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Posted: 1/28/2021 5:46:35 PM EST
[#1]
And I just thought they were just reading my posts and listening to my conversations.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 5:51:26 PM EST
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Posted: 1/28/2021 5:56:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what percentage of statistics are made up on the spot? 87% |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 5:58:00 PM EST
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Quoted: Warning for those who use the Signal app. The recent National Terror Threat Warning released by the Fed comes from them analyzing comms of the Signal app. Yes, the Fed can look inside all that "weak" encrypted stuff! Got a link with that info? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:00:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah yes, the not so elusive 2021 poster with their first post being some fear/panic crap. Please go away, we're full on what you're selling around here. so says the '20'er |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:09:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. If it's digital using the internet, it's like cutting soft butter with a hot knife for the Fed ! If you don't want to be spied on, gotta get off the internet. Go on then, GIT 
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:12:08 PM EST
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This sounds a lot like the guy posting early on in the covid thread about protein spikes and vitamin D dumps killing your kidneys or some such.
And vaguely constructed like the Sasquatch and llama thread. Nothing is secure in your conversations and plans. Bank on that. Keep your close group small, your info brief and don’t tell EVERY damn thing you know to people you DON’T know. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:12:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 87% Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: what percentage of statistics are made up on the spot? 87% THANK YOU |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:14:09 PM EST
[#9]
Obvious FBI man is obvious.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:19:41 PM EST
[#10]
It's almost certainly info gathered from point-of-use attacks (i.e. they either are in possession of, or bugging*, the phone someone is sending Signal-encrypted messages/calls to), rather than "FBI Surveillance Person #54356261" decrypting Signal transmissions in real/near-real time.
The encryption is sound....it's the tradecraft (or lack thereof) that makes the traffic vulnerable. *-in this case, "bugging" includes them loading (or tricking you into loading) malware onto your phone that lets them read in/listen in to all your traffic and activities. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:23:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No worries, keep watching Unsolved Mysteries.  A year ago Google's qubit platform solved a 10,000yr problem in 3min ! The fastest best supercomputer vs Google qubit. You believe Google is ahead of the govt in computing? I will bet ya the govt is about 100-1000 better than anything Google has made public (just a hunch, wink wink). Just saying the obvious. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/67738/google-quantum-computer-solves-issue-3-minutes-versus-10-000-years/index.html Your info is about high bit count public key encryption, using the factorization of large numbers, it's not about true symmetric private key encryption. You still need to securely share the private key, so there is a systemic vulnerability, but if you share it via secure methods AES is still impractical to brute force and it gets exponentially worse as the key length increases. Barring a flaw in the algo it's still a problem. Which is why they probably don't bother trying, there are easier ways. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:31:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Using a old phone that still works on the cell systems, is a good choice. Chuck Schumer uses an old flip phone. ;) Old phones don't protect you from Fed eavesdropping on your calls, but the phone is limited for the Fed, etc. They don't like people who use old phones. Dinosaurs use old tech. News at 11:00 Any cell connection can be located and track by the towers it's pinging from latest iPhone or a Jitterbug |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:32:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not paying attention to what's going on. Millions of people have abandoned WhatsApp (for many reasons) and jumping to Signal. The Fed gave no info on how they obtained such data that warranted their Nat Terror warning. I not 100% what you are asking. The Fed basically taps backbone lines and can scrub that data very very fast. Abilene (internet-2) is magnitudes faster than your everyday internet. ;) The datacenter in Utah is full of qubit computing! More people of flocked to Telegram than Signal. Why not mention that one? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:50:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Using a old phone that still works on the cell systems, is a good choice. Chuck Schumer uses an old flip phone. ;) Old phones don't protect you from Fed eavesdropping on your calls, but the phone is limited for the Fed, etc. They don't like people who use old phones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_phone_tracker https://oaklandmofo.com/blog/block-stringray-devices |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 6:59:31 PM EST
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Not worried. All me and the boys really discuss are helicopter models, useful load, weight and balance and how much does the average communist weigh. Innocent, fun loving, red blooded American stuff like that.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:05:05 PM EST
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Took 4 pages for someone to post this, freaking slackers! |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:38:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All me and the boys really discuss are helicopter models, useful load, weight and balance and how much does the average communist weigh. Innocent, fun loving, red blooded American stuff like that.  |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:42:22 PM EST
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Over 14k now, glow patrol Night Shift ACTIVATE
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:46:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All me and the boys really discuss are helicopter models, useful load, weight and balance and how much does the average communist weigh. Innocent, fun loving, red blooded American stuff like that. The Hind is an obvious top choice. It’s communist bloc so it puts communists at ease when they first see it. Also you can fit a bunch of communists in the back. A true party bus. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:50:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:The encryption available to the public is no match for the Fed. Are you saying there's different AES (Rijndael) algorithms for us and others for them?  Because it's openly published. 
