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Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:53:42 PM EST
[#1]
Wouldn't be shocked if they had to make contributions in order to be considered for gov't contracts with various LE agencies in the state of CA.

We should still be holding all of these companies feet to the fire, though. It used to be much harder to uncover this kind of data, thanks internet!

Hope you guys keep digging!
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:53:58 PM EST
[#2]
I will wait for the Autist from the other thread
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:54:10 PM EST
[#3]
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I suspect every company that does business with anything government contracts has invested in anti-gun/anti-freedom over the years just to grease the skids.  Payola in another name, just a matter of how butthurt the proletariat gets from those actions.
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No the big ones pay them all.  The ones just paying democrats are cunts.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:54:24 PM EST
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Goddamn

Wonder if Streamlight is that bad?
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No they're not, and I felt like I cheap ass buying them over Surefire.

Well, SF can eat a dick, glad I never bought any of thier overpriced shit.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:55:25 PM EST
[#5]
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Well fuck.

I use surefire suppressors...cant exactly cut it up and get something else over night.

Fuck them though.
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Should have bought from a real suppressor company.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:55:28 PM EST
[#6]
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A.

Official PAC Name:
THE SUREFIRE PAC
Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products
Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG
FEC Committee ID: C00464768

Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC)

2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010)
2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768)
2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014)
2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here)

Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez

Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)

H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009
111th Congress (2009-2010)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324

H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
112th Congress (2011-2012)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308

H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752

H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217

H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411
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So, look. I get that we are kind of rabble rousing with this, but they donated money to republican candidates also. Sanchez was the rep from their district in California... it looks like they were just trying to grease the wheels that they actually had to deal with. She was the rep for that district for like 20 years.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:55:48 PM EST
[#7]
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A.

Official PAC Name:
THE SUREFIRE PAC
Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products
Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG
FEC Committee ID: C00464768

Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC)

2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010)
2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768)
2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014)
2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here)

Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez

Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)

H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009
111th Congress (2009-2010)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324

H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
112th Congress (2011-2012)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308

H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752

H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217

H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411
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Oh jesus.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:56:53 PM EST
[#8]
Ain't that some shit.

"Maybe" it's Surefire lining pockets for tax abatements, favors, and such. Californistan only has 7 Republican Reps, out of 53 districts, and 2 Dem senators. So any pocket lining would more than likely have to go into a Democommie's bank account. No excuse at all to hand $$$ to those cocksuckers, but sometimes you gotta pay to play.

I love my Surefire lights, but I'm probably gonna start sending money to Streamlight from now on.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:57:56 PM EST
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What happened between 2012 and 2014?
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Didn’t Sandy Hook and moving out of Colorado take place during this time?
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:59:08 PM EST
[#10]
So much for that SOCOM RC2 can I was going to buy. Looks like I'll just change mounts and buy another TranQuilo.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 4:59:27 PM EST
[#11]
We should just boycott the world.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:00:30 PM EST
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Any progun donations?
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Here's all their donations:

2010
Miller, Gary (R-CA)$2,000
Sanchez, Loretta (D-CA)$4,800

2012
McKeon, Buck (R-CA)$3,500
Miller, Gary (R-CA)$2,500
Rohrabacher, Dana (R-CA)$2,500
Salmon, Matt (R-AZ)$5,000
Sanchez, Loretta (D-CA)$5,000

2014
McKeon, Buck (R-CA)$555
Miller, Gary (R-CA)$555
Sanchez, Loretta (D-CA)$556
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:00:30 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:00:57 PM EST
[#14]
BTW OP

Thanks for digging this up, I was going to buy a suppressor from them for my LMT MWS, I'm going with Gemtech now.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:01:01 PM EST
[#15]
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Didn’t Sandy Hook and moving out of Colorado take place during this time?
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What happened between 2012 and 2014?
Didn’t Sandy Hook and moving out of Colorado take place during this time?
Surefire was in Colorado?

