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Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:32:06 PM EST
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Exactly.  If Lockheed Martin was making tic tac's, the US government, wouldn't be wasting money on F35's (or anything else really).
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Why are they still using fuel propulsion at all,  instead of inverse gravity?


Exactly.  If Lockheed Martin was making tic tac's, the US government, wouldn't be wasting money on F35's (or anything else really).


lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

If f35s were real then the US government wouldn't be wasting money on F16s (or anything else really).
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:42:25 PM EST
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lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

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The US government spends all kinds of money on silly things. The USAF purchased a fleet of new cargo planes only to fly them directly to the boneyard and immediately retire the fleet.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:43:32 PM EST
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There's 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored.

1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we're currently doing. There's some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity.

2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they're able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they're gone all too quickly. It's hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there's evidence it's real.


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Pretty much this. If you listen to the various serious people that discuss this, "outer space" isn't really what they talk about.  In Lou's interview with Rogan he was extremely selective with the language he used.  I had it on in the background and wasn't paying attention to the whole thing but at one point he asked Joe what he meant by "aliens".   Lou's point was they are non human intelligence but not from outer space per say.

Tucker famously implied that they are "demons" from another place/time/dimension but also specifically suggested they aren't from space. Maybe they have been here for hundreds or thousands of years.  Certainly there are ancient paintings and texts that suggest something along those lines.

It's weird. I still can't decide if this is just an elaborate cover for advanced technology we have or government slowly preparing a population for a reality changing revelation.  Both things seem plausible.

The thing that annoys me is that they continue to be intentionally vague. Elisondo suggests he knows far more than he is allowed to reveal.  Maybe, maybe it's just marketing bullshit.    If it's a rouse, a cover, it is by far the most complex and long running cover in the history of counter espionage.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:53:23 PM EST
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The US government spends all kinds of money on silly things. The USAF purchased a fleet of new cargo planes only to fly them directly to the boneyard and immediately retire the fleet.
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lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

If f35s were real then the US government wouldn't be wasting money on F16s (or anything else really).


The US government spends all kinds of money on silly things. The USAF purchased a fleet of new cargo planes only to fly them directly to the boneyard and immediately retire the fleet.


Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh……

So you’re saying the production of less advanced equipment doesn’t disprove the existence of more advanced equipment.

Man, all this reality is making my head hurt.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:55:23 PM EST
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I love me some alien threads
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:58:28 PM EST
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The people who think that we made these UFO's are fucking smooth brained lemmings.
At the speed with which they change directions any one inside would be human soup, hell our modern solid state technology wouldn't survive these forces.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 12:59:26 PM EST
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The people who think that we made these UFO's are fucking smooth brained lemmings.
At the speed with which they change directions any one inside would be human soup, hell our modern solid state technology wouldn't survive these forces.
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That's because they're advanced holograms
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:01:47 PM EST
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That's because they're advanced holograms
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The people who think that we made these UFO's are fucking smooth brained lemmings.
At the speed with which they change directions any one inside would be human soup, hell our modern solid state technology wouldn't survive these forces.

That's because they're advanced holograms
or somehow not interacting with our understood physics the same way we do.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:07:47 PM EST
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Charlie sheen, coked up, and trained by bill cosby could be a dangerous weapon if we can get him to decided kinky alien sex is what he wants. Given that aliens arent from earth biological warefare should be fine
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:10:51 PM EST
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Muh blue beamz
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The people who think that we made these UFO's are fucking smooth brained lemmings.
At the speed with which they change directions any one inside would be human soup, hell our modern solid state technology wouldn't survive these forces.

That's because they're advanced holograms


Muh blue beamz

Of course the holograms are just a distraction from the fact we have real version flying around too
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:16:15 PM EST
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Pretty sure they have been here forever.  They live in the oceans and the other side of Antarctica.  That is why we really don't study either area as much as outer space - we aren't allowed - it's off limits.  I thought this was common knowledge.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:22:16 PM EST
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A long time ago there was a thread on this forum about aliens and the devil. That thread made me realize that we are so stupid that we may collapse as a civilization if they reveal themselves.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:22:37 PM EST
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Chinese and Russians are probably behind the push for disclosure. I'm sure they have some politicians already bought and paid for, just waiting to get their hands on the technology.
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maybe they are made by boeing
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Yea…….if they are so smart how come they keep crashing their flying saucers.


maybe they are made by boeing


Flown by females?

Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:29:58 PM EST
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There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored.

1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity.

2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real.


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Like the end of Prince of Darkness?
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:31:24 PM EST
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Then why are they still soaking the US taxpayers for obsolete fighter jets when they could be soaking us for money to build more tic-tac's?



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Misdirection
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:38:46 PM EST
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The military-industrial complex would love to rule the world. We will know the day after they have reverse engineered that Non Human Intelligence stuff they have been working on for 70 years.

And it won't be fun for us. I'm not worried about the people running tic tacs now. I'm real worried about the day humans start running them.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 1:40:26 PM EST
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In that short story “The Road Less Traveled”, I’d say 22LR would work, but any centerfire rifle with a respectable range will dominate them.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:03:57 PM EST
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What a crock of shit - pure, unmitigated bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:12:45 PM EST
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maybe they are made by boeing
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Yea  .if they are so smart how come they keep crashing their flying saucers.


maybe they are made by boeing
Fucking GD is always on point!!

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Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:21:59 PM EST
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So the big question I have is ...

Can the aliens find bigfoot and prove his (her/whatever) existence?

or maybe ..

Can bigfoot find the aliens and prove their existence?

I suppose we would have to find either one of them to see, so those questions will likely never be answered.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:23:35 PM EST
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What if WE taste like chicken?
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(spoiler alert, lol, if you plan to the full episode in this lifetime).

The Twilight Zone (Classic): To Serve Man - It's A Cook Book!
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:27:40 PM EST
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OST
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 2:31:35 PM EST
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The problem with any UFO disclosure at this point is that to do it, the government has to admit they have been lying to us  for seventy five years.

Think about finding out your wife who you love and admire and trust, had an affair on you, when she tells you about it a week later, versus finally finding out from your wife that you love and admire and trust, that she has been having affairs with lots of different people for the last fifty years.  The first situation is really bad and traumatic.  The second situation would be absolutely soul crushing.  That's the problem the government faces right now.
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How is that the hard part.  Most of America at this point already assumes the government is lying about everything
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 3:15:27 PM EST
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Will this be a stand up fight or another bug hunt, sir?
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 3:46:39 PM EST
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I tried to tell you we're real, but you wouldn't listen. Now my people are afraid we'll never get you to believe us.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 3:47:39 PM EST
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What happened to the two UFO's shot down by the F-22?

Where was the shoot down at?
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 5:05:03 PM EST
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I'm starting to believe we ARE the ETs. Look at it this way, humans are the only creatures that are not naturally able to survive in pretty much any environment on this planet without brute forcing it to fit our preferences. Drop a human off anywhere on Earth with no tools, clothing or equipment. Just a butt-ass naked man as god created him. He'll be dead within days.

We don't belong here.
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We share too much of the same general anatomy as the rest of life here for that to be true.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 5:38:35 PM EST
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Their UAP ships have been clocked on radar at 20,000 mph.  The energy required to go 60 miles in a few seconds with their UAP requires an enormous amount of energy equivalent to 3 years of US Energy consumption according to some scientists.  It is also reported they do have essentially an unlimited power source.
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Due to the vast distances in the universe and the speed of light as the speed limit, chances are pretty slim aliens are here.  On top of that, the sheer number of galaxies out there, at least mathematically, means there's damn near 100% chance other life is out there, but those same incredible numbers and distances also means the chances of them finding us is mathematically near zero.  

So, if aliens are here, that can really only mean one thing...they put us here.  

Hell, who knows...it's all just mental masturbation at this point.



Their UAP ships have been clocked on radar at 20,000 mph.  The energy required to go 60 miles in a few seconds with their UAP requires an enormous amount of energy equivalent to 3 years of US Energy consumption according to some scientists.  It is also reported they do have essentially an unlimited power source.


