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Posted: 3/20/2018 8:34:48 AM EDT
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I watched part of it.......looks like they targeted groups they felt were vulnerable to "MAGA" again because they felt ignored, etc. What is wrong with that? One of the many times I saw Parscale on TV, he explained that that is what their data mining was doing and it also showed that it was having an effect to such an extent that their "polling" showed Trump would win a close one. Why can't they gather that info and use it to win an election by strategically using that info to target groups they feel would like to, for example, see a change from selling America to foreigners to America keeping more of its assets for its own advancement??? Why is this supposed to surprise me and make me angry like I would be when seeing a criminal commit a crime??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Indeed. I just finished watching the above Youtube video about Bannon's old company. Sure does explain a lot about Bannon's role in this past Presidential campaign. What is wrong with that? One of the many times I saw Parscale on TV, he explained that that is what their data mining was doing and it also showed that it was having an effect to such an extent that their "polling" showed Trump would win a close one. Why can't they gather that info and use it to win an election by strategically using that info to target groups they feel would like to, for example, see a change from selling America to foreigners to America keeping more of its assets for its own advancement??? Why is this supposed to surprise me and make me angry like I would be when seeing a criminal commit a crime??? It’s been going on for a long time. All this thread does is expose one of the Kings. Do you feel betrayed by the man who created your hero? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 8:47:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are you surprised and angered by manipulated media? It’s been going on for a long time. All this thread does is expose one of the Kings. Do you feel betrayed by the man who created your hero? That is why they get special treatment by our society..........they can editorialize as long as they say that is where they are coming from but journalism should be going for the facts rather than bolstering an agenda at the expense of the true facts. But campaign workers are not the media and are expected to do what they can to get their ideology/message out to those they feel are most likely to accept them. Big difference between what a campaign worker's mission is and what the media's mission should be IMHO. The media has turned into a propaganda organization more than anything else and not a fact finding institution IMHO. As to your last question...........I'll just take that as a little dig and insinuation that I am a dumbass.......ok, maybe. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:02:16 AM EDT
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Because the manipulated media doesn't cover both sides of the story (which historically has been understood to be their mission). That is why they get special treatment by our society..........they can editorialize as long as they say that is where they are coming from but journalism should be going for the facts rather than bolstering an agenda at the expense of the true facts. But campaign workers are not the media and are expected to do what they can to get their ideology/message out to those they feel are most likely to accept them. Big difference between what a campaign worker's mission is and what the media's mission should be IMHO. The media has turned into a propaganda organization more than anything else and not a fact finding institution IMHO. As to your last question...........I'll just take that as a little dig and insinuation that I am a dumbass.......ok, maybe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why are you surprised and angered by manipulated media? It’s been going on for a long time. All this thread does is expose one of the Kings. Do you feel betrayed by the man who created your hero? That is why they get special treatment by our society..........they can editorialize as long as they say that is where they are coming from but journalism should be going for the facts rather than bolstering an agenda at the expense of the true facts. But campaign workers are not the media and are expected to do what they can to get their ideology/message out to those they feel are most likely to accept them. Big difference between what a campaign worker's mission is and what the media's mission should be IMHO. The media has turned into a propaganda organization more than anything else and not a fact finding institution IMHO. As to your last question...........I'll just take that as a little dig and insinuation that I am a dumbass.......ok, maybe. You should watch the whole video. They discussed generating fear (where none existed) based on gathered data. Bannon used the tactic to create boogie men of Trump’s opponents (both R and D). You are correct, it is a tactict that the Left has widely used before. Of course they have no morals and we do, Right? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:29:07 AM EDT
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Lol, Ted Cruz used the same firm.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/11/senator-ted-cruz-president-campaign-facebook-user-data |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:30:08 AM EDT
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No dig intended. It was an honest question. You should watch the whole video. They discussed generating fear (where none existed) based on gathered data. Bannon used the tactic to create boogie men of Trump’s opponents (both R and D). You are correct, it is a tactict that the Left has widely used before. Of course they have no morals and we do, Right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ETA: On a serious note though........was it really an earth shattering accomplishment to show America that Hillary was a corrupt, mean and evil human being? I don't think it was..........well to those who they identified would at least be open to discussion on that subject. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:36:08 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, in Texas...
