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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised. One side owns guns. The other side doesn't own guns. It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country. Clean and most likely supported by the citizens. The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore. View Quote |
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Lol. Tim Poole isn't a centrist. The Democrat party has shifted so far to the left, that he appears to be a centrist, relative to distance being the Left and the Right.
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised. One side owns guns. The other side doesn't own guns. It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country. Clean and most likely supported by the citizens. The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore. View Quote You think the next civil war will be assholes lining up on either side of a line and having at it? If you do you know NOTHING about a civil war. Our last "Civil war" really wasn't. It was more a fight against states secession. The next one will be assassins and hyper-violence. You get thought of as a conservative and one night when you and your family are getting out of your car, five men sneak up and beat you and your wife and kids to death, then walk away. Sure you might be a big man, cage fighter, MMA champion with CCW, but me and four of my friends could stomp you to death and you would be lucky to even get a single hit in because you would be hampered by trying to protect your most treasured and fight. Better yet, if one guy walked up with a pistol and surprised you. Guns are a fantastic tool, but in the next civil war are not really that important. Our side is TERRIBLE at being violent for the simple reason that we are typically law abiding. Most liberals see themselves as above the law, especially if you're a Nazi. They don't even see you as human, and could do anything they feel like without any afterthought whatsoever to you, your family, or any possible associations you have. Is your gun going to stop someone from throwing a molotov through your window? LO fucking L. And let's further face facts: The Liberals own law enforcement and are actively using THEM against us as well both actively and through tacit approval of their violence against us. People saying what you did have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about. |
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you guys still haven't realized Pool is a leftist that panders to right wing people as a "red pilled liberal" because it boosts his views and traffic on YT its the same shtick and grift you see from people like candace owens and that gay black "comedian" that charlie kirk parades on stage at his events last year View Quote |
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you guys still haven't realized Pool is a leftist that panders to right wing people as a "red pilled liberal" because it boosts his views and traffic on YT its the same shtick and grift you see from people like candace owens and that gay black "comedian" that charlie kirk parades on stage at his events last year View Quote Call it a shtick all you want, he is red pilling more guys in one episode than you'll do in a lifetime. I'll take it one step further and say he's a bigger asset than most of arfcom ffs. |
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Civil wars don't generally start with the little people or with the average non-governmental citizenry. In general they are caused by irreconcilable splits in the highest levels of government and military. Displeasure among the people can cause protests, riots, insurgencies, and even revolution. But if you wanna talk about civil war then you gotta talk about what's going on at the highest levels of government and military. What's happening amongst the citizenry can have an effect because those up high may gauge their support by it, however, what's going on down low doesn't create or run a civil war. It requires organized governments and their organized militaries fighting each other for exclusive regional or national control. View Quote |
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Quoted: He has stated he is not voting in 2020. He also did not vote in 2016. He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process. Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen. Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies. It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left. View Quote |
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Civil war starts slowly, then quickly. This incident is essentially identical to the Charlottesville deal only with a hell of a lot less provocation on the part of the victims (not justifying that other asshole's murder) Note the disparity in media response, though. View Quote |
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised. One side owns guns. The other side doesn't own guns. It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country. Clean and most likely supported by the citizens. The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore. View Quote |
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What? Lol! You think the next civil war will be assholes lining up on either side of a line and having at it? If you do you know NOTHING about a civil war. Our last "Civil war" really wasn't. It was more a fight against states secession. The next one will be assassins and hyper-violence. You get thought of as a conservative and one night when you and your family are getting out of your car, five men sneak up and beat you and your wife and kids to death, then walk away. Sure you might be a big man, cage fighter, MMA champion with CCW, but me and four of my friends could stomp you to death and you would be lucky to even get a single hit in because you would be hampered by trying to protect your most treasured and fight. Better yet, if one guy walked up with a pistol and surprised you. Guns are a fantastic tool, but in the next civil war are not really that important. Our side is TERRIBLE at being violent for the simple reason that we are typically law abiding. Most liberals see themselves as above the law, especially if you're a Nazi. They don't even see you as human, and could do anything they feel like without any afterthought whatsoever to you, your family, or any possible associations you have. Is your gun going to stop someone from throwing a molotov through your window? LO fucking L. And let's further face facts: The Liberals own law enforcement and are actively using THEM against us as well both actively and through tacit approval of their violence against us. People saying what you did have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised. One side owns guns. The other side doesn't own guns. It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country. Clean and most likely supported by the citizens. The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore. You think the next civil war will be assholes lining up on either side of a line and having at it? If you do you know NOTHING about a civil war. Our last "Civil war" really wasn't. It was more a fight against states secession. The next one will be assassins and hyper-violence. You get thought of as a conservative and one night when you and your family are getting out of your car, five men sneak up and beat you and your wife and kids to death, then walk away. Sure you might be a big man, cage fighter, MMA champion with CCW, but me and four of my friends could stomp you to death and you would be lucky to even get a single hit in because you would be hampered by trying to protect your most treasured and fight. Better yet, if one guy walked up with a pistol and surprised you. Guns are a fantastic tool, but in the next civil war are not really that important. Our side is TERRIBLE at being violent for the simple reason that we are typically law abiding. Most liberals see themselves as above the law, especially if you're a Nazi. They don't even see you as human, and could do anything they feel like without any afterthought whatsoever to you, your family, or any possible associations you have. Is your gun going to stop someone from throwing a molotov through your window? LO fucking L. And let's further face facts: The Liberals own law enforcement and are actively using THEM against us as well both actively and through tacit approval of their violence against us. People saying what you did have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about. |
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Nothing major will happen until the current status quo changes.
