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Posted: 12/4/2019 8:44:19 AM EST
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The article is short on details. How was this info obtained? Was this a result of a subpoena? |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 8:45:47 AM EST
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Trump gets reelected in a landslide, 100% |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 8:48:41 AM EST
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As the Republicans get steamrolled by the Democrats, yet again, remember this https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/14/nobody-but-me-opposed-obama-in-2009/ Compare how Obama was treated by the Republicans, with how the Democrats are acting towards Trump. Republicans are losers. Have been since '95/96 Quote HistoryQuoted:
As the Republicans get steamrolled by the Democrats, yet again, remember this There wasn’t any opposition to Obama to speak of because of fear, Smokey — and the fear was palpable, and the fear was of race. I mean, here we had the first African-American elected president in the history of the country. I guarantee you, even if they had no fear, there was no way the Republican Party was going to publicly, vividly oppose anything, particularly right off the bat and right out of the box. And Obama and the Democrats knew it, and that’s why…
They had that stimulus bill written and ready to go on January 9th. Two weeks, essentially — a week and a half — before Obama was inaugurated. They had it on his desk his first day in office. You contrast that with any Republican. They’ve supposedly been working on repeal and replace of Obamacare since Obamacare, since 2010. And it was just last week that we had the bill presented, and it wasn’t anything like the six repeal bills that they sent to Obama that he vetoed. Look, the Republicans are not made out of the same stuff Democrats are. I mean, Democrats are born to use government, to take it over, to wield its various levers of power to their benefit. Republicans, conservatives, they’re not… We’re not… We don’t even think of government that way. We want to get it to be as invisible as it can and still function. But there’s more to it than that too. I just have run out of time here. But I promise you, Smokey, I’m gonna answer this in full detail when we get back. Compare how Obama was treated by the Republicans, with how the Democrats are acting towards Trump. Republicans are losers. Have been since '95/96 |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 8:49:28 AM EST
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As the Republicans get steamrolled by the Democrats, yet again, remember this https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/14/nobody-but-me-opposed-obama-in-2009/ Compare how Obama was treated by the Republicans, with how the Democrats are acting towards Trump. Republicans are losers. Have been since '95/96 |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:05:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. Apparently COC violation needs to occur but of course we'll be told evil nazi racist alt-right whit supremacists, etc. only do COC violations. This is frigging ridiculous. All the FISA 702 violations under Obama that are now continuing despite some efforts by Admiral Rogers to prevent them, the abuse of various monitoring methods by Mueller's team, Marie Yovonovich's monitoring of journalists, and now this. It is one continual abuse of power and the reasons are simple; ideological power. If they lose in 2020...if they lose this impeachment battle...unbelievable. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:12:38 AM EST
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The FBI is the paramilitary wing of the DNC. They might be the ones doing the wiretapping. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't the AG and FBI Director do something about this? Or am I dreaming.  |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:21:56 AM EST
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Since '89. This GHWB type stuff. If only we could have back pre-plane complaining Newt. After that, they seem to win almost every public debate. That commercial playing Newt saying he wanted medicare to "whither on the vine" was IMO the beginnings of the modern Democrat spin machine. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:24:23 AM EST
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A counter-coup is warranted. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:25:52 AM EST
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Republicans basically suck at PR. The Democrats are literally doing everything they are accusing the Republicans of doing
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:27:56 AM EST
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The Dems are completely out of control and delusional. What a shitshow  they know exactly what they are doing |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:32:46 AM EST
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A counter-coup is warranted. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:34:18 AM EST
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Trump needs to lay all of this out during his annual state of the nation address when all the MSM are basically forced to carry it live to the country.
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:41:13 AM EST
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Secret courts, government police listening to the phones of the press and private citizens, and a show trial for the media. The military is being used as a tool for social policy, employment opportunity is based on espoused political beliefs, and the schools are full of socialists and communists.
