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Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:28:32 PM EST
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McCain's 'war record' wasn't all that great, either.  He fucked up more than any non-senator's son would be allowed to, and then fucked up big & got captured.  He refused to defect, but didn't exactly accomplish anything but serve as lesser propaganda for the VK until his release.  Merely suffering does not make one a hero.
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McCain's 'war record' wasn't all that great, either.  He fucked up more than any non-senator's son would be allowed to, and then fucked up big & got captured.  He refused to defect, but didn't exactly accomplish anything but serve as lesser propaganda for the VK until his release.  Merely suffering does not make one a hero.
I will take Admiral Stockdales word for it on McCains war record.

CORONADO, Calif. -- I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCain's politicalenemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader"instability" caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.

In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to theGeorge W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCain's "weaknesses." As Itold that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.

And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of aman who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left legbroken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.

He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two yearsearlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discoveredthat his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offerthat, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, nostrings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
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Trump, among other low-life politicians attacked McCains war record. A war-record vouched-out by Medal of Honor recipient Admiral James Stockdale. Link

Stockdale vouched McCain. End of  story. Trump, a Democrat-funding low-life liar had no right to attack McCains war record.

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He then parlayed those experiences into a lucrative career rife with graft and betrayal, crowing on about moral authority all the while.  Fuck his hell-burning ass.
Trump parlayed his prostitute-paying, Democrat-paying business career into  a political career rife with broken campaign promises, paid-off prostitutes, and an exploding deficit.

McCains *political* record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective. But, frankly, neither can Trumps, "take the guns first," political record...
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wow, that statement is unbelievable. Border security seems to stop at the border with him now.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:31:22 PM EST
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Trump promised to, "Lock her up! Lock her up!" put Hillary in prison... Trump lied to get elected.

Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare... Trump lied to get elected.

Trump promised to balance the budget, and eliminate deficit spending, and pay-off the deficit... Trump lied to get elected.

Trump promised to increase gun rights... Trump lied to get elected.

Trump promised that Mexico would pay for the border wall... Trump lied to get elected.

Trump has told more blatant lies to get elected. More than any other president in your or my lifetimes...

Lol, rofl.

Trump was a Democrat-funding Democrat...

I think some of the folks who support Trumps short-fence-for-amnesty plan are Democrats... because it is Democrats who will be winning if Trump gets what he wants...

I cannot agree more. Trumps only viable accomplishment was his SCOTUS nominations... Using Romneys SCOTUS nominees from 2012...

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Where does your unrequited love for Romney come from?  Are you a Mormon?
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I think it was a foregone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against Trumpcare, he hated Trump from day one plus he was a nutjob in his later years. And yes it was a failure on Trump's part but not entirely his fault either. Just look at the speech he gave yesterday, it was very middle ground/compromise and Democrats said NO before he was finished. The whole situation is asinine and you'd have to be irrational to blame Trump for it.
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If that were the case... And do you think that McCains hatred for Trump had anything to do with Trumps attacks on McCains war record? If that were the case, and it was a forgone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against it...

Then when Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, he should have had a back-up plan to McCain.

As far as I can see, Trumps plan was, "I am going to attack McCain personally. I am going to attack McCains Medal-of-Honor-recipient (Stockdale) defended war record... That will get McCaini to support me!"

As far as I can see, that is about as far as Trumps plan on over-turning Obamcare actually got...

That plan sucked.

Either that  was his plan, or his plan was for it to fail, and then blame others for its failure...

Either way, Trump didn't keep his campaign promise...

Leadership is blaming others for failure -Trump 2020.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:34:28 PM EST
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The wall works so well that California is going to start voting Republican...

A wall  is meaningless when employers can get droves of visas to bring them here, and there is zero accountability if they go back...

The "wall" around the Vatican is not a short fence.

And the Vatican is not bringing folks in without accountability if they leave or not.

You are trying to defend a relatively short fence --that won't really protect the border-- in exchange for DACA??-?? In exchange for citizenship??-??

Massive evidence that employers bring droves of immigrants here for work, and they don't leave. FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS!

Massive evidence  that  the illegals here have no intention of  leaving, and are out-breeding us in droves... FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS! BUILD THE SHORT FENCE, GIVE THE DREAMERS RIGHTS, ALL PROBLEMS ARE FIXED!

