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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:52:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. 
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:53:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Let that come out of the billionaire owners pockets
The citizens own no stake in the franchises and see no direct gain so why should they be saddled with wasted taxes? |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:54:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:54:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It will get shoved down their throats anyway. Politicians love box seats. This is the Seattle way. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:58:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Yes! Fuck Bally's. The ads for vote yes were CRAZY! "Dont let the radical Left take away the Chiefs!"
 Suburban Jackson County is tired of paying for inner city initiatives and the POS Emmanuel Cleaver does shit to represent the suburban voters. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 9:59:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Fuck all these fucking owners demanding new or updated stadiums from tax payers… pay it your fucking self.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:00:10 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let that come out of the billionaire owners pockets The citizens own no stake in the franchises and see no direct gain so why should they be saddled with wasted taxes? You're not thinking about all the seasonal, part-time, minimum wage jobs that stadiums support. At least, that's the way they try to sell it to the taxpayers. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:01:10 AM EDT
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The people need to build that stadium!
How else will the owners be able to get wealthy? Think of all the TV and advertising deals! You people will have the privilege of buying from us $150 seats and a $40 hot dogs & beer combo, not to mention having 'our' team. So give us the tax money and shut the fuck up. Peasants. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:04:19 AM EDT
[#9]
Public risk, private gain.
"Stadium funding tax" when you rent a car in the surrounding area of Detroit. Goes right to the Illitch family. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:15:58 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Exactly, if it’s such h a good idea, they can pay for it. Fuck that noise. We said the same thing in my state. The team said they would leave, guess what, no one would take their stupid plan and they are still here. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:18:46 AM EDT
[#11]
Good.
If owners can afford to pay players millions of dollars, then they can build their own stadium. Why should taxpayers foot the bill? |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:20:41 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the owners pay for the whole thing |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:21:08 AM EDT
[#13]
Sign of the times where people are sick of being taxed to death directly and indirectly (inflation)
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:27:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Good. It is amazing at how many times the taxpayers have been screwed over buy all the leagues and stadiums.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:27:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Nevada legislators just vote it in without any voter input. First the raiders, now some fucking mlb team, saw last nite they are tearing down the Tropicana for the new stadium. I don't give a fuck about vegas or sportsball, but I damn sure resent paying for it. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:36:33 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like a cold beer and a hot dog at a ball game as much as the next red blooded american but fuck paying for these stadiums. the billionaires that own these teams worth hundreds of millions to billions of dollars can fund it themselves or find their own damn financing. How do you think they amassed their fortune? |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:37:55 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. It is amazing at how many times the taxpayers have been screwed over buy all the leagues and stadiums. Voters in Texas flock to the polls to make sure their taxes are raised to build new high school football stadiums. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:41:58 AM EDT
[#18]
For people that only occasionally attend a game, they are probably farther ahead traveling to a statium in another city rather than paying the high sales tax. That's assuming they don't work in a business that directly supports the statium.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:48:14 AM EDT
[#19]
they will get it built...then they will charge outlandish personal seat licenses just for the privilege of buying your season tickets.....
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:49:10 AM EDT
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The Chiefs have 300 million of their own money to spend? Then spend it. You can do a lot of renovation for that much money. You just won't have enough to support all the graft, and that's ok.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:53:32 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the owners pay for the whole thing That's definitely how it should be. Tax payers shouldn't be subsidizing this. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:56:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They wanted to move the Royals stadium into the inner city, which would place all sorts of problems on people wanting to attend. This is also a symptom of east vs west Jackson County, MO. This would shift other auxiliary revenue streams to downtown Kansas City, MO and away from the “good” cities found in east Jackson County. Eastern Jackson County should move forward with splitting to create “Truman County” and take both stadiums away from the county as a result. They have also removed Royals from public access TV viewing, who wants to pay for the stadiums and then have to pay for a streaming TV service to watch the game? Thats nuts. Oh! As an East JaCo resident, is there groups/petitions etc for this? I loathe the current Jackson county gov't and the KC aspects of it. Would love to see the county split! And yeah, I voted No as well. Let the billionaires buy a new stadium for their millionaires to play sports in. (And moving Royals downtown is absolutely pants on head stupid. The parking and traffic nightmare alone isn't worth all that!) |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:57:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. Biggest open scam there is. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 10:59:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck paying for that shit by the public. This, fuck paying for their sportsball faggotry out of my own damn pockets, and then having to pay for tickets to the games, too. Government has no business taking out money to pay for half the shit they’ve volunteered our money for. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:01:35 AM EDT
[#25]
That is one thing that does piss me off about the NFL. If they don't get their way with upgraded stadiums, they pout and threaten to leave to another city, who will "Appreciate" them more!
