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Posted: 6/12/2018 7:39:41 PM EST
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Anyone seen any dies for loading this cartridge?
I have my name down for a barrel, when available. I have 100 rounds of Wolf. With "basic" brass, it should be a matter of a pass thru a FL die and trim to length. I need to pull and measure a bullet or 2. If the bullet diameter of .364 is correct, it should be easy to take .366 bullets and run them through a .364 sizer die (Lee will custom order for $38). Midway has some blem .366", 286 gr. bullets on sale for $.42 ea. Not cheap, but not too bad. .366", 286 gr Not sure if that will work with OAL, but might be worth a try. Could be a fun project. |
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Posted: 6/12/2018 11:18:18 PM EST
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Anyone seen any dies for loading this cartridge? I have my name down for a barrel, when available. I have 100 rounds of Wolf. With "basic" brass, it should be a matter of a pass thru a FL die and trim to length. I need to pull and measure a bullet or 2. If the bullet diameter of .364 is correct, it should be easy to take .366 bullets and run them through a .364 sizer die (Lee will custom order for $38). Midway has some blem .366", 286 gr. bullets on sale for $.42 ea. Not cheap, but not too bad. .366", 286 gr Not sure if that will work with OAL, but might be worth a try. Could be a fun project. Supersonic ammo shouldn't be too hard to make yourself, but will the twist rate support that? |
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Posted: 6/21/2018 9:49:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you tried 6.5 grendel mags? |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 8:43:23 PM EST
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Can anybody compare the ballistics of the 9x39 to 338 Spectre?
I wonder in the Longniz (so?) Universal Magazines would work? If they handle the steep taper of 7.62x39 and the 458 SOCOM I'd be a bit surprised if they didn't. Also, we NEED AK barrels, bolts, and mags for these. |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 8:55:44 PM EST
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Oh fuck no. I want a goddamned Vintorez, is what I want. I would definitely spring for the funky caliber if someone would import, or domestically produce a Vintorez (and not a shitty one). |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 10:59:28 PM EST
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This. I would definitely spring for the funky caliber if someone would import, or domestically produce a Vintorez (and not a shitty one). |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 10:03:55 PM EST
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What is the status of the barrels?
@rinfanti |
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Posted: 7/2/2018 6:12:14 PM EST
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Then you're probably best off coming back to this thread in 2021 at the earliest. We're looking at 2019 realistically to get a 9x39 AR barrel, more than a single 20-round box of ammo at $1/round, and any idea on what magazine is really needed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This. I would definitely spring for the funky caliber if someone would import, or domestically produce a Vintorez (and not a shitty one). 
Um........ what? I know of a guy who owns a gun parts company who is getting 9x39 barrels right now. He has posted in this thread. I also know of a place I got some ammo for significantly less than a buck a round. All of which was posted in this thread. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:48:32 AM EST
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Updates:
I was told we should get prototype 9x39 magazines in two weeks. Stay tuned. As soon as we get one and it works we will film and release a full auto mag dump video. ( saving my lunch money for theses  ...)
I talked to a second source for ammunition who is also importing 9x39 ball ammo. No pricing or delivery dates were given. We will be release pricing on the 9x39 non suppressed upper and rifle next week. The will be ready to ship next week also. Next week we have two magazine reviews scheduled. Finally: Everyone who ordered a barrel should have gotten an update from me. If you did not please PM or email. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 4:16:23 PM EST
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Awesome
@rinfanti what's your website? |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 7:38:03 PM EST
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Awesome
@rinfanti what's your website? They don't have any info up on the 9x39 from what I tried to find at least |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 9:25:57 PM EST
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Ralph, cam you share the specs on the barrels you have?
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Posted: 7/20/2018 5:42:19 PM EST
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Our Website is Piedmontcartridge.com There is very little information up there about 9x39. Waiting until we announce everything to dealers in a week or so. Anyone who ends and email to [email protected] and asks will get a sales sheet emailed to them.
