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I was way late to your thread last year, but in early this year! Looks great so far. One question... You have a big box store close to you that you get supplies from? If so can you let us know what it is? ETA: Did a quick seach on Powell and it looks like no Lowes or Home Depot, but I see an ACE. |
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NASA's Graphics Standards Manual: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nasa_graphics_manual_nhb_1430-2_jan_1976.pdf?linkId=16902171 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thank you! She found the "NASA" font online yesterday and I think she was able to download it on her laptop, but if that didn't work, I'll let her know about helvecta. She is working on the first of three final designs. NASA's Graphics Standards Manual: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nasa_graphics_manual_nhb_1430-2_jan_1976.pdf?linkId=16902171 Its not Helvecta. It's Helvetica. Very common font on lots of stuff. Should already be on your computers. Also, guns, there's no way you should have work pausing for lack of a single tape measure or flat head screwdriver. I know you don't want this to be a big charity case, but if you would post a tool list, we could do a lot of damage at various Harbor Freights and send you some great stuff. I think you also need some more 20v DeWalt tools to go with that saw... |
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I love #1 just for the silliness, but if I could have just one, it would be #2, which is closest to how you'll display it. Thanks for giving a shoutout to the folks @ Rockwell. If you could find a Rockwell retirees forum I bet you could fund your next 3 projects. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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T shirt designs We have 3 designs right now. We can modify them if we need to. We are hoping to offer all three. Nothing is set in stone, but here is what we are thinking: Design 1= Flight Operations front https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7566/29528884264_2b0cf8098f.jpg back https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5032/29528884254_5c653dfc2c.jpg Design 2= Shuttle Crew front https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5056/29528884324_f8dfbfebbe.jpg back https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5664/29528884424_b159255da8.jpg Design 3= Shuttle Command front https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5745/29528884434_611df8cfe8.jpg back https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5091/29528884204_1cb86c4fda.jpg I love #1 just for the silliness, but if I could have just one, it would be #2, which is closest to how you'll display it. Thanks for giving a shoutout to the folks @ Rockwell. If you could find a Rockwell retirees forum I bet you could fund your next 3 projects. Agreed. I missed the thread until now, glad it looks to have a lot of work left. Any plans for taxidermy this year? If I get a deer with my bow and anyone's willing to do the work, I'd be willing to pay for my form, shipping and 2-3 more for other class members just to be a part of it. |
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Guns, you have a PM on your blocked arf.com issue. I was way late to your thread last year, but in early this year! Looks great so far. One question... You have a big box store close to you that you get supplies from? If so can you let us know what it is? ETA: Did a quick seach on Powell and it looks like no Lowes or Home Depot, but I see an ACE. View Quote We do have an Ace store, and a Big R store. |
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Question: Are you using the 18 ga Bostitch Air Stapler/nailer to connect the spars together, as well as the sheeting onto the skeleton? Brads or staples? Wondering which you are using, and if there's a special type (stainless, elctro-galvanized gold, dip galvanized silver, etc). I use the narrow gauge staples for a lot of stuff, especially since staple guns (T50 size, typical) tend to bend too much on me. Narrow gauge staples anchor stuff together as good as sheetrock screws, and without splitting the wood! View Quote We've been using a narrow staple with the 18ga. Bostitch. They work well but not so well on the Pen and ink board for the skin. We use a T 50 hand stapler and 3/8ths staples for the skin. |
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Quoted: We do have an Ace store, and a Big R store. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Guns, you have a PM on your blocked arf.com issue. I was way late to your thread last year, but in early this year! Looks great so far. One question... You have a big box store close to you that you get supplies from? If so can you let us know what it is? ETA: Did a quick seach on Powell and it looks like no Lowes or Home Depot, but I see an ACE. We do have an Ace store, and a Big R store. |
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Excellent!
Which store would you prefer to shop at? Im sure we can scrape up a few dollars for the project! |
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I have no idea if Guns has any kids, but am I wrong in thinking he'd be this kind of dad?
Tautaun Costume |
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I have no idea if Guns has any kids, but am I wrong in thinking he'd be this kind of dad? Tautaun Costume https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--MFgkB-mK--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/khxyxtrc7jnnfxzbpf0j.gif View Quote Hell yes......but I'm glad my boys are almost grown. Actually, I miss that age, |
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+2 Count me in. |
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I can't believe I haven't seen his thread until today.
