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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:28:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That I agree with 100%, but in a de-railed conversation such as this opine- it does not directly correlate=depends on another . 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:36:14 PM EST
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Earth, Florida, Miami-Dade County. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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African and Caribbean Blacks want nothing to do with Black American culture. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:43:17 PM EST
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Because last I checked, Italians, Germans, and Irish weren't brought here as slaves and then treated as second class citizens for another 100 years. Yes, they were discriminated upon. But they formed their own ethnic enclaves and then multigenerationally assimilated into the greater American fabric since they weren't easily identified to be discriminated against like Blacks were. I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Miami a votes Democrat, the same as Montpelier. Why? Because they're full of Leftists. Again, are Whites a unified mono culture? I don't recall Germans, Italian, or the Irish being targeted by Jim Crow, segregated, or barred from marrying someone different. The United States for all of its awesomeness fucked up on how it treated its Black population after slavery ended. Segregation, legal and corporate discrimination, the violation of civil rights, etc is and was pretty fucked up and irrevocably ruined the full integration of Black Americans into the very fabric of this nation. To this day, they are treated differently. Whether it is for their "benefit" or not. In the end, because of our history. Black Americans have socially evolved into their own specific culture and society. Up until the 1960s, Black Americans had stronger family ties, better cultural efforts put towards educational advancement, and solid Conservative social morals. But the 1960s ruined it by the civil rights moment being coopted by Leftists and turned into the complete utter clusterfuck we see today. Multigenerational welfare destroyed the Black American Family structure. And that tied in with the history of racism, bigotry, and repression makes a shit smoothie of failure. mimiflipflops has finally outed himself as an SJW!! |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:44:26 PM EST
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Yeah this thread went off the rails |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:46:12 PM EST
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Yep, Latin white supremacists are working with Liberal white supremacists to accuse normal people of being white supremacists so they can take advantage of them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was thinking about this last night. The left is importing a bunch of Latins to end "white supremacy." Yet Latin culture is explicitly white supremacist. The lighter your skin, the higher up you are in society. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:52:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And there we have it folks, blacks been here longer but do worse than later white immigrants because racism. mimiflipflops has finally outed himself as an SJW!! |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:55:20 PM EST
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Here's some fun Irish history from New Orleans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Basin_Canal "Work commenced the following year. Yellow fever ravaged workers in the swamp in back of town, and the loss of slaves was judged too expensive; so most of the work was done by Irish immigrant laborers. The Irish workers died in great numbers, but the Company had no trouble finding more men to take their place, as shiploads of poor Irishmen arrived in New Orleans. Many were willing to risk their lives in hazardous, back-breaking work for a chance to earn $1 a day. No official count was kept of the deaths of the immigrant workers; estimates ranging from 4,000 to 30,000 have been published, with most historical best guesses falling in the 8,000 to 20,000 dead range. Many were buried without a grave marker in the levee and roadway-fill beside the canal." |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:55:41 PM EST
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Also I didn’t know that Jim Crowe was a thing in the north or west but I guess you learn something new everyday Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: And there we have it folks, blacks been here longer but do worse than later white immigrants because racism. mimiflipflops has finally outed himself as an SJW!! |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 1:56:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn those Jim crow laws in Detroit, Gary, ST Louis, Cadmen, Phillie, etc. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 3:07:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And there we have it folks, blacks been here longer but do worse than later white immigrants because racism. mimiflipflops has finally outed himself as an SJW!! |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 3:25:07 PM EST
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Meredith Townsend once said something that would make a College professor shit himself in anger:
"None of the black races, whether African or Australian, have shown within the historic time the capacity to develop civilization. They have never passed the boundaries of their own habitats as conquerors, and never exercised the smallest influence over peoples not black. They have never founded a stone city, have never built a ship, have never produced a literature, have never suggested a creed... There seems to be no reason for this except race. It is said the African has been buried in the most 'massive' of continents, and has been, so to speak, lost to humanity; but he was always on the Nile, the immediate road to the Mediterranean, and in the West and East Africa he was on the sea. Africa is probably more fertile, and almost certainly richer then Asia, and is pierced by rivers as mighty, and some of them at least as navigable. What could a singularly healthy race, armed with a constitution which resists the sun and defies malaria, wish for better than to be seated on the Nile, or the Congo, or the Niger, in numbers amply sufficient to execute any needed work, from the cutting of forests and the making of roads up to the building of cities? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 3:35:50 PM EST
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I know GD too well so I skipped the 21 pages and went to the actual site. See Strategic Partners. See Funders. Elitists Foundations all the way.