The leftist talking point is that "dreamers" should become citizens... Trump is giving them what they want...

We (conservatives) wanted Hillary put in prison, Mexico to pay for the wall, and Obamcare to get over-turned... What  we are getting is a deal for dreamers, and more Democrat-funding Fed LE...
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They are not bringing "immigrants" here to work.  Illegal aliens are not immigrants.
A wall would funnel this scum into controlled checkpoints. Where they could be rounded up for deportation.
You just fucking lie, reference Leftist sources like the Washington Post, and make shit up as you go along.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:35:24 PM EST
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Every link I have posted... From Trumps DHS on down... All jive...

They bring them here each year. A large portion of them don't leave, then they bring  more the next year... On and on. It adds up... It has been adding up.

It is correct to say that the majority of illegals in the US entered the country legally... I do not know how it is possible to argue with those facts...

It is also correct to say that Trumps relatively short border fence --that he is bargaining away conservative ideals with (deals for citizenship and dreamers)-- won't solve the immigration crisis.

If the  budget was balanced.

If the deal did not include more Fed LE.

If the deal did not include deficit spending.

If the deal included targeting businesses that bring-in illegals... And if the deal included kicking illegals off welfare.

I would support the wall (short fence).

But... Here is where we are at. The deal includes a lot of things I do not like. The wall itself is harmless, except that it is an expensive use of deficit spending.. Build the wall! But not in exchange for more Fed LE, not with deficit spending, and not with deals for illegals already here...
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Your links are bullshit.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:36:19 PM EST
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Point 1 applies to legal immigrants; your plan starts with blanket amnesty  
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Get every illegal an Id  card.  A felony if it is not on their body.

Set a time limit  to start naturalization, and a time to finish.

Expulsion if either condition is not met.

A heavy tax to be paid while not a citizen.

Zero welfare in any form.  Zero dollars flowing to support foreign families.

Zero anchor babies, before or after implementation.

Secure the border in a phased plan starting with heavy armed patrols while building a real wall, not silly fences for show.

Put mobile forts based on mining truck chassis along the border augmented with aerial surveillance and fast armed patrols in between.  Space no more than 100 miles apart to start.  Plug  every inch of the border.

Sanction the Mexicans for providing advice and training materials instructing Mexicans and no doubt Central Americans on the processes to exploit the largess of US taxpayers.

Get the Mexican government in court to enforce asylum laws.

Enforce US labor laws with heavy fines for "careless" employment.

Expel criminals.  Execute the rapists and killers, and make that an option for identity theft.
Point 1 applies to legal immigrants; your plan starts with blanket amnesty  
True. An ID for illegal aliens validates their presence here.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:37:15 PM EST
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Why is every thread that Kangaroo posts in become a spam posting advertisement for mental illness?  Jesus Christ he makes every thread un readable.
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Watch the, "take the guns first" Trump supporters/puppets. Watch them closely...

Before the election: "Trump is going to over-turn Obamcare, put Hillary in Prison, make Mexico fund the wall through remittances. IF YOU SAY TRUMP IS LYING YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!"

Now: "If you think Trump should have kept his campaign promises, YOU ARE CRAZY!"

Mental illness... Thinking Trumps border wall (short fence) plan (which now  includes DACA amnesty) is going to "secure the border."

Mental illness... Thinking Trumps criminalizing bumpstock ownership is not going to put a gun owner in prison.

Mental illness... Thinking that Trump  is going to try to  make a basic effort at keeping his campaign promises...

Mental illness... Blaming everyone else but Trump for Trumps failures...
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:39:39 PM EST
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lol at this fucking blowhard
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:39:55 PM EST
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McCains political record can't really be defended.

Same as Trumps poor negotiation skills, and his failure after failure campaign promises...

McCain is more of a hero --based on his war record, which Trump attacked-- than Trump will ever be...
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You apply hero to a guy like McCain simply because he got captured.
A lot of American servicemen have been captured in battle in this country's history. McCain is the only one I can think of who built a specious political career out of it.
McCain was as dirty as they got. "Hero" my ass.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:41:15 PM EST
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There's not old posts of yours around here cheering Trump and bragging about how he's gonna do mass deportations, or lock up Hillary, or all the other shit he promised...are there?  Or if so, were you just joking?  During 2016, a lot of Trump's supporters sure seemed dead serious, especially with how they shouted down anyone who hedged like you're doing today.

