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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:10:07 AM EST
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http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e8/e8806dc9278dbdf9cf929aa6a3e3e869aa3c2e15bdf46aa97df3c68de00f06e7.jpg OP is right. Fuck Russia. In general, the Russians and the Russian government are not your friends. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 6:14:38 AM EST
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Russia sides with Russia just like the USA sides with the USA. I know quite a lot of average Joe Russian people. None of them hate America and none of them believe anyone in Russia hates America. Just like any smart American a smart Russian knows our governments just like to play off eachother to make sure their defense budgets stay fat.
In the not so distant future we will probably have more in common with Russia than Europe as Europe slides further into socialism. The reason Russia has historically backed Democrats is because Republicans were always the ones selling the anti Russia crap. Obama and Hillary started using Russia as a punching bag to look tough and Trump wanted to get along with them so they support Trump. Same shit we do with every other nation. You all better get with it. Russia doesn't really give a fuck about what we do nowdays unless we are causing shit with their neighbors they have to deal with. Europe is more actively intent on bringing us down than any other region in the world. They already have a large portion of Americans siding with them too. ETA : the Russians I know do say some of the old cold war guys still think America is out to get them . Much like the grumpy old men in here. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 7:31:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fookin' Russians!! How dare they not self-destroy like us? Russia is the very definition of self destruction. Decades of the death cult of communism has destroyed the human spirit there. Men drink themselves to death by sixty. The natural environment is totally ruined. The entire east bloc is undergoing complete demographic collapse. Nothing means anything in the land where life has no value (Russia). Russia is the very definition of decline. Large oil and gas reserves are what's keeping it from totally disappearing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 7:52:23 AM EST
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If only there was some position between "The Russians are our bosom buddies." and "The Russians want to kill us all!".
I suppose that's a little too nuanced for some people. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 7:59:43 AM EST
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Everything I need to know about Russia came from double-time cadences.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:00:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, your argument is, Russia is as bad as UK circa 1972? Well, you've finally said something I can probably somewhat agree with. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:01:18 AM EST
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We can get you and your family out. You don’t have to keep doing this for them. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:01:25 AM EST
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True but remember we almost had Hillary at the helm.
She REALLY HATES US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I doubt Putin hates us that much................... |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:04:42 AM EST
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If only there was some position between "The Russians are our bosom buddies." and "The Russians want to kill us all!". I suppose that's a little too nuanced for some people. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:13:15 AM EST
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Gary Cole (RIP), an importer, was shot and nearly killed by his cousin who was robbing and attacking him.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:19:59 AM EST
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Your analogy is shit and most of your post is shit. Obama wanted me dead. Obama wanted to destroy our country and everything it stands for. He wanted to give it away to foreign interests so they could take over. I do side with Putin over Obama, but I trust neither.
Of course Putin doesn't have American interests at heart. He has his own interests first, and somewhere down the list, he looks out for Russian interests. People appreciate a strong leader who isn't out to sabatoge his own country, which is probably why arfcommers like him. More of a respect thing than love. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:31:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean the group who got funded and fully supported, and controlled by Lenin's ComIntern, then Stalin, then rest of Soviet politburo over its entire life span, who were given literal orders to infiltrate schools, academia, television, film, politics, govt. Top four officials in Russia right now are Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev, Valentina Matviyenko, and Vyacheslav Volodin. All four were members of the communist party, some far more involved than just signing up for career progession which is what FSB_troll will state when he replies to this post. Go look up "notable members" of Putin's United Russia party, they're all former commies who still practice most of the same oppressive policies that made commie countries shitty, whose one new allowed vice is switching from Marxist economics to Kleptocracy. They aren't capitalists anymore than Obama or Bernie Sanders, who made tens of millions in their career in never ending shady business deals didn't prohibit either from being fellow travelers. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:34:41 AM EST
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14'er is fucking clueless~~ Bwhaahahaha..........Why does Putin have no opponent in re-election.??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia isn't Communist anymore, grandpa. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:37:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS, and I'll take a Russian over a militant Islamist any day of the week and twice on sunday. They are such an untrustworthy enemy of the USA, we have been relying on them for transit to and from the International Space Station.  Islamist scum are scum, but Russia takes murder of non-conformists and undesirables to a much higher level. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:39:15 AM EST
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Its funny how the Russians finally figured out that their propaganda works just as well on that derpy segment of the American "right" as it did on the left. Add in the GD tweenager retard accounts that believe everything they see on YouTube and you get the ball gargler posts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Couldn't agree more OP. As I've said in other threads before.. well see how ARFs tune in GD changes when Putin uses his propaganda resources to support the Democrat candidate in 2020. Russia benefits from chaos in American politics. Add in the GD tweenager retard accounts that believe everything they see on YouTube and you get the ball gargler posts. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:40:30 AM EST
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We need to get rid of the Commies in our own country before worrying about Russia.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:46:04 AM EST
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Sick and tired of all the bullshit Putin and Russia dick sucking going on. That seemed to be popularized during the Obama administration and still hasn't completely faded away. Just because Obama was a POS President, doesn't make Putin and Russia our ally (  ). That's like having a druggy, jail bird cousin, and you both end up in a fight with a armed robber who is trying to take your shit or murder you, and picking HIS side instead of your own cousin. Like thinking the armed attacker whose trying to rob or kill you, has your interest more at heart, than your own fucking blood.
