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I despise unions as much as the next guy but are you implying that corporations are the good guys?

Theyve single handedly done more damage to this country than anything else I can think of.

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The two tiered wage system has created a lot of issues within the hourly wage earners.

Any hires in the past 10 years aren't making anywhere what most here think they make and they don't have some fantastic pension plan either.

Upper management up to and including CEO's and CFO's and ignorant government monkeys [who seldom have any degree or expertise in anything related to actual engineering or pollution controls] have created almost every recent issue seen with domestic automakers. And none of them have taken any cuts in pay and most have seen far more compensation, especially on the company side.

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I'm a union member for a large aerospace company in the NW ;) before I went to work there I heard the stories about the union protecting people. Now that I've been on the inside for 15 years the real problem is the incompetent management that won't do anything. Management that also has no idea what's involved in most of the work. As long as management documents why they're firing or writing someone up the union backs off. Rarely happens. About 10 years ago I asked a manager why they kept this one person around. Sweetheart of a woman but completely worthless. "she's untouchable, she's a black female union steward". Told him "bullshit, no one is untouchable, you just don't want to do your job".
About a year later a manager made it his mission to get her out of there. He had a 3 ring binder of documentation. Called her into a meeting with Senior managers, 2 other union stewards and a union business rep. "Here's the deal, you can retire right now or we can open up this binder and go through it and see that you aren't competent". She retired on the spot. Granted she retired with her pension but it took 35 years for management to finally do something about her.
When I got hired I was very anti-union, after I'd been there a while my brother asked me what my views were on it then. "there's the company side, the union side, what's fair and just is a huge grey area in the middle".
I've got a good job, enjoy what I do. Program and run multi-axis CNC machines doing work that I'd have a hard time finding outside of this company. Most shops have some programmers and machine operators. We do it all and I never know what's waiting for me the next day. When it comes to wages the only way I'm going to get an increase is through the contract. Can't hardly ask for a raise when my direct manager has no idea what's involved in doing what I do nor the knowledge it takes, then expect him to go up the chain through further layers, each layer is more detached than the previous. Corporate world bureaucracy at it's finest.

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Wait until the Chinese start flooding the US market with EVs (aided by the Biden admin's war on ICE vehicles).  

Everyone on Arfcom who has a Holosun optic will be buying one.

According to Justin Dugan, who hosts American Trucks' video, it takes approximately 20 hours to build an F-150.

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for all you union haters and C Suite and shareholder model worshipers...here's the brass tacks



Lets say you got top pay making that truck $38 an  hour

That's 20 hours and $38 an hour, that's $760 buck in labor for one person

and ya'll are bitching that they want a raise....let me tell you somthing...if that's the assembly labor costs...the automakers need to get their heads out their asses with their spending because assembly line labor isn't killing them

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It's not exactly 20 hours from one guy gets you from raw materials to a finished F-150. Those 20 hours are just final assembly of a bunch of expensive parts built on a bunch of other assembly lines, all staffed by a bunch of people, supported by a lot of other people.

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Well. The gov is all but mandating EV’s regardless of their viability and China intends to flood the market with cheap ones.


yeah

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for all you union haters and C Suite and shareholder model worshipers...here's the brass tacks



Lets say you got top pay making that truck $38 an  hour

That's 20 hours and $38 an hour, that's $760 buck in labor for one person

and ya'll are bitching that they want a raise....let me tell you somthing...if that's the assembly labor costs...the automakers need to get their heads out their asses with their spending because assembly line labor isn't killing them

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for all you union haters and C Suite and shareholder model worshipers...here's the brass tacks



Lets say you got top pay making that truck $38 an  hour

That's 20 hours and $38 an hour, that's $760 buck in labor for one person

and ya'll are bitching that they want a raise....let me tell you somthing...if that's the assembly labor costs...the automakers need to get their heads out their asses with their spending because assembly line labor isn't killing them

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$15/hr becomes the default minimum wage for the average worker, prices of everything skyrocket and now they need more money.

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Do you want $150k base model F150?
Because this is how you get that.