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:39:17 AM EDT
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Lol, Ted Cruz used the same firm. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/11/senator-ted-cruz-president-campaign-facebook-user-data 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:40:30 AM EDT
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Holy shit the desperation in this thread. There just HAS to be a reason that Trump won , other than people voted for him. 48 hours ago nobody on this board knew who CA is, today they are the devious demons who unseated the anointed one and the booger eater. You guys should petition ARFCOM for your SSRI badges. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:44:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are your thoughts on CA blackmailing politicians using methods such as sending hookers to hang around their homes? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:45:42 AM EDT
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I have more morals than the Left does...........that I KNOW!!!
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ETA: On a serious note though........was it really an earth shattering accomplishment to show America that Hillary was a corrupt, mean and evil human being? I don't think it was..........well to those who they identified would at least be open to discussion on that subject. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:46:28 AM EDT
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there is no news in the world only propaganda
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:46:32 AM EDT
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Sorry your girl lost. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:47:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't get diehard 5th Avenue supporters without a bit of psychological warfare. In fact it took zero psychological warfare to make me do that. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:48:35 AM EDT
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So, what are your thoughts on Ted Cruz employing the very same firm? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:52:38 AM EDT
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Nobody gives a fuck about this bullshit.
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:56:45 AM EDT
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Nobody gives a fuck about this bullshit. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 9:59:24 AM EDT
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Bannon riled everyone up with a bunch of fake news. Why shouldn't we bash him? As they said in the video. Facts aren't as important as emotions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This never trumper bullshit is getting old, I’m not happy about him talking about gun control but some of you would rather have Hilary as president. If you read the thread title this is a Bannon bashing thread. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:04:58 AM EDT
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Nobody gives a fuck about this bullshit. It's what happens when you get emotionally involved in situations entirely out of your control. This shit does matter to those people, as you can see in this thread. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:05:03 AM EDT
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Whar fake news? When are you going to accept Trumps policy positions just polled better than the witch’s? Whether or not he’s going to stick to them we will see over the next 7 years. Regardless, there is no mystery as to why he won unless you’re in the liberal bubble and couldn’t fathom non believers in the democrat dogma. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:07:27 AM EDT
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If you really think this is lasting 7 more years, you should probably consider you might be the one in the bubble. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:22:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess they're trying to tie the whole thing back to their Russian boogeyman, from what I can tell, because this firm gave a presentation to a Russian oil company trying to get some business in 2014. It went no where and they have no tie to Russia other than a single presentation. This is some serious grasping at straws, unless someone can point out what I missed in the article. Remember that one of the main criticisms of the Romney campaign was how far behind they were in micro targeting voters vs the Obama campaign. Well, that problem was fixed by 2016 and the Cruz and Trump campaigns used the same firm as to not lag behind like Romney did knowing full well that Clinton was using the same apparatus that Obama used. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:30:16 AM EDT
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On the macro level, this is just another play by the Left to undercut the Right's use of social media to get their message to the people bypassing the regular DNC Pravda outlets. Facebook changes their algorithms hitting Conservative sites, YouTube employing the SPLC to police content, and Twitter banning people they disagree with. Remember that one of the main criticisms of the Romney campaign was how far behind they were in micro targeting voters vs the Obama campaign. Well, that problem was fixed by 2016 and the Cruz and Trump campaigns used the same firm as to not lag behind like Romney did knowing full well that Clinton was using the same apparatus that Obama used. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I guess they're trying to tie the whole thing back to their Russian boogeyman, from what I can tell, because this firm gave a presentation to a Russian oil company trying to get some business in 2014. It went no where and they have no tie to Russia other than a single presentation. This is some serious grasping at straws, unless someone can point out what I missed in the article. Remember that one of the main criticisms of the Romney campaign was how far behind they were in micro targeting voters vs the Obama campaign. Well, that problem was fixed by 2016 and the Cruz and Trump campaigns used the same firm as to not lag behind like Romney did knowing full well that Clinton was using the same apparatus that Obama used. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:35:51 AM EDT