The poor will always be around but the middle class and something that affects that would be something else. If the Wuhan virus does here what its doing in China could be a start. |
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Quoted: Of all the things to focus on, you chose his... hat. Okay then. View Quote Been a viewer of Tim pool since his stuff in Sweden. I don’t get GD’s hate for the guy. As far as journalists go he is very good. He presents the stories well and even gets more viewers than some mainstream networks now days. Those who will only listen to people they 100% agree with on everything need to re-examine their lives. Don’t put yourself in an echo chamber. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6n6kDdpME For a long time I was assuming this attitude about CW 2.0/boogaloo/whatever was masturbatory hyperbole on both sides, and just kind of laughed it off. But when someone even as level headed as Tim Pool notices the boiling point rapidly approaching, I start to notice. Watch it from the point of view a centrist would have. Even he's starting to get worried. View Quote He is a propagandist, and not fuckin good at it. Listen carefully to what he says. Think about what he doesn't tell you - like how many actual - really ready to painfully bleed out and die for it, watch their friends and family shot and killed in front of them type Antipanties there are out there? How about the alternative - the DNC is shown to be corrupt and Bern gets burned again - but it is shown that he is fraud too? And these same tool bags learn the other hard truth - the DNC is a private organization and these stoolbags recourse is largely limited to not patronizing the DNC anymore? Then what? Did 1/2 the country do that to them? What if they all find new political freedom by not being constrained by the DNC? Then what? Timmy must get the same play notes as the boomer normie propagandist John Batchelor, who wants you to believe that violent CW is intractable, even pleading with the guest to see it his way. The last ditch effort of the DS is to start a violent CW. This is propaganda to control the mindspace of anyone will listen to the message over and over and over. Remember Bern is a fraud. Here he is at the 2016 DNC convention about to give his concession speech (in advance of the actual vote which is about to take place) when his wife says to him on a hot mic "they don't know your name is being put in the nomination" Jane Sanders Hotmic moment |
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Quoted: He is painful to listen to. He is a propagandist, and not fuckin good at it. Listen carefully to what he says. Think about what he doesn't tell you - like how many actual - really ready to painfully bleed out and die for it, watch their friends and family shot and killed in front of them type Antipanties there are out there? How about the alternative - the DNC is shown to be corrupt and Bern gets burned again - but it is shown that he is fraud too? And these same tool bags learn the other hard truth - the DNC is a private organization and these stoolbags recourse is largely limited to not patronizing the DNC anymore? Then what? Did 1/2 the country do that to them? What if they all find new political freedom by not being constrained by the DNC? Then what? Timmy must get the same play notes as the boomer normie propagandist John Batchelor, who wants you to believe that violent CW is intractable, even pleading with the guest to see it his way. The last ditch effort of the DS is to start a violent CW. This is propaganda to control the mindspace of anyone will listen to the message over and over and over. Remember Bern is a fraud. Here he is at the 2016 DNC convention about to give his concession speech (in advance of the actual vote which is about to take place) when his wife says to him on a hot mic "they don't know your name is being put in the nomination" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTBC6MIzbks View Quote |
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised. One side owns guns. The other side doesn't own guns. It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country. Clean and most likely supported by the citizens. The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore. View Quote |
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Civil wars don't generally start with the little people or with the average non-governmental citizenry. In general they are caused by irreconcilable splits in the highest levels of government and military. Displeasure among the people can cause protests, riots, insurgencies, and even revolution. But if you wanna talk about civil war then you gotta talk about what's going on at the highest levels of government and military. What's happening amongst the citizenry can have an effect because those up high may gauge their support by it, however, what's going on down low doesn't create or run a civil war. It requires organized governments and their organized militaries fighting each other for exclusive regional or national control. View Quote |
