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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:11:18 PM EDT
Joey is asking for $13 billion more. From today:



US Aid to Ukraine Amounts to $900 Per American Household

Congressionally approved aid for Ukraine has cost each U.S. household hundreds of dollars, Heritage Foundation budget expert Richard Stern says.

The formal aid packages alone amount to a staggering $113 billion—roughly $900 per American household and almost 12 times the spending cuts promised by House leadership in the annual spending bills,” Stern, director of The Heritage Foundation’s Grover M. Hermann Center for the Federal Budget, said in an email to The Daily Signal, Heritage’s news outlet.

“As with all new federal spending,” Stern added, “this $113 billion spending spree was added to our national debt and will cost more than $300 in interest costs per household over the decade. Of course, we’ve given more aid than that, but haven’t paid the bill on it yet.”

Congress already has greenlighted over $113 billion in “aid and military assistance to support the Ukrainian government and allied nations” since Russian President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine in February 2022, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

“As the war in Ukraine becomes a prolonged conflict, Americans are rightly growing skeptical of sending more taxpayer dollars and equipment from our depleted armory,” Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts told The Daily Signal in a written statement.

“Washington has failed to address their concerns, explain our nation’s strategy in the war, or enact basic oversight for our aid,” Roberts said. “If Congress can’t fix those fundamental issues, they have no business sending more money into the fog of war.”



Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:12:20 PM EDT
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I want a refund and a separate Russo-Ukraine Forum here.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:13:32 PM EDT
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If Russia wins do we get a refund?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:15:33 PM EDT
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Faded savings accounts?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:15:44 PM EDT
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Is that counting the value of material that was going to incur a replacement cost regardless of whether it got dismantled in a scrap yard vs getting shipped to ukraine?

If so, its probably not a very accurate cost assessment.   It would probably be more accurate to only count the "cost of aid" for that as whatever it cost to ship it over and above what it might cost to transport to a scrap yard.  Plus, of course, whatever it would bring as scrap.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:16:01 PM EDT
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And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:17:08 PM EDT
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So I can write that off for my tax returns, right? I already fund state welfare, I don’t want to fund war welfare

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Shit economy and their military power is laughable. What do we gain again?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:17:28 PM EDT
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Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that).
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:17:44 PM EDT
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That didn't take long
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:18:25 PM EDT
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In before the usuals come in and rate this a troll thread.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:18:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:18:45 PM EDT
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Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that).
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Yep.

UA and RU can both get bent.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:18:58 PM EDT
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Its in the billions...



...that ain't 'cheap'
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:19:18 PM EDT
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How much do you want to downsize the military by?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:19:46 PM EDT
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It's costing more when you factor in inflation and general higher prices this is causing
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:19:46 PM EDT
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One has nothing to do with another.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:20:15 PM EDT
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But we don’t have the money to build a wall to protect our own borders.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:21:17 PM EDT
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GD: "that's well worth the investment"

Me: "that's a lot of my money to cover up Biden's corruption there and line some other people's pockets in the process"
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:21:31 PM EDT
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Let’s get a breakdown for actual taxpayers, not households.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:21:37 PM EDT
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75% of the number of individuals who have incorrectly been factored as sharing the cost will never pay anything. Now redo that math.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:22:12 PM EDT
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Uke bros are happy to spend our paychecks for their pet cause.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:22:36 PM EDT
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It absolutely is.

Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago.   It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine.  Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not.

Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:23:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:23:36 PM EDT
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It absolutely is.

Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago.   It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine.  Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not.

Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military.
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If it’s already paid for then why the need for billions every week? It’s free right?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:24:17 PM EDT
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If it’s already paid for then why the need for billions every week? It’s free right?
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Oh ok.  Carry on then.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:24:22 PM EDT
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It absolutely is.

Much of the aid sent was stuff that was paid for years or even decades ago.   It was already paid for, regardless of whether it got sent to Ukraine.  Much of that was going to incur an expenditure for replacement no matter if it got sent overseas to Ukraine or not.

Literally the only way to reduce that spending would have been to downsize the military.
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And where’s does myself paying Ukraine pensions and social spending factor in?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:24:30 PM EDT
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Remember when lefties were shrieking that musk could solve world hunger for $6B, but wouldn't?

Pepperidge Farm remembers
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:25:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:25:56 PM EDT
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Oh ok.  Carry on then.
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And yes I would like the DoD budget to be reduced massively. There is so much waste and inefficiency we could cut the budget a lot and still be more lethal. But who will pay for all those retired O5/6s jobs programs and all the DEI and gender reassignment surgeries? Give me a fucking break
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:26:17 PM EDT
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Elsewhere.  

I didn't say aid to Ukraine costs us nothing.

I said much of it was sunk expenditure regardless of whether it was sent to Ukraine.

But this is a knee jerk rage bait thread and no one seems particularly interested in figuring out actual costs of anything.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:26:50 PM EDT
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Such absolute bullshit.

How many Charlie Wilson's wars are we going to pay for?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:26:56 PM EDT
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Elsewhere.  

I didn't say aid to Ukraine costs us nothing.

I said much of it was sunk expenditure regardless of whether it was sent to Ukraine.

But this is a knee jerk rage bait thread and no one seems particularly interested in figuring out actual costs of anything.
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So tell me how much of my paycheck are you Uke bros entitled to?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:28:07 PM EDT
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All of it.

Go to PMs and I'll send you a direct bank wire info.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:28:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:29:01 PM EDT
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false stat....only about 40% of households pay tax.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:29:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:31:09 PM EDT
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All of it.

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Hell, I’d rather give it to you than Ukraine and Biden.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:31:47 PM EDT
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How many Russians did my $900 kill?

No complaints here.


Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:32:23 PM EDT
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Sounds good to get to watch the the Russians make total clowns of themselves on the world stage.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:35:25 PM EDT
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Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that).
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Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that).


That brings up a pretty valid point
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:35:25 PM EDT
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and this
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:38:28 PM EDT
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honestly, it would be nice if every major funding was pre-paid - like a capital call of tax payers

"Congress is requesting you give $900 from your paycheck to aid Ukraine and $200 in "relief," whatever that is, to Africa.  Additionally, there will be $432 in additional pork for unspecified funding in different members' districts.  Yay or Nay?"
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:41:19 PM EDT
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Did I make it before we're told what a "deal" or "bargain" that is?
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:42:49 PM EDT
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Of course not.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:42:52 PM EDT
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Nope. I want my $900 back (and with the amount I pay it’s likely much more than that).


How much do you want to downsize the military by?



With the current crop of retarded admirals and generals, trannies all over and the navy driving blind, 100%

Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:44:39 PM EDT
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Rated News before you know who does you know what.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:45:22 PM EDT
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That's nothing I can only imagine how much rebuilding the place will cost us.
Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:45:43 PM EDT
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I bet you believe Biden actually won the 2020 election, too.

Link Posted: 8/10/2023 5:46:05 PM EDT
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That will be a Russian problem.
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