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Whenever the gulf has a storm and Texas starts their fucking crying bullshit over nothing.... Our gas goes up to like $4 a gallon. SO YES him calling these lying fucks on out on their bullshit it's more than warranted. Like they think everyone is so fucking stupid that we dont know we produce more than we use and buy a ton while exporting texas oil on the cheap. We see Opec's press releases saying the US is letting out tankers sit for weeks and we are at 20% production. So before you decide to get your tranny gash in a bunch. Maybe you should idk open a fucking newspaper? If that storm hits and Texas pulls its normal crying ass bullshit my profits will be FUCKED for the fall season. So will thousands of other commercial fisherman. Are you going to feed my fucking family when I lose 5+ grand a month plus normal over head? What about all the trucking in this country? Every you buy is moved by truck. tens of thousands of trucks.... Sorry for the rant but people like you make me want to punch myself in the face. You will probably be the first one to complain that the milk you feed your crotch fruit doubled in price yet have not a fucking clue why. View Quote |
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I don't give a shit about TX vs VA. I care about the number of socialist-at-heart people coming out of the closet in threads like this. And just like leftists, they think they have the moral high ground. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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price gouging is one of the best topics for establishing who arrives at their positions through reason, vs. who is all about the feelz View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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IHas he defended the Virginia law? No. Its a dumb law no matter what. Defending such laws is the hallmark of an economic ignoramous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Taking financial advantage of people in a disaster or emergency situation is gouging. It's not capitalism. Fucker should have died a slow, painful death just because of his morals. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly. Have to find the story of the guy in Kentucky who (after a hurricane in Texas) decided to buy a bunch of generators in KY, drive down to TX and sell them at a 50% markup. People with a clue call that free enterprise and filling a need. The cops called it "gouging" and arrested him. Retarded. And I'll bet that attorney general calls himself "conservative". This kind of thing among many others is why that term is now purely marketing bullshit. Fucker should have died a slow, painful death just because of his morals. A guy should take the risk of buying a bunch of generators, rent a truck, and run them down to TX and claim the typical $10 profit with selling a generator. Are you guys really this dense? Damn........let folks run supplies down to TX and earn a few bucks......it's a WIN-WIN. |
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These laws are precisely why their are news stories editorializing why communities aren't bouncing back following a disaster. The free market, constrained and hampered by government intervention, is unable to properly allocate goods and services to areas and individuals in need, so we most use our tax dollars, stolen by force, to bring those goods and services to the areas without regard to any economic fallout.
By supporting these laws, those of you all who support these measures, are saying that it's better to have the domestic version of a UN food truck deliver food and resources and burning tax payer funds, instead of individuals and businesses operating on their own accord and taking their own risks. |
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These laws are precisely why their are news stories editorializing why communities aren't bouncing back following a disaster. The free market, constrained and hampered by government intervention, is unable to properly allocate goods and services to areas and individuals in need, so we most use our tax dollars, stolen by force, to bring those goods and services to the areas without regard to any economic fallout. By supporting these laws, those of you all who support these measures, are saying that it's better to have the domestic version of a UN food truck deliver food and resources and burning tax payer funds, instead of individuals and businesses operating on their own accord and taking their own risks. View Quote If price controls are so great after a hurricane...why not implement national price controls for everything? A few years ago, oil prices skyrocketed. People bitched. Oil companies were flush with money so they invested in developing more oil wells. More oil wells brought prices down....and has had the benefit of keeping us from being held hostage by OPEC. We didn't like the high oil prices....but we all benefited from them long term. |
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All the while.........the generators sit on the shelf in Kentucky. A guy should take the risk of buying a bunch of generators, rent a truck, and run them down to TX and claim the typical $10 profit with selling a generator. Are you guys really this dense? Damn........let folks run supplies down to TX and earn a few bucks......it's a WIN-WIN. View Quote Cattle needed to be fed, and so they got fed. I don't necessarily LIKE seeing people crank up fuel prices, but I understand supply and demand, so I accept it. Besides, as was stated before, I would rather pay $5.00/Gal for gas that's AVAILABLE than $2.00/Gal for gas that doesn't exist anymore. |
