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Posted: 5/3/2019 10:10:37 AM EST
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Didn't read the thread but just wanted to chime in and say that it's not the color of an American's skin that defines us but rather the identity and uniqueness of American culture. The latter we have been losing do to bringing over people that hate the USA, government cheese free loaders, and having open borders. The only hope now is to shut down immigration completely, and let us fight it out over the next 100 years until we are a brownish looking, freedom loving, gun toting, God fearing nation again.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 10:34:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it is more a culture of self policing. That is, you policing yourself. Guilt culture vs shame culture is I think a related concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt-Shame-Fear_spectrum_of_cultures Consider that in the US, Washington started the tradition of quiting after two terms and it continued until FDR. Throughout Latin America the issue of term limits has been very important, because Latin American leaders have never behaved that well. There is a lot of advantages to a high trust society. However, it becomes complicated when you mix in people from lower trust societies. In large measure, that's what our immigration policy has achieved. Bohr was goofing on the weakness often noted of the German and Scandanavian societies, but there is a weakness to the northern cultures. Part of that is an assumption that everyone, like you, is to be trusted. Also, I'd say that such cultures are more objective and open minded, more willing to hear the other side. This is a typical liberal trait that is good, but when you are in a fight you might need to drop that and fight for your side, warts and all. I can say that with by Latin American in-laws, objectivity and truth are not as important as family loyality. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 10:37:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is interesting that in Brazil and Cuba there is a lot of social preference for "lighter skin" (perceived as being "better" and discrimination against "darker skin"... An observation for what it is worth... |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:05:07 AM EST
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Is this you. And do you consider Jews to not be white https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304912/55199AF6-5AA0-4875-A93D-474DE2A0CD59_jpeg-932727.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL.... My ancestors like 500 years back are probably Jewish since the ancestry shit says I'm a tiny Percentage. Like less than 1% and in 1492, the Spanish Crown kicked Jews out. But my family didn't immigrate to Cuba from Asturias (Spain) until the 1890s when my Great Grandfather was stationed in Cuba in the Spanish Army. The reason he stayed in Cuba was because after the war that Spain lost, he liked the weather since it didn't snow. That's where the Jewish connection in me comes from. From folks over 500 years ago. Try again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304912/55199AF6-5AA0-4875-A93D-474DE2A0CD59_jpeg-932727.JPG These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. 
As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:05:48 AM EST
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On what planet? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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African and Caribbean Blacks want nothing to do with Black American culture. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:11:34 AM EST
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Earth, Florida, Miami-Dade County. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:15:33 AM EST
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Jews are a culture and an ethnicity just like Hispanics. You have White, Black, and Asian Jews. Do I consider them White? Yes, if they're White. Just like I consider a Hispanic or Latino White if they're White. These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/02/WhatsApp-Image-2018-02-12-at-12.53.02-PM-e1518437165808.jpeg As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:17:11 AM EST
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Yeah because little Haiti is bastion of safety and crime control Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Earth, Florida, Miami-Dade County. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:19:24 AM EST
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More cause for celeberation among the left. ------------------------------------- The US white majority will soon disappear forever "Since the settlement of Jamestown in 1607 and the start of the Colonial period, the U.S. has been predominantly white. But the white share of the U.S. population has been dropping, from a little under 90% in 1950 to 60% in 2018. It will likely drop below 50% in another 25 years. White nationalists want America to be white again. But this will never happen. America is on its way to becoming predominantly nonwhite." Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:21:54 AM EST
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That's just plain false the majority of Jews in Israel is Ashkenazi and Sephardic. So once again you don't have your facts right and you just try to distract. As for the real question your about as white according to the founding fathers as my dog is Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jews are a culture and an ethnicity just like Hispanics. You have White, Black, and Asian Jews. Do I consider them White? Yes, if they're White. Just like I consider a Hispanic or Latino White if they're White. These folks are Jewish but I don't think they classify as White. https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/02/WhatsApp-Image-2018-02-12-at-12.53.02-PM-e1518437165808.jpeg As for is Israel considered a White Country. That depends, are the Sabras (70% of the country) considered White? Many here don't view Jews as White and a number of Jews themselves don't view themselves as White. Do you consider White to be a race or an ethnicity/culture? Because race and ethnicity/cut to are two vastly different things. Again, do Semites consider themselves White? Some do and some don't. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:22:41 AM EST
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The vast majority of Hispanics are Caucasian. Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More cause for celeberation among the left. ------------------------------------- The US white majority will soon disappear forever "Since the settlement of Jamestown in 1607 and the start of the Colonial period, the U.S. has been predominantly white. But the white share of the U.S. population has been dropping, from a little under 90% in 1950 to 60% in 2018. It will likely drop below 50% in another 25 years. White nationalists want America to be white again. But this will never happen. America is on its way to becoming predominantly nonwhite." Not counting them correctly is Bovine Scatology. Many here confuse race with ethnicity/culture. I will ask the question again. There is a unified mono culture for Whites? Yes or no? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:26:54 AM EST
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:29:33 AM EST
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So I'm not White? LOL Again, do Semites consider themselves White? Some do and some don't. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:33:06 AM EST
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:38:38 AM EST
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:39:34 AM EST
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Well you're the dude that said the French and Spanish weren't white so I don't see how you consider yourself white Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm not White? LOL Again, do Semites consider themselves White? Some do and some don't. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:39:57 AM EST
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I think when whites are a minority all the people that tried so hard not to be labeled a racist are going to finally figure out what it all boils down to in the end . Good or bad , right or wrong, it always comes to that. You put people in a cage , how do they separate themselves? Prison for example. It will always come down to race . It’s human nature. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:40:46 AM EST
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. How does Miami vote you still haven’t answered that question Also why are you so mad that you’re not white since you obviously don’t like whites |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:42:02 AM EST
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Well you're the dude that said the French and Spanish weren't white so I don't see how you consider yourself white Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I'm not White? LOL Again, do Semites consider themselves White? Some do and some don't. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:43:07 AM EST
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:43:34 AM EST
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:44:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anglos aren't white either. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:44:28 AM EST
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Yes in fact you did but when I called you on you're bullshit went back to the Anglo thing How does Miami vote you still haven't answered that question Also why are you so mad that you're not white since you obviously don't like whites Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. How does Miami vote you still haven't answered that question Also why are you so mad that you're not white since you obviously don't like whites Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:45:36 AM EST
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Well if you want to go by that the Anglo Saxons are Germanic lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Anglos aren't white either. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. Krauts mixed with Celts, neither of which is white. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:45:44 AM EST
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Dude has Merkel and Hitler on the wall. 