It looks awesome, Guns. |
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We've been using a narrow staple with the 18ga. Bostitch. They work well but not so well on the Pen and ink board for the skin. We use a T 50 hand stapler and 3/8ths staples for the skin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Question: Are you using the 18 ga Bostitch Air Stapler/nailer to connect the spars together, as well as the sheeting onto the skeleton? Brads or staples? Wondering which you are using, and if there's a special type (stainless, elctro-galvanized gold, dip galvanized silver, etc). I use the narrow gauge staples for a lot of stuff, especially since staple guns (T50 size, typical) tend to bend too much on me. Narrow gauge staples anchor stuff together as good as sheetrock screws, and without splitting the wood! We've been using a narrow staple with the 18ga. Bostitch. They work well but not so well on the Pen and ink board for the skin. We use a T 50 hand stapler and 3/8ths staples for the skin. A T50 Air Stapler from Arrow is only $35. Save them hands, and make mistakes at speeds never known before! Actually, fewer errors due to no movement between aiming and trigger, which happens with the squeeze staple guns. Fair Warning: Do NOT get the electric/Solenoid T50 stapler. Stick with the air stapler for T50, and continue using the narrow crown Bostich stapler for structural, that's an awesome stapler! What length staples have you been using in the narrow crown stapler? |
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A T50 Air Stapler from Arrow is only $35. Save them hands, and make mistakes at speeds never known before! Actually, fewer errors due to no movement between aiming and trigger, which happens with the squeeze staple guns. Fair Warning: Do NOT get the electric/Solenoid T50 stapler. Stick with the air stapler for T50, and continue using the narrow crown Bostich stapler for structural, that's an awesome stapler! What length staples have you been using in the narrow crown stapler? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Question: Are you using the 18 ga Bostitch Air Stapler/nailer to connect the spars together, as well as the sheeting onto the skeleton? Brads or staples? Wondering which you are using, and if there's a special type (stainless, elctro-galvanized gold, dip galvanized silver, etc). I use the narrow gauge staples for a lot of stuff, especially since staple guns (T50 size, typical) tend to bend too much on me. Narrow gauge staples anchor stuff together as good as sheetrock screws, and without splitting the wood! We've been using a narrow staple with the 18ga. Bostitch. They work well but not so well on the Pen and ink board for the skin. We use a T 50 hand stapler and 3/8ths staples for the skin. A T50 Air Stapler from Arrow is only $35. Save them hands, and make mistakes at speeds never known before! Actually, fewer errors due to no movement between aiming and trigger, which happens with the squeeze staple guns. Fair Warning: Do NOT get the electric/Solenoid T50 stapler. Stick with the air stapler for T50, and continue using the narrow crown Bostich stapler for structural, that's an awesome stapler! What length staples have you been using in the narrow crown stapler? 7/8ths A little short at times, and long when putting the 1/4" strips together, but we have a lot of them. Or, we had a lot of them. I understand not using an electric version. I have a personal one, and it sucks for almost everything. |
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Let's not get this locked for unauthorized fundraising....that's all I ask. That said, if you are contact ACE, ask for Sylvia. She's the manager, and knows her stuff. She also knows me.....but don't believe everything she says. She's a firecracker. |
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Those were the very earliest flights, when the shuttle still had twin ejection seats. Hence only a two-man crew and a mostly empty cargo bay. Neat patches.