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I thought you were going to be there for a few years. I was kind of shocked when I read that; I was afraid you'd had to jump out of your AK home. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Uhh, no I am an Alaska resident. With Alaska drivers license and a house in Alaska. I am here on a 5 year development project that is wrapping up in the next few months. I was kind of shocked when I read that; I was afraid you'd had to jump out of your AK home. |
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This is the level of discourse we have in this country. We are so fucked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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LOL. MMMKay, right. We are so fucked. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? ***broken down to remedial level. Man comes in to bitch about others opinions, when man has apparently done nothing to get his own area cleaned up the same guilty opinions. If he had HIS AREA WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CLEAN. Or it's sometimes hard to get stupid laws of the books. |
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No one was bitching and the AG never made a public notice three years ago when Arkansans and Okies were selling round bales at $135 a whack plus freight charges to drought stricken Texas farmers. Cattle needed to be fed, and so they got fed. I don't necessarily LIKE seeing people crank up fuel prices, but I understand supply and demand, so I accept it. Besides, as was stated before, I would rather pay $5.00/Gal for gas that's AVAILABLE than $2.00/Gal for gas that doesn't exist anymore. View Quote |
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When FEMA starts "making it rain" by handing out money after the storm, remember, it's a loan that has to be repaid....It's not free money. If you don't repay the loan it's sent to Treasury where they rake back any tax refund you might have coming, garnish your wages and/or pension, and fuck your credit till the loan is repaid....With interest. |
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Exactly. Have to find the story of the guy in Kentucky who (after a hurricane in Texas) decided to buy a bunch of generators in KY, drive down to TX and sell them at a 50% markup. People with a clue call that free enterprise and filling a need. The cops called it "gouging" and arrested him. Retarded. And I'll bet that attorney general calls himself "conservative". This kind of thing among many others is why that term is now purely marketing bullshit. View Quote |
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? View Quote I don't care what state they're in. I hate the law here in VA, I hate it in TX. Will you accept my explanation of my intentions rather than believing you know what I'm thinking better than I do? |
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? ***broken down to remedial level. Man comes in to bitch about others opinions, when nman has apparently done nothing to get his own area cleaned up the same guilty opinions. If he had HIS AREA WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CLEAN. Or it's sometimes hard to get stupid laws of the books. View Quote |
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I love it when they out themselves. Then turn around a week later preaching about being conservative and hating commies lol. View Quote |
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? ***broken down to remedial level. Man comes in to bitch about others opinions, when man has apparently done nothing to get his own area cleaned up the same guilty opinions. If he had HIS AREA WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CLEAN. Or it's sometimes hard to get stupid laws of the books. View Quote Of course it's hard to get stupid laws off the books. And part of the reason WHY it's hard is because people fundamentally don't understand the impacts of policies they support. Which is my frustration with this thread. People abandoning principle for the sake of "but government declared emergency!". It's like the people who "support" the 2nd Amendment but were okay with gun confiscation during Katrina. |
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My comments were directed towards people defending such laws. I don't care what state they're in. I hate the law here in VA, I hate it in TX. Will you accept my explanation of my intentions rather than believing you know what I'm thinking better than I do? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? I don't care what state they're in. I hate the law here in VA, I hate it in TX. Will you accept my explanation of my intentions rather than believing you know what I'm thinking better than I do? My point is you are willing to talk about it, but apparently unwilling to do ANYTHING about it. How do I know this...You present it as fairly easy to do something about, yet your state still has gouging protections. |
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Exactly. Have to find the story of the guy in Kentucky who (after a hurricane in Texas) decided to buy a bunch of generators in KY, drive down to TX and sell them at a 50% markup. People with a clue call that free enterprise and filling a need. The cops called it "gouging" and arrested him. Retarded. And I'll bet that attorney general calls himself "conservative". This kind of thing among many others is why that term is now purely marketing bullshit. View Quote View Quote |
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Aren't ARFCOM servers in Texas?
