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Quoted: It's not just ammo. Everybody wants to be a capitalist until it's time to do capitalist shit. I call the phenomenon Laissez-faire-weather economics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Whenever the topic of ammo and gun prices come up. Half of arfcom suddenly becomes communists. It's not just ammo. Everybody wants to be a capitalist until it's time to do capitalist shit. I call the phenomenon Laissez-faire-weather economics. That's perfect. Seriously - that's the perfect way to put it! |
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Quoted: He's always saying the sky is falling, maybe it is. If you didn't stack it deep when it was around two hundred a case, or cheaper, you get what you deserve. View Quote FOMO Again even if you have 50k+ stocked piled and shoot only a case or 2 a year then I understand the "should have" arguments but most of you guys can't possibly shoot much. Honestly what really needs to come down is pistol ammo. It's damn near rifle cartridge prices and a case of 9 goes way faster than a case of x39, 556, or 308 for me and I like rifle shooting better. |
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Maybe some should email SGammo links to all the other stores with Russian ammo in stock so he can neck beard it. lol
7.62x39 1000rds @ $314.48 |
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Quoted: I'm going to buy ammo from him and then throw it in the trash View Quote Or just let me know and we can shoot it through my trash can gun. That’s pretty much the same thing, right? I don’t believe in price gouging, but I am also aware there is such a thing as “optics”. It seems SG ammo was set up so that only a portion of inventory would show in stock at any time. I would just have toggled some feature and allowed whatever was being showed as in stock to sell out and then not replenish. I have no dog in this fight. I haven’t purchased from SGM in years, not because I was ever angry at any sort of “price gouging”, just they were no longer competitive on most and then basically all of their prices. I feel like Sam’s business model may not be viable soon. |
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Quoted: Or just let me know and we can shoot it through my trash can gun. That’s pretty much the same thing, right? I don’t believe in price gouging, but I am also aware there is such a thing as “optics”. It seems SG ammo was set up so that only a portion of inventory would show in stock at any time. I would just have toggled some feature and allowed whatever was being showed as in stock to sell out and then not replenish. I have no dog in this fight. I haven’t purchased from SGM in years, not because I was ever angry at any sort of “price gouging”, just they were no longer competitive on most and then basically all of their prices. I feel like Sam’s business model may not be viable soon. View Quote He probably hasn't gotten his ducks in a row in preparation for the sanctions yet. Capitalism and capitalizing can be 2 different things. Good capitalists would find a way to fill a need in the market. He should definitely do what is best for his situation so I can't possibly be mad at him but I like a company that says don't worry we will figure out how to get something to the market rather than his approach but he is rich and I am poor so there's that. SG ammo to arfcomers Attached File |
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Sam was telling people to buy when russian .223 got down to .18 cents per round and it wouldn't go any lower.
Now "he's"......pRiCe gOWJinG Lmao...people never learn. |
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Quoted: Sam was telling people to buy when russian .223 got down to .18 cents per round and it wouldn't go any lower. Now "he's"......pRiCe gOWJinG Lmao...people never learn. View Quote i bought 2 cases of the IMI m193 a month back then from him. it gives me warm fuzzies when i look at a closet full of it now. thanks sam |
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Quoted: Maybe some should email SGammo links to all the other stores with Russian ammo in stock so he can neck beard it. lol 7.62x39 1000rds @ $314.48 View Quote This guy sees the market differently than Sam does. If he's right, he makes a sale right now and Sam gets nothing. If Sam's right, he'll have a sale down the road at a higher price but no cash coming in at the moment, which he may or may not need at the moment. Either way, the consumer has a supply to choose from now or later. The consumer gets to decide if he needs it now or later, with the caveat that price may be significantly different later. |
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Quoted: I have been on or around this forum for twenty years. This is exactly what GD is when it comes to prices on just about anything. For being "conservatives" - this place has really turned into Reddit gun.deals. Totally out of touch with how a market works. View Quote It wasn't always this bad. The last five years GD has changed quite a bit, pretty much all for the worse. It seems like the average member kind of retarded nowadays. |
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Quoted: Sam was telling people to buy when russian .223 got down to .18 cents per round and it wouldn't go any lower. Now "he's"......pRiCe gOWJinG Lmao...people never learn. View Quote He was with all ammo, he wasn't doing buyers a favor, he was attempting to get people to purchase from him. Those e-mails were interspaced with the whiney ones about how much ammo he has and how he's selling it at cost, etc. That's smart for a business owner, especially when your product isn't selling as fast as it previously did. SGA making that post was stupid, him pulling the ammo isn't stupid. People with the ammo market are a trip. Panic aside, you buy when you need it, when you find a good price, or when you kind of want more and find an acceptable price. Sitting around doing the "it'll go lower, I'm waiting" bit could possibly bite one in the ass...but, you obviously don't buy at CTD or SGA prices when there are other vendors. These people have already approved permits to import from Russia, but Customs could shut that down tomorrow if they wanted or things get worse. |