The Barrels are 1:7 CrmOV with 5/8 - 24 thread. 8", 10" and 16" The gas port is a custom length. So if you order a barrel we need to sell you a custom tube. Everyone who has already purchased a barrel will get a tube for free. We finalized the pricing on a complete upper and wanted to give everyone here the first shot: •10" or 16" barrel , 7/1 twist, 5/8-24 threading •Nickle boron bolt •Flattop upper with Continuous rail •Scalloped enhanced M-LOC hand guard •Standard changing handle •Custom Gas System with inconel gas tube •9x39 Vintorez Rail Badge •All US manufactured parts •No muzzle break or flash hider ( no eta on the arrival from the MFG) •Wholesale: $ 797.54 delivered You have to email us to get this deal. We are waiting on the next set of barrels to arrive. It should be next week. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 7:08:32 PM EST
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Our Website is Piedmontcartridge.com There is very little information up there about 9x39. Waiting until we announce everything to dealers in a week or so. Anyone who ends and email to [email protected] and asks will get a sales sheet emailed to them. The Barrels are 1:7 CrmOV with 5/8 - 24 thread. 8", 10" and 16" The gas port is a custom length. So if you order a barrel we need to sell you a custom tube. Everyone who has already purchased a barrel will get a tube for free. We finalized the pricing on a complete upper and wanted to give everyone here the first shot: •10" or 16" barrel , 7/1 twist, 5/8-24 threading •Nickle boron bolt •Flattop upper with Continuous rail •Scalloped enhanced M-LOC hand guard •Standard changing handle •Custom Gas System with inconel gas tube •9x39 Vintorez Rail Badge •All US manufactured parts •No muzzle break or flash hider ( no eta on the arrival from the MFG) •Wholesale: $ 797.54 delivered You have to email us to get this deal. We are waiting on the next set of barrels to arrive. It should be next week. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~ I'm giddy thinking about it. Any word on how many rounds the magazine might hold? I am, of course, going to test out every manufacturer's oddball caliber mags myself too. I was thinking that the 7.62x39 follower in either a grendel or 5.45 magazine might be just the ticket. |
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:34:55 AM EST
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Checking in for updates.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:36:38 AM EST
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Anybody coming up with an AK type yet? seems sacrilege to chamber an AR in this caliber
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Posted: 7/25/2018 12:52:17 AM EST
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I’d fo for a AK barrel
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Posted: 7/30/2018 4:59:20 PM EST
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It will be a few months for production AK barrels in 9x39.
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Posted: 8/6/2018 9:38:20 AM EST
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What's the latest on ammo availability?
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Posted: 8/6/2018 10:40:20 PM EST
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So what's the conclusion on the type of mags 9x39 uppers will use? I'm in Florida which is likely gonna get a high capacity ban before the 9x39 rifles are here, so I need to stock up on the right type of magazine before that happens. If it's AR mags, will a regular Pmag work or do I need one of those funky ASC mags?
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Posted: 8/7/2018 9:30:32 AM EST
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So what's the conclusion on the type of mags 9x39 uppers will use? I'm in Florida which is likely gonna get a high capacity ban before the 9x39 rifles are here, so I need to stock up on the right type of magazine before that happens. If it's AR mags, will a regular Pmag work or do I need one of those funky ASC mags? My money still rests on 6.5 grendel mags. VSS/AS VAL/SR-3/etc mags are all relatively straight with a similar curve to them. Case wise 9x39 is ~ .421 inches vs 6.5G at .432 before it bottlenecks down so I doubt 9 thousandths of an inch are going to make a difference (7.62x39 is .394 FWIW) VSS/AS VAL 
6.5 Grendel 
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Posted: 8/8/2018 8:55:45 AM EST
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The Uni-mag will hold 14 rounds without a problem.
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Posted: 8/8/2018 9:28:40 AM EST
[#23]
Is more Ammo coming in?
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Posted: 8/8/2018 4:12:34 PM EST
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I just joined the .300 Blackout ranks on Monday when I picked up a Sig MCX Hybrid in .300 Blackout. It's brace folds to a very compact package.
So my interest is really piqued with this 9X39 cartridge. The Wolf ammo SHOT show video says a 278 grain bullet. I am wondering if anybody is going to make a supersonic bullet for it. I cast and I have MiHec moulds which can produce hollow points. A 250 grainish hollow point cast .366" boolit traveling right at 1,000 fps could look impressive if shot into gel...I would think.
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Posted: 8/8/2018 4:46:35 PM EST
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Our Website is Piedmontcartridge.com There is very little information up there about 9x39. Waiting until we announce everything to dealers in a week or so. Anyone who ends and email to [email protected] and asks will get a sales sheet emailed to them. The Barrels are 1:7 CrmOV with 5/8 - 24 thread. 8", 10" and 16" The gas port is a custom length. So if you order a barrel we need to sell you a custom tube. Everyone who has already purchased a barrel will get a tube for free. We finalized the pricing on a complete upper and wanted to give everyone here the first shot: •10" or 16" barrel , 7/1 twist, 5/8-24 threading •Nickle boron bolt •Flattop upper with Continuous rail •Scalloped enhanced M-LOC hand guard •Standard changing handle •Custom Gas System with inconel gas tube •9x39 Vintorez Rail Badge •All US manufactured parts •No muzzle break or flash hider ( no eta on the arrival from the MFG) •Wholesale: $ 797.54 delivered You have to email us to get this deal. We are waiting on the next set of barrels to arrive. It should be next week. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~ Also are Inconel gas tubes available in carbine length? |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:15:05 PM EST
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Anybody coming up with an AK type yet? seems sacrilege to chamber an AR in this caliber in 9x39mm. 9x39mm ammo is on the cover, so will be easy to spot. |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:15:44 PM EST
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What's the latest on ammo availability? http://ammunitionstore.com/products/9x39-wolf-ammo-278gr-fmj-wolf-performance-20-round-box.html |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:18:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tried them in a 20 round 7.62x39 ASC mag, only could fit 12 rounds in it and they were a bit of a bitch to get out but it may work fine if you downloaded to say 10. As for a 20 round 5.56 PMAG, got 3 or 4 in and it bulged out the sides of the mag by like about an eighth of an inch on each side. Definitely not gonna work My money still rests on 6.5 grendel mags. VSS/AS VAL/SR-3/etc mags are all relatively straight with a similar curve to them. Case wise 9x39 is ~ .421 inches vs 6.5G at .432 before it bottlenecks down so I doubt 9 thousandths of an inch are going to make a difference (7.62x39 is .394 FWIW) VSS/AS VAL http://i.imgur.com/QNH9729.jpg 6.5 Grendel https://www.shopalexanderarms.com/img-E-Lander_6.5_Grendel_17-round_magazine.jpg 5.56mm mags WILL NOT WORK.....so don't even think about it. I have been running the ARs in for testing using 7.62x39mm ASC mags with up to 20 rounds in them. They are not ideal. What is truly needed is a proper dedicated mag. Period. Folks are working on them. |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:18:43 PM EST
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Is more Ammo coming in? |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:19:34 PM EST
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I just joined the .300 Blackout ranks on Monday when I picked up a Sig MCX Hybrid in .300 Blackout. It's brace folds to a very compact package.