Trump's beat back the left so hard we're gonna have a full-on socialist nominee running for Democrats by 2020 in an election Republicans can no longer win.  Fuck, not even Hillary was such a terrifyingly steep decline as that.

Trump really did "blow up the political system" as I remember lots of morons cheering for in 2016.  Our last checks on federal and DNC power fall like dominoes.  It appears socialist control is what will come out of those ashes...just as many Trump skeptics predicted.

So everything is really moot, now.  If you save money, it will be expropriated in the coming decades.  Your house & car will be made unaffordable for you.  Every mechanism that allows you to persist without relying on fedgov/DNC will be systematically attacked & made illegal.

Trump didn't work out.  The only question left, is where to go next?  The US is probably no longer a good place to stick around for working men under age 30, and the Democrats haven't yet made it illegal to abandon ship.
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By your standard who would have stemmed the tide?
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My guess is that Juni4ling was a legitimate account that had the creds stolen and turned into a Bot. Seriously, you look at the timing between postings and the repeats and constant double spaced formatting with repeating phrases. With embedded links on the fly. That's not human.
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Lol, rofl.

Anyone who opposes, "take the guns first," Trump must be a bot! Because starting tomorrow, Trump is going to start keeping his campaign promises. Yeah, tomorrow! Yeah, things will be good tomorrow!

Lol, rofl.

I am a legit poster.

Scared of Trumps border, "plan." Scared to death of the deal Democrats are going to get from Trump in exchange for Trump getting a short border fence and massive numbers of new Democrat-funding Fed LE...

Scared, frightened, and disappointed that I was  right and correct about Trump  being a liar all along...
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:42:10 PM EST
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If that were the case... And do you think that McCains hatred for Trump had anything to do with Trumps attacks on McCains war record? If that were the case, and it was a forgone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against it...

Then when Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, he should have had a back-up plan to McCain.

As far as I can see, Trumps plan was, "I am going to attack McCain personally. I am going to attack McCains Medal-of-Honor-recipient (Stockdale) defended war record... That will get McCaini to support me!"

As far as I can see, that is about as far as Trumps plan on over-turning Obamcare actually got...

That plan sucked.

Either that  was his plan, or his plan was for it to fail, and then blame others for its failure...

Either way, Trump didn't keep his campaign promise...

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Stop spewing your lies and your bullshit links , anyone with two eyes in there head can see illegals in there villages , towns and cities .
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:42:27 PM EST
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That is correct.

McCains political record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective. For the record, neither can Trumps which includes financial and material support for Hillary and Kamala Harris.

What Trump does not have is McCains war record. Which Trump has openly mocked and attacked.
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No. You've unequivocally called him
a hero until I reminded you of his past.
Then you toned it down to his war record.
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Good post, and insure above all else, illegals can NEVER vote regardless of how long they're in this country. To do so would be a felony with jail time followed by immedate deportation. Only exception is if they went through all current legal proceedings to become a US citizen like they're supposed to.
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Trump just freaking put DACA/Amnesty on the table.

How are  you guys not  getting this???-!!!-???

"Illegals should never be allowed to vote..." Fuuuuuuu… For all intents and purposes, Trump just put DACA amnesty on the table in exchange for his short fence, and more Democrat fundraising (through their unions) Fed LE...
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The problem is that there really is no accountability in the system.

Mollie Tibbits killer had, "passed," e-verify. He simply used the name of an immigrant he knew was legal.

The system is broken, and the *real* problem is employers... And welfare... Which Trumps, "build the wall" (fence) plan does not address...
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Get your fucking facts straight. The employer was caught lying about e verify.
Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:45:46 PM EST
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Illegals aren't going anywhere . Your foolish if you think we'll get rid of the ones here.  The issue is getting something solid to keep the next 20 million from being able to work and live here in exchange for letting the ones here stay.   It's the ONLY leverage we will ever have.  Walls and deportation will never stop illegal immigration.  We need to make it hard for them to live and work here to stop it.  Amnesty is the only card we have that will ever get it done
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Even Helen Keller could have predicted this. Did people actually think otherwise?  Excuse me..