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Quoted: He has stated he is not voting in 2020. He also did not vote in 2016. He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process. Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen. Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies. It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left. View Quote I don't buy that he's "controlled opposition", I don't think Clinton Inc. is happy about him. |
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Quoted: I don’t understand the hate for him. If GD ever left the basement and met your average college student they’d equate Tim Pool with a RWDS general. Edit: I guess you can say he’s ‘fake’ in the sense that he concern trolls the left. He wants to keep his viewer base while appearing level headed and non biased but I’m fairly certain he’d be rooting for dead socialists if it came down to it. View Quote |
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Quoted: He thought ear plugs were some type of bullet in Ferguson. It is a holdover from his early days. I find him interesting, because I find that he sees what I see but from a very different political perspective. It reinforces my world view. View Quote |
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Quoted: Do you really think the other side doesn’t own guns or train? Have military experience? Im pretty sure if a civil war started here the leftist billionaires would have zero issues funding a small army. View Quote |
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lol, arfcom fatties wet dream to start shooting something View Quote I am definitely NOT enjoying this. |
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The Russian Revolution started organically at low levels and led to the Russian Civil War. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Civil wars don't generally start with the little people or with the average non-governmental citizenry. In general they are caused by irreconcilable splits in the highest levels of government and military. Displeasure among the people can cause protests, riots, insurgencies, and even revolution. But if you wanna talk about civil war then you gotta talk about what's going on at the highest levels of government and military. What's happening amongst the citizenry can have an effect because those up high may gauge their support by it, however, what's going on down low doesn't create or run a civil war. It requires organized governments and their organized militaries fighting each other for exclusive regional or national control. |
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John Brown Gun Club. All you have to do is look up local Antifa clubs. They all promote firearms ownership and training. They showed up at the VCDL event January 20. Armed. https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dtd2YX_UcAEsZul1.jpg https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virginia-gun-rally.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Which side is that? Because the communists have no shortage of guns, and plenty willing to use those guns to enforce laws that infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms. All you have to do is look up local Antifa clubs. They all promote firearms ownership and training. They showed up at the VCDL event January 20. Armed. https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dtd2YX_UcAEsZul1.jpg https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virginia-gun-rally.jpg |
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There will be no "hot" civil war. Leftists want radical change, the media and entertainment industry supports that. In blue states criminals and violent protestors are mostly free to run amok, government and law enforcement stand idly by, only involving themselves to pick off counter protestors who dare defend themselves. Most of the rest of people just kind of want to stay off the radar and live their lives. They will grumble and bitch but will write the bigger tax check, turn in their guns, get rid of that polluting car for an electric, accept govt healthcare, pay carbon taxes etc. It is a small group in a small group that would be willing to risk it all. Way less then the 3% figure that is oft cited. People are too comfortable and too under control. Now if the economy spirals and many Americans find themselves driven out of their comfy spot, I think there might be more of a chance of it happening. But I fear it would be coming the other way. View Quote Consider that it appears Democrats were engaging in corrupt activities to enrich themselves, and then, when they realized they lost an election, set in motion a soft coup attempt in large measure to protect themselves. It is one of these things that spirals out of control as each side reacts to changing events. Obama and Clinton Inc didn't want to stage a soft coup, they did it because they thought they had to. |
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Ok ... when I show up, who do I shoot at ?