https://theconversation.com/us/partners |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 3:43:11 PM EST
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I did a bit of looking into this a few years back. I was in a class in my second stint in college, when we started discussing slavery. I was fascinated and a bit appalled that many other nations imported African slaves but to my knowledge, none of them was dealing with major racial issues the way we are in the US. Why is that? I boils down to how the slaves were treated after they were freed. Brazil wound up importing far more slaves than the US did but once they were freed, they were embraced while freed Africans in the US were shunned and ostracized. For decades upon decades. This isn't virtue signaling or any bleeding heart crap from me; this is fact. If the US had embraced the freed slaves the way other nations like Brazil did, yeah "muh whiteness" would have been "at risk" (to those who care about it) at a far earlier date, but we wouldn't be constantly be getting these calls for reparations. IMHO this is another historical problem the Democrats created and are hanging - successfully - on the necks of the Republicans. Without the inner-city blacks to point to and screech about unfairness, the Democrats lose their power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile, in Brazil: https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5564ea2c71ca1b16008b458d-750-512.jpg https://images.vice.com/vice/images/articles/meta/2015/02/04/welcome-to-americana-brazil-0000580-v22n2-1423064564.jpg?crop=1xw:0.8660508083140878xh;center,center&resize=1200:* https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kL1WLanKKq8/hqdefault.jpg An observation for what it is worth... Brazil is for the most part mixed and doesn't give a damn (40% of the population is African ancestry). Cuba only became Afrocentric after the takeover of Castro in January 1, 1959 when there was a major flight of wealth. Afro-Cubans were treated as second class Citizens and Fidel himself was raised amongst them since he was a bastard child of an affair. The few photos you see of the Confederados in Brazil mean nothing in terms of light skin. There are dark skinned Confederados due to the generations of mixed ancestry. http://www.strangehistory.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/festa-confederada.jpg The average Brazilian family looks like this. https://i1.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Coloured-family.jpg Colored I boils down to how the slaves were treated after they were freed. Brazil wound up importing far more slaves than the US did but once they were freed, they were embraced while freed Africans in the US were shunned and ostracized. For decades upon decades. This isn't virtue signaling or any bleeding heart crap from me; this is fact. If the US had embraced the freed slaves the way other nations like Brazil did, yeah "muh whiteness" would have been "at risk" (to those who care about it) at a far earlier date, but we wouldn't be constantly be getting these calls for reparations. IMHO this is another historical problem the Democrats created and are hanging - successfully - on the necks of the Republicans. Without the inner-city blacks to point to and screech about unfairness, the Democrats lose their power. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 4:55:25 PM EST
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Meredith Townsend once said something that would make a College professor shit himself in anger: "None of the black races, whether African or Australian, have shown within the historic time the capacity to develop civilization. They have never passed the boundaries of their own habitats as conquerors, and never exercised the smallest influence over peoples not black. They have never founded a stone city, have never built a ship, have never produced a literature, have never suggested a creed... There seems to be no reason for this except race. It is said the African has been buried in the most 'massive' of continents, and has been, so to speak, lost to humanity; but he was always on the Nile, the immediate road to the Mediterranean, and in the West and East Africa he was on the sea. Africa is probably more fertile, and almost certainly richer then Asia, and is pierced by rivers as mighty, and some of them at least as navigable. What could a singularly healthy race, armed with a constitution which resists the sun and defies malaria, wish for better than to be seated on the Nile, or the Congo, or the Niger, in numbers amply sufficient to execute any needed work, from the cutting of forests and the making of roads up to the building of cities? This is why we need reparations. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:20:24 PM EST
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Meredith Townsend once said something that would make a College professor shit himself in anger: "None of the black races, whether African or Australian, have shown within the historic time the capacity to develop civilization. They have never passed the boundaries of their own habitats as conquerors, and never exercised the smallest influence over peoples not black. They have never founded a stone city, have never built a ship, have never produced a literature, have never suggested a creed... There seems to be no reason for this except race. It is said the African has been buried in the most 'massive' of continents, and has been, so to speak, lost to humanity; but he was always on the Nile, the immediate road to the Mediterranean, and in the West and East Africa he was on the sea. Africa is probably more fertile, and almost certainly richer then Asia, and is pierced by rivers as mighty, and some of them at least as navigable. What could a singularly healthy race, armed with a constitution which resists the sun and defies malaria, wish for better than to be seated on the Nile, or the Congo, or the Niger, in numbers amply sufficient to execute any needed work, from the cutting of forests and the making of roads up to the building of cities? 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:52:04 PM EST
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Meredith Townsend once said something that would make a College professor shit himself in anger: "None of the black races, whether African or Australian, have shown within the historic time the capacity to develop civilization. They have never passed the boundaries of their own habitats as conquerors, and never exercised the smallest influence over peoples not black. They have never founded a stone city, have never built a ship, have never produced a literature, have never suggested a creed... There seems to be no reason for this except race. It is said the African has been buried in the most 'massive' of continents, and has been, so to speak, lost to humanity; but he was always on the Nile, the immediate road to the Mediterranean, and in the West and East Africa he was on the sea. Africa is probably more fertile, and almost certainly richer then Asia, and is pierced by rivers as mighty, and some of them at least as navigable. What could a singularly healthy race, armed with a constitution which resists the sun and defies malaria, wish for better than to be seated on the Nile, or the Congo, or the Niger, in numbers amply sufficient to execute any needed work, from the cutting of forests and the making of roads up to the building of cities? https://hotels.ng/guides/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Nigerian-city.jpg There are a bunch of third world countries who got rich off selling their natural resources and then imported engineers and construction expertise to build out their cities. If those outside experts left they’d fall to pieces within a generation or less. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:09:46 PM EST
