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Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:48:49 AM EDT
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Good point. That's why Germany won WWII.
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It would have whupped wholesale ass in WWII.   Unfortunately, in WWII the Russkies were flying these:



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Polikarpov_I-15bis.jpg


Good point. That's why Germany won WWII.




 



They had it in the bag until they bombed Pearl Harbor.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 5:46:57 PM EDT
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One of my soldiers almost took out a mig 21..........


With a truck.



http://www.aaanything.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hurry_ivan_we_will_miss_air_battle.jpg





Jessss jou laugh but LOOK at the f14 runaway from it ...








Link Posted: 12/17/2014 4:50:37 PM EDT
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Jessss jou laugh but LOOK at the f14 runaway from it ...



http://s1.postimg.org/ksb0csm6n/run.jpg
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One of my soldiers almost took out a mig 21..........





With a truck.






http://www.aaanything.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hurry_ivan_we_will_miss_air_battle.jpg

Jessss jou laugh but LOOK at the f14 runaway from it ...



http://s1.postimg.org/ksb0csm6n/run.jpg




 
Google Image search tells the truth.  Joint exercise with Croation MiGs in 2002











( 14'rs).
Link Posted: 12/17/2014 5:23:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2014 5:39:01 PM EDT
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Fishbed?  Who the fuck names these things?  
Link Posted: 12/17/2014 5:50:04 PM EDT
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Fishbed?  Who the fuck names these things?  
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NATO.




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Link Posted: 12/17/2014 6:12:43 PM EDT
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Typical Soviet junk.

Very  short range fighter.

I sat in one and fought them in training.

It had for it's time very good slow speed handling. But if you chose not to get slow with it, it was dead meat, assuming it survived to the merge due to lawyers.

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Getting tally must have been a pain.  The times I've fought F-5s have always been a bitch to maintain sight.  As soon as they turn nose on it's no joy.  I can imagine the 21 is very similar.
Link Posted: 12/17/2014 6:26:23 PM EDT
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The VPAF and the -17 and -21 would be footnotes in history if the traitors in the White House would have allowed the Air Force to take out the VPAF bases instead of making them off limits.

Who the fuck gives sanctuary to the enemy during a shooting war?  Oh, wait, Democrats do.

TC
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Getting tally must have been a pain.  The times I've fought F-5s have always been a bitch to maintain sight.  As soon as they turn nose on it's no joy.  I can imagine the 21 is very similar.
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Typical Soviet junk.

Very  short range fighter.

I sat in one and fought them in training.

It had for it's time very good slow speed handling. But if you chose not to get slow with it, it was dead meat, assuming it survived to the merge due to lawyers.



Getting tally must have been a pain.  The times I've fought F-5s have always been a bitch to maintain sight.  As soon as they turn nose on it's no joy.  I can imagine the 21 is very similar.


It wasn't really an issue, during the  visual setups either high aspect or perch.  

BVR, I of course came in low. No trouble seeing him against a blue desert sky.  I only ever did 1v1 so getting and keeping a visual was not all that complicated.

The Flogger was harder to see because he had such a huge turn radius, I think he ended up in the next state most of the time
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