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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:02:55 PM EDT
[#1]
This is Trump fucking Nancy out of the ridiculous USPS funding and mail-in voter fraud schemes contained in her bill.
There is no reason to pass that nonsense if he addresses the key points that people actually care about. Everyone complaining about the cost is missing the fact that we are far beyond that point already. Focus on the play for control that is happening right now instead. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is Trump fucking Nancy out of the ridiculous USPS funding and mail-in voter fraud schemes contained in her bill. There is no reason to pass that nonsense if he addresses the key points that people actually care about. Everyone complaining about the cost is missing the fact that we are far beyond that point already. Focus on the play for control that is happening right now instead. Using that logic, we're far beyond the point of being able to deport every illegal so we should not only just stop deporting them but allow them all unfettered access. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:10:49 PM EDT
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So this will be dragged out until October and then no one will get a penny until big Joe is in the oval office and he just starts throwing money.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:14:53 PM EDT
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Does anyone actually believe the debt will ever be paid off? Never! Just spend until the collapse.. There will be a world wide reset one day and I hope I'm 6 feet under before it happens, because it will not be pretty.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True for gasoline, food, homes (which are about 20x but considering better quality in some ways but not others like chipboard instead of plywood so at least 10x). Even China shoes are 10x compared to old times USA. Car maintenance and parts are likely 10x. Cars and electronics being more of the exceptions. But the big life long expenses are at least 10x. Yes, my point though was just saying the dollar is 1/10th of its former worth does not tell the whole story. Those one time huge purchases for modern conveniences are now cheaper and more reliable than before. The poor are ultimately the ones that pay for reckless spending, but no one could argue the poor are worse off in 2020 then they were in 1975 |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:28:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone actually believe the debt will ever be paid off? Never! Just spend until the collapse.. There will be a world wide reset one day and I hope I'm 6 feet under before it happens, because it will not be pretty. You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. That was when he was just pandering to idiots. Now that he has a staff of people smarter than him advising him he realizes not only is that impossible but it is undesirable. Debt is a valuable tool. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I already have a Pepsi seiko Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awe yissss one step closer to a GMT Pepsi, red/black, all black or Batman? BatMan first Pepsi all the way! I already have a Pepsi seiko Unless you’ve done a mod, you have a 70-30 split on your Pepsi. Needs to be a full 50-50 for it to count. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:35:52 PM EDT
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I would be happy to get some of my tax money back again.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:40:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was when he was just pandering to idiots. Now that he has a staff of people smarter than him advising him he realizes not only is that impossible but it is undesirable. Debt is a valuable tool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. That was when he was just pandering to idiots. Now that he has a staff of people smarter than him advising him he realizes not only is that impossible but it is undesirable. Debt is a valuable tool. So is a wheelbarrow...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So is a wheelbarrow... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/zimbabwe-billet_wheelbarrow_money_jpg-1546606.JPG Dave Ramsey touched you didn't he? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dave Ramsey touched you didn't he? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So is a wheelbarrow... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/zimbabwe-billet_wheelbarrow_money_jpg-1546606.JPG Dave Ramsey touched you didn't he? 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:58:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SEND NODZ That's what he's doing basically. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 8:58:58 PM EDT
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And now "conservatives" are embracing Keynesian economics.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:04:49 PM EDT
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Do I need NOD's, I really want a new camera for my business, but if I need NOD's I will get them.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:04:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dave Ramsey touched you didn't he? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So is a wheelbarrow... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/zimbabwe-billet_wheelbarrow_money_jpg-1546606.JPG Dave Ramsey touched you didn't he? Who? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:06:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who? It is OK. You are the victim here. You aren't alone. We aren't judging you. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:09:29 PM EDT
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Need a long range optic and for my WOA upper i just ordered