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Delete your account when he gets re elected? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This never trumper bullshit is getting old, I’m not happy about him talking about gun control but some of you would rather have Hilary as president. If you read the thread title this is a Bannon bashing thread. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 10:59:04 AM EDT
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Sorry your girl lost. 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:03:41 AM EDT
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Lol, Ted Cruz used the same firm. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/11/senator-ted-cruz-president-campaign-facebook-user-data Quoted:
Meanwhile, in Texas... https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/03/19/ted-cruz-fire-cambridge-analytica-scandal-firm-targeted-voters-data-50m-facebook-users Quoted: What the selectively quoted text doesn't say is that Ted Cruz used the same firm 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:05:02 AM EDT
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there is no news in the world only propaganda It is all "NEWS". How it is used is propaganda. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:09:07 AM EDT
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I have more morals than the Left does...........that I KNOW!!!
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ETA: On a serious note though........was it really an earth shattering accomplishment to show America that Hillary was a corrupt, mean and evil human being? I don't think it was..........well to those who they identified would at least be open to discussion on that subject. She was the worst Candidate the Dims have had in a long while. Why all the Demonetization of the Right? What is Globalist Corporation CA/Bannon's interest in manipulating US elections? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:10:31 AM EDT
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Whar fake news? When are you going to accept Trumps policy positions just polled better than the witch’s? Whether or not he’s going to stick to them we will see over the next 7 years. Regardless, there is no mystery as to why he won unless you’re in the liberal bubble and couldn’t fathom non believers in the democrat dogma. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:10:54 AM EDT
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This all sounds like typical, sleazy, digital marketing practices.
I believe that all other political campaigns since database marketing began deserve the same level of scrutiny into their activities, so we can discern whether or not this is more histrionics or something real. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:11:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one on the Right needed to be told (ad nausea) that sHrillary was evil. She was the worst Candidate the Dims have had in a long while. Why all the Demonetization of the Right? What is Globalist Corporation CA/Bannon's interest in manipulating US elections? Is that what you are saying and asking? I don't follow what you are asking? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:16:31 AM EDT
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This all sounds like typical, sleazy, digital marketing practices. I believe that all other political campaigns since database marketing began deserve the same level of scrutiny into their activities, so we can discern whether or not this is more histrionics or something real. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:25:00 AM EDT
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The point of this thread went right over your head, didn't it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This never trumper bullshit is getting old, I’m not happy about him talking about gun control but some of you would rather have Hilary as president. If you read the thread title this is a Bannon bashing thread. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:40:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:41:35 AM EDT
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Why did Bannon demonitize the right? Is that what you are saying and asking? I don't follow what you are asking? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:42:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, why did CA/Bannon via the Trump campaign attack Right leaning (not RINO) politicians? |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:43:49 AM EDT
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Historical data doesnt exist in 2018 eh. The Trump platform was popular before Trump or CA or Bannon. Ask coulter about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:44:00 AM EDT
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Funny how I never see certain "neverTrump" posters put forth a fraction of the effort they spend on stirring up controversy about Trump and apply it to Democrat scandals. In the case of a select few they even go as far as to provide damage control for the left.