Left and more left but I’m sure he is described as a right winger |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:45:47 AM EST
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swede1986 has enter the game. Quote HistoryQuoted:
swede1986 has enter the game. 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:45:56 AM EST
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Miami a votes Democrat, the same as Montpelier. Why? Because they're full of Leftists. Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:45:59 AM EST
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Anglos aren't white either. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I said some don't consider Spain and France White for their own twisted reasons like because they aren't Anglo. I didn't say "I don't consider them White". Nice try. Only north-Germanic Lutherans, with blond hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, qualify as white. Fact.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:46:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Krauts mixed with Celts, neither of which is white. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:47:41 AM EST
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Didn't the Anglos Saxons invade the UK and kill off the natives? Hell, isn't the royal House Germanic? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:51:09 AM EST
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Didn't the Anglos Saxons invade the UK and kill off the natives? Hell, isn't the royal House Germanic? All the Continentals are mixed race at this point, so it's moot anyway. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:58:03 AM EST
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Never said white are a monolithic culture. But why did the Irish Italians Germans and whoever else came from Europe integrated well into American culture but blacks that have been here for 400 years still haven't Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Miami a votes Democrat, the same as Montpelier. Why? Because they're full of Leftists. Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:59:25 AM EST
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I'm not sure. All the Continentals are mixed race at this point, so it's moot anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't the Anglos Saxons invade the UK and kill off the natives? Hell, isn't the royal House Germanic? All the Continentals are mixed race at this point, so it's moot anyway.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:00:28 PM EST
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Because last I checked, Italians, Germans, and Irish weren't brought here as slaves and then treated as second class citizens for another 100 years. Yes, they were discriminated upon. But they formed their own ethnic enclaves and then multigenerationally assimilated into the greater American fabric since they weren't easily identified to be discriminated against like Blacks were. I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:03:21 PM EST
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:04:25 PM EST
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So wypepol fault again. This is why I don't understand why you're so angry that you're not white. Why is their culture so different compared to let's say an Anglo and an Irish man Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Because last I checked, Italians, Germans, and Irish weren't brought here as slaves and then treated as second class citizens for another 100 years. Yes, they were discriminated upon. But they formed their own ethnic enclaves and then multigenerationally assimilated into the greater American fabric since they weren't easily identified to be discriminated against like Blacks were. I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:04:31 PM EST
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This is false. I have lived here and there and for the most part they eventually will pick up Black American Culture sooner or later. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:05:57 PM EST
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:06:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Krauts mixed with Celts, neither of which is white. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:08:47 PM EST
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If not white then what are they? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nope. Krauts mixed with Celts, neither of which is white. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:09:01 PM EST
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they’re still not integrated |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:09:22 PM EST
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This is false. I have lived here and there and for the most part they eventually will pick up Black American Culture sooner or later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:10:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Swarthy mongrels. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:11:21 PM EST
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My personal experience with African Immigrants are quite the opposite. Now their kids are different. They very much become part of it. No different than any other immigrant population. Even take a rural westerner snd have him raise kids in NYC and the kid will acclimate to NYC culture. Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:12:00 PM EST
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didn't say White People, I said America. We do need to as a country accept our fuck ups just as much as our accomplishments. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:12:41 PM EST
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:13:04 PM EST
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Whites were the first to remove slavery from their culture. Slavery is most definitely still practiced today in other cultures. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah slavery bad but whites ended slavery while most of the world still practiced it. Blacks have been handed everything in a silver platter and yet they're still not integrated |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:14:10 PM EST
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The rural westerner to NYC isn't the same thing. That's location culture. Not the same as race. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My personal experience with African Immigrants are quite the opposite. Now their kids are different. They very much become part of it. No different than any other immigrant population. Even take a rural westerner snd have him raise kids in NYC and the kid will acclimate to NYC culture. Look at Collins Iyare Idehen Jr., he's Nigerian yet has identifies more with Black American Culture. His paren.... not so much. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:14:37 PM EST
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing. America "admitting mistakes" is a systematic attempt by evil people worldwide to put down completely innocent people in order to take advantage of them. It gains us nothing and will destroy us. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:14:51 PM EST
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It could never be a flip of the switch. It should be expected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup.... still doesn't change the fact that after slavery there was massive issue of that whole Jim Crow Segregation thing. |
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