They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 5:54:57 PM EST
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We share too much of the same general anatomy as the rest of life here for that to be true.
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You are assuming that panspermia is not a thing.  I am not claiming it is, but if true it would explain the same general anatomy resemblance.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:19:15 PM EST
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They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power.
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There is no proof of dark energy or dark matter beyond the fact that the math we use to describe the motion of the cosmos doesn't work without it.  So either its most of the energy in existence and we can't detect, sense or measure it despite decades of trying or we don't understand as much as we think we do.  I'm betting on hubris, but just because of experience
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:19:21 PM EST
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It depends.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:21:14 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:22:08 PM EST
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lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

If f35s were real then the US government wouldn't be wasting money on F16s (or anything else really).
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Why are they still using fuel propulsion at all,  instead of inverse gravity?


Exactly.  If Lockheed Martin was making tic tac's, the US government, wouldn't be wasting money on F35's (or anything else really).


lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

If f35s were real then the US government wouldn't be wasting money on F16s (or anything else really).

I am located on the outer limits of the flight path to and from Lockheed Martin/Joint Reserve Base Ft Worth.

They look and sound pretty real to me.

Sounds like victory.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:25:51 PM EST
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We defeated the Pak,  we sent the Puppeteers running, System Lords Ra / Anubis / Apophis / Nirti / Kronos / Yu / Seth / Osiris / Hathor / Tanith / Sokar / Imhotep / Bynar / Moloc / Aries / Amaterasu / Heru'ur ...    we got this. Cue slow walk AC/DC clip.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:42:21 PM EST
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I am located on the outer limits of the flight path to and from Lockheed Martin/Joint Reserve Base Ft Worth.

They look and sound pretty real to me.

Sounds like victory.
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Why are they still using fuel propulsion at all,  instead of inverse gravity?


Exactly.  If Lockheed Martin was making tic tac's, the US government, wouldn't be wasting money on F35's (or anything else really).


lol. I can’t believe that you people really think f35s exist.  

If f35s were real then the US government wouldn't be wasting money on F16s (or anything else really).

I am located on the outer limits of the flight path to and from Lockheed Martin/Joint Reserve Base Ft Worth.

They look and sound pretty real to me.

Sounds like victory.


Clearly government trickery.

I’ve been assured that the production of less advanced craft disproves the existence of more advanced craft.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:48:50 PM EST
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There is no proof of dark energy or dark matter beyond the fact that the math we use to describe the motion of the cosmos doesn't work without it.  So either its most of the energy in existence and we can't detect, sense or measure it despite decades of trying or we don't understand as much as we think we do.  I'm betting on hubris, but just because of experience
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They do have unlimited energy. They have tapped in the dark energy of the universe. And I'm not talking about Obama or Kamala. Dark energy dominates the universe, contributing 68% of the total energy. Its real. And they are using it for power.
There is no proof of dark energy or dark matter beyond the fact that the math we use to describe the motion of the cosmos doesn't work without it.  So either its most of the energy in existence and we can't detect, sense or measure it despite decades of trying or we don't understand as much as we think we do.  I'm betting on hubris, but just because of experience


Dark energy is what is driving the expansion of the universe. Right? So it is the force pushing against whatever is on the other side of the universe. What is on the other side? If it were a vacuum no force would be needed. So it must be a multiverse.
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Back in the ‘80s people who had been abducted by aliens would be on TV talking about getting anal probes up on the ship. You never hear about that anymore.
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How do these aliens feel about receiving rough unwanted sex from a human?

Asking for a friend, of course.


Back in the ‘80s people who had been abducted by aliens would be on TV talking about getting anal probes up on the ship. You never hear about that anymore.

They changed the drugs they give for colonoscopies.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 6:56:30 PM EST
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I dont know what ghosts have to do with it. We also thought the speed of sound was absolutely insurmountable right up until we did it.
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False.
We knew things went faster than sound regularly.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 7:06:34 PM EST
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Did you listen to Lazar on Rogan? Anytime he was pressed for details he couldn’t answer because “muh migraine” lmao.
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I have watched many clips of Lazar on Rogen, I somehow missed him ever declining to give any details asked because of a migraine, or any other reason.