Anybody? That's what I thought. All dressed up and no place to go. |
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Meant to say it's hard to take him seriously. That's all. The guy might be right and the guy might be wrong. I seriously doubt we're headed towards a new civil war however. People are way too comfortable in their lives for that and there's too much to lose. View Quote |
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Quoted: He is painful to listen to. He is a propagandist, and not fuckin good at it. Listen carefully to what he says. Think about what he doesn't tell you - like how many actual - really ready to painfully bleed out and die for it, watch their friends and family shot and killed in front of them type Antipanties there are out there? How about the alternative - the DNC is shown to be corrupt and Bern gets burned again - but it is shown that he is fraud too? And these same tool bags learn the other hard truth - the DNC is a private organization and these stoolbags recourse is largely limited to not patronizing the DNC anymore? Then what? Did 1/2 the country do that to them? What if they all find new political freedom by not being constrained by the DNC? Then what? Timmy must get the same play notes as the boomer normie propagandist John Batchelor, who wants you to believe that violent CW is intractable, even pleading with the guest to see it his way. The last ditch effort of the DS is to start a violent CW. This is propaganda to control the mindspace of anyone will listen to the message over and over and over. Remember Bern is a fraud. Here he is at the 2016 DNC convention about to give his concession speech (in advance of the actual vote which is about to take place) when his wife says to him on a hot mic "they don't know your name is being put in the nomination" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTBC6MIzbks View Quote |
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Seems there are multiple factions itching for a boogaloo. Bernie bros want to put conservatives in gulags and re-education camps per the veritas undercover videos. They also want to burn cities to the ground if Bernie isn’t the democrat nominee. Democrats want to revolt if orange man bad wins, because according to them he can only win by cheating. Patriots want to take out all the gun grabbing politicians and return the country to rule of law and faithful observance of the Constitution. Swamp dwellers/deep staters don’t want to lose their gravy train and power via their bureaucracy. If anyone starts shooting, it is likely everyone will start shooting. It will be a free for all. View Quote |
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Seems there are multiple factions itching for a boogaloo. Bernie bros want to put conservatives in gulags and re-education camps per the veritas undercover videos. They also want to burn cities to the ground if Bernie isn’t the democrat nominee. Democrats want to revolt if orange man bad wins, because according to them he can only win by cheating. Patriots want to take out all the gun grabbing politicians and return the country to rule of law and faithful observance of the Constitution. Swamp dwellers/deep staters don’t want to lose their gravy train and power via their bureaucracy. If anyone starts shooting, it is likely everyone will start shooting. It will be a free for all. View Quote |
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As for Tim Pool, I don't mind listening to his YT vids, but I don't lose sight of the fact that he is still a liberal who will vote liberal despite evidence to the contrary. He's a smart, new era journalist in that he knows there is little to no money in "woke" news so he panders to the right to pay the bills and it works. It comes at a cost to him though, I remember he had a video a few months back of someone attempting to break into his house. I think the vid disappeared, but I have no doubt it was a crazed left winger intent on murdering him.
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Quoted: What? Lol! You think the next civil war will be assholes lining up on either side of a line and having at it? If you do you know NOTHING about a civil war. Our last "Civil war" really wasn't. It was more a fight against states secession. The next one will be assassins and hyper-violence. You get thought of as a conservative and one night when you and your family are getting out of your car, five men sneak up and beat you and your wife and kids to death, then walk away. Sure you might be a big man, cage fighter, MMA champion with CCW, but me and four of my friends could stomp you to death and you would be lucky to even get a single hit in because you would be hampered by trying to protect your most treasured and fight. Better yet, if one guy walked up with a pistol and surprised you. Guns are a fantastic tool, but in the next civil war are not really that important. Our side is TERRIBLE at being violent for the simple reason that we are typically law abiding. Most liberals see themselves as above the law, especially if you're a Nazi. They don't even see you as human, and could do anything they feel like without any afterthought whatsoever to you, your family, or any possible associations you have. Is your gun going to stop someone from throwing a molotov through your window? LO fucking L. And let's further face facts: The Liberals own law enforcement and are actively using THEM against us as well both actively and through tacit approval of their violence against us. People saying what you did have NO FUCKING IDEA what you're talking about. View Quote |
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Lol. Tim Poole isn't a centrist. The Democrat party has shifted so far to the left, that he appears to be a centrist, relative to distance being the Left and the Right. He's a Bernie Bro that thinks Yang and Gillibrand would make better Presidents than Trump. View Quote He's a lefty and very antiwar. I don't think it is that he's centrist. In fact, those farther left seem more sane then the establishment Dems. After all, Rolling Stone has published some good stuff by leftists on the Russia collusion nonsense. It seems to me that there are sane far lefties that are neither establishment nor Antifa. Tim is one of those. |
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Quoted: John Brown Gun Club. All you have to do is look up local Antifa clubs. They all promote firearms ownership and training. They showed up at the VCDL event January 20. Armed. https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dtd2YX_UcAEsZul1.jpg https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virginia-gun-rally.jpg View Quote |
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As for Tim Pool, I don't mind listening to his YT vids, but I don't lose sight of the fact that he is still a liberal who will vote liberal despite evidence to the contrary. He's a smart, new era journalist in that he knows there is little to no money in "woke" news so he panders to the right to pay the bills and it works. It comes at a cost to him though, I remember he had a video a few months back of someone attempting to break into his house. I think the vid disappeared, but I have no doubt it was a crazed left winger intent on murdering him. View Quote |
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I would never call anyone that supports Bernie "level headed."