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Quoted: Or just let me know and we can shoot it through my trash can gun. That’s pretty much the same thing, right? I don’t believe in price gouging, but I am also aware there is such a thing as “optics”. It seems SG ammo was set up so that only a portion of inventory would show in stock at any time. I would just have toggled some feature and allowed whatever was being showed as in stock to sell out and then not replenish. I have no dog in this fight. I haven’t purchased from SGM in years, not because I was ever angry at any sort of “price gouging”, just they were no longer competitive on most and then basically all of their prices. I feel like Sam’s business model may not be viable soon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm going to buy ammo from him and then throw it in the trash Or just let me know and we can shoot it through my trash can gun. That’s pretty much the same thing, right? I don’t believe in price gouging, but I am also aware there is such a thing as “optics”. It seems SG ammo was set up so that only a portion of inventory would show in stock at any time. I would just have toggled some feature and allowed whatever was being showed as in stock to sell out and then not replenish. I have no dog in this fight. I haven’t purchased from SGM in years, not because I was ever angry at any sort of “price gouging”, just they were no longer competitive on most and then basically all of their prices. I feel like Sam’s business model may not be viable soon. We should shoot again sometime brother |
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Quoted: He was with all ammo, he wasn't doing buyers a favor, he was attempting to get people to purchase from him. Those e-mails were interspaced with the whiney ones about how much ammo he has and how he's selling it at cost, etc. That's smart for a business owner, especially when your product isn't selling as fast as it previously did. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sam was telling people to buy when russian .223 got down to .18 cents per round and it wouldn't go any lower. Now "he's"......pRiCe gOWJinG Lmao...people never learn. He was with all ammo, he wasn't doing buyers a favor, he was attempting to get people to purchase from him. Those e-mails were interspaced with the whiney ones about how much ammo he has and how he's selling it at cost, etc. That's smart for a business owner, especially when your product isn't selling as fast as it previously did. So you're saying Sam is a savvy businessman in a market populated with consumers who are relatively unsophisticated at planning out their ammunition consumption needs and then purchasing accordingly? Or who are emotionally driven to make purchases based on what everyone else is doing? |
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Quoted: He probably hasn't gotten his ducks in a row in preparation for the sanctions yet. Capitalism and capitalizing can be 2 different things. Good capitalists would find a way to fill a need in the market. He should definitely do what is best for his situation so I can't possibly be mad at him but I like a company that says don't worry we will figure out how to get something to the market rather than his approach but he is rich and I am poor so there's that. SG ammo to arfcomers /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tenor-115.gif View Quote Adjusting the price IS DEFINITELY a way to get the product to more people. If you give away high demand product, it will be scooped up in its entirety by the first in line. Only price or artificial product qty limits avoid that. |
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Quoted: You guys remember this stuff? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/451403/SmartSelect_20220222-205647_Gmail-2289656.jpg View Quote Sure do - we have a crazy amount of cases of it. It's all we run in our 5.56 guns at the full auto shoots. |
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Quoted: So you're saying Sam is a savvy businessman in a market populated with consumers who are relatively unsophisticated at planning out their ammunition consumption needs and then purchasing accordingly? Or who are emotionally driven to make purchases based on what everyone else is doing? View Quote You bet... and as I said in a post above: "SGA making that post was stupid, him pulling the ammo isn't stupid." I was fine with SGA and order A LOT from him (because he had a ready supply of MEN 9mm). The whiney emails got on my nerves, so I removed myself from the mailing list. He started charging sales tax before it was required, I didn't like that very much. Shipping was a tad higher, but it was quick, so not a huge deal. But, his prices are shit now compared to others, but it's his ammo, so he is free to charge whatever he wants. |
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Quoted: Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: .223 has NEVER been under a quarter of a cent per round. Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao That's still well above a quarter of a cent per round comrade. You're talking 19 cents per round. LMAO decimals matter... wizkid. |
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Quoted: That's still well above a quarter of a cent per round comrade. You're talking 19 cents per round. LMAO decimals matter... wizkid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .223 has NEVER been under a quarter of a cent per round. Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao That's still well above a quarter of a cent per round comrade. You're talking 19 cents per round. LMAO decimals matter... wizkid. $189 ÷ 1,000 = $0.189 or 19 cents per round |
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Is Heritage Amory GTG and where are they located?