So my interest is really piqued with this 9X39 cartridge. The Wolf ammo SHOT show video says a 278 grain bullet. I am wondering if anybody is going to make a supersonic bullet for it. I cast and I have MiHec moulds which can produce hollow points. A 250 grainish hollow point cast .366" boolit traveling right at 1,000 fps could look impressive if shot into gel...I would think. |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:23:00 PM EST
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:24:07 PM EST
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Oh fuck no. I want a goddamned Vintorez, is what I want. |
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:58:51 PM EST
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Posted: 8/10/2018 11:30:15 AM EST
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Who's got $100 for a legit VSS mag? definitely would help if someone in here is secretly building a clone
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Posted: 9/1/2018 9:19:26 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_8jfMBMtVw
Here's something I saw that makes the wait a lot harder. But at least it gave me a cool idea for an AK9. Just need an AK103 or a 104, a 9x39 barrel, and magazines that will work (oh boy). Can't wait for this cartridge to be out in the wild and have stuff chambered for it. |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 7:17:24 PM EST
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So much build up and hype then... pfft. I was all set to be an early adopter but haven't seen much other than a busted open box of ammo. No websites have info, as of now, and 8+ months is a long time in the modern world. I've moved on to a Mk12 Mod H build and may revisit the 9x at a later date.
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Posted: 9/13/2018 1:52:38 PM EST
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Posted: 9/13/2018 2:40:26 PM EST
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That is badass
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Posted: 9/17/2018 7:52:13 PM EST
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Here's Todd Jaderborg firing a 9x39mm AR at 400 yards...
 Odins Wolf Survival shooting the 9 x39 at 400 yards |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 7:41:52 PM EST
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Posted: 9/22/2018 7:55:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't wait to see these. I wonder if the Krebs wizardy could convert an AK103 to a 9x39 AK104 Krebs has a bolt gun up and running too......bet that is uber quiet...... |
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Posted: 9/22/2018 10:05:28 PM EST
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there's some magic in the gas port location, but it would be very cool. Krebs has a bolt gun up and running too......bet that is uber quiet...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Can't wait to see these. I wonder if the Krebs wizardy could convert an AK103 to a 9x39 AK104 Krebs has a bolt gun up and running too......bet that is uber quiet...... 
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Posted: 10/1/2018 3:58:33 PM EST
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Updates: the rest of the 9x39 barrels are in transit to my shop along with the correct length gas tubes. FINALLY!
For all of you who have ordered barrels they will ship out this week with the correct gas tubes. We still have a few extra 8", 12" and 16" barrels if anyone wants one please give us a call. We will also be doing demos of the 9x39 Integral suppressed AR and the 9x39 Suppressed AK this weekend at the IV8888 Media day. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:11:18 AM EST
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In case no one saw this:
https://www.facebook.com/iraqveteran8888official/videos/302547343901931/ Naturally we managed to video one of the few mis-feeds. However the weapon had over 2K rounds put through it with out a cleaning over the two days. Ralph ~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:26:04 AM EST
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That gun needs a video of it's own where no one else is shooting around it. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 5:05:27 PM EST
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In case no one saw this: https://www.facebook.com/iraqveteran8888official/videos/302547343901931/ Naturally we managed to video one of the few mis-feeds. However the weapon had over 2K rounds put through it with out a cleaning over the two days. Ralph ~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 10/9/2018 2:07:00 PM EST
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Im hooked, looks great, cant wait for an ak style rifle/pistol in this caliber
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Posted: 10/12/2018 7:57:45 AM EST
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For everyone who ordered barrels I finally have the gas tubes. I am shipping the barrels with the gas tubes today.
Sorry for the delay. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 8:06:34 AM EST
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For everyone who ordered barrels I finally have the gas tubes. I am shipping the barrels with the gas tubes today. Sorry for the delay. Ralph ~~~~~~~~~~ $295 includes both the barrel and gas tube right? Still have any left? |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 8:16:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ugh........ Can anyone do a Full30 or Youtube of this? |
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