Russians and the Government of Russia hates America and everything it stands for. It wants to knock us down, and take over. Putin, wants to recreate the Soviet Union. He might not be able to achieve that, but that doesn't make him our friend. Fuck Russia, and may they die a slow painful death. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:48:35 AM EST
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Everything I need to know about Russia came from double-time cadences. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:49:33 AM EST
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Russia's support of Western leftists in the 1960s-1970s was more successful than any military victories their revolutionaries won. Now,the derpy "Russians hate queers and Muslims too" right eats up the same bullshit that had idiots waving Viet Cong flags in the name of freedom.
This thread shows exactly why Russia is stupid not to tamper with US politics though I have no idea why people who should know better want to wrestle with the pig though. Ignore it and it will go away. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:52:20 AM EST
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Lol the parody thread for this thread had potential...oh well..
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:52:21 AM EST
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Many folks are very focused on Russia when we actually have more external opponents (or enemies) than just them.
Russia is still dealing with many internal issues such as a very low birth rate vs. mortality rate and an economy that's still nothing to write home about. Conversely, the folks on the other side of the Pacific have a much stronger economy that has been outpacing other strong ones and is already the second in the world. Despite not very much "communist" lately, they are still more communist than Russia and I would not turn my back to them either. They also have some interesting books and strategies on how to deal with enemies that fit the issue we have been facing with liberals. http://changingminds.org/disciplines/warfare/36_strategems/36_stratagems.htm So, adding all this together, I still think we need to deal with the internal hyena(s) and control it. Of course, never taking our eyes from the one(s) outside of the fence. Furthermore, who was the famous guy in American history who said we deal with the internal enemy first? Cannot recall the name, but someone already addressed this dilemma sometime ago. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:59:07 AM EST
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im russian born, american by choice.
parent immigrated here in the 70’s anb brought my 1yr old self with them. thank g-d they did and i have no doubt the US is the greatest country on this planet. that being said, i know lots of russians and lets just say that the sentiment OP thinks the average rissian has towards americans is WRONG. they may have their national pride but the overall feeling toward america is not one of hate.. not even close. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:03:58 AM EST
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Lol the parody thread for this thread had potential...oh well.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310196/1508441044026-448373.jpg |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:04:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suggest you go see a Dr OP. They have meds these days for your condition. I don't think they are our friends FWIW. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:05:27 AM EST
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:08:17 AM EST
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im russian born, american by choice. parent immigrated here in the 70’s anb brought my 1yr old self with them. thank g-d they did and i have no doubt the US is the greatest country on this planet. that being said, i know lots of russians and lets just say that the sentiment OP thinks the average rissian has towards americans is WRONG. they may have their national pride but the overall feeling toward america is not one of hate.. not even close. How's Sheepshead Bay these days? Unfortunately, this thread wasn't able to become a discussion of percentages or chances to assess opinions of Russian towards Americans, as it quickly became infested by useful idiots and Kremlin trolls. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:10:54 AM EST
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Patton was right Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol the parody thread for this thread had potential...oh well.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310196/1508441044026-448373.jpg |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:12:46 AM EST
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Does Jewish count? You come off as more Jewish Russian than Russian Russian. How's Sheepshead Bay these days? Unfortunately, this thread wasn't able to become a discussion of percentages or chances to assess opinions of Russian towards Americans, as it quickly became infested by useful idiots and Kremlin trolls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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im russian born, american by choice. parent immigrated here in the 70’s anb brought my 1yr old self with them. thank g-d they did and i have no doubt the US is the greatest country on this planet. that being said, i know lots of russians and lets just say that the sentiment OP thinks the average rissian has towards americans is WRONG. they may have their national pride but the overall feeling toward america is not one of hate.. not even close. How's Sheepshead Bay these days? Unfortunately, this thread wasn't able to become a discussion of percentages or chances to assess opinions of Russian towards Americans, as it quickly became infested by useful idiots and Kremlin trolls. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:18:40 AM EST
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As a tinfoiler, I think Patton was murdered for his views............. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol the parody thread for this thread had potential...oh well.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310196/1508441044026-448373.jpg |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:19:40 AM EST
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The really sad part for me is that, although I have NEVER regarded Russia as remotely being our friends.......................I view democrats as more my enemy.