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is OK. You are the victim here. You aren't alone. We aren't judging you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who? It is OK. You are the victim here. You aren't alone. We aren't judging you. I have no idea what you're talking about. I have less debt than the median US household but a decently substantial amount however, unlike Uncle Sugar, I manage mine quite well. In fact, I've actually increased it somewhat recently to obtain some expensive hard goods of value at current prices to hedge against Trump and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats killing the value of the dollar. Last I checked I'm running at about 30% debt to income, as opposed to FedGov's 137%. Dave Ramsey is for people who lack self control or intelligence. You know, kind of like the Federal Government... |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:18:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: do some of you have problems with reading or comprehension? the important part is.... DEMOCRATS ARE HOLDING THIS UP! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2917/Trumpimage-20200814-001_jpg-1546016.JPG If you actually believe that. The really important thing is that there used to be a time when being a Republican meant being fiscally conservative. Oh my have times changed when conservatives, Republicans, or whatever name they are called in the era of DJT are now praising the passing out of money left and right and supporting the POTUS in doing so. I wonder if these same sentiments will be the case if a Democrat does the same thing. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea what you're talking about. I have less debt than the median US household but a decently substantial amount however, unlike Uncle Sugar, I manage mine quite well. In fact, I've actually increased it somewhat recently to obtain some expensive hard goods of value at current prices to hedge against Trump and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats killing the value of the dollar. Last I checked I'm running at about 30% debt to income, as opposed to FedGov's 137%. Dave Ramsey is for people who lack self control or intelligence. You know, kind of like the Federal Government... The federal government seems to be chugging along just fine. As is Amazon and a bunch of other companies. You are using debt to buy highly speculative materials. Your risk is much higher. I thought you didn't know who Dave Ramsey was? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:21:57 PM EDT
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Fuck socialism and fuck Trump if he goes through with this. I’ve never voted for socialism, and I won’t start now.
The state governors ruined their economies 100% by their own choice and by their own “mandates”. The states can fix their economic problems that they solely created by themselves. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The really important thing is that there used to be a time when being a Republican meant being fiscally conservative. When? Unless I'm missing someone I think that you have to go back to Warren G. Harding. EDIT: Fiscal conservatives like Ron Paul have existed for decades but never had any real influence and are usually drummed out of the party one way or another. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:28:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The federal government seems to be chugging along just fine. As is Amazon and a bunch of other companies. You are using debt to buy highly speculative materials. Your risk is much higher. I thought you didn't know who Dave Ramsey was? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have no idea what you're talking about. I have less debt than the median US household but a decently substantial amount however, unlike Uncle Sugar, I manage mine quite well. In fact, I've actually increased it somewhat recently to obtain some expensive hard goods of value at current prices to hedge against Trump and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats killing the value of the dollar. Last I checked I'm running at about 30% debt to income, as opposed to FedGov's 137%. Dave Ramsey is for people who lack self control or intelligence. You know, kind of like the Federal Government... The federal government seems to be chugging along just fine. As is Amazon and a bunch of other companies. You are using debt to buy highly speculative materials. Your risk is much higher. I thought you didn't know who Dave Ramsey was?  I can assure you, what I'm buying is far less speculative than votes. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:29:14 PM EDT
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Quote History I wonder how many making excuses,would be hammering hillary about spending if she was the one doing it? Including many Republicans in the House and Senate. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:31:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how many making excuses,would be hammering hillary about spending if she was the one doing it? Including many Republicans in the House and Senate. Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how many making excuses,would be hammering hillary about spending if she was the one doing it? Including many Republicans in the House and Senate. The earlier post about outrage over Obamaphones pretty well summed it up. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:31:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:32:16 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/IllYnd6.gif I can assure you, what I'm buying is far less speculative than votes. They still have a near perfect monopoly of power and have people convinced that there are only 2 options while enriching themselves and their benefactors at our expense. They are doing well. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:32:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? So you can continue to watch its value erode while just sitting there? Buying a hard asset like NODs or ammo is actually a much smarter course of action. Even putting it into the market to offset some of the loss it's going to experience. In a savings account with its already atrocious interest rate, that Trump is pushing to drop even lower, is just about the worst thing you could do with it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Straight to the saving acct. Why? So you can continue to watch its value erode while just sitting there? Buying a hard asset like NODs or ammo is actually a much smarter course of action. Even putting it into the market to offset some of the loss it's going to experience. In a savings account with its already atrocious interest rate, that Trump is pushing to drop even lower, is just about the worst thing you could do with it. I remember Trump bitching about the low interest rates under obama hurting savers-then he gets in and wants them almost 0. Almost laughable if we weren't getting screwed. 'Course it makes the stock market look good,since there is almost nowhere else to put your money to get a return.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:34:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does anyone actually believe the debt will ever be paid off? Never! Just spend until the collapse.. There will be a world wide reset one day and I hope I'm 6 feet under before it happens, because it will not be pretty. You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. Yeah,he said a lot of things. As we have learned over the years,talk is cheap. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:36:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That was when he was just pandering to idiots. Now that he has a staff of people smarter than him advising him he realizes not only is that impossible but it is undesirable. Debt is a valuable tool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You should go back in the archives to 2015-2016 when Trump was campaigning on completely eliminating the national debt in 8 years. That was when he was just pandering to idiots. Now that he has a staff of people smarter than him advising him he realizes not only is that impossible but it is undesirable. Debt is a valuable tool. Yep,so is stringing along the pro gun people with lots of sweet whispers in the ear. I am eagerly awaiting the 2nd Amendment Coalition 2.0 coming out any day now. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:38:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And now "conservatives" are embracing Keynesian economics. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:39:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryIt's either too late or too soon. Cannot tell... |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:39:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BatMan first Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Awe yissss one step closer to a GMT Pepsi, red/black, all black or Batman? BatMan first 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:40:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And now "conservatives" are embracing Keynesian economics. "You don't understand how politics work" "Trump is playing 4D chess we little people don't understand" "Trust the Republicans" "Sorry your girl lost" You have to support the Team no matter what.Bigger government,more spending,and gun control are OK if it's Team R doing it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:43:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have to support the Team no matter what.Bigger government,more spending,and gun control are OK if it's Team R doing it because Team D would do it worse. Forgot that last part. 
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And now "conservatives" are embracing Keynesian economics. LOL O/T-I picked up a bunch of American Rifleman magazines from 1934 and 1935 quite a few years back,and was flipping through them again. They had Florida listed on the legislation page wanting to ban automatic weapons to anyone but the cops and military-the NRA supported it.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:45:22 PM EDT
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I dont think the economy can sustain this insane spending, but if the US is the worlds reserve currency maybe for a while longer? What I know is that the pain is going to be so much that limbs and everything will be tossed into a dumpster fire. Central banking is a building block to socialism. Socialism means control over people and all monetary things. Then people die cause ya know everything is wrong and those that be in power just did not get it right.
Fucking socialism has killed hundreds of millions maybe a lot more, the US stands alone in the world and when it has been subverted, infiltrated, spied upon by so called allies to have those countries progressive ideologies while taking everything from the US. Trump literally stopped the Obama's "progressive" dream. US first. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:50:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep,so is stringing along the pro gun people with lots of sweet whispers in the ear. I am eagerly awaiting the 2nd Amendment Coalition 2.0 coming out any day now. He lost me at grab them by the pussy. It has been interesting to watch the morally righteous right embrace a morally bankrupt candidate though. Now we have threads where people justify stealing $80 from people for their political views. Good times. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 9:57:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He lost me at grab them by the pussy. It has been interesting to watch the morally righteous right embrace a morally bankrupt candidate though. Now we have threads where people justify stealing $80 from people for their political views. Good times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep,so is stringing along the pro gun people with lots of sweet whispers in the ear. I am eagerly awaiting the 2nd Amendment Coalition 2.0 coming out any day now. He lost me at grab them by the pussy. It has been interesting to watch the morally righteous right embrace a morally bankrupt candidate though. Now we have threads where people justify stealing $80 from people for their political views. Good times. Please share with the rest of us what candidate we should vote for in this upcoming election. Please ensure that it is someone that is morally perfect, you know, someone without sin. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont think the economy can sustain this insane spending, but if the US is the worlds reserve currency maybe for a while longer? What I know is that the pain is going to be so much that limbs and everything will be tossed into a dumpster fire. Central banking is a building block to socialism. Socialism means control over people and all monetary things. Then people die cause ya know everything is wrong and those that be in power just did not get it right. Fucking socialism has killed hundreds of millions maybe a lot more, the US stands alone in the world and when it has been subverted, infiltrated, spied upon by so called allies to have those countries progressive ideologies while taking everything from the US. Trump literally stopped the Obama's "progressive" dream. US first. I'm so old,I remember when the debt hit 1 TRILLION dollars. Turned me into a frugal prepper (along with family and family friends). I mean,how long could we go on? They are all gone,and there is no end in sight for where it tops out at. What's another couple Trillion in the big scheme of things?? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:03:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Forgot that last part. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You have to support the Team no matter what.Bigger government,more spending,and gun control are OK if it's Team R doing it because Team D would do it worse. Forgot that last part. Good fix! ETA-I don't know how I forgot that,since have been hearing that for freakin' decades..."Hey,let's elect pro gun Republican pataki and get rid of that anti gun cuomo (current governors Dad for you young uns).Yay,we got pataki in! Wait,why is pataki pushing for and signing a State AWB he wrote?? Yeah,I guess it probably would have been worse under cuomo." And that's how carguym14 ended up in Iowa.
