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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:21:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's only the longest in the south because A&M joined the SEC and stopped playing UT over the last 10y. Until then that rivalry was 2y removed from the A&M vs UT rivalry. I'm excited for UT to come join the SEC asap so we can get that sloberknocker back on the schedule. Quote HistoryQuoted: It's only the longest in the south because A&M joined the SEC and stopped playing UT over the last 10y. Until then that rivalry was 2y removed from the A&M vs UT rivalry. I'm excited for UT to come join the SEC asap so we can get that sloberknocker back on the schedule. Gonna be the hottest ticket in town. I'll be very surprised if College GameDay isn't there for that one, no matter the rankings. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:30:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait... y'all have a starting QB??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think UGA wins the SEC this year. Probably a pretty safe bet. I'd love to see Ark win the West. Me Too! But our secondary is already very weakened. It will get tested Saturday. Ags OL just has to give Max time. Hope they don't. I'd like to see Sanders get about 6 or 7 sacks. I think for all their faults the Ag OL will do better than to allow that. Foster being back in the middle at center makes a big difference. And although Arky leads the nation in sacks with 17, I think that’s kinds skewed with 8 of those coming from 1 game against Southwest Missouri State. Now that I jinxed the Ags, please don’t hurt the starting QB.  Wait... y'all have a starting QB??? Well they will definitely start a QB
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:34:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well they will definitely start a QB Wildcat FTW! |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:39:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m talking about keeping players off the field after it’s suspected they’ve had a concussion and not letting them return after a physician confirms a concussion. It’ll take a longer amount of time to know if it is helping, but it’s still an improvement over letting them return to the field next week or stay in a game. Looking back on it, I know I had a few when I played and at the time it was a foregone conclusion you were 100% healed after a few days. Yea, no doubt this is better than what we did in the 90's but the next step is $11 low hanging fruit that nobody is reaching for. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:40:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wildcat FTW! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well they will definitely start a QB Wildcat FTW! Whoever gets snapped the ball is the QB even if they run the triple option
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:40:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First game between Georgia and Auburn was February 20, 1892. First game between Texas and Texas A&M was October 19, 1894. Sorry, should have change the word "oldest" to "longest running". The Georgia Auburn streak was 2 games short of the A&M UT streak as of 2012 until A&M joined the SEC. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:41:11 PM EST
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:42:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, no doubt this is better than what we did in the 90's but the next step is $11 low hanging fruit that nobody is reaching for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m talking about keeping players off the field after it’s suspected they’ve had a concussion and not letting them return after a physician confirms a concussion. It’ll take a longer amount of time to know if it is helping, but it’s still an improvement over letting them return to the field next week or stay in a game. Looking back on it, I know I had a few when I played and at the time it was a foregone conclusion you were 100% healed after a few days. Yea, no doubt this is better than what we did in the 90's but the next step is $11 low hanging fruit that nobody is reaching for. We should have a sensor in the balls too, for field position, field goals, even if they just use it for data to make sure the refs aren't borking shit up all the time. Baseball needs some technology for the strike zone too... umps can make or break a team |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:44:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when I said TEXAS had a player ejected for being too tall? Here’s the play.
For comparison, this defender clearly ducking his head and hitting TEXAS QB in the helmet as he’s sliding (at the end of the run) was NOT reviewed for targeting.