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Those were the very earliest flights, when the shuttle still had twin ejection seats. Hence only a two-man crew and a mostly empty cargo bay. Neat patches. View Quote Yea, I was 13 when STS-1 lifted off the pad. I had every intention of collecting every mission patch but as often happens with 13-year-olds I got distracted after the first few. I had STS-4 and STS-5 around at one point but they probably ended up wherever my Kung-Fu Grip G.I. Joes went. |
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Quoted: Yea, I was 13 when STS-1 lifted off the pad. I had every intention of collecting every mission patch but as often happens with 13-year-olds I got distracted after the first few. I had STS-4 and STS-5 around at one point but they probably ended up wherever my Kung-Fu Grip G.I. Joes went. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Those were the very earliest flights, when the shuttle still had twin ejection seats. Hence only a two-man crew and a mostly empty cargo bay. Neat patches. Yea, I was 13 when STS-1 lifted off the pad. I had every intention of collecting every mission patch but as often happens with 13-year-olds I got distracted after the first few. I had STS-4 and STS-5 around at one point but they probably ended up wherever my Kung-Fu Grip G.I. Joes went. My kids went to Columbia Elementary in Sunnyvale, CA (now a middle school apparently) Crippen and Young came to visit when they were in 1st and 3rd grade. Both of them have a signed picture of the first Columbia stack from the first flight. My son tells me it was largely because of that day he went on to get a Masters in Geology. I have followed the space program from Shepard's first sub-orbital on. The end of the Apollo Program and the end of the Shuttle program were horrible mistakes. The inspiration alone, they gave to our youth, was worth every penny spent on it. Richard Jennings, my high school science teacher (he taught Biology, Chemisry and Physics at the small town high school I went to) was my memorable teacher. Guns is one of the people his students will remember in the years to come. We need more people like Guns teaching our youth. Thank you for sharing the adventure. |
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Quoted: I have followed the space program from Shepard's first sub-orbital on. The end of the Apollo Program and the end of the Shuttle program were horrible mistakes. The inspiration alone, they gave to our youth, was worth every penny spent on it. View Quote FIFY. I love the Space Shuttle. I saw the last night (evening) launch. I miss it. It should never have been built. It was a horrible boondoggle from the beginning, and an utter waste of NASA's limited resources. It put our manned spaceflight program back by 20 years and killed 14 people. 4 decades later and we are returning to the Apollo Command Module for transporting humans to and from space. We had it right in the beginning, and the shuttle was a grand leap too far. Guns, you have a beautiful mockup of an iconic and beautiful spacecraft. She brought far more capability to the table than we were ready for. |
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I wonder how similar the frame of your orbiter looks to the Buran's? http://sciencecavern.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/RalpMirebs6.jpg View Quote Guessing they're both wood frame underneath. |
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looking good Guns!
like all 3 T shirt designs... The first one is my fave |
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I wonder, when you do the grand opening/dedication, are you contemplating filling the cargo bay with helium balloons attached to small weights?
So when the doors open...Surprise! (Glitter optional) |
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Great bulls! They'll be eating good for a long time. I'm jealous.
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http://sciencecavern.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/RalpMirebs6.jpg Guessing they're both wood frame underneath. The original Buran actually orbited on remote control, no cosmonauts. It also had jet engines, so it didn't glide to a landing. |
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I forgot to post these yesterday when I saw them, but a couple of my shuttle techs had very good weekends hunting. You will recognize both. And damn, talk about nice bulls. Both score around 335. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5524/30196246161_8f1678beb5_h.jpg https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5702/29807185774_e83a44b161_h.jpg https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7570/29892551932_4a7d33831a_h.jpg https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5763/30140834530_8397eeb5f7_b.jpg View Quote The Shear mass of the Girls Bull rack is amazing. You going to teach her how to mount it? |
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I forgot to post these yesterday when I saw them, but a couple of my shuttle techs had very good weekends hunting. You will recognize both. And damn, talk about nice bulls. Both score around 335. https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5524/30196246161_8f1678beb5_h.jpg https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5702/29807185774_e83a44b161_h.jpg https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7570/29892551932_4a7d33831a_h.jpg https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5763/30140834530_8397eeb5f7_b.jpg The Shear mass of the Girls Bull rack is amazing. You going to teach her how to mount it? I think she's doing a European style mount with it, so no. Elk are big and a lot of work to do as a taxidermy project. |
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Much as I like #1, I'm betting some <censored> would claim that image was under copywrite the day after you got the shirts. Otherwise, it'd be #1 on my list. So 1, 3, 2 would be my choices. Very well could be. There are some exemptions for schools and teachers, FYI. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/guidelines/index.html |
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Also, if there are still arguments about how the windshield panels align with each other, try referring to interior cockpit view(s). http://bbcicecream.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/tumblr_l7k5zk23441qzgcis.jpg ETA: Looks like it's been decided already. ETA2: Wish I'd have found this one weeks ago: Best detail yet of the angles and curves around the cockpit section. http://firsthandpictures.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/B110721Db-029-02a_PSwrk_GF_LR1-sRGB_1024res_wm.jpg View Quote Oh yeah.....post that now... Looks like we are pretty good. Thats a perfect image. It will still be very useful. Thank you! |
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My wife and I just got back from a trip to Washington D.C., where among other things we visited the absolutely incredible Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center near Dulles Airport. The Udvar-Hazy Center is the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum's annex dedicated entirely to the preservation and display of all forms of military and civilian aircraft, including jets, props, rotors, prop/rotors, gliders, rockets, missiles, general space stuff, you name it. The word "incredible" is an understatement. If you are planning on making a trip to D.C., this should be on your "must-do" list. Even people who aren't in to aircraft will be astonished, just ask my wife.