Yup, no shills here, folks. Move along! |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:45:54 AM EDT
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To win? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:47:49 AM EDT
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Now we’re talking! Why did Globalist Corporation CA/Bannon want Trump to win? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:54:59 AM EDT
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Authorities Seek Warrant to Raid Offices of Cambridge Analytica Amid Facebook Data Showdown
https://gizmodo.com/authorities-seek-warrant-to-raid-offices-of-cambridge-a-1823901299 "Only the best people" |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The blackmailing and Ukrainian hookers is kind of a new angle. Imagine that, politics is sleazy, political consultants are sleazy, and they do sleazy things. Report is long on accusations and insinuations about the 2016 US election, but typically bereft of fact. It also does a fine job of enmeshing completely normal, legal, and typical digital marketing and data mining activities with Ukrainian hookers, the 2016 US election, and Trump. All we need is a dossier of urinating on beds and we're good to go. Garbage propaganda is garbage propaganda. Or maybe Trump sent Ukrainian hookers to Hillary's house and filmed it. Yeah, that's What Happened. Channel 4 is as credible as FeedBuzz, PuffHo and Vox. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:10:52 PM EDT
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What's really going on
Opinion piece from Shapiro who isn't a fan of Bannon, didn't support Trump during the election, and routinely calls Trump out. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:12:28 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's like they got their operating manual from Fusion GPS, the DOJ and top tier of the FBI. Imagine that, politics is sleazy, political consultants are sleazy, and they do sleazy things. Report is long on accusations and insinuations about the 2016 US election, but typically bereft of fact. It also does a fine job of enmeshing completely normal, legal, and typical digital marketing and data mining activities with Ukrainian hookers, the 2016 US election, and Trump. All we need is a dossier of urinating on beds and we're good to go. Garbage propaganda is garbage propaganda. Or maybe Trump sent Ukrainian hookers to Hillary's house and filmed it. Yeah, that's What Happened. Channel 4 is as credible as FeedBuzz, PuffHo and Vox. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The blackmailing and Ukrainian hookers is kind of a new angle. Imagine that, politics is sleazy, political consultants are sleazy, and they do sleazy things. Report is long on accusations and insinuations about the 2016 US election, but typically bereft of fact. It also does a fine job of enmeshing completely normal, legal, and typical digital marketing and data mining activities with Ukrainian hookers, the 2016 US election, and Trump. All we need is a dossier of urinating on beds and we're good to go. Garbage propaganda is garbage propaganda. Or maybe Trump sent Ukrainian hookers to Hillary's house and filmed it. Yeah, that's What Happened. Channel 4 is as credible as FeedBuzz, PuffHo and Vox. 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:16:18 PM EDT
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What's really going on Opinion piece from Shapiro who isn't a fan of Bannon, didn't support Trump during the election, and routinely calls Trump out. When we become the enemy to defeat the enemy, we become the enemy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:25:08 PM EDT
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"Hey it's OK Obama did it" When we become the enemy to defeat the enemy, we become the enemy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's really going on Opinion piece from Shapiro who isn't a fan of Bannon, didn't support Trump during the election, and routinely calls Trump out. When we become the enemy to defeat the enemy, we become the enemy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Hey it's OK Obama did it" When we become the enemy to defeat the enemy, we become the enemy. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:28:01 PM EDT
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What is wrong with using big data to manage a campaign? It wasnt wrong when obama did it and its not wrong now. We live in the future, adapt or become a romney. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's really going on Opinion piece from Shapiro who isn't a fan of Bannon, didn't support Trump during the election, and routinely calls Trump out. When we become the enemy to defeat the enemy, we become the enemy. Unless it was done illegally or for Nefarious Globalist's benefits. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is wrong with using big data to manage a campaign? It wasnt wrong when obama did it and its not wrong now. We live in the future, adapt or become a romney. When Trump hires the same people who worked on the Cruz campaign it's snide remarks about only the best people and obviously colluding with the Russians. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 12:45:24 PM EDT
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When Ted Cruz is employing the same firm it's an asset and learning from past mistakes from the Romney campaign vs Trump who has no ground game. When Trump hires the same people who worked on the Cruz campaign it's snide remarks about only the best people and obviously colluding with the Russians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2018 3:29:05 PM EDT
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 Cambridge Analytica: Undercover Secrets of Trump's Data Firm |
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