Yeah that is complete bullshit. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:53:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, should have change the word "oldest" to "longest running". The Georgia Auburn streak was 2 games short of the A&M UT streak as of 2012 until A&M joined the SEC. So UGA/AU the oldest & longest running no ifs, ands or buts. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 5:59:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So UGA/AU the oldest & longest running no ifs, ands or buts. Yep, it is. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:31:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:33:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gonna be the hottest ticket in town. I'll be very surprised if College GameDay isn't there for that one, no matter the rankings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's only the longest in the south because A&M joined the SEC and stopped playing UT over the last 10y. Until then that rivalry was 2y removed from the A&M vs UT rivalry. I'm excited for UT to come join the SEC asap so we can get that sloberknocker back on the schedule. Gonna be the hottest ticket in town. I'll be very surprised if College GameDay isn't there for that one, no matter the rankings. That’s a given. Criminal if they aren’t. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:35:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:36:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should have a sensor in the balls too, for field position, field goals, even if they just use it for data to make sure the refs aren't borking shit up all the time. Baseball needs some technology for the strike zone too... umps can make or break a team Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m talking about keeping players off the field after it’s suspected they’ve had a concussion and not letting them return after a physician confirms a concussion. It’ll take a longer amount of time to know if it is helping, but it’s still an improvement over letting them return to the field next week or stay in a game. Looking back on it, I know I had a few when I played and at the time it was a foregone conclusion you were 100% healed after a few days. Yea, no doubt this is better than what we did in the 90's but the next step is $11 low hanging fruit that nobody is reaching for. We should have a sensor in the balls too, for field position, field goals, even if they just use it for data to make sure the refs aren't borking shit up all the time. Baseball needs some technology for the strike zone too... umps can make or break a team Baseball has it. They just don’t want to take the ump behind the plate out of it I guess. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:41:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:45:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:53:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Baseball has it. They just don’t want to take the ump behind the plate out of it I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m talking about keeping players off the field after it’s suspected they’ve had a concussion and not letting them return after a physician confirms a concussion. It’ll take a longer amount of time to know if it is helping, but it’s still an improvement over letting them return to the field next week or stay in a game. Looking back on it, I know I had a few when I played and at the time it was a foregone conclusion you were 100% healed after a few days. Yea, no doubt this is better than what we did in the 90's but the next step is $11 low hanging fruit that nobody is reaching for. We should have a sensor in the balls too, for field position, field goals, even if they just use it for data to make sure the refs aren't borking shit up all the time. Baseball needs some technology for the strike zone too... umps can make or break a team Baseball has it. They just don’t want to take the ump behind the plate out of it I guess. That is SOOOOO much worse than the targeting/defenseless player bullshit football has because baseball actually has a super easy solution for it. They simply choose not to apply it. Have sensors for the location of strikes and balls while using human umps for everything else. It is batshit insane that games, seasons, or even careers are being decided umps who call a strike that catches 100% of the zone a ball and a ball 8" off the plate a strike. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:08:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:22:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? Would you rather have a “better” team that never makes the playoff? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:34:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:43:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you rather have a “better” team that never makes the playoff? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? Would you rather have a “better” team that never makes the playoff? I’m just saying there’s no sense ducking good teams during the regular season. Sure SC is an easy out but I’d much rather rotate thru the East than play them every year. Oregon is a great example of not ducking (no pun intended) great opponents. They got their ass kicked by Georgia when they could have scheduled someone much easier. And they scheduled Ohio St last year. And went on the road both years to do it. Props to them. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 8:47:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:14:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? Half the playoff teams do every year |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:24:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Half the playoff teams do every year Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? Half the playoff teams do every year Who has been multiple times and lost in the first round every time? Notre Dame? Twice? Oklahoma 4 times? Or is it 3? Think that’s all. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:42:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who has been multiple times and lost in the first round every time? Notre Dame? Twice? Oklahoma 4 times? Or is it 3? Think that’s all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? Half the playoff teams do every year Who has been multiple times and lost in the first round every time? Notre Dame? Twice? Oklahoma 4 times? Or is it 3? Think that’s all. They had at least one that they came close. They've had a glaring deficiency called defence for a solid decade or so now. They get passes on their loses too. Multiple 1 loss Big 12 champs have been passed over but OU is pretty much assured with that record and all our teams play each other every year so no easy outs |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:51:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion Yea, the SC thing was stupid. Nobody in Aggieland gives a shit about SC. The only east team we have history with was Missouri, but I don't think they wanted to bring in two new schools and pair them up or some stupid shit. Anyhow, the A&M SC cross division rivalry is stupid. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 4:37:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, the SC thing was stupid. Nobody in Aggieland gives a shit about SC. The only east team we have history with was Missouri, but I don't think they wanted to bring in two new schools and pair them up or some stupid shit. Anyhow, the A&M SC cross division rivalry is stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion Yea, the SC thing was stupid. Nobody in Aggieland gives a shit about SC. The only east team we have history with was Missouri, but I don't think they wanted to bring in two new schools and pair them up or some stupid shit. Anyhow, the A&M SC cross division rivalry is stupid. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:40:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Carolina fans I know don't care for it either. IIRC, they started the cross division fixed opponent games in the 90’s when SC and Ark joined. Were they each other’s cross divisional game before A&M and Missouri joined? I don’t remember. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:43:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC, they started the cross division fixed opponent games in the 90's when SC and Ark joined. We're they each other's cross divisional game before A&M and Missouri joined? I don't remember. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:53:23 AM EST
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I dont know what the solution is but after t.u. and OU join its likely there will be 4 pods of 4 teams so scheduling is gonna have to change, but there has to be some way to preserve traditional rivalries. Florida/LSU and Auburn/GA in particular come to mind (AUB/bama would likely be podmates). If you're gonna have out-of-pod guaranteed matchups for a few teams seems you have to do that for all to be fair, its just a matter of who gets assigned which non-pod teams.