Or are you thinking about the Magpul move after Sand hook?
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:02:28 PM EST
[#16]
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We should just boycott the world.
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Maybe just boycotting companies working against your rights would be applicable.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:02:52 PM EST
[#17]
WTF. With my 60-round standard cap mag I say WTF.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:02:56 PM EST
[#18]
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Just wait until we get a report on all the money Glock drops on European politicians.

That’s when the party starts.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:03:27 PM EST
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So, look. I get that we are kind of rabble rousing with this, but they donated money to republican candidates also. Sanchez was the rep from their district in California... it looks like they were just trying to grease the wheels that they actually had to deal with. She was the rep for that district for like 20 years.
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A.

Official PAC Name:
THE SUREFIRE PAC
Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products
Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG
FEC Committee ID: C00464768

Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC)

2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010)
2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768)
2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014)
2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here)

Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez

Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)

H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009
111th Congress (2009-2010)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324

H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
112th Congress (2011-2012)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308

H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752

H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217

H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411
So, look. I get that we are kind of rabble rousing with this, but they donated money to republican candidates also. Sanchez was the rep from their district in California... it looks like they were just trying to grease the wheels that they actually had to deal with. She was the rep for that district for like 20 years.
Well, that makes it okay, right?
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:03:50 PM EST
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Fuck surefire anyways for their black friday bullshit. But good find!
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They're off of my buy list. I'm sure my tax dollars are making them wealthy though.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:03:58 PM EST
[#21]
Outlet50
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:04:41 PM EST
[#22]
Interesting that it's the leaders in their markets that are fucking themselves over.

S&W
SA
RRA
Benchmade
Surefire

Who's next?

Fortunately I'm too cheap to buy stuff from most of these makers.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:04:50 PM EST
[#23]
Sanchez is THE poster girl for democrats stealing elections. Female, socialist-democrat, minority who rode rampant, unchecked vote fraud to unseat B-1 Bob Dornan.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:05:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:06:31 PM EST
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Just wait until we get a report on all the money Glock drops on European politicians.

That’s when the party starts.
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Just wait until we get a report on all the money Glock drops on European politicians.

That’s when the party starts.
Lol no shit!
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:09:01 PM EST
[#26]
only surefire light I got was issued, the rest have been Streamlight.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:12:54 PM EST
[#27]
Proven right again.......I'm glad some of you are finally catching up.

I'll say it again STOP SPENDING ANYTHING ON THE GUN INDUSTRY.

"Oh but muh schootn stuff"

You aren't going to be shooting jack in the not to distant future if nothing changes our current course.
Want to spend money on 'gun stuff'......? Start supporting pro-2A lawsuits!

"Oh but we gots ta support gun makers"

They have all been profiting off of gun owners for decades, and while there is nothing wrong with profit, its time they start supporting the gun owners. All of them...gun makers, ammo makers, parts makers, anything related to the firearm industry, stop spending and send your money to support lawsuits. Yes they will take a hit, but they have to join the fight.

Hell gun owners have to join the fight......most aren't doing jack.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:13:05 PM EST
[#28]
Leupold & Stevens...
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2014&strID=C00548057
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:13:39 PM EST
[#29]
Are they located in Cali?  My business is located in Detroit if you don’t donate to politicians you get fucked.  And all the politicians in my area with power is democrats
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:13:44 PM EST
[#30]
Olight PL-2
I have two of these.  And another somewhere I can't find.  Awesome and rugged lights.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZN748G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:16:18 PM EST
[#31]
Goddamnit

I have to go fuck up like 3K in surefire silencers and lights now
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:16:21 PM EST
[#32]
I love it. I can't wait to see who else has given money to whom.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:16:42 PM EST
[#33]
Who's next?
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:16:52 PM EST
[#34]
WOW we need to start a database showing this info and let gun owners decide what companies they will purchase products from.

How about Palmetto State Armory? Are they safe?
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:17:32 PM EST
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WOW we need to start a database showing this info and let gun owners decide what companies they will purchase products from.
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Yep ... shine the light on all of them.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:18:30 PM EST
[#36]
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Wow.  It really is amazing how many gun stuff companies are donating to anti gun people.