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My guess is that Juni4ling was a legitimate account that had the creds stolen and turned into a Bot. Seriously, you look at the timing between postings and the repeats and constant double spaced formatting with repeating phrases. With embedded links on the fly. That's not human.
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Why is every thread that Kangaroo posts in become a spam posting advertisement for mental illness?  Jesus Christ he makes every thread un readable.
My guess is that Juni4ling was a legitimate account that had the creds stolen and turned into a Bot. Seriously, you look at the timing between postings and the repeats and constant double spaced formatting with repeating phrases. With embedded links on the fly. That's not human.
That and his burning passion against trump.
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Lol, rofl.

Anyone who opposes, "take the guns first," Trump must be a bot! Because starting tomorrow, Trump is going to start keeping his campaign promises. Yeah, tomorrow! Yeah, things will be good tomorrow!

Lol, rofl.

I am a legit poster.

Scared of Trumps border, "plan." Scared to death of the deal Democrats are going to get from Trump in exchange for Trump getting a short border fence and massive numbers of new Democrat-funding Fed LE...

Scared, frightened, and disappointed that I was  right and correct about Trump  being a liar all along...
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No. You are a BOT.

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Link Posted: 1/20/2019 4:51:16 PM EST
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Where does your unrequited love for Romney come from?  Are you a Mormon?
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Are you kidding?

You have to be kidding. Look at my profile... "Mormons make the best cookies." Doctrine and Covenants scripture...?-? See those things... Yes, I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints...

Romney is not perfect, but he increased gun rights Link, ordered his state police to enforce immigration lawsLink, and cut and balanced the budget Link...

"Take the guns first" Trump followers/puppets are stuck on Romney for some reason... I think it is part of the, "You can't blame Trump for Trumps failures" thing... But Romney --unlike Trump-- can make the honest claim that he increased gun rights, and balanced the budget...
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You're fucking delusional if you think any President form any Party is going to round up 11+ million people and stick them on southbound busses.
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It was never going to happen anyway and it won't matter if there's no wall. Fix the leak first, then bail out the boat.
This

You're fucking delusional if you think any President form any Party is going to round up 11+ million people and stick them on southbound busses.
You don’t have to do it with 11 million people you just make it to where they cannot live in this country cannot rent a house cannot have a job where anybody that would do either of those things would be sent to Federal prison and many of them made examples of and they would get the fuck out of this country or starve
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I’m real sick of trying to compromise with people who want to destroy the country to make a quick buck.

Deport the illegals that are here
End birthright citizenship
Heavily fine companies that employ illegals
And above all - fuck what democrats and RINOs think, they are completely worthless.
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Are you kidding?

You have to be kidding. Look at my profile... "Mormons make the best cookies." Doctrine and Covenants scripture...?-? See those things... Yes, I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints...

Romney is not perfect, but he increased gun rights Link, ordered his state police to enforce immigration lawsLink, and cut and balanced the budget Link...

"Take the guns first" Trump followers/puppets are stuck on Romney for some reason... I think it is part of the, "You can't blame Trump for Trumps failures" thing... But Romney --unlike Trump-- can make the honest claim that he increased gun rights, and balanced the budget...
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And that MA universal healthcare that Obamacare was patterned after.
I held my nose and voted for Romney but I knew he was a pussy piece of shit. Instead of stomping off stage in righteous indignation, he let that pig candy crowley jump in that debate and defend obama.
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I will take Admiral Stockdales word for it on McCains war record.

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Trump, among other low-life politicians attacked McCains war record. A war-record vouched-out by Medal of Honor recipient Admiral James Stockdale. Link

Stockdale vouched McCain. End of  story. Trump, a Democrat-funding low-life liar had no right to attack McCains war record.
McPlain is, was a POS

Trump parlayed his prostitute-paying, Democrat-paying business career into  a political career rife with broken campaign promises, paid-off prostitutes, and an exploding deficit.

McCains *political* record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective. But, frankly, neither can Trumps, "take the guns first," political record...
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They are not bringing "immigrants" here to work.  Illegal aliens are not immigrants.
A wall would funnel this scum into controlled checkpoints. Where they could be rounded up for deportation.
You just fucking lie, reference Leftist sources like the Washington Post, and make shit up as you go along.
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Trump is trying to give DACA amnesty? Trump is trying to break *another* campaign promise?