67 cases for 18K. |
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Quoted: Maybe some should email SGammo links to all the other stores with Russian ammo in stock so he can neck beard it. lol 7.62x39 1000rds @ $314.48 View Quote You should've linked to the one from yesterday that was 29 cpr if I recall correctly. They were the cheapest on ammoseek for a little while yesterday. I think it was cheapammo.com or something. Oh wait, you can't link to it today, because they sold it all very quickly for 29 cpr and are now today looking at their replacement cost and going "fuuuuuuck......." (probably) |
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GD: I have cases of Pmags I bought cheap and plan to sell them at insane prices during the next mag ban. Profit bitches!
Retailer has to raise prices and hold stock back during ammo shortage.... GD: Fuck that piece of shit price gouger. I'll never buy from him again. Attached File |
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Quoted: $189 ÷ 1,000 = $0.189 or 19 cents per round View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .223 has NEVER been under a quarter of a cent per round. Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao That's still well above a quarter of a cent per round comrade. You're talking 19 cents per round. LMAO decimals matter... wizkid. $189 ÷ 1,000 = $0.189 or 19 cents per round AIM Surplus used to sell 500rds brass cased 556 with a 30cal ammo can for $99. I still have two cans of it left. I wish I had 50. |
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It's insane that people are more worried about what one retailer does with a finite stock of trashcan gun ammo than the possibility of never getting more of that ammo imported again.
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Quoted: the 843 area code on their "Contact Us" page is South Carolina. I've had no dealings with them View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is Heritage Amory GTG and where are they located? 67 cases for 18K. the 843 area code on their "Contact Us" page is South Carolina. I've had no dealings with them Attached File |
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Quoted: Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: .223 has NEVER been under a quarter of a cent per round. Lmao... He had Russian .223 by the case with lacquered and sealed necks for $189/k for several years. 2019 join date historian...lmao LOL, When I was hunting something in semi-auto, evil, and weapons of war (I would like to say 1996 ish) I looked at an AR and an AK. 7.62 was about 6 cents a round, and 5.56 was about 10 cents a round. I went the AK route just on that. It was about 6 years later I started adding ARs to the mix. I miss those days of $100 per case |
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Quoted: the 843 area code on their "Contact Us" page is South Carolina. I've had no dealings with them View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is Heritage Amory GTG and where are they located? 67 cases for 18K. the 843 area code on their "Contact Us" page is South Carolina. I've had no dealings with them I know Ammoseek.com is pretty good about vetting out scam sites, but now I'm starting to think they're possibly a scam NEVER heard of anyone selling ammo by the 20 FOOT DAMN CONTAINER load to civilians ETA: they're permanently closed and their address is a church surrounded by tennis courts.... |
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Quoted: Correct. 19 cents per round, not .19 cents per round. BIG difference. Owning 50 guns isn't the same as owning .50 guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: $189 ÷ 1,000 = $0.189 or 19 cents per round Correct. 19 cents per round, not .19 cents per round. BIG difference. Owning 50 guns isn't the same as owning .50 guns. Ah, ok. Lets all pretend nobody knew what he meant and you can continue being pedantic. |
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Quoted: If he puts it up for sale now it'll just get bought up by flippers. I'd rather him make the money on it than some random dickhead. View Quote dskeet understand how the free market works, and how neck beards are.... swhy doesnt the rest of GD understandhow supply and demand works?! weve only beendoing this ever 2 years for like, since the dawn of the internets.... |
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Quoted: That's what it sounds like. Ammo futures. View Quote I hope you guys put this into your memory banks. This is what Dick's was trying to do before the Election. |
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The knuckle heads here crack me up.
Post in this thread… “He’s a dirt bag for being a capitalist!” Next post in Ukraine thread… “All commies should die, muh merica’ and capitalism is awesome!” ZA |
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Quoted: I don’t think Sam canceled a single order that was placed. If you have evidence you should provide it or correct your post. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Numerous people had orders canceled only to have it relisted. That's fuckery of top order. Edit: another thing that turned off many of us - Sam actually went to Russia to negotiate an exclusive line of 8m3 effect 7.62 ammo. Built to the exact spec of the Files' request. He brought it to market. It was repackaged Tula/common maker hollow point. I still have 500 rounds of it. He very well may have been bamboozled by the factories too. He claims he was. But that was the beginning of it all. I don’t think Sam canceled a single order that was placed. If you have evidence you should provide it or correct your post. +1. I have also never heard of him doing that. |
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I just ordered 2 cases of Tula 7.62x39 for $639 shipped from Heritage Armory
Edit: saw the stuff posted above and makes me worry but my credit card offers one time use numbers so no harm no foul I guess. I have some on hand but I have a full auto that likes to eat and then two semis but to be honest I don’t really shoot them much. Problem is that there’s really no major producer other than Soviet stuff. Figured I better get some to hold me over just in case. |
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Damn people really get upset over other people doing what they want with their own property.
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