Makes you really wonder, doesn't it?

I have one surefire product and I'll keep it, but I'm not going to buy anything else from them.

Been spreading the word around about benchmade, will spread the word about surefire.  I am my friend's gun/knife nerd and they do listen to me a lot when they ask what they should buy.....and they are educated about the perils of leftist agenda (and pissed about it).
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It's not surprising.

Most of the "gun companies" that focus on .Gov sales first, like surfire, are not usually pro gun.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:18:32 PM EST
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Who's next?
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Colt didn't look great, but the latest numbers I could find were from 1998. They must have gone bankrupt and reorg'd about five times since then.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:18:47 PM EST
[#38]
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Is this just a greasing of the local politician, or ideological support?
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Doesn't matter? Why in the world would a company like Surefire would want to give money to anti-gun politicians. Whether they're trying to grease the wheel or not, you shouldn't be giving money to anti-gun politicians
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:19:19 PM EST
[#39]
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Is this just a greasing of the local politician, or ideological support?
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These aren’t donations to state or local reps.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:20:00 PM EST
[#40]
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I've stated that supposedly supporting the 2nd Amendment but still working hard for those contracts with the very folks that want to take the 2nd Amendment away from us is a bad option.

I'm curious where Magpul donates too. They pulled out of Colorado but still work hard to sell to places like the UK, Australia, and various locations in the US that are anti gun.
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I dont care about us firms in other countries
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:20:08 PM EST
[#41]
Time to head over to the EE and wait for the fire sales.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:21:02 PM EST
[#42]
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Well, that makes it okay, right?
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After the Benchmade debacle I figured I'd poke around on some of the other brands I had assumed were pro 2A.

Official PAC Name:
THE SUREFIRE PAC
Location: FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA 92708
Industry: Misc Manufacturing & Distributing; Fabricated metal products
Treasurer: HOWARD, DOUG
FEC Committee ID: C00464768

Donations from Surefire LLC (PAC)

2010 - $4,800 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2010)
2012 - $5,000 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cycle=2012&cmte=C00464768)
2014 - $556 to Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) (Link - https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00464768&cycle=2014)
2018 - $500 to DNC Services Corp (here and here)

Summary - Over $10k to House Representative Loretta Sanchez

Bills Sponsored or Co-Sponsored by Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)

H.R.2324 - Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2009
111th Congress (2009-2010)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/2324

H.R.308 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
112th Congress (2011-2012)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/308

H.R.752 - Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/752

H.R.1217 - Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/1217

H.R.3411 - Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3411
So, look. I get that we are kind of rabble rousing with this, but they donated money to republican candidates also. Sanchez was the rep from their district in California... it looks like they were just trying to grease the wheels that they actually had to deal with. She was the rep for that district for like 20 years.
Well, that makes it okay, right?
It makes the picture more complete, for certain.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:21:32 PM EST
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No kidding. Surefure was on my shit list after BF screwup after BF screwup after BF screwup.

Now I'm not selling any of my SFs, but I'll be damned if I'm buying another. Too many competitors selling comparable products these days.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:22:31 PM EST
[#44]
Glad I only buy Streamlights.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:23:00 PM EST
[#45]
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:23:24 PM EST
[#46]
Well, fuck.

Thank you OP for doing the legwork.

I will take the benchmade approach and send my lights I have in for lifetime warranty work but my next purchase will be from somewhere else.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:23:29 PM EST
[#47]
Surefire is deep behind enemy lines, they make the most of their business with Police and Military - so they believe their revenue is secure.
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:24:21 PM EST
[#48]
Good work, OP
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:24:22 PM EST
[#49]
Vista Outdoor...
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2016&strID=C00572156
Link Posted: 2/21/2019 5:26:55 PM EST
[#50]
Thank you.  I’m in the market for a 5.56 suppressor & was considering SureFire.

Not now!

Why would I support a company who’s supporting politicians trying to make me a criminal?
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