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:16:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm so old,I remember when the debt hit 1 TRILLION dollars. Turned me into a frugal prepper (along with family and family friends). I mean,how long could we go on? They are all gone,and there is no end in sight for where it tops out at. What's another couple Trillion in the big scheme of things?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont think the economy can sustain this insane spending, but if the US is the worlds reserve currency maybe for a while longer? What I know is that the pain is going to be so much that limbs and everything will be tossed into a dumpster fire. Central banking is a building block to socialism. Socialism means control over people and all monetary things. Then people die cause ya know everything is wrong and those that be in power just did not get it right. Fucking socialism has killed hundreds of millions maybe a lot more, the US stands alone in the world and when it has been subverted, infiltrated, spied upon by so called allies to have those countries progressive ideologies while taking everything from the US. Trump literally stopped the Obama's "progressive" dream. US first. I'm so old,I remember when the debt hit 1 TRILLION dollars. Turned me into a frugal prepper (along with family and family friends). I mean,how long could we go on? They are all gone,and there is no end in sight for where it tops out at. What's another couple Trillion in the big scheme of things?? The light on that tunnel is growing brighter. Trees don’t grow to the sky. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont think the economy can sustain this insane spending, but if the US is the worlds reserve currency maybe for a while longer? What I know is that the pain is going to be so much that limbs and everything will be tossed into a dumpster fire. Central banking is a building block to socialism. Socialism means control over people and all monetary things. Then people die cause ya know everything is wrong and those that be in power just did not get it right. Fucking socialism has killed hundreds of millions maybe a lot more, the US stands alone in the world and when it has been subverted, infiltrated, spied upon by so called allies to have those countries progressive ideologies while taking everything from the US. Trump literally stopped the Obama's "progressive" dream. US first. The big test is how we do vs the rest of the world. Our GDP is much less reliant on tourism than most of the world so we have that going for us. However, it appears they were smart enough to embrace masks and shut shit downs before their cases got out of control. We chose greed early on and are now paying for it with cases and death. Only time will tell but it is looking like their damage will be minor and temporary while ours will be large and permanent. This looks like the opposite of WWII. We are going to need more aid to offset our significantly higher damage and they will likely turn into the suppliers of that aid since their damage was far less severe. Fortunately we started out with a significant superiority on the world stage so we have resources to sacrifice. But then again so did they after WWII. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:16:25 PM EDT
[#45]
Evergreen post.
We are all going to be millionaires. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:19:34 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please share with the rest of us what candidate we should vote for in this upcoming election. Please ensure that it is someone that is morally perfect, you know, someone without sin. That option is gone. You have your choice and have owned the corruption upon yourselves in the process. The consequences are yours to live with. |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:19:44 PM EDT
[#47]
If they keep this up every 6 months I’ll be debt free in a couple of years. Woo hoo!
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:22:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not? Because Ontario is in.....Canada? |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:23:04 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: YO! YO! YO! Peeps in da Hood be like... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/30264/Second_Stimulus_Check_jpg-1546694.JPG LOL |
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Posted: 8/14/2020 10:25:43 PM EDT
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What an amazing bit of nonsocialism that surely won't have any economic aftershocks
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