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Posted: 3/5/2024 3:55:28 PM EDT
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/victoria-nuland-leaving-post-ukraine-ropes-us-policy-shambles#comment-stream
Ukraine forces are in retreat and the war is going badly from NATO's perspective, Biden's $60+ billion for Kiev is halted in the House, and the Democratic incumbent's reelection chances are looking grim in November. And as if confirming there's no light at the end of the tunnel, Victoria Nuland is stepping down as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs of the United States. The State Department announced Tuesday morning she is retiring. The Associated Press announcement interestingly enough underscores her hawkish legacy on Russia and Ukraine. "Victoria Nuland, the third-highest ranking U.S. diplomat and frequent target of criticism for her hawkish views on Russia and its actions in Ukraine, will leave her post this month, the State Department said Tuesday," it wrote. Her boss Antony Blinken said something a bit ironic on the occasion of unveiling her departure: "But it’s Toria’s leadership on Ukraine that diplomats and students of foreign policy will study for years to come." Indeed, many already know her as Victoria-'Fuck the EU'-Nuland and for essentially running foreign policy in Europe, stretching back through the Obama years as then Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, where many of the problems which sparked the disastrous and tragic Russia-Ukraine war were first set in motion. According to more praise from Secretary Blinken: "Her efforts have been indispensable to confronting Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, marshaling a global coalition to ensure his strategic failure, and helping Ukraine work toward the day when it will be able to stand strongly on its own feet – democratically, economically, and militarily." Of course, Blinken's boldly declaring Russia's "strategic failure" seems a bit forced and premature (to put it mildly), considering too that even from a propaganda angle leading NATO countries are currently very much on the defensive. Things simply aren't going well in NATO-land, by many accounts. Some of you dont like hedge but this is news, big news. Even The Guardian is now singing a very different tune, listing off serious policy failures and disasters for the West: Western Europe has no conceivable interest in escalating the Ukraine war through a long-range missile exchange. While it should sustain its logistical support for Ukrainian forces, it has no strategic interest in Kyiv’s desire to drive Russia out of the majority Russian-speaking areas of Crimea or Donbas. It has every interest in assiduously seeking an early settlement and starting the rebuilding of Ukraine. As for the west’s “soft power” sanctions on Russia, they have failed miserably, disrupting the global trading economy in the process. Sanctions may be beloved of western diplomats and thinktanks. They may even hurt someone – not least Britain’s energy users – but they have not devastated the Russian economy or changed Putin’s mind. This year Russia’s growth rate is expected to exceed Britain’s. The crass ineptitude of a quarter of a century of western military interventions should have taught us some lessons. Apparently not. |
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After yesterday, she's fleeing the sinking ship. Don't worry, the architect of the Ukraine war will end up with a cush job at Raytheon.
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View Quote This is some russian propaganda copy pasta? She had no control and had no idea what was happening essnetially https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 |
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“But it’s Toria’s leadership on Ukraine that diplomats and students of foreign policy will study for years to come."
Yes, it’s valuable to study disasters as well as successes. |
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Quoted: Lot of Russian talking points there, op View Quote Especially the recordings of Nuland and Pyat, lol. Don’t forget the prior 30 years of actual meddling in Ukrainian politics that’s documented in American press all the way back to Nuland’s mentors Albright and Talbott who were former NSA Brzezinski fans… I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to admit they wanted this war. Is it just that they have to be pure as the driven snow heroes? |
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She is just going into hibernation as the house falls she will not be home for it.
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Time for Vicky to take a victory lap around the Beltway before joining up with a neocon think tank for some paychecks and hush money from the big guy until shes ready to come off the bench again
Great job running Europe into the ground! Can we have our money back since you quit? |
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The US's "policy" was always in shambles, it was never going to be anything else with all of the corruption. Nuland got what she wanted, including a mess she and her idiot boss can't control, and now she's leaving, no surprises there.
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Nuland is a corrupt authoritarian.
I'm sure she'll end up on a corporate board making millions. |
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Quoted: After yesterday, she's fleeing the sinking ship. Don't worry, the architect of the Ukraine war will end up with a cush job at Raytheon.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH6viOLXgAAUGJv?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH6l2r8XsAAgJrd?format=jpg&name=900x900 View Quote Wasn’t Nuland’s buddy Talbott running Brookings for awhile too? Brookings were the ones backing Hillary when she was throwing Ukraine under the bus back in the Obama regime. |
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Originally Posted By tsg68: He needs the moral high ground to justify buying the surplus armor later… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tsg68: He needs the moral high ground to justify buying the surplus armor later… Attached File Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect Attached File Laughing at the Russian talking points that simply get echoed and repeated by “alt media”. Oh no, a career politician/diplomat leaves. Trump had a ton of folks leave and come on during his 4 years. |
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Everyone stop noticing.
The government is here to help us identify propaganda. Take heed. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1647_jpeg-3150216.JPG Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1650_jpeg-3150217.JPG Laughing at the Russian talking points that simply get echoed and repeated by “alt media”. Oh no, a career politician/diplomat leaves. Trump had a ton of folks leave and come on during his 4 years. View Quote And so many of them were recorded talking about who their personal picks for a new Ukrainian government were and getting the VP (Biden) to give the alphabet agencies an “attaboy” for all their subversive work, lol. Remember that Biden was the lead on the Ukrainian adventure and that his aide Anna Makanju was both his aide to Ukraine and the DoD’s “expert” on NATO policy. She knew that we could get Ukraine entangled and not trigger NATO articles. She’s also a former Russian national and serves as an advisor on all things Russian and NATO to the Atlantic Group. She was educated by a Soros grant too, super lols. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1647_jpeg-3150216.JPG Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1650_jpeg-3150217.JPG View Quote That's one way to put it... |
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The Leaked Ukraine/Nuland call was the best. An instant classic.