A&M/SC seems to be a compromise of: Ags have to play a given east opponent every year, they cant have Vandy but we wont stick them with FL or GA either (those teams both already have SECW rivalry), so pick a team in the middle of the pack. hello SC personally i wouldve preferred to see TN over SC if those were the criteria. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:37:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? That 54-48 OT loss to Georgia is still hard to take. I won't miss Riley and his scoring 50 points and barely winning mentality. I think Brent Venables is much better moving forward in the SEC. He was at OU during that 77-0 OU victory over A&M. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:42:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That 54-48 OT loss to Georgia is still hard to take. I won't miss Riley and his scoring 50 points and barely winning mentality. I think Brent Venables is much better moving forward in the SEC. He was at OU during that 77-0 OU victory over A&M. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? That 54-48 OT loss to Georgia is still hard to take. I won't miss Riley and his scoring 50 points and barely winning mentality. I think Brent Venables is much better moving forward in the SEC. He was at OU during that 77-0 OU victory over A&M. Venables was a great hire, so was adding Jeff Lebby as OC. OU looks very good so far this season, dont be surprised if they work their way into the playoff, or near it. and that not "with riley's players". in the age of the portal there's drastic roster changes right away. Under Venables theyre getting geared up very well for SEC play. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:43:48 AM EST
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:46:12 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They had at least one that they came close. They've had a glaring deficiency called defence for a solid decade or so now. They get passes on their loses too. Multiple 1 loss Big 12 champs have been passed over but OU is pretty much assured with that record and all our teams play each other every year so no easy outs Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't believe Georgia or TAMU have any input into which cross division opponent is scheduled. Monk Then why do Auburn and UGA play every year? Permanent cross divisional opponents. Same reason A&M plays SC. I’m not a fan of it. Partly creates the issue we are discussing here. I thought Aggies played UF as its permanent one Florida and LSU https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/ranking-sec-cross-divisional-rivalries/ Just weird as I don't think A&M has any connection with SC in any way form or fashion When you look at how long some of the other cross divisional games have been being played, it’s more like a who’s who of leftovers when A&M joined the SEC. Although that’s not a bad draw for A&M and the Ags have beat SC every year since joining the SEC I don’t like playing them every year. Its a good deal for A&M, having to play UGA or another competitive team would be more challenging than the Vandy of the Carolinas It’s good for the win loss column but boring. Why tiptoe around playing better teams? Just so you can slink into the playoffs like Oklahoma and get your ass kicked in the first round every time? slink huh? what's A&M's record against Oklahoma all time? What’s that have to do with Oklahoma getting their ass kicked in the first round of the playoffs every year they’ve made it? Half the playoff teams do every year Who has been multiple times and lost in the first round every time? Notre Dame? Twice? Oklahoma 4 times? Or is it 3? Think that’s all. They had at least one that they came close. They've had a glaring deficiency called defence for a solid decade or so now. They get passes on their loses too. Multiple 1 loss Big 12 champs have been passed over but OU is pretty much assured with that record and all our teams play each other every year so no easy outs lol, no they don’t get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn’t that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let’s see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I’d be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don’t have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let’s make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:54:32 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, no they don’t get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn’t that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let’s see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I’d be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don’t have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let’s make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best. How do you explain Clemson? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:56:43 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont know what the solution is but after t.u. and OU join its likely there will be 4 pods of 4 teams so scheduling is gonna have to change, but there has to be some way to preserve traditional rivalries. Florida/LSU and Auburn/GA in particular come to mind (AUB/bama would likely be podmates). If you're gonna have out-of-pod guaranteed matchups for a few teams seems you have to do that for all to be fair, its just a matter of who gets assigned which non-pod teams. A&M/SC seems to be a compromise of: Ags have to play a given east opponent every year, they cant have Vandy but we wont stick them with FL or GA either (those teams both already have SECW rivalry), so pick a team in the middle of the pack. hello SC personally i wouldve preferred to see TN over SC if those were the criteria. 