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I think the only thing keeping it from happening at this point is the lack of a clear, clean, charismatic and articulate leader. View Quote |
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Quoted: John Brown Gun Club. All you have to do is look up local Antifa clubs. They all promote firearms ownership and training. They showed up at the VCDL event January 20. Armed. https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dtd2YX_UcAEsZul1.jpg https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/virginia-gun-rally.jpg View Quote As far as lefties with guns, the John Brown gun club types are a small number of people. It is the government guns that are the real threat. I think the left's organic capability is rather weak, demographically they are a mix-mash of groups that don't get along well and lack fighting capability. Their threat is a mix of their media power, their wealthy elite, their tech companies, and their control of much of the government workforce. If it was a fight between the common folk on both sides they would lose, but they bring in these "elite" parts of our society. The outcome is perhaps impossible to predict, since how things play out could have dramatically different outcomes depending on subtle factors. |
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The fact that he's liberal and about 100% off from me politically is the reason I watch him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As for Tim Pool, I don't mind listening to his YT vids, but I don't lose sight of the fact that he is still a liberal who will vote liberal despite evidence to the contrary. He's a smart, new era journalist in that he knows there is little to no money in "woke" news so he panders to the right to pay the bills and it works. It comes at a cost to him though, I remember he had a video a few months back of someone attempting to break into his house. I think the vid disappeared, but I have no doubt it was a crazed left winger intent on murdering him. |
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Same, I'm sub'd to his channel. I think he's authentic as well and I view him more as a "classical liberal". He himself has stated his views on the 2A have changed because of his discussions about it with those on the right. I hope he swallows the red pill one day though. If he was my neighbor, I'd definitely have a beer with him. View Quote No doubt his opinions have moderated, he found out he was safe around Proud Boys and not safe around Antifa. He clearly understands from experience some things most Democrats don't know/understand. He's not relying upon media lies for his information. |
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I view him as a sane leftist. No doubt his opinions have moderated, he found out he was safe around Proud Boys and not safe around Antifa. He clearly understands from experience some things most Democrats don't know/understand. He's not relying upon media lies for his information. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Same, I'm sub'd to his channel. I think he's authentic as well and I view him more as a "classical liberal". He himself has stated his views on the 2A have changed because of his discussions about it with those on the right. I hope he swallows the red pill one day though. If he was my neighbor, I'd definitely have a beer with him. No doubt his opinions have moderated, he found out he was safe around Proud Boys and not safe around Antifa. He clearly understands from experience some things most Democrats don't know/understand. He's not relying upon media lies for his information. |
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Don't forget the Socialist Rifle Association who in true Soviet copy style fashion even moniker their name after the NRA. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Screenshot_20190725-131755_Facebook-1029510.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Screenshot_20190725-131439_Facebook-1029506.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65378/Screenshot_20190728-124208_Facebook-1033311.jpg View Quote I have no way to prove it of course, but I'd say with confidence, if we wanted to talk about number of small arms per "side" as if it was the deciding factor, that "our side" has far more guns and shooters to bear them. But guns per side is likely not what would win or lose anything during this hypothetical CW2. |
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Quoted: I'm not saying this is something to be ignored, but those groups are really small, much like the moonbat beer belly "militias" the media loves to focus on. I have no way to prove it of course, but I'd say with confidence, if we wanted to talk about number of small arms per "side" as if it was the deciding factor, that "our side" has far more guns and shooters to bear them. But guns per side is likely not what will win or lose anything. View Quote The commie gun clubs are small. But more significantly the left is hampered by demographics, since they are made up by a mix of wealthy white liberals, single women, and minorities. Blacks may vote Democrat, but they are not interested in the insane politics of the white liberal elite, for one example. |
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