FAKE NEWS! LOUD NOISES! LOUD NOISES!

WASHINGTON POST! FAKE NEWS! LOUD NOISES!

The numbers are clear... Trumps DHS states clearly that ~51% of the folks who came here on visas over-stayed their stay... Crystal-clear.

Year after year. Decade after decade...

Now Trump is formally trying to give DACA amnesty? Trump (who said, "they have to go back,") is breaking ***ANOTHER*** campaign promise?

If you use the F-word, you automatically win the argument, right? It means you are *really* serious!

"Take the guns first," Trump follower/puppet: "IT IS F-ING AWESOME THAT MEXICO ISN"T PAYING FOR THE BORDER WALL THROUGH F-ING REMITTANCES!!! IT IS F-ING AWESOME THAT TRUMP IS F-ING GIVING DACA AMNESTY!!!"

F-yeah!

Folks take Trumps DHS own numbers, and extrapolate... I can tell you that the crystal-clear numbers make sense.

And...

I am not against the border wall (fence). It is a lie to say otherwise.

I am not against border security. It is a lie to say otherwise.

I am against Trumps horrible plan to over-look the *real* issues, and give away the farm to get his short fence and vast numbers of new Fed LE.
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Trump is trying to give DACA amnesty? Trump is trying to break *another* campaign promise?

FAKE NEWS! LOUD NOISES! LOUD NOISES!

WASHINGTON POST! FAKE NEWS! LOUD NOISES!

The numbers are clear... Trumps DHS states clearly that ~51% of the folks who came here on visas over-stayed their stay... Crystal-clear.

Year after year. Decade after decade...

Now Trump is formally trying to give DACA amnesty? Trump (who said, "they have to go back,") is breaking ***ANOTHER*** campaign promise?

If you use the F-word, you automatically win the argument, right? It means you are *really* serious!

"Take the guns first," Trump follower/puppet: "IT IS F-ING AWESOME THAT MEXICO ISN"T PAYING FOR THE BORDER WALL THROUGH F-ING REMITTANCES!!! IT IS F-ING AWESOME THAT TRUMP IS F-ING GIVING DACA AMNESTY!!!"

F-yeah!

Folks take Trumps DHS own numbers, and extrapolate... I can tell you that the crystal-clear numbers make sense.

And...

I am not against the border wall (fence). It is a lie to say otherwise.

I am not against border security. It is a lie to say otherwise.

I am against Trumps horrible plan to over-look the *real* issues, and give away the farm to get his short fence and vast numbers of new Fed LE.
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You call illegal aliens "immigrants." You lie.
You posted Yarrabee Farms went through e verify. You lie.
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You don’t have to do it with 11 million people you just make it to where they cannot live in this country cannot rent a house cannot have a job where anybody that would do either of those things would be sent to Federal prison and many of them made examples of and they would get the fuck out of this country or starve
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This. Our government is a joke and they hate us, I don't want to give them a huge round up force. Once it exists, it will never go away and we have to pay for it and find new things for it to do.

Take away any incentives for the illegals. Everything they do must be black market underground shit. Make their lives hell, and they will deport themselves.

Right now, it's not about removing 11 million people. It's about turning 11 million (possibly double that number) into 5 million. Then turning 5 million into 3, so on etc.

We must stop the bleeding with a border solution aka Wall system.
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Sorry y'all's girl lost.  Multi-dimensional chess.  MAGA.  No brakes on the Trump Train.  "You have to go back"

President Trump's very good brain weaponized by his awesome tweeting will bring it all to pass.  It's going to happen.  Have a little faith.  Baby.
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He's fine with that
He didn't expect to win the election the first time
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You apply hero to a guy like McCain simply because he got captured.

McCain was as dirty as they got. "Hero" my ass.
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You apply hero to a guy like McCain simply because he got captured.

McCain was as dirty as they got. "Hero" my ass.
Medal-of-Honor recipient Admiral Stockdale...


John McCain in the Crucible

By JAMES B. STOCKDALE

CORONADO, Calif. -- I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCain's politicalenemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader"instability" caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.