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Meredith Townsend once said something that would make a College professor shit himself in anger: "None of the black races, whether African or Australian, have shown within the historic time the capacity to develop civilization. They have never passed the boundaries of their own habitats as conquerors, and never exercised the smallest influence over peoples not black. They have never founded a stone city, have never built a ship, have never produced a literature, have never suggested a creed... There seems to be no reason for this except race. It is said the African has been buried in the most 'massive' of continents, and has been, so to speak, lost to humanity; but he was always on the Nile, the immediate road to the Mediterranean, and in the West and East Africa he was on the sea. Africa is probably more fertile, and almost certainly richer then Asia, and is pierced by rivers as mighty, and some of them at least as navigable. What could a singularly healthy race, armed with a constitution which resists the sun and defies malaria, wish for better than to be seated on the Nile, or the Congo, or the Niger, in numbers amply sufficient to execute any needed work, from the cutting of forests and the making of roads up to the building of cities? https://hotels.ng/guides/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Nigerian-city.jpg Wakanda Forever!!! 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:11:37 PM EST
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Does importing foreigners to build your cities for you count? There are a bunch of third world countries who got rich off selling their natural resources and then imported engineers and construction expertise to build out their cities. If those outside experts left they’d fall to pieces within a generation or less. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:14:30 PM EST
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Does importing foreigners to build your cities for you count? There are a bunch of third world countries who got rich off selling their natural resources and then imported engineers and construction expertise to build out their cities. If those outside experts left they’d fall to pieces within a generation or less. The Railroads (Arguably Americas greatest engineering feat of the 1800s you'd be talking the Chinese, Irish & Others. The USA got rich initially selling natural resources (Tobacco, Cotton, Agricultural crops, Fishing & Whaling and of course Gold & Silver mining (importing lots of experts & engineers to design, build & operate the mines) |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:16:54 PM EST
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I would say getting other people to do your bidding does count.  Attached FileSo just like the rest of Africa China has it tentacles in Nigeria |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:18:24 PM EST
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Once the world was filled with Yetis now very few exist...
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:20:49 PM EST
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Sort of .... They are pushing the Cloward-Piven strategy and Gramsci Marxism the crushing weight of invaders on the national treasury will bankrupt us...the overwhelming crime will steal our freedom out from under us. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:21:37 PM EST
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Lagos twin cities are Gary IN and Atlanta you can’t make this shit up
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:22:31 PM EST
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/304912/EF322B80-FFB4-4A84-8EB8-FD7DA3047843_png-933254.JPG So just like the rest of Africa China has it tentacles in Nigeria |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:24:36 PM EST
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Pretty much all developments get money from somewhere. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:24:36 PM EST
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Lagos twin cities are Gary IN and Atlanta you can’t make this shit up |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:28:15 PM EST
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Haiti is a failed state. But Black Caribbeans are more than Haiti. You have Blacks from Dominica, Grenade, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Guadeloupe, Barbados, Saint Lucia, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, etc.... Great work on lumping in Black Caribbeans as if they're all Haitian. On top of that, Black African Immigrants want nothing to do with Black American Culture either. Kenyans, Nigerian, etc.... |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:28:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryPeople can explore that city with Google street map and decide for themselves.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:29:56 PM EST
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Citation needed |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:30:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People can explore that city with Google street map and decide for themselves. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:34:24 PM EST
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It's fairly common to borrow money when you don't have enough to do it yourself. No need to cite. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:34:58 PM EST
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That’s not how Chinese “loans” work. They’re made with the knowledge that the countries being extended the loans are so stupid and dysfunctional that they’ll never be paid back. China then takes possession of said infrastructure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's fairly common to borrow money when you don't have enough to do it yourself. No need to cite.  Attached FileETA: This PNG did not play well on here. The colored in portions are different land rights China now owns. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:35:21 PM EST
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That’s not how Chinese “loans” work. They’re made with the knowledge that the countries being extended the loans are so stupid and dysfunctional that they’ll never be paid back. China then takes possession of said infrastructure. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:40:25 PM EST
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That’s not how Chinese “loans” work. They’re made with the knowledge that the countries being extended the loans are so stupid and dysfunctional that they’ll never be paid back. China then takes possession of said infrastructure. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:40:59 PM EST
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Yeah and if you think European colonialism was bad just wait to see what China does to Africa in the next 50 years |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:42:09 PM EST