If those go down, we're ALL gonna be in a world of hurt. Knock off the name calling! |
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Do you support government action to fix prices when government declares an emergency? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? ***broken down to remedial level. Man comes in to bitch about others opinions, when nman has apparently done nothing to get his own area cleaned up the same guilty opinions. If he had HIS AREA WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CLEAN. Or it's sometimes hard to get stupid laws of the books. NO I DO NOT SUPPORT GOVERNMENT "FIXING" ANYTHING FOR THE MOST PART. I am not sure what they fixed that ended up better. |
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GD: Let the free markets decide you fucking commies!!!!
Also GD: Socialism and letting big government dictate pricing is A-okay when there's a natural disaster that we knew was coming weeks in advance. |
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My comments were directed towards people defending such laws. I don't care what state they're in. I hate the law here in VA, I hate it in TX. Will you accept my explanation of my intentions rather than believing you know what I'm thinking better than I do? View Quote |
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Adding the following response to your edit: Of course it's hard to get stupid laws off the books. And part of the reason WHY it's hard is because people fundamentally don't understand the impacts of policies they support. Which is my frustration with this thread. People abandoning principle for the sake of "but government declared emergency!". It's like the people who "support" the 2nd Amendment but were okay with gun confiscation during Katrina. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It went over your head.... Explained in subsequent post. Ignoring your own states laws while shit posting is another level of discourse the shows how screwed we are. Ever heard of sweeping your own back porch? ***broken down to remedial level. Man comes in to bitch about others opinions, when man has apparently done nothing to get his own area cleaned up the same guilty opinions. If he had HIS AREA WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE CLEAN. Or it's sometimes hard to get stupid laws of the books. Of course it's hard to get stupid laws off the books. And part of the reason WHY it's hard is because people fundamentally don't understand the impacts of policies they support. Which is my frustration with this thread. People abandoning principle for the sake of "but government declared emergency!". It's like the people who "support" the 2nd Amendment but were okay with gun confiscation during Katrina. Somebody from somewhere else interjects their unhappy feelings, in their unhappy life, about another people someplace where they aren't. Makes good sense, NO? |
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Then get your own laws changed. You care enough to bitch about it. In particular in a thread aimed at how UNFREE Texas is. Which was a retarded premise from the get go. My point is you are willing to talk about it, but apparently unwilling to do ANYTHING about it. How do I know this...You present it as fairly easy to do something about, yet your state still has gouging protections. View Quote |
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Then get your own laws changed. You care enough to bitch about it. In particular in a thread aimed at how UNFREE Texas is. Which was a retarded premise from the get go. My point is you are willing to talk about it, but apparently unwilling to do ANYTHING about it. How do I know this...You present it as fairly easy to do something about, yet your state still has gouging protections. View Quote |
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If you honestly feel this is "gouging" and that the average Joe can't prep himself for a natural event that may or may not happen (despite living in a area that has a much greater possibility of hurricanes than non-coastal areas) then you should just go ahead and advocate for a tax that will allow the government to put back enough food and supplies (gas, food, gennys, plywood, etc) to help every person who can't prioritize or plan ahead. Otherwise you are literally forcing private businesses by decree of the government to provide for people who can't help themselves. We have word for that...gee, trying to remember what it is...
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Looks like many on arf likes government intervention in the market place after all.