Say whatever you want about Bob Lazar, but his story has been pretty consistent since I have been following him. Only once has it seemed to me he was bullshiting. It was when he was asked if he has ever seen actual aliens. Can't remember exactly what he said, but how he said it made me think he was exaggerating at least.
Link Posted: 9/3/2024 7:10:20 PM EST
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There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored.

1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity.

2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real.


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The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods.

Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion.

The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design.
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Took two of the gummies tonight?  


Seriously, if there are aliens capable of FTL and interstellar travel here on earth, our weapons and detection technology will more than likely be almost totally ineffective against them.  So, I would just pick an AK, cuz there ain't no better battle proven weapon for situations where you are up against a more technologically superior adversary.
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Col Dan Weaver would agree.
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The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods.

Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion.

The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design.
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There’s 2 theories being explored. Seriously explored.

1 these beings are us from the future who have come back to potentially warn our past selves of the dangerous of what we’re currently doing. There’s some bad actors also coming back to try and stop us from alerting humanity.

2 these are being not from the ocean or outer space but from parallel dimensions. Think upside down world. When the conditions are right they’re able to slip through the veil and into this dimension. Hence why you see some weird shit but they’re gone all too quickly. It’s hard to think about another world operating at the same time on the same plane as you sitting here reading this but there’s evidence it’s real.




The latter may be viably explained by string theory and the possible existence of parallel realities. Think of existence as a freeway of infinite lanes all going in one direction. The lane dividers prevent you from seeing into the other lanes, but there are either intermittent on and off ramps that allow passage into the other realities or some of the dividers between them are worn thin by time and allow brief glimpses of the traffic in the other lanes. This would explain the relatively brief interludes of visibility of these craft. What we think of as alien visitations may be nothing more than traffic patterns of different realities of us, our current iteration of reality being nothing but a universal wrong turn. We may be living in the reality thread that is the Mall nobody ever really wants to visit- bad neighborhood, rude salespeople and shoddy goods.

Why only one traffic direction? The impossibility of time travel may prove to be more than a technological stumbling block and serve as a universal restraint imposed by physics or reasoned compulsion.

The real interesting thing would be if, down the line, there are any junctions or at least an intersection built into the design.

What are your thoughts on this being a simulation?
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You are assuming that panspermia is not a thing.  I am not claiming it is, but if true it would explain the same general anatomy resemblance.
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We share too much of the same general anatomy as the rest of life here for that to be true.

You are assuming that panspermia is not a thing.  I am not claiming it is, but if true it would explain the same general anatomy resemblance.


Don’t take a black light to the universe. Just saying.
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I'm starting to believe we ARE the ETs. Look at it this way, humans are the only creatures that are not naturally able to survive in pretty much any environment on this planet without brute forcing it to fit our preferences. Drop a human off anywhere on Earth with no tools, clothing or equipment. Just a butt-ass naked man as god created him. He'll be dead within days.

We don't belong here.
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Naked And Afraid enters the chat.
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I have watched many clips of Lazar on Rogen, I somehow missed him ever declining to give any details asked because of a migraine, or any other reason.

Say whatever you want about Bob Lazar, but his story has been pretty consistent since I have been following him. Only once has it seemed to me he was bullshiting. It was when he was asked if he has ever seen actual aliens. Can't remember exactly what he said, but how he said it made me think he was exaggerating at least.
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Did you listen to Lazar on Rogan? Anytime he was pressed for details he couldn’t answer because “muh migraine” lmao.



I have watched many clips of Lazar on Rogen, I somehow missed him ever declining to give any details asked because of a migraine, or any other reason.

Say whatever you want about Bob Lazar, but his story has been pretty consistent since I have been following him. Only once has it seemed to me he was bullshiting. It was when he was asked if he has ever seen actual aliens. Can't remember exactly what he said, but how he said it made me think he was exaggerating at least.


Well listen to the actual interview instead of cherry picked clips. It’s the one with Lazar and Jeremy Corbel.
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