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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:27:19 AM EDT
[#1]
In the best worst case scenario, they are all dead now.
I do hope someone is able to find out their demise either way it could've been, although depressurization at depth is not likely to leave much but fragments that will blend into the ocean floor. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:38:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. Nothing at 12500 feet... |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:38:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole operation sounds like a shit show, so possibly the sonar malfunctioned, to. Maybe Windows 10 BSODed topside, and by the time they rebooted, the sub had drifted out of communication range. My bet is that 1- The viewport failed, 2- The thing imploded, 3- The above happened, and they’re drifting somewhere, perhaps even on the surface (unless they have a beacon for such a scenario?), 4- They had a fire and they’ve all burned or succumbed to smoke. But only #2 or 3 seemingly would explain being lost to sonar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? My bet is that 1- The viewport failed, 2- The thing imploded, 3- The above happened, and they’re drifting somewhere, perhaps even on the surface (unless they have a beacon for such a scenario?), 4- They had a fire and they’ve all burned or succumbed to smoke. But only #2 or 3 seemingly would explain being lost to sonar. Tangled/caught up in Titanic wreckage is a possibility or lost power and is no where in the area due to floating away in the current.. a 6kt current would put them miles and miles away into the atlantic. No chance to being located if thats the case. but still doesnt explain why the ballast wasnt dropped if that was the case since they can manually drop the ballast and rise. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought they tracked this thing from the surface with side scan sonar completely through the mission. That’s how they let the crew know where to drive the thing to end up at the right spot. I keep hearing they lost comms with the sub but no one brings up the side scan tracking. Even with no comms they should know exactly where it is via the side scan sonar tracking. If the ship lost the tracking via sonar AND the comms at the same time then it likely imploded. What an I missing here? Nothing You got things right. Looking for it is a HUGE waste of money and time and the folks at OceanGate coffins know it. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:41:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tangled/caught up in Titanic wreckage is a possibility They didn’t make it down to the titanic, lost comms halfway there… |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:44:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They didn’t make it down to the titanic, lost comms halfway there… Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tangled/caught up in Titanic wreckage is a possibility They didn’t make it down to the titanic, lost comms halfway there… that doesnt mean they didnt make it down there, they have lost comms many times during many of the trips down. and they were close to being on bottom when they lost comms.. and hour and 45 mins into a 2 hour decent. 15 mins away is not far |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:46:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 6:53:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tangled/caught up in Titanic wreckage is a possibility or lost power and is no where in the area due to floating away in the current.. a 6kt current would put them miles and miles away into the atlantic. No chance to being located if thats the case. but still doesnt explain why the ballast wasnt dropped if that was the case since they can manually drop the ballast and rise. It had a catastrophic implosion.  The Abyss - Lt. Coffey's death |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:00:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was a submarine nuke   |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:01:15 AM EDT
[#10]
Both tweeted by the coast guard within the past few minutes.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:02:50 AM EDT
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My vote goes towards implosion given the time frame and no emergency floatation deployed. If that's the case, at least one if not both end caps should fall within a couple miles of the main wreck, and be fairly easy to find if looked for soon. I'm sure one or both of the two massively rich family's lawyers would be wanting that found asap, no matter what a waiver said or cost of hiring a vessel to locate it.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, I'd like to retract my theory of external snags ripping cabling out; it appears all the photos going around are the early preproduction versions where they were testing things at shallow depths; the company posted this a few days ago; you can see how they've put a fairing over everything now. https://i.imgur.com/JPgHNSu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/t1Vq5te.jpg Is that a lifting eye in the 2nd picture? |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:04:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck no it's not. I've been doing nothing but scouring for memes laughing about these dead billionaires the last couple days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck no it's not. I've been doing nothing but scouring for memes laughing about these dead billionaires the last couple days. That’s actually pretty damn sad. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:05:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tangled/caught up in Titanic wreckage is a possibility or lost power and is no where in the area due to floating away in the current.. a 6kt current would put them miles and miles away into the atlantic. No chance to being located if thats the case. but still doesnt explain why the ballast wasnt dropped if that was the case since they can manually drop the ballast and rise. It had a catastrophic implosion.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhBPF4yfkIyes most very likely |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:05:38 AM EDT
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Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:08:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apropos of that, they're reforming the company as Watergate... |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:12:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr Imagine power failure and you sink. Pitch black and it's cold. Someone powers up their cell phone flashlight app and you just see a giant eye (or eyes) out the single window. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:15:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:16:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both tweeted by the coast guard within the past few minutes.
Good development. My opinion, it will be found quickly or it won’t be found at all. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:19:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr Great, now I have to look up Jormungandr....with the two little dots though. I do hope that the people in the sub didn't suffer. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:20:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr The Kraken ? ? ? 
