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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:04:25 PM EST
[#1]
And......they opened a GoFuckMe account for his defense. C'mon Man!
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:05:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryA band of outlaws…..OUTLAWS I SAY!!!! |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:06:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't support these laws, but I also don't actively disobey them. I am just unwilling to break the law or push up to the line, and thus go to jail, even if it is morally and constitutionally acceptable. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The guy did nothing wrong morally or according to the Constitution. The people, like you, who support these unamerican laws and their enforcement are worse than "dumb". I don't support these laws, but I also don't actively disobey them. I am just unwilling to break the law or push up to the line, and thus go to jail, even if it is morally and constitutionally acceptable. Coward. You're exactly the type of person who would have wanted to stay with the British. As I said earlier, may your chains rest lightly. They've already got you right where they want you: obedient and submissive. COC 6 warning ~ Bollocks44 |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:07:00 PM EST
[#4]
So that’s the size of an credit card right?
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:07:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope it was the Hughes act of 86 that said no new manufacture machine guns for public use. You can manufacture a suppressor with the correct paper work as a regular citizen. If you are an FFL+SOT you can manufacture a new machine gun with the correct paperwork, but you can't sell to a civilian without the FFL+SOT. Hold on.. before the "Yes you can manufacture them!" You as a civilian CAN manufacture them all you like, but it is illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because there is a law, based on the government's excessively broad taxing power, that they refuse to accept a tax on. Nope it was the Hughes act of 86 that said no new manufacture machine guns for public use. You can manufacture a suppressor with the correct paper work as a regular citizen. If you are an FFL+SOT you can manufacture a new machine gun with the correct paperwork, but you can't sell to a civilian without the FFL+SOT. Hold on.. before the "Yes you can manufacture them!" You as a civilian CAN manufacture them all you like, but it is illegal. 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:11:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ATF is out of control. The batf was always out of control and was always intended to be out of control. The idea of creating the batf is proof that government is always out of ontrol. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:21:30 PM EST
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I have always considered these cards novelties. They will hold a pencil upright, perhaps they might even prevent some magnetic scanning of the credit cards in your wallet. I don't own one, primarily because I would not have wanted to be on the client list when the ATF goes full retard on the matter. One thing you can almost count on is the ATF going full retard.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:23:56 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: COC Ahh yes the internet spirit warrior has arisen! Please show us how many laws you break in order to show how masculine you are! You break those laws! 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:24:13 PM EST
[#9]
I wonder what happened when you take an 80% and drill the third pin hole but do nothing else. Is it now a machinegun even thought he pocket isn’t milled out?
Logically no, ATF, probably. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:25:20 PM EST
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:25:54 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what should i do with my fingers and belt loops? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The ATF is out of control. Hide your coat hangers too, y'all. what should i do with my fingers and belt loops? With a light enough trigger pull, a vibrating marital aid is an MG. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:27:34 PM EST
[#12]
I find his voice style off putting, almost like he is on the spectrum. That said, what the ATF is doing to him is pure bullshit, as usual.
 He’s pro 2A and deserves our full support. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:28:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahh yes the internet spirit warrior has arisen! Please show us how many laws you break in order to show how masculine you are! You break those laws! https://media4.giphy.com/media/xUySTVQyBQfC5ZjdC0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47vwo2wzeeu0yo1p4vx01vuoy9luskonp8j9j3kylb&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:COC Ahh yes the internet spirit warrior has arisen! Please show us how many laws you break in order to show how masculine you are! You break those laws! https://media4.giphy.com/media/xUySTVQyBQfC5ZjdC0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47vwo2wzeeu0yo1p4vx01vuoy9luskonp8j9j3kylb&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g I own an FRT-15. You can see my posts about it in the AR15 tech forum. You said you aren't even willing to "go up to the line", not even talking about crossing it. I'm sure they'll give you a gold star. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:30:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't realize you lose your first amendment rights when you become an FFL/SOT. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So the documents state that one of the guys Matt Hoover owned a store called Coloma Resale. Coloma Resale was an FFL and held a SOT license. He made a video "Is this An ATF Trap And How Does It Work" which described how to order an auto key card and described how to cut the lighting link from the auto key card and install it into an AR-15 style rifle, thus converting the AR-15 style rifle into a machine gun. Ok, there are numerous videos where he is talking about how to make illegal machine guns, untraceable guns, and his auto key cards. All while he is holding an SOT license. If you haven't read the charging documents, they have been following this guy for awhile. The fact he held an SOT is likely the catalyst to this shit. I don't agree with the "cards are machine guns" but if you hold an FFL+SOT you don't do shit like this. I didn't realize you lose your first amendment rights when you become an FFL/SOT. This. I’m sorry, I thought I lived in America, the last bastion of individual freedom. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:35:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own an FRT-15. You can see my posts about it in the AR15 tech forum. You said you aren't even willing to "go up to the line", not even talking about crossing it. I'm sure they'll give you a gold star. You go be brave and post it up on the internet! Maybe you are a glowie for trying to goad people into breaking laws? Can the internet be a fed? 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:37:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arguably I'm a criminal because I have the photo of the keycard saved on my computer, since drawings of machine guns are illegal now. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Drawings of a machine gun part. Yes I know the ATF categorizes machine gun parts like shoestrings as machine guns. I'm just pointing out how even more absurd it is. Anybody with a piece of metal, a printed piece of paper, and a Dremel is a potential criminal. Arguably I'm a criminal because I have the photo of the keycard saved on my computer, since drawings of machine guns are illegal now. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:37:19 PM EST