But maybe I am saying the same thing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:25:48 AM EST
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Entirely plausible. They've used Agents to murder political figures and such in Western Europe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol the parody thread for this thread had potential...oh well.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/310196/1508441044026-448373.jpg IIRC, there were 3 or 4 other suspicious dangerous "things" that happened to Patton that made some think those might have been murder attempts also. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:36:09 AM EST
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Are the "Kremlin trolls" really saying Russia is our friend? Massaging to the Left has been pretty consistent since Soviet Times. The US has imperialist ambitions and props up evil dictatorships and suppresses legitimate democratic opposition. US nuclear weapons are a threat to peace. US military bases pollute communities physically and morally. To the right, the themes are pretty clear these days. Russia alone is standing up the Soros-EU cabal of globalist liberals who conspire to bring down western civilization. Russia is a White, Christian nation and proud of being so, whereas the West have become cucks. For that reason, the average American has far more in common with the average Russian than a European, and it is only Cold War hardheadedness of the older generation preventing a natural civilizational alliance. NATO is obsolete, a threat to peace, and a burden on American taxpayers. Americans are saps duped by their government, which seeks to unfairly harass Russia while fomenting and arming groups like ISIS that are a threat to civilization. Any truth bomb about the reality of modern Russia is followed by a classic "whatabout" statement about another place or time where some other entity did similar to what Russia does, so as to suggest Russia is being unfairly picked on. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:44:31 AM EST
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After the Soviet Union broke up and went into little bity separate countries, the US should have stayed on top of things {if we would have had the right presidents} and kept it that way.
Now we got to do it all over again, cold war possibly turning hot. And yes they suck shit! Fuck em. 
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:47:49 AM EST
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Russia is interested in a destabilized and splintered West. One tried and true tactic for them to do this is to fan the flames of anger and discontent on the fringes of society. Open societies always have nutcases and malcontents, and the modern information age makes them easy to reach. Massaging to the Left has been pretty consistent since Soviet Times. The US has imperialist ambitions and props up evil dictatorships and suppresses legitimate democratic opposition. US nuclear weapons are a threat to peace. US military bases pollute communities physically and morally. To the right, the themes are pretty clear these days. Russia alone is standing up the Soros-EU cabal of globalist liberals who conspire to bring down western civilization. Russia is a White, Christian nation and proud of being so, whereas the West have become cucks. For that reason, the average American has far more in common with the average Russian than a European, and it is only Cold War hardheadedness of the older generation preventing a natural civilizational alliance. NATO is obsolete, a threat to peace, and a burden on American taxpayers. Americans are saps duped by their government, which seeks to unfairly harass Russia while fomenting and arming groups like ISIS that are a threat to civilization. Any truth bomb about the reality of modern Russia is followed by a classic "whatabout" statement about another place or time where some other entity did similar to what Russia does, so as to suggest Russia is being unfairly picked on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are the "Kremlin trolls" really saying Russia is our friend? Massaging to the Left has been pretty consistent since Soviet Times. The US has imperialist ambitions and props up evil dictatorships and suppresses legitimate democratic opposition. US nuclear weapons are a threat to peace. US military bases pollute communities physically and morally. To the right, the themes are pretty clear these days. Russia alone is standing up the Soros-EU cabal of globalist liberals who conspire to bring down western civilization. Russia is a White, Christian nation and proud of being so, whereas the West have become cucks. For that reason, the average American has far more in common with the average Russian than a European, and it is only Cold War hardheadedness of the older generation preventing a natural civilizational alliance. NATO is obsolete, a threat to peace, and a burden on American taxpayers. Americans are saps duped by their government, which seeks to unfairly harass Russia while fomenting and arming groups like ISIS that are a threat to civilization. Any truth bomb about the reality of modern Russia is followed by a classic "whatabout" statement about another place or time where some other entity did similar to what Russia does, so as to suggest Russia is being unfairly picked on. I would hope that that is where most of the right wingers are coming from when they post responses that appear favorable to Russia..................? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:51:54 AM EST
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Living through the cold war forms strong opinions. And rightly so. Sure, you can sit down with the average Russian, Chinese, Iranian, or Iraqi and find things in common. But when everyone goes home, things change. The world is a brutal place.
