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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:37:51 PM EST
[#1]
Nope. No big reply, no relatable story, just a big NOPE.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:40:15 PM EST
[#2]
Quoted: Hell no Quoted: Not only that but hell fuckin no The first and third post nailed it! I'd never, ever, allow myself to get put in that kind of situation with family. ETA: Thinking more on it, now they've put you out with this imposition, I wouldn't even let them borrow it. You run it for them to help on some of their projects, if you've got the time, sure. Nothing more or you're going to regret it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:41:18 PM EST
[#3]
My house would be up for sale tomorrow.
I don’t deal well with stupid people. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:41:41 PM EST
[#4]
Nope
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:43:28 PM EST
[#5]
Ain’t. No. Fuckin. Way. In. Hell.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:43:56 PM EST
[#6]
Imagine yourself moving a huge tree that fell over your drive and not having access to your tractor no matter the reason.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:45:29 PM EST
[#7]
Hell no
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:46:57 PM EST
[#8]
As a tractor owner I say no way. I loaned mine to a good friend and my 3 point mower came back trashed. Deck was bent, blades were trashed. I heard from another friend he was clearing a lot and was driving over rocks. It took me awhile to clean it up and fix the deck. I let it go and didn't make a big deal of it. He asked me to borrow it again and I firmly said no. Don't do it!
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:51:01 PM EST
[#9]
You should anticipate being asked to purchase their half back when they decide they are done with it. Everyone knows that tractors never lose value, so expect it to be the original price they paid.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:55:16 PM EST
[#10]
No no no and hell no
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:08:46 PM EST
[#11]
There is an old saying my dad said many times. Don't loan out your car or your girlfriend, You never know when someone might throw a rod in either one. That is a 100% bad idea. If they have 1/2 the money for a tractor then they have a nice down payment on a new tractor
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:10:46 PM EST
[#12]
Can I borrow your truck for some "light" off-roading?
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:10:56 PM EST
[#13]
That would be a "hard no". They need to buy their own tractor. When they get it stuck or broke down you will need yours to pull them out/ back to their place.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:11:03 PM EST
[#14]
Sell them your tractor
They just want a cheap tractor to beat the hell out and stick you with the bill...they might not know that yet though. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:11:09 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell no Point them to the nearest rental place - asking you to subsidize their lives is too much to ask, even for family. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:15:09 PM EST
[#16]
I have a used tractor , I bought it when I bought my new house. Things break and need repairs and maintenance. I operate and I pay attention to what I hit with the bush hog because I have to fix it. I do not have the same confidence in others. You rarely see a strong consensus in GD but here we are about 99% no. Not without reason. If he rolls the tractor and smashes himself flat are you liable ?
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:18:43 PM EST
[#17]
If I lend out anything (be it money, tools or equipment). I expect to never get it back. Period. I don't tell the borrower that but then I don't have hard feelings regardless of the outcome.
Food for thought though... A friend lent out a skid loader and after a mishap by the borrower it was totalled and engine ruined. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:38:12 PM EST
[#18]
Really you should have said no thanks when he pitched it you.
Don't over explain your reasons. He will counter every thing. Just say I don't want to. And don't lend it out. Don't help him find a used tractor. It will be your problem when it craps out. "They are building a home and have a lot of expenses when it comes to a property this large." Yeah they are not putting out thousands of dollars if they break something. Besides what to stop him from thinking it cost to much and isn't worth fixing? I know people help one another, but clearing a lot of land, stumps, or what ever, you become free labor. Helping clearing a tree down across their driveway from bad weather is helping, and using your equipment to do the hard work clearing their land isn't the same thing. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:44:31 PM EST
[#19]
I would in the nicest way possible decline to do that. Machinery is expensive to repair and if not operated properly and maintained will break down. Then you have to try to work out the cost of the repair. It sounds like he will get the most use out of the tractor yet you still will be sharing the cost of everything. Nothing good will likely come out of that arrangement.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:50:34 PM EST
[#20]
One more "hell no". At least 99% chance it will be nothing but problems, resentments, and disappointed expectations. And land clearing can be one of the hardest things on your tractor.
Since it's family, and if you're concerned about being perceived as a dick for saying no, just print out this thread and show it to them when you decline. Or email them the thread URL. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:18:28 AM EST
[#21]
Hell to the no.
Besides, there are better pieces of equipment for land clearing than tractors. Rental place will rent him appropriate equipment. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:18:52 AM EST
[#22]
I borrow my buddies tractor, and I say no way!
I have a little tractor, I needed a big tractor to pull logs in the winter 1 time. He came with big tractor and worked with me for a day. I bought him a case of beer. 2nd time, used his medium tractor with the winch his brother owns - his brother came and ran the tractor (this was a few years later). Gave his brother case of beer. 3rd time, also in the winter, I think they decided skidding logs in winter sucked, they dropped off tractor and winch. I used it for a 2 days, left $100 in the tool box. It made me nervous the whole time. I will probably borrow it again next year, but I don't like it, I make sure almost nothing can happen that will break anything, and I know in my head I will pay if anything gets broken. The 3 times I have asked in the last 15 years, every tree I am cutting is down before the tractor is there, and its just there to skid logs, which should be almost foolproof. Until its not. Then you lose money or friends or a tractor, or all of it. I wouldn't loan a chainsaw either. Ask, and I will come do the work for or with you, and chainsaws are cheap to replace, but not something to loan. Have them buy one, and help if larger is needed. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:22:02 AM EST
[#23]
Just explain your concerns and work out the details.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:23:14 AM EST
[#24]
Rent it to him?