In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to theGeorge W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCain's "weaknesses." As Itold that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.

And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of aman who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left legbroken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.

He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two yearsearlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discoveredthat his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offerthat, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, nostrings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.

There was a special cramped and hot privy-like structure in that Hanoi prison reservedfor whichever American was causing the Vietnamese the most trouble. I was the first in thecamp to be locked up in it, and I gave it the name Calcutta.

There was only room for one person at a time in the cage, and after a couple of monthsI was taken out and marched back to a regular cell. As I limped along, I sneaked a peek atmy replacement: John McCain, hobbling along on his own bad leg.

As one of the few Americans who spent more than four years in solitary confinementduring that war, I know that pride and self-respect lead to aggressiveness, andaggressiveness leads to a deep sense of joy when one is under pressure. This is hardly acharacter flaw.

The military psychiatrists who periodically examine former prisoners of war have foundthat the more resistant a man was to harsh treatment, the more emotionally stable he islikely to become later in life.

The troublemakers who endured long stretches in solitary, the men we called the tigers,are for the most part more in tune with themselves now than are those who chose the easierpath of nonconfrontation, which made them "deserving" of cell mates. Thepsychiatrists tell us that many of those prisoners who chose a more docile existencemissed out on the joy of "getting even" after release; some look back on theirperformances with regret.

The psychiatrists have it partly right, but the truth of imprisonment is best learnedfrom the writings of men who have spent a lot of time in cells, like Dostoyevsky,Cervantes and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The last described his feeling of high-mindedness inhis gulag writings:

"And it was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed withinmyself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the lineseparating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor betweenpolitical parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all humanhearts. . . .

And that is why I turn back to the years of my imprisonment and say, sometimes to theastonishment of those about me: 'Bless you, prison!' "

I understand that, and so does John McCain.
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A lot of American servicemen have been captured in battle in this country's history. McCain is the only one I can think of who built a specious political career out of it.
I don't, can't, and won't defend McCains poor performance in public office. Trump should have attacked McCains political record, and not his  war record.

Trump should have attacked McCains record in office, and not his MOH-defended war record...

McCains political record, and Trumps "take the guns first," "pathway to citizenship for illegals," political record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective...
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Ryan was CLEARLY for that part of abusive illegal immigration that benefitted the Chamber of Commerce.....there is absolutely NO DOUBT about that.

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It would have been nice, if McConnell made them pull a real filibuster. I wonder how long the Dems could keep it up?
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Medal-of-Honor recipient Admiral Stockdale...

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I don't, can't, and won't defend McCains poor performance in public office. Trump should have attacked McCains political record, and not his  war record.

Trump should have attacked McCains record in office, and not his MOH-defended war record...

McCains political record, and Trumps "take the guns first," "pathway to citizenship for illegals," political record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective...
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Why did you lie about Yarrabee Farms and e-verify?
Why do you lie and call illegal aliens immigrants?
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No. You've unequivocally called him
a hero until I reminded you of his past.
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Lol, rofl...

When, ever, I refer to McCain as a, "hero," it is due --totally and completely-- to his MOH-defended war record.

Exclusively, and totally, any positive comment about McCain from me, ever, is to be attributed to his Admiral Stockdale-vouched war record.

And... For the record, Trump would have been wise to attack McCain on his record in office, and not McCains (described by Stockdale as) heroic and self-less war record.
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I will take Admiral Stockdales word for it on McCains war record.

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Stockdale vouched McCain. End of  story. Trump, a Democrat-funding low-life liar had no right to attack McCains war record.

Trump parlayed his prostitute-paying, Democrat-paying business career into  a political career rife with broken campaign promises, paid-off prostitutes, and an exploding deficit.

McCains *political* record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective. But, frankly, neither can Trumps, "take the guns first," political record...
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McCain's 'war record' wasn't all that great, either.  He fucked up more than any non-senator's son would be allowed to, and then fucked up big & got captured.  He refused to defect, but didn't exactly accomplish anything but serve as lesser propaganda for the VK until his release.  Merely suffering does not make one a hero.
I will take Admiral Stockdales word for it on McCains war record.

CORONADO, Calif. -- I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCain's politicalenemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader"instability" caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.