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:54:26 PM EST
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Quoted: Warning for those who use the Signal app. The recent National Terror Threat Warning released by the Fed comes from them analyzing comms of the Signal app. Yes, the Fed can look inside all that "weak" encrypted stuff! How do you know this to be true? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:56:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I just thought they were just reading my posts and listening to my conversations. no that's Google, Gmail, Chrome and Firefox. Brave, DuckDuckGo and VPN and you wont have that problem. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 7:58:42 PM EST
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If you're not using three orthogonal encryption schemes and a one time pad, you're fucked. Ceiling cat is tired of watching you masturbate and gave them copies of your pads.
Kharn |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 8:03:35 PM EST
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Is it against the rules if I directly call out the OP as either (a) Disinformation troll or (b) A dumbass?
Because it’s one or the other. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 8:07:02 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not using three orthogonal encryption schemes and a one time pad, you're fucked. Ceiling cat is tired of watching you masturbate and gave them copies of your pads. Kharn Joke’s on everyone: my encryption is so secure even I don’t know what it is. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 8:19:05 PM EST
[#26]
Welcome friend and fellow enthusiast. I take great pleasure in welcoming you to our great 2nd amendment themed site. It is here where you can share your knowledge of firearms, ammunition, training, survival, culinary, and general life skills. This site consists of people from all walks of life: doctors, lawyers, cops,writers, race car guys, pilots, firearm instructors, dentists, TV personalities, teachers, firemen, military, retirees, lawmakers, porn stars, Kia mechanics and Trolls.
So please accept my warm wishes, bountiful blessings and happy thoughts. Enjoy your stay, share your wisdom and take some wisdom with you. Sincerely, your brother in arms |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 8:57:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welcome friend and fellow enthusiast. I take great pleasure in welcoming you to our great 2nd amendment themed site. It is here where you can share your knowledge of firearms, ammunition, training, survival, culinary, and general life skills. This site consists of people from all walks of life: doctors, lawyers, cops,writers, race car guys, pilots, firearm instructors, dentists, TV personalities, teachers, firemen, military, retirees, lawmakers, porn stars, Kia mechanics and Trolls. So please accept my warm wishes, bountiful blessings and happy thoughts. Enjoy your stay, share your wisdom and take some wisdom with you. Sincerely, your brother in arms 10/10 |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 8:59:06 PM EST
[#28]
I just use signal to BS about trannies. I think I'll be alright.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:05:22 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, but good symmetric encryption is a million year problem. So with Quantum computing its a 10,000 year problem. Your info is about high bit count public key encryption, using the factorization of large numbers, it's not about true symmetric private key encryption. You still need to securely share the private key, so there is a systemic vulnerability, but if you share it via secure methods AES is still impractical to brute force and it gets exponentially worse as the key length increases. Barring a flaw in the algo it's still a problem. Which is why they probably don't bother trying, there are easier ways.  Attached FileThis isn't going to be popular, this this is factually accurate because math. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:13:35 PM EST
[#30]
They can get anything if they can access your device.
Buddy told me Polish Gov hasn't been able to crack Signal. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:35:48 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you saying there's different AES (Rijndael) algorithms for us and others for them? Because it's openly published. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:The encryption available to the public is no match for the Fed. Are you saying there's different AES (Rijndael) algorithms for us and others for them? Because it's openly published. Good thing I only use Chacha20 
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:37:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy told me Polish Gov hasn't been able to crack Signal. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:45:38 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A year ago, took 3min to solve a 10,000yr problem. Google is better than the govt? You make people laugh, but that's a good thing, you are not the one they worry about. Why do people here get all worked up when this type of chatter hits the screen? Non-native english speaker. Going with slav. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:52:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To move lots of data real fast , use internet-2 (you can't use internet-2 btw). To scrub and chomp on data real fast, use qubit computing (crypto miners know about this, so why not you?) Back doors for the Fed are passe, there's no need to back door into any one device. They can collect all the data and then easily cherry pick out the data streams of interest, and then feed that to the qubit scrubbers, which can decrypt very fast! The Fed can also catalog all internet traffic, and archive it. Storage space is no issue. The internet as you know it is limited in ability to transmit data, it can only produce so much data for any given time period, and the Fed can easily take it all in. Would you be interested in sharing some of those drugs? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:01:17 PM EST
[#35]
I didn't know so I went looking, the internet generates 3k terabytes of traffic a MINUTE.
 Lots can probably be filtered pretty quickly and not analyzed but even if 5% is stored for later....thats a fucking lot of data. beer in hand napkin math says...about 22k terabytes a day. No way thats on spinning rust. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:03:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't know so I went looking, the internet generates 3k terabytes of traffic a MINUTE. Lots can probably be filtered pretty quickly and not analyzed but even if 5% is stored for later....thats a fucking lot of data. beer in hand napkin math says...about 22k terabytes a day. No way thats on spinning rust. That strikes me as low. Where did you find that stat? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:07:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That strikes me as low. Where did you find that stat? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I didn't know so I went looking, the internet generates 3k terabytes of traffic a MINUTE. Lots can probably be filtered pretty quickly and not analyzed but even if 5% is stored for later....thats a fucking lot of data. beer in hand napkin math says...about 22k terabytes a day. No way thats on spinning rust. That strikes me as low. Where did you find that stat? Suggestion: remove porn traffic. Probably a much more manageable percentage now, isn’t it?  (But srsly, probably you can automatically remove a significant percentage of web traffic from YouTube, Netflix, etc., and porn, and eComm...