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Quoted: And so many of them were recorded talking about who their personal picks for a new Ukrainian government were and getting the VP (Biden) to give the alphabet agencies an “attaboy” for all their subversive work, lol. Remember that Biden was the lead on the Ukrainian adventure and that his aide Anna Makanju was both his aide to Ukraine and the DoD’s “expert” on NATO policy. She knew that we could get Ukraine entangled and not trigger NATO articles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1647_jpeg-3150216.JPG Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1650_jpeg-3150217.JPG Laughing at the Russian talking points that simply get echoed and repeated by “alt media”. Oh no, a career politician/diplomat leaves. Trump had a ton of folks leave and come on during his 4 years. And so many of them were recorded talking about who their personal picks for a new Ukrainian government were and getting the VP (Biden) to give the alphabet agencies an “attaboy” for all their subversive work, lol. Remember that Biden was the lead on the Ukrainian adventure and that his aide Anna Makanju was both his aide to Ukraine and the DoD’s “expert” on NATO policy. She knew that we could get Ukraine entangled and not trigger NATO articles. Ayup |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1647_jpeg-3150216.JPG Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1650_jpeg-3150217.JPG Laughing at the Russian talking points that simply get echoed and repeated by “alt media”. Oh no, a career politician/diplomat leaves. Trump had a ton of folks leave and come on during his 4 years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Originally Posted By tsg68: He needs the moral high ground to justify buying the surplus armor later… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1647_jpeg-3150216.JPG Russia seems to do a good enough job leaving it around for me to collect https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_1650_jpeg-3150217.JPG Laughing at the Russian talking points that simply get echoed and repeated by “alt media”. Oh no, a career politician/diplomat leaves. Trump had a ton of folks leave and come on during his 4 years. Attached File |
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Nuland is to Ukraine as Fauci is to Covid. What was Nuland’s job at the State Department supposed to be? Diplomacy. What did she actually do? Foment conflict with Russia. What was Fauci’s job at NIH? Public health. What did he actually do? Fund dangerous gain-of-function research. These powerful unelected bureaucrats, who run the government across administrations, are literally doing the opposite of what they’re supposed to. They’re not making us safe. They’re causing crisis after crisis. Nothing will change until we get rid of them. |
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The pant suits queen is leaving huh?
She's an extremely unimpressive person and they're all extremely unimpressive people in D.C. who are surrounded by a small army of sycophantic brown nosers who tell them nonstop that they're wizards of smart The carnage and destruction that can be laid at that woman's feet is impressive though and I think would surprise most people. |
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Look at all these fine folks our ukebros implicitly defend, vigorously.
"F**k the EU" - US diplomat embarrassed after undiplomatic language caught on tape |
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Quoted: Look at all these fine folks our ukebros implicitly defend, vigorously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdygnTrrGVI View Quote Ayup Pure evil |
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We still have Brzezinski’s kid as ambassador to Poland too…talk about letting the foxes in the hen house.
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You have to wonder just how many people are dead because of her influence on policy.
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Victoria's husband almost certainly told her to GTFO now:
{Trump's coming} administration will be filled with people with enemies’ lists of their own, a determined cadre of “vetted” officials who will see it as their sole, presidentially authorized mission to “root out” those in the government who cannot be trusted. Many will simply be fired, but others will be subject to career-destroying investigations...Nor will it be difficult to find things to charge opponents with....Can such “anti-American” behavior be criminalized? It has in the past and can be again. View Quote Getting out now gives her more time to bury the evidence and be prepared to leave the country. There is also still time for the paid trolls on ARFCOM to get out while they still can. |
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Quoted: The Leaked Ukraine/Nuland call was the best. An instant classic. View Quote Ironically, that’s the only statement she got right. |
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Full thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1765092971001848154.html |
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Quoted: The pant suits queen is leaving huh? She's an extremely unimpressive person and they're all extremely unimpressive people in D.C. who are surrounded by a small army of sycophantic brown nosers who tell them nonstop that they're wizards of smart The carnage and destruction that can be laid at that woman's feet is impressive though and I think would surprise most people. View Quote Unimpressive is right. Remember Marco Rubio trying to lead her through that testimony after the war kicked off? Embarrassing. |
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Quoted: Victoria's husband almost certainly told her to GTFO now: Getting out now gives her more time to bury the evidence and be prepared to leave the country. There is also still time for the paid trolls on ARFCOM to get out while they still can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Victoria's husband almost certainly told her to GTFO now: {Trump's coming} administration will be filled with people with enemies’ lists of their own, a determined cadre of “vetted” officials who will see it as their sole, presidentially authorized mission to “root out” those in the government who cannot be trusted. Many will simply be fired, but others will be subject to career-destroying investigations...Nor will it be difficult to find things to charge opponents with....Can such “anti-American” behavior be criminalized? It has in the past and can be again. Getting out now gives her more time to bury the evidence and be prepared to leave the country. There is also still time for the paid trolls on ARFCOM to get out while they still can. Yes. |
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Robert Kagan is almost confessing on behalf of Washington here:
And who is to say that those being hounded are not in fact tax cheaters, or Chinese spies, or perverts, or whatever they might be accused of? View Quote https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/30/trump-dictator-2024-election-robert-kagan/ |
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