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:58:55 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, no they don't get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn't that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let's see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I'd be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don't have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let's make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:00:05 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OU has performed well against the SEC outside of the playoffs. They will do fine. Heck, even aTm has shown everything will be fine, they were a mid tier team in the b12 and are a mid tier team in the SEC. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:01:22 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont know what the solution is but after t.u. and OU join its likely there will be 4 pods of 4 teams so scheduling is gonna have to change, but there has to be some way to preserve traditional rivalries. Florida/LSU and Auburn/GA in particular come to mind (AUB/bama would likely be podmates). If you're gonna have out-of-pod guaranteed matchups for a few teams seems you have to do that for all to be fair, its just a matter of who gets assigned which non-pod teams. A&M/SC seems to be a compromise of: Ags have to play a given east opponent every year, they cant have Vandy but we wont stick them with FL or GA either (those teams both already have SECW rivalry), so pick a team in the middle of the pack. hello SC personally i wouldve preferred to see TN over SC if those were the criteria. 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. Realignment should be interesting……. There was talk at one time of LSU, UT, A&M and Oklahoma in a pod together. Not sure what they will do at this point, and I ain’t sure they completely know what they want to do, but I could very well see some SECW teams in pods with East teams…… if the pod route is what they choose |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:06:34 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont know what the solution is but after t.u. and OU join its likely there will be 4 pods of 4 teams so scheduling is gonna have to change, but there has to be some way to preserve traditional rivalries. Florida/LSU and Auburn/GA in particular come to mind (AUB/bama would likely be podmates). If you're gonna have out-of-pod guaranteed matchups for a few teams seems you have to do that for all to be fair, its just a matter of who gets assigned which non-pod teams. A&M/SC seems to be a compromise of: Ags have to play a given east opponent every year, they cant have Vandy but we wont stick them with FL or GA either (those teams both already have SECW rivalry), so pick a team in the middle of the pack. hello SC personally i wouldve preferred to see TN over SC if those were the criteria. 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. LSU and Florida wont be in the same pod, neither will GA and Auburn. Its likely only Auburn and Bama will in terms of traditional rivals. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:07:35 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryActually OU has a great bowl record. They smoked Florida and Auburn in bowls the last few years. It's the playoffs where they need to get over the hump. Venables has 3 Nattys and knows what it takes to get that done. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:17:29 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you explain Clemson? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol, no they don’t get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn’t that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let’s see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I’d be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don’t have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let’s make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best. How do you explain Clemson? There are always going to be exceptions and Clemson proved how good and deserving they were. They won. Why does everyone bag on Notre Dame and are quick to point out the fact they lose every time they make the playoffs in the first round? “Notre Dame loses every time and shouldn’t be allowed in the playoffs ever again”. We’ve read that plenty. They’ve only done that twice. Okie 4 times. Anyway this has morphed into more of an Oklahoma conversation when it started out talking about regular season schedules and while not playing great teams will make your regular season look better it doesn’t help when you get beat in the first round of the playoffs every time. I guess you could say; well at least they made the playoffs. Well, yeah they did. But possibly at the expense of a better and more deserving team sitting at home. Parity in strength of schedule is a tough one in college football. With the addition of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC it should raise that even higher. Will the Big12 SOS fall off when they leave? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:21:34 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Realignment should be interesting……. There was talk at one time of LSU, UT, A&M and Oklahoma in a pod together. Not sure what they will do at this point, and I ain’t sure they completely know what they want to do, but I could very well see some SECW teams in pods with East teams…… if the pod route is what they choose Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I dont know what the solution is but after t.u. and OU join its likely there will be 4 pods of 4 teams so scheduling is gonna have to change, but there has to be some way to preserve traditional rivalries. Florida/LSU and Auburn/GA in particular come to mind (AUB/bama would likely be podmates). If you're gonna have out-of-pod guaranteed matchups for a few teams seems you have to do that for all to be fair, its just a matter of who gets assigned which non-pod teams. A&M/SC seems to be a compromise of: Ags have to play a given east opponent every year, they cant have Vandy but we wont stick them with FL or GA either (those teams both already have SECW rivalry), so pick a team in the middle of the pack. hello SC personally i wouldve preferred to see TN over SC if those were the criteria. 