Stalin would be impressed. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:42:18 AM EST
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Lamest coup evar. This is particularly dirty politics, not a "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government." Can't just misuse words to make a point like leftists do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are in an active coup attempt. Can't just misuse words to make a point like leftists do. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:45:46 AM EST
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I kind of wish I was a Democrat. There is nothing their side won’t do to win. No law they won’t break, no crime they won’t commit, no institution they won’t corrupt, no line they won’t cross. Their politicians never betray them. There’s no such thing as a DINO. When they get power they run roughshod with it. They control the schools, colleges, the media, Hollywood, the music industry, the comic industry, social media, the tech industry, most of the judiciary and list goes on and on. It would be great if I thought that way. But I surely do not. I’m not at all surprised to find out Schiff spied on Nunes. It’s the kind of thing you would expect a corrupt, soulless politician to do. And he knows because of the two tier justice system he will pay no price, even though a Republican would. Must be nice. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 9:49:39 AM EST
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No, the best course is to stomp them at the ballot box. Republicans need to get the American people on their side, to the point where Dems abandon all this because they see its sinking their ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A counter-coup is warranted. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 10:01:56 AM EST
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What reason did shchiff have to spy on nunes? I can imagine there are some house rules that says thats a no no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of wish I was a Democrat. There is nothing their side won’t do to win. No law they won’t break, no crime they won’t commit, no institution they won’t corrupt, no line they won’t cross. Their politicians never betray them. There’s no such thing as a DINO. When they get power they run roughshod with it. They control the schools, colleges, the media, Hollywood, the music industry, the comic industry, social media, the tech industry, most of the judiciary and list goes on and on. It would be great if I thought that way. But I surely do not. I’m not at all surprised to find out Schiff spied on Nunes. It’s the kind of thing you would expect a corrupt, soulless politician to do. And he knows because of the two tier justice system he will pay no price, even though a Republican would. Must be nice. Orangemanbad. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 10:13:39 AM EST
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nope they know exactly what they are doing Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dems are completely out of control and delusional. What a shitshow they know exactly what they are doing |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:27:19 AM EST
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:30:01 AM EST
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We are in an active coup attempt. Blatantly obvious at this point |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:35:49 AM EST
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No, the best course is to stomp them at the ballot box. Republicans need to get the American people on their side, to the point where Dems abandon all this because they see its sinking their ship. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A counter-coup is warranted. A coup attempt cannot be normalized by saying "just vote them out". It must never become the norm. Those responsible must be held accountable. I fear they will not be. If they aren't, well... any possible outcome is terrible for the country. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:36:02 AM EST
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This. Trump has been investigated since before he was elected. Because the left couldn't accept his election, they have shown their hand in ways I hope they live to regret. Can you imagine the shit show that would have happened if even one of Obama's illegal acts got investigated by the right like this? The media would have obliterated the right. Yet they are doing whatever they can, no matter the cost to their credibility, to help bring down trump..... which at the end if trump's presidency.... will only really show trump as one of the most honest presidents ever elected as what other president could withstand such politically motivated nvestigation his entire term and not fall to some pedantic charge.... while still accomplishing shit at such a record setting pace? The left doesn't hate Trump because he's Trump, they simply hate the fact he is thwarting their power grab. The right likes him because he fights their power grab in no uncertain terms. There is no "Trump cult", of any significance. NeverTrump and the left (but I repeat myself) have to lie about his supporters. They can't afford the truth. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:36:06 AM EST
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FPNI.
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:36:41 AM EST
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Yep. Blatantly obvious at this point Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We are in an active coup attempt. Blatantly obvious at this point |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:43:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both sides have been doing this shit since the 60’s. Give me some proven examples .. nothing is going to happen. Can you prove that at this time? Is your crystal ball best crystal ball? The left is currently engaged in a soft coup. That can easily morph into a hard coup, depending on how things play out, because the stakes are now very high. Pretty soon the options drop to 1) tyranny and 2) civil war. Either way, something happens. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:52:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you one of those people your accusing others of being. No one's going to say anything on an open forum. That could get them arrested or investigated. You question is stupid. Those upset we didn't kick off a revolution over the '86 MG ban or NFA '34 don't have a clue. This is different. The left is using illegal means in an attempt to unseat or hogtie an elected POTUS. We can see clearly what is happening. It is a soft coup. A coup attempt where tanks in the streets are replaced by quasilegal proceedings rooted in illegal acts by deep state actors in the secret police agencies and other government agencies. We have (perhaps) a small chance we can turn this around using normal process and winning elections. What we have learned in the last four years is that things were much worse and farther along than we thought. Our options become bleak if the Democrats do not suffer a devastating political defeat over this. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:53:25 AM EST
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The FBI and AG are in on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't the AG and FBI Director do something about this? Or am I dreaming. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:58:35 AM EST
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Republicans basically suck at PR. The Democrats are literally doing everything they are accusing the Republicans of doing conservatives win on platforms like youtube, which is why youtube acts to silence them. The left can't win a fair fight, so it tips the field. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 11:59:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, the best course is to stomp them at the ballot box. Republicans need to get the American people on their side, to the point where Dems abandon all this because they see its sinking their ship. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:02:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a Coup, just one that is being done in the open and with legal tactics. not all Coups are violent initially, but usually end that way. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:07:23 PM EST
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If that fails, it will soon cease to be an option. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No, the best course is to stomp them at the ballot box. Republicans need to get the American people on their side, to the point where Dems abandon all this because they see its sinking their ship. Democrats have the Black Vote Plantation to count on. Republicans have the Church Vote Plantation to count on. Neither actually give a shit. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:19:22 PM EST
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i'm holding out for Barr to come through... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't the AG and FBI Director do something about this? Or am I dreaming. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:26:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn’t hold your breath. So far Barr has proven to be Sessions swampier and lazier brother. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:34:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were rules saying you can't do State department business from an unsecured private bathroom server - BUT HEY. Orangemanbad. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:36:33 PM EST
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Schiff and Pelosi need to explain to the American people how this is different from what Nixon did.