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Yes, selling gasoline for seven dollars a gallon while people are trying to evacuate is capitalism. It's also one of those things that results in a breakdown of societal order very quickly and has people floating around in the gulf with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. View Quote Store's closed due to evacuation. Didn't you hear there's a hurricane coming? |
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Then get your own laws changed. You care enough to bitch about it. In particular in a thread aimed at how UNFREE Texas is. Which was a retarded premise from the get go. My point is you are willing to talk about it, but apparently unwilling to do ANYTHING about it. How do I know this...You present it as fairly easy to do something about, yet your state still has gouging protections. |
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This is, perhaps, one of the lamest reasons to bitch about someone's post as you can get, and a lot of people engage in such a tactic. Truth be told, it is devoid of logic and is intellectually lazy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Then get your own laws changed. You care enough to bitch about it. In particular in a thread aimed at how UNFREE Texas is. Which was a retarded premise from the get go. My point is you are willing to talk about it, but apparently unwilling to do ANYTHING about it. How do I know this...You present it as fairly easy to do something about, yet your state still has gouging protections. |
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Yea well that ain't me and it ain't all Texans. But a broad brush is being used in this stupid premise for a thread. Somebody from somewhere else interjects their unhappy feelings, in their unhappy life, about another people someplace where they aren't. Makes good sense, NO? View Quote I'm hoping you can realize my post was not specifically about TX. |
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GD: Let the free markets decide you fucking commies!!!! Also GD: Socialism and letting big government dictate pricing is A-okay when there's a natural disaster that we knew was coming weeks in advance. View Quote |
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I realize the thread title is about TX. I'm hoping you can realize my post was not specifically about TX. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yea well that ain't me and it ain't all Texans. But a broad brush is being used in this stupid premise for a thread. Somebody from somewhere else interjects their unhappy feelings, in their unhappy life, about another people someplace where they aren't. Makes good sense, NO? I'm hoping you can realize my post was not specifically about TX. A whole lot of us posting in here are defending Texas for the sake. Because there are a metric ton of threads that go, TEXAS SUCKS BECAUSE..... without anybody precipitating any ill will to begin with. If you aren't bitching about or at Texans..... Stupid laws are stupid laws, they are sometimes hard to get rid of. ***And in complete intellectual honesty...Serious question, should somebody be allowed to yell FIRE in a crowded theater because of free speech? |
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Wait he should have DIED for providing a SERVICE to TEXAS? and he is the one with moral issues? for fucks sake your advocating slow death on someone for providing what they failed to provide themselves. Were the people of Texas better or worse off after he provided them the opportunity to purchase generators that were not previously there? If he hadn't been there would more or less people in Texas have generators? not to mention 50% mark up really wasn't that outrageous given his time, initial investment, fuel, food and lodging on his trip. I would be surprised if he broke even at 50% markup. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly. Have to find the story of the guy in Kentucky who (after a hurricane in Texas) decided to buy a bunch of generators in KY, drive down to TX and sell them at a 50% markup. People with a clue call that free enterprise and filling a need. The cops called it "gouging" and arrested him. Retarded. And I'll bet that attorney general calls himself "conservative". This kind of thing among many others is why that term is now purely marketing bullshit. Fucker should have died a slow, painful death just because of his morals. Were the people of Texas better or worse off after he provided them the opportunity to purchase generators that were not previously there? If he hadn't been there would more or less people in Texas have generators? not to mention 50% mark up really wasn't that outrageous given his time, initial investment, fuel, food and lodging on his trip. I would be surprised if he broke even at 50% markup. He didn't do that out of generosity or care. He saw an opportunity to take financial advantage of folks in a bad situation. |
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When it is posted in the affirmative of the idea in a thread it tends to come off that way. A whole lot of us posting in here are defending Texas for the sake. Because there are a metric ton of threads that go, TEXAS SUCKS BECAUSE..... without anybody precipitating any ill will to begin with. If you aren't bitching about or at Texans..... Stupid laws are stupid laws, they are sometimes hard to get rid of. View Quote When people ask me where I'm from, I say that I was born and raised in Houston, TX. |
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Yes, but to be fair, 4 days ago this was a tropical depression that was gonna kick the bucket over the Yucatán. View Quote From 1980 to the present, at least 70 tropical or subtropical cyclones affected the U.S. state of Texas. According to David Roth of the Weather Prediction Center, a tropical cyclone makes landfall along the coastline about three times every four years, and on any 50 mi (80 km) segment of the coastline a hurricane makes landfall about once every six years. |
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Stupid laws are always hard to get rid of. When people ask me where I'm from, I say that I was born and raised in Houston, TX. View Quote But as to my edit, seriously Should you be allowed to yell FIRE in a crowded theater because freedom of speech should allow for it? @MaverickH1 |
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In Virginia it's defined as a 10 to 25 percent increase over prices 30 days before an emergency was declared.