One of the several centerpieces of the collection happens to be STS Discovery, where you can walk up within mere feet of this magnificent machine. I apologize in advance for the lackluster photography. I am not a photographer by any means and all I had with me was my iPhone. I got a few good detail shots of the shuttle which hopefully can be of some use. Unfortunately I didn't think about this thread at the time, otherwise I would have taken a bunch more pics! This one really shows how replacement of the ablative thermal tiles created a "pockmarked" look on the shuttle: Full size originals are in the album located here: http://imgur.com/a/pfauu including a few repeats and far-off shots that may be useful. And one last one of the restoration area, where a keen-eyed aircraft geek might spot something pretty incredible: Also, if I may make a humble suggestion for your next project.... Cheers, AR-Aggie |
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My wife and I just got back from a trip to Washington D.C., where among other things we visited the absolutely incredible Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center near Dulles Airport. The Udvar-Hazy Center is the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum's annex dedicated entirely to the preservation and display of all forms of military and civilian aircraft, including jets, props, rotors, prop/rotors, gliders, rockets, missiles, general space stuff, you name it. The word "incredible" is an understatement. If you are planning on making a trip to D.C., this should be on your "must-do" list. Even people who aren't in to aircraft will be astonished, just ask my wife. One of the several centerpieces of the collection happens to be STS Discovery, where you can walk up within mere feet of this magnificent machine. I apologize in advance for the lackluster photography. I am not a photographer by any means and all I had with me was my iPhone. I got a few good detail shots of the shuttle which hopefully can be of some use. Unfortunately I didn't think about this thread at the time, otherwise I would have taken a bunch more pics! http://i.imgur.com/fXffR3hh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ckv0lTJh.jpg This one really shows how replacement of the ablative thermal tiles created a "pockmarked" look on the shuttle: http://i.imgur.com/BD2i6Yfh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sDfE1B0h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZzZMtCoh.jpg Full size originals are in the album located here: http://imgur.com/a/pfauu including a few repeats and far-off shots that may be useful. And one last one of the restoration area, where a keen-eyed aircraft geek might spot something pretty incredible: http://i.imgur.com/QsvCpT8h.jpg Also, if I may make a humble suggestion for your next project.... http://i.imgur.com/ZKNumWDh.jpg Cheers, AR-Aggie View Quote Do I see a Horton there? |
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My wife and I just got back from a trip to Washington D.C., where among other things we visited the absolutely incredible Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center near Dulles Airport. The Udvar-Hazy Center is the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum's annex dedicated entirely to the preservation and display of all forms of military and civilian aircraft, including jets, props, rotors, prop/rotors, gliders, rockets, missiles, general space stuff, you name it. The word "incredible" is an understatement. If you are planning on making a trip to D.C., this should be on your "must-do" list. Even people who aren't in to aircraft will be astonished, just ask my wife. One of the several centerpieces of the collection happens to be STS Discovery, where you can walk up within mere feet of this magnificent machine. I apologize in advance for the lackluster photography. I am not a photographer by any means and all I had with me was my iPhone. I got a few good detail shots of the shuttle which hopefully can be of some use. Unfortunately I didn't think about this thread at the time, otherwise I would have taken a bunch more pics! http://i.imgur.com/fXffR3hh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ckv0lTJh.jpg This one really shows how replacement of the ablative thermal tiles created a "pockmarked" look on the shuttle: http://i.imgur.com/BD2i6Yfh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sDfE1B0h.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZzZMtCoh.jpg Full size originals are in the album located here: http://imgur.com/a/pfauu including a few repeats and far-off shots that may be useful. And one last one of the restoration area, where a keen-eyed aircraft geek might spot something pretty incredible: http://i.imgur.com/QsvCpT8h.jpg Also, if I may make a humble suggestion for your next project.... http://i.imgur.com/ZKNumWDh.jpg Cheers, AR-Aggie View Quote Great photos! The one of the back of the shuttle will be very helpful. |
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