4 pods of 4 resulting in 3 permanent opponents would preserve the rivalry games. If they also go to 9 conference games that gives you 6 additional conference games a year and gets you rotated thru the other 12 teams on a fairly regular basis. If they do home and homes on those you play everyone twice every 4 years. That’s very acceptable and much better than what’s occurring now. Realignment should be interesting……. There was talk at one time of LSU, UT, A&M and Oklahoma in a pod together. Not sure what they will do at this point, and I ain’t sure they completely know what they want to do, but I could very well see some SECW teams in pods with East teams…… if the pod route is what they choose That pod would be fun every year. Those schools hold history with each other. Trade LSU for Arky and the old SWC is back together. LSU and A&M are mentioned a lot together though so they will probably end up together. Many want that to become a rivalry game. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:30:18 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OU has performed well against the SEC outside of the playoffs. They will do fine. Heck, even aTm has shown everything will be fine, they were a mid tier team in the b12 and are a mid tier team in the SEC. 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:33:55 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OU has performed well against the SEC outside of the playoffs. They will do fine. Heck, even aTm has shown everything will be fine, they were a mid tier team in the b12 and are a mid tier team in the SEC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol, no they don't get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn't that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let's see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I'd be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don't have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let's make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best. Well there’s 14 teams and really only 2 at the top. So that leaves everyone else to be somewhere in the middle or at the bottom. Hopefully A&M can find an offense here pretty quick or that mid tier ranking you give them might not hold. Oklahoma has only played 2 SEC regular season opponents in the last 10 years. Tennessee twice. I’d personally discount bowl games and also playoff games to be fair. I’m looking forward to them playing a full SEC regular season schedule. There really aren’t any easy weeks when you are playing a conference opponent. Many of the teams that don’t get talked about here like Ole Miss, Mississippi State etc are not easy outs. They will give you hell every week. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:43:02 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OU has performed well against the SEC outside of the playoffs. They will do fine. Heck, even aTm has shown everything will be fine, they were a mid tier team in the b12 and are a mid tier team in the SEC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol, no they don't get a pass. Especially just because other conference members were passed over. Wasn't that just TCU and Baylor in 2014? Let's see how many 11-1 seasons Oklahoma has once they move to the SEC. I'd be very surprised if they have that many. Anyway, this has morphed into an Oklahoma conversation when that was never the intention. They were simply used as an example of what happens when you don't have playoff quality teams on your regular season schedule. I hope Oklahoma and Texas both play Georgia and Bama in their first year in the SEC. Let's make up for lost time and see how the Big12s best stack up with the SECs best.  Attached FileIt’s true Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:47:30 AM EST
[#48]
This is the most often mentiond SEC pod configuration:
Pod A: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina Pod B: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt Pod C: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Texas A&M Pod D: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas 9 Game Conference Schedule Each team would play the other 3 teams in their pod Each team would play two teams from the other 3 pods on a rotating basis 10 Game Conference Schedule (don't think it would happen) Each team would play the other 3 teams in their pod Each team would play two teams from the other 3 pods on a rotating basis Each team would keep one traditional rival game (AU/UGA) |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:48:31 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the most often mentiond SEC pod configuration: Pod A: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina Pod B: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt Pod C: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Texas A&M Pod D: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas 9 Game Conference Schedule Each team would play the other 3 teams in their pod Each team would play two teams from the other 3 pods on a rotating basis 10 Game Conference Schedule (don't think it would happen) Each team would play the other 3 teams in their pod Each team would play two teams from the other 3 pods on a rotating basis Each team would keep one traditional rival game (AU/UGA) I have been told only real conferences play 8 games But I would switch Arky and Mizzou for LSU/TA&M |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:03:32 AM EST
[#50]
If they put one pod as: Arkansas, University of Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma
They can just name that pod the Southwest Conference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Conference |
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