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LOL He didn't do that out of generosity or care. He saw an opportunity to take financial advantage of folks in a bad situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Exactly. Have to find the story of the guy in Kentucky who (after a hurricane in Texas) decided to buy a bunch of generators in KY, drive down to TX and sell them at a 50% markup. People with a clue call that free enterprise and filling a need. The cops called it "gouging" and arrested him. Retarded. And I'll bet that attorney general calls himself "conservative". This kind of thing among many others is why that term is now purely marketing bullshit. Fucker should have died a slow, painful death just because of his morals. Were the people of Texas better or worse off after he provided them the opportunity to purchase generators that were not previously there? If he hadn't been there would more or less people in Texas have generators? not to mention 50% mark up really wasn't that outrageous given his time, initial investment, fuel, food and lodging on his trip. I would be surprised if he broke even at 50% markup. He didn't do that out of generosity or care. He saw an opportunity to take financial advantage of folks in a bad situation. |
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In Virginia it's defined as a 10 to 25 percent increase over prices 30 days before an emergency was declared. If memory serves it's on the retail level (food, fuel, building supplies) and has nothing to do with Billy Bob coming down from WV and selling generators out of the back of a truck. View Quote the law |
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I wish I was search-savy enough to cross reference the ultra-capitalists in this thread with complaints about neckbearding 22lr and CTD's pricing. I bet it would yield some fun results. View Quote Fortune favors the well prepared and fucks the ill prepared. |
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For the capitalists in this thread, do you ever get tired of explaining supply, demand, and enterprise to socialists? View Quote Stay the fuck home with your overpriced generators you <Removed -40xb> We will get by just fine until a local merchant brings some in and sells them for their normal everyday price. |
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In Virginia it's defined as a 10 to 25 percent increase over prices 30 days before an emergency was declared. If memory serves it's on the retail level (food, fuel, building supplies) and has nothing to do with Billy Bob coming down from WV and selling generators out of the back of a truck. the law |
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This storm was a tropical depression only yesterday. Now it's evolved into a life threatening major hurricane...so your basic premise is flawed. The AG is trying to insure people aren't put into a dangerous position by people raising prices more than supplies would mandate. People need water and gasoline to be safe in a storm situation like this and tripling the price when the supply costs don't mandate it is morally reprehensible...and apparently illegal. View Quote Supply costs dont determine price - the market does. Go ask the owner of a transferable M16 who bought it in '75 if supply cost is his determining price factor. Gas and water work the same exact way. The need for water and gasoline is EXACTLY the point - in an emergency, the supply is bottlenecked. Keeping the price low (by force of law), simply allows the supply to dwindle FASTER and forces people who need it more to compete with people who need it less because everyone is paying the same price. Prices are a SIGNAL to the market that the consumer wants more of something quickly. Without that, you end up with this: But, when you let price signal the market and give the market the freedom to expand rapidly beyond the capacity of the incumbent sellers, you get this: That's not a "dangerous position". That's improving the human condition exactly at the time that customers need it, want it, and are willing to pay for it. Which is more moral? 1. The person who drops their current income stream, sinks capital into inventory and ventures out into an unknown market and risks it all to bring people what they want at the exact point in time when their human survival requires it. -or- 2. The person who writes a law that guarantees shortages will not be filled and more people suffer longer, regardless of their willingness to pay. |
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I don't care if you are or not because I don't care about Texas law one way or the other. I just wish they would get their voter ID laws straight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In Virginia it's defined as a 10 to 25 percent increase over prices 30 days before an emergency was declared. If memory serves it's on the retail level (food, fuel, building supplies) and has nothing to do with Billy Bob coming down from WV and selling generators out of the back of a truck. the law |
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OP clearly doesn't understand how economics work... not surprised though, GD consistently proclaims that education is for sucker...
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