In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to theGeorge W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCain's "weaknesses." As Itold that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.

And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of aman who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left legbroken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.

He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two yearsearlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discoveredthat his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offerthat, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, nostrings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
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Stockdale vouched McCain. End of  story. Trump, a Democrat-funding low-life liar had no right to attack McCains war record.

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He then parlayed those experiences into a lucrative career rife with graft and betrayal, crowing on about moral authority all the while.  Fuck his hell-burning ass.
Trump parlayed his prostitute-paying, Democrat-paying business career into  a political career rife with broken campaign promises, paid-off prostitutes, and an exploding deficit.

McCains *political* record cannot be defended from a conservative perspective. But, frankly, neither can Trumps, "take the guns first," political record...
I wasn't talking about Trump, Juni...

Lots of McCain's peers --not his officers-- did not have any sort of admiration for the man.  In fact, it seems that the closer they worked with him, the lower their opinion.

Besides, I wasn't talking about his popularity at the officers' lounge, either; I was talking about his actual service.  He fucked up big, repeatedly, and "heroically" resisted turning his fuckup into a tragedy for his fellow captives.  Whom he had no business serving alongside of by that point in his career, anyhow.  What a magnificent warrior.
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If that were the case... And do you think that McCains hatred for Trump had anything to do with Trumps attacks on McCains war record? If that were the case, and it was a forgone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against it...

Then when Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, he should have had a back-up plan to McCain.

As far as I can see, Trumps plan was, "I am going to attack McCain personally. I am going to attack McCains Medal-of-Honor-recipient (Stockdale) defended war record... That will get McCaini to support me!"

As far as I can see, that is about as far as Trumps plan on over-turning Obamcare actually got...

That plan sucked.

Either that  was his plan, or his plan was for it to fail, and then blame others for its failure...

Either way, Trump didn't keep his campaign promise...

Leadership is blaming others for failure -Trump 2020.
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I think it was a foregone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against Trumpcare, he hated Trump from day one plus he was a nutjob in his later years. And yes it was a failure on Trump's part but not entirely his fault either. Just look at the speech he gave yesterday, it was very middle ground/compromise and Democrats said NO before he was finished. The whole situation is asinine and you'd have to be irrational to blame Trump for it.
If that were the case... And do you think that McCains hatred for Trump had anything to do with Trumps attacks on McCains war record? If that were the case, and it was a forgone conclusion that McCain was going to vote against it...

Then when Trump promised to over-turn Obamacare, he should have had a back-up plan to McCain.

As far as I can see, Trumps plan was, "I am going to attack McCain personally. I am going to attack McCains Medal-of-Honor-recipient (Stockdale) defended war record... That will get McCaini to support me!"

As far as I can see, that is about as far as Trumps plan on over-turning Obamcare actually got...

That plan sucked.

Either that  was his plan, or his plan was for it to fail, and then blame others for its failure...

Either way, Trump didn't keep his campaign promise...

Leadership is blaming others for failure -Trump 2020.
You're right; Trump should have known that McCain was suspiciously defensive of his war captivity record.  Trump's fault grizzled war hero McCain's ego was hurt.

I'd put maybe 10% of the blame on Trump for being such a needless dick about it.  Except that McCain should have been called out on his preening bullshit decades ago.
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Get your fucking facts straight. The employer was caught lying about e verify.
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Hope he goes to jail...

Initially, the employer claimed the thug had gone through e-verify Link... So the employer lied? Hope he goes to jail...
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I'm pretty sure they aren't quite this sophisticated yet.  I do suspect chunks of his posts are recylced, but only because ya'll keep challenging him to make the same points repeatedly.  He probably has a list of points/links at the ready, like this irellevant Stockton bullshit, the instant I called BS on McCain's "honorable record."
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Hope he goes to jail...

Initially, the employer claimed the thug had gone through e-verify Link... So the employer lied? Hope he goes to jail...
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The employer lied, and you lied.  You posted that Tibbets killer passed everify because he used a legal s name. Yarrabee Farms got caught up in a lie and admitted they didn't go thru e verify. They had a reason to lie-what was your motive?
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By your standard who would have stemmed the tide?
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There's not old posts of yours around here cheering Trump and bragging about how he's gonna do mass deportations, or lock up Hillary, or all the other shit he promised...are there?  Or if so, were you just joking?  During 2016, a lot of Trump's supporters sure seemed dead serious, especially with how they shouted down anyone who hedged like you're doing today.