[#17]
Guess I better ditch my box of old Playboys before the feds charge me with running a brothel.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:37:51 PM EST
[#18]
By AFT's fucked up "reasoning" this is an actual machine gun:
 Attached FileIf you own this, you are in violation of the law for owning a machine gun. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:38:42 PM EST
[#19]
Demented Pooping Pedo Biden is going to find out that even his voters don't want Gun Control.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:39:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You go be brave and post it up on the internet! Maybe you are a glowie for trying to goad people into breaking laws? Can the internet be a fed? https://media1.giphy.com/media/7v735rSZA1Szm/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ox7yjsrmebgoiep1lp87fm45uevdmplqcjsabnwe&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g At this point I would normally advise someone in your position to stop digging, but I'd hate to deny others the entertainment. Please, do go on... 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:40:47 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF really seems to have ramped up the 'fuck the citizenry' this past year Surely a coincidence. FATF |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:42:24 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The process is the punishment. They don't have to actually prove any of the charges to utterly ruin someone. The only way I see to fight this is with organized legal defense like antifa uses. Lawyers and bail funds set up waiting to defend whoever gets pulled into the system. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:42:49 PM EST
[#23]
Let's not call the whole ATF out of control. Feel free to criticize specific agents.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:43:38 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryWhat part was I wrong about? That the NFA is a tax? "'Sec. 3 (§ 1132b). (a) There shall be levied, collected, and paid upon firearms transferred in the continental United States a tax at the rate of $200 for each firearm, such tax to be paid by the transferor, and to be represented by appropriate stamps to be provided by the Commissioner, with the approval of the Secretary; and the stamps herein provided shall be affixed to the order for such firearm, hereinafter provided for. The tax imposed by this section shall be in addition to any import duty imposed on such firearm." That the Hughes Act made it so the FBATFE won't accept the tax on new machine guns? Or that by doing so the federal government lost its tenuous constitutional standing for the NFA tax? See United States v. Rock Island Armory, Inc., 1991. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:43:46 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You go be brave and post it up on the internet! Maybe you are a glowie for trying to goad people into breaking laws? Can the internet be a fed? https://media1.giphy.com/media/7v735rSZA1Szm/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ox7yjsrmebgoiep1lp87fm45uevdmplqcjsabnwe&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own an FRT-15. You can see my posts about it in the AR15 tech forum. You said you aren't even willing to "go up to the line", not even talking about crossing it. I'm sure they'll give you a gold star. You go be brave and post it up on the internet! Maybe you are a glowie for trying to goad people into breaking laws? Can the internet be a fed? https://media1.giphy.com/media/7v735rSZA1Szm/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ox7yjsrmebgoiep1lp87fm45uevdmplqcjsabnwe&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g I did post it on the internet. I told you where you can find the posts lol. Look, I get it. You’re scared of the feds and you’re willing to do what they say no matter how illegal or unconstitutional it is. You won’t even do things that are legal if they’re “too close to the line”. That’s fine, you have a right to be a squish. Don’t put down other people because they aren’t and you’re insecure about it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:43:47 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the documents state that one of the guys Matt Hoover owned a store called Coloma Resale. Coloma Resale was an FFL and held a SOT license. He made a video "Is this An ATF Trap And How Does It Work" which described how to order an auto key card and described how to cut the lighting link from the auto key card and install it into an AR-15 style rifle, thus converting the AR-15 style rifle into a machine gun. Ok, there are numerous videos where he is talking about how to make illegal machine guns, untraceable guns, and his auto key cards. All while he is holding an SOT license. If you haven't read the charging documents, they have been following this guy for awhile. The fact he held an SOT is likely the catalyst to this shit. I don't agree with the "cards are machine guns" but if you hold an FFL+SOT you don't do shit like this. You don’t have some rights because you are a SOT?? |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:44:20 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's not call the whole ATF out of control. Feel free to criticize specific agents.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:45:04 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahh yes the internet spirit warrior has arisen! Please show us how many laws you break in order to show how masculine you are! You break those laws! https://media4.giphy.com/media/xUySTVQyBQfC5ZjdC0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47vwo2wzeeu0yo1p4vx01vuoy9luskonp8j9j3kylb&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Look just accept that your nature is being a yellow belly coward. You played yourself |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:46:12 PM EST
[#29]
To the AFT everything not a
machine gun is a silencer. Suprised they have not indicted Hanes. Their underwear effectively can muffle a fart. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:48:36 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's not call the whole ATF out of control. Feel free to criticize specific agents. Yeah nah, fuck the entire ATF, from the mailroom guys all the way up. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:49:34 PM EST
[#31]
ATF was chartered to collect taxes, not burn civilians to death and shoot people's dogs.