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:20:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine power failure and you sink. Pitch black and it's cold. Someone powers up their cell phone flashlight app and you just see a giant eye (or eyes) out the single window. It could be worse. You could see a giant pair of tonsils as it is swallowing you.. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:20:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s actually pretty damn sad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck no it's not. I've been doing nothing but scouring for memes laughing about these dead billionaires the last couple days. That’s actually pretty damn sad. Yup, I bet the left is doing the same thing. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:21:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing at 12500 feet... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. Nothing at 12500 feet... Just read up on the Thresher. Was operating at 1300-2000' when it imploded. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:22:53 AM EDT
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Searching the seafloor in complete darkness other than a flood light? I think they figured, we're here, we might as well get some stick time in.
That's beyond a needle in a haystack. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:23:22 AM EDT
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My guess is one of 2 scenarios.
A- implosion B- total loss of power |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:23:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr The Kraken ? ? ? https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/c/c5/King_Kraken.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20220616094322 I called it pages back. Kraken wrapped it up |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:25:27 AM EDT
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Took a break, 10 pages later, no new cool memes.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: although depressurization at depth is not likely to leave much but fragments that will blend into the ocean floor. Not exactly depressurization... 
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:30:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing at 12500 feet... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder if the USN has any subs in the area to help. Nothing at 12500 feet... The fact that legitimate 9-figure .gov submarines can’t go to the depth at hand underscores how fucking crazy this was. Hey, let’s skip Mars and go to Jupiter in our homemade space shuttle! |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:32:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is one of 2 scenarios. A- implosion B- total loss of power my guess is total loss of power then implosion. 
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:32:32 AM EDT
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O2 Time 0:00
RIP |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:33:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryTrump team finally released it. The woke folks at OceanGate were the first victims. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:35:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great, now I have to look up Jormungandr....with the two little dots though. I do hope that the people in the sub didn't suffer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Going out on a limb here….. megalodon. Giant squid. Unknown sea monster. Godzilla. Jörmungandr Great, now I have to look up Jormungandr....with the two little dots though. I do hope that the people in the sub didn't suffer. Let's hope it wasn't Jömungandr! encircling the Earth (Midgard) and biting his own tail, an example of an ouroboros. As a result of it surrounding Midgard (the Earth) it is referred to as the World Serpent. When it releases its tail, Ragnarök (the final battle of the world) will begin. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:38:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:39:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: O2 Time 0:00 RIP Been dead for days. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:41:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's hope it wasn't Jömungandr! encircling the Earth (Midgard) and biting his own tail, an example of an ouroboros. As a result of it surrounding Midgard (the Earth) it is referred to as the World Serpent. When it releases its tail, Ragnarök (the final battle of the world) will begin. That's why it's feasible that it is in fact, Jörmungandr |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:43:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:44:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not exactly depressurization... More like the ocean’s version of entropy. Just mother ocean taking back what belonged to her. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:46:46 AM EDT
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So they're JUST NOW getting an ROV down there? Unbelievable. It's going to be sad if it turns out they've been sitting by the wreck all this time. Remember, they were just 15 minutes from it when they lost comms. Sigh. Well, it's over now, for sure.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:47:03 AM EDT
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The old people on my Facebook feed getting upset about the memes is pretty humorous
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:48:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:51:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A guy who's been on the submersible said the inside temp of the sub is around 32-34 degrees when they are down at the Titanic. Outside water temp is around 29 degrees. People usually wearing light clothes and go barefoot on the submersible since it's only an 8-10 hr trip. That’s highly illogical. An inside temperature of 32-34 degrees for more than 5 minutes is something you dress for. You don’t wear shorts and flip flops for 10 hours at those temps. One way or the other that report isn’t correct. Either the inside temps are higher or they wear more clothes. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:52:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Middle-aged white male CEO of the sub company says "Middle-aged white men need not apply." In a Twist of irony he's one of the people on this missing sub  Woopsie This. Self hating mentally ill liberal. His elaborate suicide is a gain for society. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:52:49 AM EDT
[#45]
If they lost power, managed to dump ballast, and surface with no coms they could have suffocated on the surface since the thing doesn't have a hatch. Plausible or not?
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:55:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they lost power, managed to dump ballast, and surface with no coms they could have suffocated on the surface since the thing doesn't have a hatch. Plausible or not? Yep. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:56:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if there's even anything left to find. Do we know how carbon fiber reacts to this kind of implosion at these pressures? A maelstrom of molecules suddenly accelerated from zero to XXX, pressure combustion... there may be nothing left but carbon fiber slivers and a few motor windings. I do know that filament wound scuba tanks have high pressure ratings (5,000 psi?) but poor service life compared with steel or even aluminum. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:56:27 AM EDT
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Plot twist: the trouble was not caused by the shortcuts taken in building the sub but by an unrelated external factor such as getting tangled in a fishing net, snagged on the titanic, suicidal passenger, etc. ocean gate is vindicated when they find the sub and they continue building tin cans and people continue paying for rides.
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:56:43 AM EDT
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Sooo... moving on. Who should star in the made for TV documentary about this company?
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Posted: 6/22/2023 7:58:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dork. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was a submarine nuke Somebody needed to mind the teakettle and row the boat. A real nerd would remember the fast fission non-escape probability equation in the six factor formula. |
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