Trump's beat back the left so hard we're gonna have a full-on socialist nominee running for Democrats by 2020 in an election Republicans can no longer win.  Fuck, not even Hillary was such a terrifyingly steep decline as that.

Trump really did "blow up the political system" as I remember lots of morons cheering for in 2016.  Our last checks on federal and DNC power fall like dominoes.  It appears socialist control is what will come out of those ashes...just as many Trump skeptics predicted.

So everything is really moot, now.  If you save money, it will be expropriated in the coming decades.  Your house & car will be made unaffordable for you.  Every mechanism that allows you to persist without relying on fedgov/DNC will be systematically attacked & made illegal.

Trump didn't work out.  The only question left, is where to go next?  The US is probably no longer a good place to stick around for working men under age 30, and the Democrats haven't yet made it illegal to abandon ship.
By your standard who would have stemmed the tide?
Probably no one, but I don't think many other RNC candidates from 2016 would be betraying us so brazenly, either.  Kasich & JEB, perhaps.
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I'm pretty sure they aren't quite this sophisticated yet.  I do suspect chunks of his posts are recylced, but only because ya'll keep challenging him to make the same points repeatedly.  He probably has a list of points/links at the ready, like this irellevant Stockton bullshit, the instant I called BS on McCain's "honorable record."
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He's going from amusing to irritating.
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No way they could realistically be removed anyway.  How would you find them? Who would round up and ship their asses out?  How the hell much would it cost to ship 11M illegals out even if you could find them?
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Social security filing anomalies at jobs find them by the millions. It was so effective they stopped doing it.

Matter of fact, they went further. You are not permitted to know that someone is using your social security number fraudulently. Let's say there are a dozen illegals working under your # in NM and CA. Social Security will not disclose this to you and will do nothing to stop it. If you were to somehow become aware of the situation and complain. You're the one that has to eat shit.

There is no consequence to them. They are permitted to use whatever number they feel like, repeatedly, in an ongoing fashion.

And ... the cost of removing them is NOTHING compared to the social services they consume.
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I am a legit poster.
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That's exactly what a robot would say...
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Probably no one, but I don't think many other RNC candidates from 2016 would be betraying us so brazenly, either.  Kasich & JEB, perhaps.
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I'm not convinced he's betrayed us. If he does I'll be on here bitching too.
As far as gun rights-he's not a gun guy, and the NRA is whispering in his ear some of his anti gun rhetoric is acceptable.
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No. You are a BOT.

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Lol, rofl.

Anyone who opposes, "take the guns first," Trump must be a bot! Because starting tomorrow, Trump is going to start keeping his campaign promises. Yeah, tomorrow! Yeah, things will be good tomorrow!

Lol, rofl.

I am a legit poster.

Scared of Trumps border, "plan." Scared to death of the deal Democrats are going to get from Trump in exchange for Trump getting a short border fence and massive numbers of new Democrat-funding Fed LE...

Scared, frightened, and disappointed that I was  right and correct about Trump  being a liar all along...
No. You are a BOT.

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That's exactly what a robot would say
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Operation Wetback returned over a million illegals in the first year with less than a thousand BP agents using 1954's technology. It's a matter of choice, not logistics.
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Operation Wetback returned over a million illegals in the first year with less than a thousand BP agents using 1954's technology. It's a matter of choice, not logistics.
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Exactly!!!!! Neither side of the aisle wants this problem solved.  Trump is one man he can't fix it alone.
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I'm not convinced he's betrayed us. If he does I'll be on here bitching too.
As far as gun rights-he's not a gun guy, and the NRA is whispering in his ear some of his anti gun rhetoric is acceptable.
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Probably no one, but I don't think many other RNC candidates from 2016 would be betraying us so brazenly, either.  Kasich & JEB, perhaps.
I'm not convinced he's betrayed us. If he does I'll be on here bitching too.
As far as gun rights-he's not a gun guy, and the NRA is whispering in his ear some of his anti gun rhetoric is acceptable.
If you don't think Trump wags the NRA back the same way they do him, I dunno what to tell you.
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