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Just bought 10,000 rds of Tula on a site for $3k shipped.
If you can do it then it would be best to go forward and make the purchase. Don’t kick yourself later. No one here is going to start making cheap 7.62x39 soon. |
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Quoted: He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone who says price gouge about any product at any time in any place is a faggot of the utmost proportions. He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. You're upset at him for metering his stock levels so he can accurately price his inventory to the market? |
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Quoted: With his supply chain possibly being disrupted for months, years, or forever.what exact price should he sell his property to you for to keep you happy? View Quote This. He's supposed to sell at yesterday's price forever? Today's price has to be based on replacement cost - right now there probably is no calculable replacement cost. Makes today's price pretty hard to determine, so he's wisely taking it off the table. |
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Quoted: And GD talked shit about him for doing it. Can't win for losing around here. Sam gave people the opportunity to buy it while it was cheap, if they didn't take advantage of it in favor of talking shit, that's on them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So he's gonna price gouge? This. He's got a history of doing this He sent emails for years saying "buy this shit while it's cheap". And GD talked shit about him for doing it. Can't win for losing around here. Sam gave people the opportunity to buy it while it was cheap, if they didn't take advantage of it in favor of talking shit, that's on them. |
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I have about 10k 7.62x39. Going to save it now and shoot my 5.56 until other manufactures pick up the slack.
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Quoted: Just bought 10,000 rds of Tula on a site for $3k shipped. If you can do it then it would be best to go forward and make the purchase. Don’t kick yourself later. No one here is going to start making cheap 7.62x39 soon. View Quote Once I started hand loading it I never looked back. Was lucky enough to stumble into a couple deals on brass. As an aside, Starline makes good brass and it’s competitively priced. |
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Ammo and primers are going to become more expensive.
I hope everyone is ready for their $1 a round 9mm ball ammo to go with $5 a gallon gas. |
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Quoted: So he's gonna price gouge? View Quote He cannot price gouge, as it's a myth absent the above conditions. He can adjust market price to the new demand curve, since his supply is now highly volatile. |
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Quoted: Why did he lose respect for gauging demand? How do you think price discovery occurs? View Quote He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. |
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Quoted: With his supply chain possibly being disrupted for months, years, or forever….what exact price should he sell his property to you for to keep you happy? View Quote I dont have an AK so it can be $100 a round if he wants. Its his ammo and his business. Im just calling it what it is. |
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Quoted: He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone who says price gouge about any product at any time in any place is a faggot of the utmost proportions. He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. He stated the reason he did that was to stop the neckbeards from taking it all and then turning around to sell it to you at a 200% markup. Are you a neckbeard? |
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Russian ammo imports were already over after the current contracts were filled from the last round of sanctions
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Quoted: He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why did he lose respect for gauging demand? How do you think price discovery occurs? He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. I used SG and Aim probably close to a 50/50 split pre 2020. The last 2 years SG is just no longer competitive. I don't even look there anymore. Aim and PSA are my go to for ammo now. |
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Meh.
I bought when he told to stack deep and said prices were at all time low. When he said things were going to get bad, he gave plenty of warning. Wish I had money then for m193, but I'll take the stacks of steel I could afford. Only those who didn't buy cheap are pissy. |
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I don't know why I click on these threads anymore. "There's no such thing as price gouging!" lol, ok, it's something nearly everyone can identify and we have a name for it, yet it somehow doesn't exist.
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Quoted: He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why did he lose respect for gauging demand? How do you think price discovery occurs? He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. Your beef is with people that can't control their emotionally driven spending habits. There were plenty of places selling ammo at the same price as Sam. It's not his fault if people's Google is broken. |
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Can't sell it for less than you can restock it for and with that up in the air stopping sales isn't a bad idea
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Quoted: Would those sanctions apply to ammunition that has already legally been imported into the United States? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Probably not a bad idea, unfortunately. Biden would be more than happy to permanently close businesses like SG ammo and violating sanctions would be a good enough excuse. Would those sanctions apply to ammunition that has already legally been imported into the United States? Legally, no. But we’ve seen some things that seem to defy legality at times, no? |
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Other sites sell Bulgarian and other than Russian 7.62x39 but i see the prices have gone up this morning as well. Global ordinance, tactical shit etc
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Quoted: With his supply chain possibly being disrupted for months, years, or forever….what exact price should he sell his property to you for to keep you happy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So he's gonna price gouge? With his supply chain possibly being disrupted for months, years, or forever….what exact price should he sell his property to you for to keep you happy? $87 |
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Quoted: I don't blame him. If Russian ammo is a sig % of his inventory and sales and sanctions rob him of that inventory in the future he's smart to squirrel away that inventory so he has something to sell later. Doing so vs not doing so might mean the difference of staying in business vs. laying people off or going out of business. View Quote Yep. The average GD'er these days can't comprehend much beyond shitposting, though. Sad. Sam is an honest guy in a volatile business. |