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A LOT of the 1800's to 1920s America (Gold Age) was built by imported foreigners (Irish, Italians, Poles, Greeks, and don't forget the Chinese too) The Railroads (Arguably Americas greatest engineering feat of the 1800s you'd be talking the Chinese, Irish & Others. The USA got rich initially selling natural resources (Tobacco, Cotton, Agricultural crops, Fishing & Whaling and of course Gold & Silver mining (importing lots of experts & engineers to design, build & operate the mines) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does importing foreigners to build your cities for you count? There are a bunch of third world countries who got rich off selling their natural resources and then imported engineers and construction expertise to build out their cities. If those outside experts left they’d fall to pieces within a generation or less. The Railroads (Arguably Americas greatest engineering feat of the 1800s you'd be talking the Chinese, Irish & Others. The USA got rich initially selling natural resources (Tobacco, Cotton, Agricultural crops, Fishing & Whaling and of course Gold & Silver mining (importing lots of experts & engineers to design, build & operate the mines) Further with regards the the Chinese, Importing menial labor does not equal importing the various engineers and brains who run the operations. The normie-con compulsion to downplay the achievements of European civilizations and play up any shred of turd world accomplishment really is a curiosity. You’ve allowed the leftist media and education complex to rot your minds. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:44:07 PM EST
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I would say getting other people to do your bidding does count. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does importing foreigners to build your cities for you count? There are a bunch of third world countries who got rich off selling their natural resources and then imported engineers and construction expertise to build out their cities. If those outside experts left they’d fall to pieces within a generation or less. At some point white people decided that the conquest ethic was immoral so we allowed the third world to keep their resources and actually paid for them instead of just seizing it. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:46:13 PM EST
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First, most of those people are fundamentally of the same race as the original colonists, people can nitpick what is and isn’t white but if you’re European you’re pretty much some flavor of white. Further with regards the the Chinese, Importing menial labor does not equal importing the various engineers and brains who run the operations. The normie-con compulsion to downplay the achievements of European civilizations and play up any shred of turd world accomplishment really is a curiosity. You’ve allowed the leftist media and education complex to rot your minds. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:48:10 PM EST
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Lol, we could have taken it all by force at our whim. At some point white people decided that the conquest ethic was immoral so we allowed the third world to keep their resources and actually paid for them instead of just seizing it. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:51:36 PM EST
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Lol, we could have taken it all by force at our whim. At some point white people decided that the conquest ethic was immoral so we allowed the third world to keep their resources and actually paid for them instead of just seizing it. They’re lucky white people are as nice as they are really. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:53:55 PM EST
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Yeah, trillions in natural resources, no reason to seize it. They’re lucky white people are as nice as they are really. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:56:05 PM EST
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My neighbor has a nice car. Should I seize it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, trillions in natural resources, no reason to seize it. They’re lucky white people are as nice as they are really. You’re not paying attention. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:56:16 PM EST
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My neighbor has a nice car. Should I seize it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, trillions in natural resources, no reason to seize it. They’re lucky white people are as nice as they are really. 
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:57:31 PM EST
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Did you miss where I referenced conquest ethic? You’re not paying attention.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:58:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can defend it from your neighbor and state authorities it's yours.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:58:37 PM EST
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Since Simon Bolivar, Latin America has never had a leader follow term limits. The fact FDR broke the tradition and people still loved him suggests a cultural decay, IMO. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 6:59:14 PM EST
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There is no Black Boricua culture in Puerto Rico. There is just Boricua. Boricua means Island born Puerto Rican. The Mainland born Puerto Ricans are different thsn the Island born ones. She just happens to be Black, but she is Boricua. Boricua culture is different than Cubans too. Even though we have a shared past and language. There was a split long ago. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 7:05:57 PM EST
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Well if you want to be nitpicky like you are he was talking about anglos not whites. Irish are Celtic not Anglo Saxon if you didn’t know that https://www.amazon.com/History-England-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140431330 Macaulay made the point that Irish culture was such a small number of English could colonize and control them, however, if you viewed them on an individual level they were often very capable individuals. Of course, he was talking about the situation in the 1600s. I made a similar point earlier, and his work is one of the things that made me think about that kind of thing. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 7:37:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking of this book when I responded about the Irish: https://www.amazon.com/History-England-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140431330 Macaulay made the point that Irish culture was such a small number of English could colonize and control them, however, if you viewed them on an individual level they were often very capable individuals. Of course, he was talking about the situation in the 1600s. I made a similar point earlier, and his work is one of the things that made me think about that kind of thing. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 7:52:46 PM EST
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Gdamn it. So is it or isn’t ok to be white?
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