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:07:32 AM EST
[#25]
Sell your tractor. You said you barely use it. Sell it to a third party. Don't discuss it with family first. Rent one when you need one. Problem solved.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:09:41 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rent it to him? Problem there is the problem with all of these ideas. Eventually the relative is going to break it. Will he have the money to fix it, properly, right then? Will he admit to having the money, or will it be constant excuses and then the family is pressuring him to "let it go, what's the big deal?"? They seem to need to use it pretty heavily in the near future. This is a tractor he doesn't use much himself. Doesn't make sense to put that much use on the thing, even if they don't break it by some miracle. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:10:53 AM EST
[#27]
Nope. Bad idea.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:12:14 AM EST
[#28]
Fuck NO!!!!!
What kind of crack have you been smoking ? |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:21:56 AM EST
[#29]
Nope.
I would be wary of lending it to him, too. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:05:05 AM EST
[#30]
Never share ownership in a chainsaw, a tractor, a gun, or a woman.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:06:15 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only that but hell fuckin no |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:07:29 AM EST
[#32]
Will they treat it as good as you do ?
Probably not. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:10:23 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If he kills himself on your tractor, how does that work out? Because I had to remove all my kayaks from my beach rental house due to liability. I’d absolutely decline for this very reason.  |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:20:39 AM EST
[#34]
Listen to the first reply. If not, you will have a situation like his avatar
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:23:14 AM EST
[#35]
YES. Definitely do this.
I'm just thinking of the epic future thread about the tractor and the family member we'll get  In all seriousness, FUCK NO. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:27:58 AM EST
[#36]
Clearing land? As in tree branches that can, and will most likely punch a hole in your $500 radiator, fence posts that will destroy your tires and debris falling out of the bucket, smashing your 3000.00 hood?
I'd rethink that one. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:35:29 AM EST
[#37]
This is a worse idea than that one guy that was trying to pound the homeless welder’s asshole.
Buy him and shovel and tell him to kick rocks. I’d have them trespassed from my land, erect a large fence and cut all contact. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:44:38 AM EST
[#38]
Nope, nope, nope.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:45:13 AM EST
[#39]
If by clearing land you mean removing trees/stumps, no, they will kill your tractor. If they want to do some minor grading, bush hog, they can pay you to do it.
Otherwise, they need to rent a machine designed for that type of work. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:47:13 AM EST
[#40]
I would rent it to them hourly before I shared it.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 7:58:04 AM EST
[#41]
If you are willing to sell them the tractor for half price and you end up doing maintenance and possibly repairs, then say yes. That’s essentially what you are doing if they are doing the majority of the work with the tractor. Think of it as you renting the tractor with an unlimited timeline for the money they pay.
It has low hours due to your workload. Their workload will add a lot more hours, more wear and possible damage that would not have happened under your sole ownership. Are they already very competent with a tractor? If not the learning curve will add more wear. Is the work they are planning appropriate for the tractor or is it slightly too small for the work? If so expect a lot more wear and damage. One person always loses when something is “split”. Especially when it is on a verbal agreement as both sides have different expectations of what actually the agreement is. If it’s a no then explain to them that sharing it would cause a strain on you relationship due to the issues it’s going to cause. That the machine is not appropriate for what they want to do based upon their workload. That you planned on the lifetime of the tractor based upon your workload and that sharing it would change that life. Explain you would let them borrow the implements and maybe even offer to use your tractor with their tractor at certain points to help them if needed. Good luck. The fact that they even brought this up, to me, shows they will be butthurt when you say no. I would never ask to share something of value with a relative. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:01:19 AM EST
[#42]
I loaned my tractor to a family member once and ended up with a bent up bucket and bale spears. Never again.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:01:27 AM EST
[#43]
Just become his contractor for when he needs something done, what your time and machinery is worthy. let him know and he can hire you until they purchase their own.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:05:00 AM EST
[#44]
Hell no...
Tell them either to hire someone for the land clearing or rent a tractor for the big jobs. This will not work out well for you. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:06:10 AM EST
[#45]
Nope, if they have to clear land, and get it house ready etc., they are going to use the shit out of it.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:06:28 AM EST
[#46]
I'd rather share my wife. And I'm not doing that.
An implement for a day? Maybe. If they're in a pinch, I'd come over and run my own tractor for them for a few hours. But they need to get their own tractor. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:06:50 AM EST
[#47]
Just charge him to mow his place. Just enough to break even as it’s family.
Someone is going to tear something up and the other won’t want to pay for it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:08:26 AM EST
[#48]
Yeah you have to have a helluva good relationship with someone to make that work.......so “no”.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:10:34 AM EST
[#49]
I don't borrow shit and I don't lend shit to people.
I will help people. Once if it turns to shit show and I learn something from their actions. Its a great policy |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:11:50 AM EST
[#50]
You're already at a disadvantage in this situation. If you say "no", it may cause a rift. If you say yes, you may end up the one that's butt hurt. Tough situation OP. I would retain full control and help them do the task if there's time or let them borrow it until they buy their own.
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