As one Arfcom member recently said; Countries don't have friends, countries have interests. The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you're likely to see. - Winston Churchill |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:54:28 AM EST
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Op sounds angry
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Posted: 2/11/2018 9:56:01 AM EST
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The sad part for me is I honestly regard American democrats as much more of a danger to my way of life than Russians currently. I would hope that that is where most of the right wingers are coming from when they post responses that appear favorable to Russia..................? There's no excuse for parroting lies about Russia and its agenda. The current popular talking point that would have any criticism of Russia means you must support the Democrats is just beyond derptastic to the realm of derpalicious. The Democrats only just started seeing the threat from Russia last year, and cling to the "Russian collusion" hypothesis like they cling to the "white supremacists behind every blade of grass" hypothesis to explain what their girl lost. Anything but admitting that transgender advocacy, to include taxpayer funded sex changes for Bradlea Manning alienated way too many voters. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:02:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's plenty of reasons to fear the American Left. There's no excuse for parroting lies about Russia and its agenda. The current popular talking point that would have any criticism of Russia means you must support the Democrats is just beyond derptastic to the realm of derpalicious. The Democrats only just started seeing the threat from Russia last year, and cling to the "Russian collusion" hypothesis like they cling to the "white supremacists behind every blade of grass" hypothesis to explain what their girl lost. Anything but admitting that transgender advocacy, to include taxpayer funded sex changes for Bradlea Manning alienated way too many voters. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:03:04 AM EST
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If this thread had a smell, it would be an eye-watering combination of sweat, Svoboda and makhorka.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:03:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's plenty of reasons to fear the American Left. There's no excuse for parroting lies about Russia and its agenda. The current popular talking point that would have any criticism of Russia means you must support the Democrats is just beyond derptastic to the realm of derpalicious. The Democrats only just started seeing the threat from Russia last year, and cling to the "Russian collusion" hypothesis like they cling to the "white supremacists behind every blade of grass" hypothesis to explain what their girl lost. Anything but admitting that transgender advocacy, to include taxpayer funded sex changes for Bradlea Manning alienated way too many voters. I can't argue that. It's funny how many of the Left loved the USSR for so many years but now they hate them because of Hillary's loss.............very fickle group of people. In fact, I guess we can all be fickle to an extent but the Left seems to go above and beyond the call of duty when it comes to fickleness. I imagine they feel the same way about me. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:05:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's plenty of reasons to fear the American Left. There's no excuse for parroting lies about Russia and its agenda. The current popular talking point that would have any criticism of Russia means you must support the Democrats is just beyond derptastic to the realm of derpalicious. The Democrats only just started seeing the threat from Russia last year, and cling to the "Russian collusion" hypothesis like they cling to the "white supremacists behind every blade of grass" hypothesis to explain what their girl lost. Anything but admitting that transgender advocacy, to include taxpayer funded sex changes for Bradlea Manning alienated way too many voters.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:06:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention pissing off their own voter base in the Rust Belt and doubling down on it by taking them for granted, while Trump actively campaigned in those states. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:08:26 AM EST
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Many people seem to be capable of only concentrating on ONE threat. Anything else that isn't that particular threat, it is our friend. Well I hope that is all it is. Times change and, for example, when I was a kid I would NEVER have imagined a Russian doing things to try and cause a democrat to lose!!! I would have laughed in someone's face if they ever said that that could, and would occur. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:10:38 AM EST
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From what I've heard through various gamers in the former USSR...
The Russian Gov't, Putin in particular, hate America because they are staunch old guard Soviets. The Russian people, however, don't really give two fucks. They care more about making ends meet, getting drunk, and having fun.(These were mainly young people, 16-32) Many certainly don't like us, but they don't outright hate us. They don't like their own government any more than we like ours, because the lies in their propaganda are even more blatant than ours. They're just used to it by now. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:12:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention pissing off their own voter base in the Rust Belt and doubling down on it by taking them for granted, while Trump actively campaigned in those states. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:13:40 AM EST
[#46]
Outstanding post.
Fuck Russia. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:14:20 AM EST
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The premise of this thread is brain dead.
Russia plays 100% of the time for Putin, and 87% in the interest of the Russian people. The American government is split between the interests of the American People and deep pockets of global financiers like Soros, the Saudi's and others. We had 8 years of Obama, and our Government was far more interested in the protection of global interests than our own people. The conflicts of interest we have had with the Russians in the Ukraine and now in Syria have been over the interests of the globalists, not the American people. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:19:43 AM EST
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Everything Putin does is for show so he can look good, stay in power, and continue robbing the Russian people blind. His broke-dick military couldn't even conquer Ukraine... he's not rebuilding the Soviet Union any time soon. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:26:00 AM EST
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71 more good Russians 
https://apnews.com/5d39ff54f7064c9583381fcb0c1c7015/Russia:-Regional-plane-with-71-aboard-crashes-near-Moscow |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:26:07 AM EST
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Here is a Canadian view, what has Russia done to the US, that US hasn't done to Russia? People need to calm down lol
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