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:09:01 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That strikes me as low. Where did you find that stat? 3,000 terabytes a minute seems low...OK. I don't really have a frame of reference to sanity check it. Might be old data. Still that's just a fuck ton of data, i question the technology able to store even 5% of it, can't be any traditional drive(s). Are there some crazy storage array technologies out there? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:10:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suggestion: remove porn traffic. Probably a much more manageable percentage now, isn't it? (But srsly, probably you can automatically remove a significant percentage of web traffic from YouTube, Netflix, etc., and porn, and eComm...That still leaves you with 22,000 terabytes a day. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:22:40 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Hind is an obvious top choice. It's communist bloc so it puts communists at ease when they first see it. Also you can fit a bunch of communists in the back. A true party bus. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: All me and the boys really discuss are helicopter models, useful load, weight and balance and how much does the average communist weigh. Innocent, fun loving, red blooded American stuff like that. The Hind is an obvious top choice. It's communist bloc so it puts communists at ease when they first see it. Also you can fit a bunch of communists in the back. A true party bus.  See? I really do pay attention to what people post.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:44:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: second? result on duck duck go... 3,000 terabytes a minute seems low...OK. I don't really have a frame of reference to sanity check it. Might be old data. Still that's just a fuck ton of data, i question the technology able to store even 5% of it, can't be any traditional drive(s). Are there some crazy storage array technologies out there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That strikes me as low. Where did you find that stat? 3,000 terabytes a minute seems low...OK. I don't really have a frame of reference to sanity check it. Might be old data. Still that's just a fuck ton of data, i question the technology able to store even 5% of it, can't be any traditional drive(s). Are there some crazy storage array technologies out there? It isn't really material, but that feels low to me too. A minute of 4k video is about 375 mb. So 3000 terabytes is only about eight million people worldwide streaming 4k video at the same time. That's only about 4% of Netflix's worldwide subscribers. And that's excluding all other internet traffic. The key point though, as you mentioned, is that the internet has a fucking lot of data. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:59:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/WXZEAZk-635.gif This isn't going to be popular, this this is factually accurate because math. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, but good symmetric encryption is a million year problem. So with Quantum computing its a 10,000 year problem. Your info is about high bit count public key encryption, using the factorization of large numbers, it's not about true symmetric private key encryption. You still need to securely share the private key, so there is a systemic vulnerability, but if you share it via secure methods AES is still impractical to brute force and it gets exponentially worse as the key length increases. Barring a flaw in the algo it's still a problem. Which is why they probably don't bother trying, there are easier ways. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/WXZEAZk-635.gif This isn't going to be popular, this this is factually accurate because math. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:06:20 PM EST
[#43]
The chair is against John's moustache.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:11:08 PM EST
[#44]
Use words that trigger in your next message. You know stuff like Jihad, nuclear, dirty bomb, sarin, sniper , fish sticks, ied , iud, abortion, safe house, Atf, and others .
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:17:01 PM EST
[#45]
Okay.
But it seems to me that general traffic analysis would result in some meaningful data without any ability to see the conversation. Why do you think that's not the deal in this case? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:46:04 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm getting a Bullet_Sponge vibe from him.....definitely a glowie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You were doing so well, until you typed out this sentence. ROLCON. Believe nothing OP says, this entire Not saying Signal is secure, either. A "psyop"? That alone is fairly telling. Nobody said to not use encryption. Feel free to highlight that if they did. NorCal_LEO? Using LEO resources again? 33 posts here and you know that norcal is NorCal_LEO - so what was your last screen name? I called it on page 1. There's only 3 kinds of people that will tell you to not use encryption: cops, feds, and literal retards. OP is 2 out of 3. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:47:18 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, you do you boo. I've been in the IT Security field a while, and if you think its secure, you keep doing your own thing... Here's a good comparison list though. You make your own decisions: https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's not wrong. Signal / Telegram were subverted long ago. citation needed. I've been in the IT Security field a while, and if you think its secure, you keep doing your own thing... Here's a good comparison list though. You make your own decisions: https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ IT man doesn’t make link hot.... Minus 5 points |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:55:58 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Non-native english speaker. Going with slav. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A year ago, took 3min to solve a 10,000yr problem. Google is better than the govt? You make people laugh, but that's a good thing, you are not the one they worry about. Why do people here get all worked up when this type of chatter hits the screen? Non-native english speaker. Going with slav. Nice catch. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:58:55 PM EST
[#49]
why does anyone think that these "secure" messaging apps are even secure?? NSA, CIA and others have 100 percent access to them.. heck they prob even fund the apps.
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Posted: 1/29/2021 12:00:10 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: why does anyone think that these "secure" messaging apps are even secure?? NSA, CIA and others have 100 percent access to them.. heck they prob even fund the apps. Signal is open source. Anyone and everyone has access to the code. You do too. Go take a look. https://github.com/signalapp |
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