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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:11:18 PM EDT
Joey is asking for $13 billion more. From today:
US Aid to Ukraine Amounts to $900 Per American Household Congressionally approved aid for Ukraine has cost each U.S. household hundreds of dollars, Heritage Foundation budget expert Richard Stern says. “The formal aid packages alone amount to a staggering $113 billion—roughly $900 per American household and almost 12 times the spending cuts promised by House leadership in the annual spending bills,” Stern, director of The Heritage Foundation’s Grover M. Hermann Center for the Federal Budget, said in an email to The Daily Signal, Heritage’s news outlet. “As with all new federal spending,” Stern added, “this $113 billion spending spree was added to our national debt and will cost more than $300 in interest costs per household over the decade. Of course, we’ve given more aid than that, but haven’t paid the bill on it yet.” Congress already has greenlighted over $113 billion in “aid and military assistance to support the Ukrainian government and allied nations” since Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. “As the war in Ukraine becomes a prolonged conflict, Americans are rightly growing skeptical of sending more taxpayer dollars and equipment from our depleted armory,” Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts told The Daily Signal in a written statement. “Washington has failed to address their concerns, explain our nation’s strategy in the war, or enact basic oversight for our aid,” Roberts said. “If Congress can’t fix those fundamental issues, they have no business sending more money into the fog of war.” |
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Is that counting the value of material that was going to incur a replacement cost regardless of whether it got dismantled in a scrap yard vs getting shipped to ukraine?
If so, its probably not a very accurate cost assessment. It would probably be more accurate to only count the "cost of aid" for that as whatever it cost to ship it over and above what it might cost to transport to a scrap yard. Plus, of course, whatever it would bring as scrap. |
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And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military?
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So I can write that off for my tax returns, right? I already fund state welfare, I don’t want to fund war welfare
Quoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? View Quote Shit economy and their military power is laughable. What do we gain again? |
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Quoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? View Quote |
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It's costing more when you factor in inflation and general higher prices this is causing
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But we don’t have the money to build a wall to protect our own borders.
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GD: "that's well worth the investment"
Me: "that's a lot of my money to cover up Biden's corruption there and line some other people's pockets in the process" |
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75% of the number of individuals who have incorrectly been factored as sharing the cost will never pay anything. Now redo that math.
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Quoted: One has nothing to do with another. View Quote It absolutely is. Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago. It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine. Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not. Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military. |
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Quoted: It absolutely is. Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago. It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine. Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not. Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military. View Quote If it’s already paid for then why the need for billions every week? It’s free right? |
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Quoted: It absolutely is. Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago. It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine. Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not. Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military. View Quote And where’s does myself paying Ukraine pensions and social spending factor in? |
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Remember when lefties were shrieking that musk could solve world hunger for $6B, but wouldn't?
Pepperidge Farm remembers |
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Quoted: Oh ok. Carry on then. View Quote And yes I would like the DoD budget to be reduced massively. There is so much waste and inefficiency we could cut the budget a lot and still be more lethal. But who will pay for all those retired O5/6s jobs programs and all the DEI and gender reassignment surgeries? Give me a fucking break |
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Quoted: And where’s does myself paying Ukraine pensions and social spending factor in? View Quote Elsewhere. I didn't say aid to Ukraine costs us nothing. I said much of it was sunk expenditure regardless of whether it was sent to Ukraine. But this is a knee jerk rage bait thread and no one seems particularly interested in figuring out actual costs of anything. |
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Such absolute bullshit.
How many Charlie Wilson's wars are we going to pay for? |
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Quoted: Elsewhere. I didn't say aid to Ukraine costs us nothing. I said much of it was sunk expenditure regardless of whether it was sent to Ukraine. But this is a knee jerk rage bait thread and no one seems particularly interested in figuring out actual costs of anything. View Quote So tell me how much of my paycheck are you Uke bros entitled to? |
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Quoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? View Quote Attached File |
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Sounds good to get to watch the the Russians make total clowns of themselves on the world stage.
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Quoted: Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that). That brings up a pretty valid point |
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honestly, it would be nice if every major funding was pre-paid - like a capital call of tax payers
"Congress is requesting you give $900 from your paycheck to aid Ukraine and $200 in "relief," whatever that is, to Africa. Additionally, there will be $432 in additional pork for unspecified funding in different members' districts. Yay or Nay?" |
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Did I make it before we're told what a "deal" or "bargain" that is?
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Quoted: How much do you want to downsize the military by? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that). How much do you want to downsize the military by? With the current crop of retarded admirals and generals, trannies all over and the navy driving blind, 100% |
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That's nothing I can only imagine how much rebuilding the place will cost us.
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