!! Screw that. Sopwith Camels |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:07:09 PM EST
[#20]
In before some simp demands that we return to the M14.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:17:42 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before some simp demands that we return to the M14. Too fancy, with all those parts and too many locking lugs. Krag-Jorgensen FTW! |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:22:33 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Bomb bay" of J-20: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/screenshot-eng-chinamil-com-cn-2018-11-1-2567448.JPG Bomb bay of F-22: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/oekievhke6341_jpg-2567449.JPG Discuss. It's all Mumbai to me |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:30:12 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're probably right. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Su-57-Screws_jpeg-2567087.JPG WTF?? They never heard of a flush fit screwhead? "BAH! Good Russian engine power overcome surface drag! |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:42:18 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Screw that. Sopwith Camels Screw that. Dirigibles. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:00:27 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No wiring of any kind and incredibly clean. Looks like a mock-up Wires have mass and are affected by GS They are routed along structure and secured to control this |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:04:16 PM EST
[#26]
The acquisitions process worked exactly the way it was designed from end to end. Everyone got rich on both sides, nobody went to jail, the American taxpayer got fucked as hard as physically possible. The guy who designed it should get a Nobel prize in cleptonomics.
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's Murica for you. The F-35 has come down in price quite a bit and after some growing pains performs pretty well. The acquisitions process needs fixed though to prevent that debacle from happening again. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:07:57 PM EST
[#27]
There is billions of dollars of stuff on that production floor.... damn.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:11:30 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF?? They never heard of a flush fit screwhead? "BAH! Good Russian engine power overcome surface drag! That’s Russian state of the art stuff Look at their commercial stuff; wavy skins, mis-drilled rivets and bolt holes, leaking hydraulics. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:31:58 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF?? They never heard of a flush fit screwhead? "BAH! Good Russian engine power overcome surface drag! The screws are exposed but flush to the metal skin but not to the RAM coating the surface. USAF aircraft take care of that. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 4:33:24 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Production SU-57 built: 6 (one crashed, only 5 flying) Production F-35 built: 850+ GD: The F35 sucks, bring back the Sopwith Camels, dur hur dur. F35 hate on here is truly irrational. Kinda wondered if some of it is a result of opfor info ops. Similarly, GD will also tell you that North Korea and Iran will curb stomp the us on day one of conflict because our military is composed entirely of trannies wearing reflective safety belts and the only training they do is in wokeness. No foreign agent propos there... So is it a surprise GD wants F-16s and F-15s over F-35? Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 5:31:27 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. 
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Posted: 10/18/2022 5:41:20 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda wondered if some of it is a result of opfor info ops. Similarly, GD will also tell you that North Korea and Iran will curb stomp the us on day one of conflict because our military is composed entirely of trannies wearing reflective safety belts and the only training they do is in wokeness. No foreign agent propos there... So is it a surprise GD wants F-16s and F-15s over F-35? Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. Yes. But no. GD is not monolithic. GD is schizophrenic. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 5:43:30 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. https://newfastuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/AxuJxFD.png B1B Lancers converted to missile trucks to take out whole enemy squadrons Build 1500 more F-15 Strike Eagles with latest avionics and tech. Convert F16s to drones flown by pilots on the ground and dog fight the enemy. Lose a F16, spin up another in theater and go again. Utilize the mothballed F16 fleet, get them flying and repsawn like a freakin video game. Kamakize predator drones packed with explosives to make runs on those Mil converted islands. There are many things that can be done! The ChiCommie motherfuckers have been using shell companies to obtain United States tech and software to gain an edge in hypersonic missiles, planes and other hardware. Academic pier review papers submitted has also been used as a work around to secure and prohibited release of classified tech. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:34:32 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. But no. GD is not monolithic. GD is schizophrenic. GD hates everything. I stopped trying to keep up and form my own opinions. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:38:03 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GD hates everything. I stopped trying to keep up and form my own opinions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. But no. GD is not monolithic. GD is schizophrenic. GD hates everything. I stopped trying to keep up and form my own opinions. Arfcom's razor GD is going to GD |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:38:06 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. You really can't go wrong with the Slim Pickens Guidance Package. I listen to a podcast called the Greg Krino show. He advises his listeners to go yell at their congressional representatives that the A-10 is too important to be divested. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:48:05 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda wondered if some of it is a result of opfor info ops. Similarly, GD will also tell you that North Korea and Iran will curb stomp the us on day one of conflict because our military is composed entirely of trannies wearing reflective safety belts and the only training they do is in wokeness. No foreign agent propos there... So is it a surprise GD wants F-16s and F-15s over F-35? Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Production SU-57 built: 6 (one crashed, only 5 flying) Production F-35 built: 850+ GD: The F35 sucks, bring back the Sopwith Camels, dur hur dur. F35 hate on here is truly irrational. Kinda wondered if some of it is a result of opfor info ops. Similarly, GD will also tell you that North Korea and Iran will curb stomp the us on day one of conflict because our military is composed entirely of trannies wearing reflective safety belts and the only training they do is in wokeness. No foreign agent propos there... So is it a surprise GD wants F-16s and F-15s over F-35? Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. I like Fat Amy we need more. We also need F-4’s because they are awesome. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 7:34:53 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Production SU-57 built: 6 (one crashed, only 5 flying) Production F-35 built: 850+ GD: The F35 sucks, bring back the Sopwith Camels, dur hur dur. F35 hate on here is truly irrational. Yup pretty much this. And those 5 Su-57's aren't anywhere near as capable as the F35 in the areas that actually matter in modern war. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:19:23 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup pretty much this. And those 5 Su-57's aren't anywhere near as capable as the F35 in the areas that actually matter in modern war. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Production SU-57 built: 6 (one crashed, only 5 flying) Production F-35 built: 850+ GD: The F35 sucks, bring back the Sopwith Camels, dur hur dur. F35 hate on here is truly irrational. Yup pretty much this. And those 5 Su-57's aren't anywhere near as capable as the F35 in the areas that actually matter in modern war. BUT MUH DOG FIGHTING PRETENDING AVIONICS DON'T MATTER oh well still f22 lmao |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:26:53 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BUT MUH DOG FIGHTING PRETENDING AVIONICS DON'T MATTER oh well still f22 lmao Yeah more or less. Though I'd guess the F22 is not quite on par with the 35 avionics wise. The US at this point is at least 20 years ahead of china or russia in terms of "tech" stuff. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:52:40 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The SU-57 meme “Stealth” “5th Gen” Op is right. The Felon is SO stealthy that the closer they get to completing one...it refuses to show up on film as well as radar |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:52:48 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have the OV-10 fan boys showed up yet? |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:54:04 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Bomb bay" of J-20: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/screenshot-eng-chinamil-com-cn-2018-11-1-2567448.JPG Bomb bay of F-22: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/oekievhke6341_jpg-2567449.JPG Discuss. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 8:58:00 PM EST
[#44]
I was given a tour of the F-35 line.
It really is quite impressive. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 9:02:41 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The J-20 fan boy will do; more than enough play in the sand.  After My Laughter, Came Tears |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 9:09:32 PM EST
[#46]
Look at their commercial stuff; wavy skins, mis-drilled rivets and bolt holes, leaking hydraulics. How else are you supposed to know if it still has hydraulic fluid or not?? |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 10:37:20 PM EST
[#47]
 
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Posted: 10/18/2022 10:44:42 PM EST
[#48]
The SU-57 is way stealthier than the F-35. I've seen dozens of F-35s flying and I'm just a civilian with no special detection capabilities. I've never seen an Su-57 fly. That's how stealthy they are.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 10:46:44 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now show us on the map where the supply for the parts comes from. Then remind me who is on who's "side" Then show me how many of those jets they can build if they don't get the parts they need. We've already seen what happens when we don't get parts for all of those trucks we can build https://www.motorbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Sea-of-Ford-F-150-pickups-Getty-6.jpg This is why we have export control, actually it is exactly why we have export control and domestic production requirements for DOD contracts. |
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Posted: 10/19/2022 8:19:23 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda wondered if some of it is a result of opfor info ops. Similarly, GD will also tell you that North Korea and Iran will curb stomp the us on day one of conflict because our military is composed entirely of trannies wearing reflective safety belts and the only training they do is in wokeness. No foreign agent propos there... So is it a surprise GD wants F-16s and F-15s over F-35? Then again, GD would also have the Navy full of battleships modified to launch F-14s, the Army should have 1000 A-10s and revert to M14/1911, the Marines should ditch the V-22 and go back to LCVP and LVTs, and our strategic deterrent should be B-52Gs carrying B-41 gravity bombs with the Slim Pickens guidance package... enemy info ops truly are indistinguishable from serious mouth breathing. We'll never go bombs over Beijing. Fuck the Air Force. At some point the very nature of reality becomes suspect. |
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