You can research it. 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:50:14 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did post it on the internet. I told you where you can find the posts lol. Look, I get it. You’re scared of the feds and you’re willing to do what they say no matter how illegal or unconstitutional it is. That’s fine, you have a right to be a squish. Don’t put down other people because they aren’t. If you posted something illegal you either are a fed trying to entrap, or really are a brave soul. 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:51:32 PM EST
[#33]
FAFT
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:52:30 PM EST
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:53:10 PM EST
[#35]
I have a photographic memory... Now my brain is a machine gun.
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:54:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you posted something illegal you either are a fed trying to entrap, or really are a brave soul. https://media2.giphy.com/media/fdyZ3qI0GVZC0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47syrn693uvkb95hlvyhc8us8wc38r380wmt1c2niq&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I did post it on the internet. I told you where you can find the posts lol. Look, I get it. You’re scared of the feds and you’re willing to do what they say no matter how illegal or unconstitutional it is. That’s fine, you have a right to be a squish. Don’t put down other people because they aren’t. If you posted something illegal you either are a fed trying to entrap, or really are a brave soul. https://media2.giphy.com/media/fdyZ3qI0GVZC0/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47syrn693uvkb95hlvyhc8us8wc38r380wmt1c2niq&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g  Attached FileOr don't. Your banter is somewhat humorous. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:54:57 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look just accept that your nature is being a yellow belly coward. You played yourself Starting to feel like 1500's in internet form... Like I am supposed to throw down for being disrespected on the internet or request trial by combat. You all have been fantastic!  |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:55:10 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's not call the whole ATF out of control. Feel free to criticize specific agents. Fuck the AFT. They shouldn't exist. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:58:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryJust trying to work up to not being a yellow belly coward as some have mentioned! But thank you for the permission to keep on keeping on!!  |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:59:23 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's not call the whole ATF out of control. Feel free to criticize specific agents. I give the arson investigators a pass because they appear to have their shit together. The rest can FOAD. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:00:07 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes i worry if i fag up threads too much for everyone else. Just wanted to say thanks for calming the nerves a bit tonight. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:01:03 PM EST
[#42]
Five fuckin' pages and still going strong!
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:03:24 PM EST
[#43]
Fuck the ATF, and fuck the ATF agent in this thread.....fucking coward
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:05:18 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has bail even been set for the Jan 6 protestors? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The process is the punishment. They don't have to actually prove any of the charges to utterly ruin someone. The only way I see to fight this is with organized legal defense like antifa uses. Lawyers and bail funds set up waiting to defend whoever gets pulled into the system. Some of them are already home and done with all of it with time served on a misdemeanor. Some were out on bond for awhile now. Some are still held I think, it was never the same across the board for all of them. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:08:18 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes i worry if i fag up threads too much for everyone else. Just wanted to say thanks for calming the nerves a bit tonight. Here to help! I'm still not sure why everyone gets all up in arms when you post an actual comment. Maybe next time we all just post the same things like FTATF! or Those scoundrels are treacherous watch out ye skellywags! Since we are all about throwing around the Coward term.. 
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:12:08 PM EST
[#46]
"I am not the fed. You are the one who is the fed!", said a fed on the internet, maybe
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:13:03 PM EST
[#47]
Another alphabet agency that needs hit by an asteroid
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:13:26 PM EST
[#48]
Freedom of speech is only for the government.
- Government |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:15:15 PM EST
[#49]
Its a drawing on a piece of metal.
What a bunch of fags. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 7:15:45 PM EST
[#50]
FAFT
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