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Quoted: Business 101: You sell your goods based on what replenishment will cost not based on what you paid for it. He has no idea if or when or how much cost he can restock his Russian sourced ammo if the POTATUS decides to ban Russian ammo. View Quote This right here. It absolutely amazes me how many folks here have no fucking concept of how to run a business. Not to mention the fact that they've had no telling how long to stockpile at good prices, but now they're going to get pissy because a vendor decides to look out for his own best interests. |
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Quoted: Just bought 10,000 rds of Tula on a site for $3k shipped. If you can do it then it would be best to go forward and make the purchase. Don’t kick yourself later. No one here is going to start making cheap 7.62x39 soon. View Quote I'll bet I know where you snagged it at https://heritagearmory.com/tula-7-62x39mm-33-case-half-pallet-35-per-round/?sku=22110-1 Holy dogshit Anyone got 18 grand to burn? ETA: this business shows permanently closed and may be a scam |
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Quoted: He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why did he lose respect for gauging demand? How do you think price discovery occurs? He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. I never saw the inventory shenanigans but CTD is infamous for their negative savings right after the '08 election. Attached File |
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Quoted: I used SG and Aim probably close to a 50/50 split pre 2020. The last 2 years SG is just no longer competitive. I don't even look there anymore. Aim and PSA are my go to for ammo now. View Quote It's likely hard to remain competitive if your main product has narrow margins whereas your competition is has diversified product to help keep the lights on so they might be able to sell it a bit cheaper.. |
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Quoted: I'll bet I know where you snagged it at https://heritagearmory.com/tula-7-62x39mm-33-case-half-pallet-35-per-round/?sku=22110-1 Holy dogshit Anyone got 18 grand to burn? View Quote https://heritagearmory.com/tula-7-62x39mm-20-container-1-072-000-rounds-29-per-round/ |
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Quoted: I'll bet I know where you snagged it at https://heritagearmory.com/tula-7-62x39mm-33-case-half-pallet-35-per-round/?sku=22110-1 Holy dogshit Anyone got 18 grand to burn? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just bought 10,000 rds of Tula on a site for $3k shipped. If you can do it then it would be best to go forward and make the purchase. Don’t kick yourself later. No one here is going to start making cheap 7.62x39 soon. I'll bet I know where you snagged it at https://heritagearmory.com/tula-7-62x39mm-33-case-half-pallet-35-per-round/?sku=22110-1 Holy dogshit Anyone got 18 grand to burn? When it's delivered When the credit card bill is due. |
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Quoted: If he puts it up for sale now it'll just get bought up by flippers. I'd rather him make the money on it than some random dickhead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So he's gonna price gouge? If he puts it up for sale now it'll just get bought up by flippers. I'd rather him make the money on it than some random dickhead. Aimless will be our go to ? |
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Quoted: He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why did he lose respect for gauging demand? How do you think price discovery occurs? He used to be the best in the game. I was a customer for thousands of dollars with him. The last few years have been more CTD though. His business, his rules. And to an extent you're correct - if people are willing to pay then that must be what they're willing to spend. But when your business is to suggest stock is almost out entirely to play on their fears and get them to pull the card out, I'll not do business with you again. As ever, your mileage may vary. You will run out of people to do business with if you don't understand business. Do you really think Sam is sitting on a pile of gold tapping his fingers together or do you think he's a small business owner figuring out how to stay profitable, provide for his family and keep guys employed? And before anyone says it, that's not being dramatic |
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Quoted: Quoted: I used SG and Aim probably close to a 50/50 split pre 2020. The last 2 years SG is just no longer competitive. I don't even look there anymore. Aim and PSA are my go to for ammo now. So Aim doesn't buy ammo from distributors? |
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Happy I bought a bundle of that custom Barnaul stuff he had a while back. Those 62 grain soft points for like 16 cents per round are pretty sweet.
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A couple weeks ago I got 2000 rounds of wpa.45 for my Mac-10, which loves it. I bought specifically because I thought this shit would happen. Glad I did
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Quoted: He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone who says price gouge about any product at any time in any place is a faggot of the utmost proportions. He lost a lot of respect by manipulating his inventory numbers. 10 in stock...7...3...1... Then 10 in stock again. That’s my only real problem with him. It just seems sleazy. I have bought from him in the past but I’m it sure I’ll do so again when there are other options out there. |
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Quoted: Ok yeah that's a good point. I loathe the flippers more. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If he puts it up for sale now it'll just get bought up by flippers. I'd rather him make the money on it than some random dickhead. Ok yeah that's a good point. I loathe the flippers more. I saw lots of them at the last gun show I went to. |
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Quoted: Russian ammo imports were already over after the current contracts were filled from the last round of sanctions View Quote Ordered a couple cases yesterday before Putins speech and grabbed 1 more just now. Most sites went up but I'm not paying that right now. Hopefully my orders don't get canceled because I just need enough to hold me over until PSA comes through. Didn't plan on training too much with AKs but I want to shoot them and steel 223 was going to be my new wolf gold until bras came down a bit We already knew it was finite anyway and after the initial panic it started to sit again and I was trying to stack but oh well. |
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Quoted: It's likely hard to remain competitive if your main product has narrow margins whereas your competition is has diversified product to help keep the lights on so they might be able to sell it a bit cheaper.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I used SG and Aim probably close to a 50/50 split pre 2020. The last 2 years SG is just no longer competitive. I don't even look there anymore. Aim and PSA are my go to for ammo now. It's likely hard to remain competitive if your main product has narrow margins whereas your competition is has diversified product to help keep the lights on so they might be able to sell it a bit cheaper.. SG can sell guns and parts too. |
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