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:42:48 PM EST
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The far right column in that pic where it says Bates AT&T whatever gooblitey-guck, and what looks to be a date.... What does that mean exactly? Was some AT&T employee by the name of "Bates" the one who pulled those records? On that date? And if so, do we ever get to see this Bates person testify before he or she gets suicided? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: ETA: Here are more record snap shots: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33324/nunes-call-records-1-1182931.jpg What does that mean exactly? Was some AT&T employee by the name of "Bates" the one who pulled those records? On that date? And if so, do we ever get to see this Bates person testify before he or she gets suicided? I.e. once again abusing spying. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 12:54:26 PM EST
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Republicans don't give a shit about the American people on their side or not. Democrats have the Black Vote Plantation to count on. Republicans have the Church Vote Plantation to count on. Neither actually give a shit. (A) They (left) know they are in trouble for 2020. Hence, peach mints. That and they are terrified that their gravy train of dirty money is going to be cut off for good. AOC was dumb enough to say so publicly in the last month, see A. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 1:03:04 PM EST
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Wrong... as usual. A coup attempt cannot be normalized by saying "just vote them out". It must never become the norm. Those responsible must be held accountable. I fear they will not be. If they aren't, well... any possible outcome is terrible for the country. |
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Posted: 12/4/2019 1:16:07 PM EST
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I think they want to really get this Boogaloo going. 
Historically Communists rise to power during and after civil war, very few historical exceptions exist. Ours Revolution against Great Britain, and a few U.S.S.R. satellite countries +... Why do you think they have agents provocateur here and on other websites pushing for a boogaloo? The legal fight is not over yet, support our representatives that are loyal, shit can the ones that aren't and vote. We pissed in their cheerios in 2016 with EVERYTHING in cankles favor including epic levels of vote fraud. We can do it again. But keep your powder dry, just in case. 
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Posted: 12/4/2019 1:17:56 PM EST
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possibly not, several federal agencies have admin subpoena powers. This is likely to go unnoticed in the usual media outlets, but it's a pretty big fucking deal. Makes Watergate seam like childs play Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/6/2019 10:42:02 PM EST
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Secret courts, government police listening to the phones of the press and private citizens, and a show trial for the media. The military is being used as a tool for social policy, employment opportunity is based on espoused political beliefs, and the schools are full of socialists and communists. Stalin would be impressed. |
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Posted: 12/6/2019 11:11:48 PM EST
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If only that were satire. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Secret courts, government police listening to the phones of the press and private citizens, and a show trial for the media. The military is being used as a tool for social policy, employment opportunity is based on espoused political beliefs, and the schools are full of socialists and communists. Stalin would be impressed. They were correct. (yes, decade after decade) |
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Posted: 12/6/2019 11:21:16 PM EST
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So I read on the FoxNews app that the phone calls from Rudy weren't to the OMB as was speculated by Schiff and clown company. It was to a White House switchboard a generic number. So all that pomp and circumstance for nothing.
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Posted: 12/6/2019 11:26:23 PM EST
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There is no whistle blower. The wire taps are the whistle blower.
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Posted: 12/6/2019 11:46:47 PM EST
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We are in an active coup attempt. |
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Posted: 12/6/2019 11:52:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FBI And DOJ more than likely used a national security letter. I.e. once again abusing spying. I have speculated for years now that the cell phone providers record every conversation....ya know ... for "quality assurance purposes". Which in my opinion was the big deal about meta-data when the whole Snowden thing came to light. What metadata actually is....is like those library card catalogs....if you are old enough to remember those...no, I am not a boomer. 
/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/af/ac/afac33cd-f4c9-4258-bd83-ea79c5c0152e/42-73700646.jpg)
What if that goobity-guck in the right column is where the actual verbal content of the phone conversation is stored? For reference:  Former FBI Agent implies that phone companies record conversations on CNN |
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Posted: 12/8/2019 1:58:56 PM EST
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Of course all phone conversations are recorded. Why do you think the Democrats only have their "impeachment" planning sessions in the SCIF or only after taking other appropriate precautions?
That said, surely there are phone records of Democrats planning illegal shit, besides all the FBI texts. Why has the Trump admin not pulled some of that? IMO the "soft coup" IS a national security issue. |
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