"Cough" Raiders "Cough" |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:02:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Vegas probably isn't that full yet.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:02:57 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh! As an East JaCo resident, is there groups/petitions etc for this? I loathe the current Jackson county gov't and the KC aspects of it. Would love to see the county split! And yeah, I voted No as well. Let the billionaires buy a new stadium for their millionaires to play sports in. (And moving Royals downtown is absolutely pants on head stupid. The parking and traffic nightmare alone isn't worth all that!) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They wanted to move the Royals stadium into the inner city, which would place all sorts of problems on people wanting to attend. This is also a symptom of east vs west Jackson County, MO. This would shift other auxiliary revenue streams to downtown Kansas City, MO and away from the “good” cities found in east Jackson County. Eastern Jackson County should move forward with splitting to create “Truman County” and take both stadiums away from the county as a result. They have also removed Royals from public access TV viewing, who wants to pay for the stadiums and then have to pay for a streaming TV service to watch the game? Thats nuts. Oh! As an East JaCo resident, is there groups/petitions etc for this? I loathe the current Jackson county gov't and the KC aspects of it. Would love to see the county split! And yeah, I voted No as well. Let the billionaires buy a new stadium for their millionaires to play sports in. (And moving Royals downtown is absolutely pants on head stupid. The parking and traffic nightmare alone isn't worth all that!) There is a push in eastern Jackson and Truman County is the name thrown around. I am not in that county, so I have not followed it closely. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:05:14 AM EDT
[#28]
Good! Sports teams should cover their own costs.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:05:23 AM EDT
[#29]
Maybe they should just jack up the cost of parking. I paid $65 to park there last summer….such a deal (yeah, that’s sarcasm).
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:05:25 AM EDT
[#30]
But Tay Tay will be in attendance
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:09:03 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PA has some hook McFook deal that allows the state, counties, cities to build whatever the fuck they want if they call it a convention center. Penguins farm team in Wilkes-Barre arena got built that way. After it was voted down in a referendum. Same judge jailed for “cash for kids” scandal (Ciavarella) was involved. I’m sure he got cash for that too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Happened in Pittsburgh, they threw in a new convention center too. PA has some hook McFook deal that allows the state, counties, cities to build whatever the fuck they want if they call it a convention center. Penguins farm team in Wilkes-Barre arena got built that way. After it was voted down in a referendum. Same judge jailed for “cash for kids” scandal (Ciavarella) was involved. I’m sure he got cash for that too. It happened in NEPA of course it was corrupt. I recall that's why it's in Wilkes Barre Township and not the city. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:09:27 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me guess they went to move to Las Vegas too  They’ll probably do what the Patriots did. MA didn’t want to give Kraft the money to build Gillette so he entered into negotiations to build a stadium in New Haven, CT, which got MA to cave and give him the cash. The city of New Haven was pissed, though. They sued him for negotiating in bad faith (or something along those lines) because they realized they were duped. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:12:02 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They wanted to move the Royals stadium into the inner city, which would place all sorts of problems on people wanting to attend. This is also a symptom of east vs west Jackson County, MO. This would shift other auxiliary revenue streams to downtown Kansas City, MO and away from the “good” cities found in east Jackson County. Eastern Jackson County should move forward with splitting to create “Truman County” and take both stadiums away from the county as a result. They have also removed Royals from public access TV viewing, who wants to pay for the stadiums and then have to pay for a streaming TV service to watch the game? Thats nuts. That’s what the Rams did. They built their new stadium in Inglewood. It gentrified Inglewood forcing a lot of multi-generational families out because housing costs skyrocketed. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:13:33 AM EDT
[#34]
In ChiCAgo, the owner of the White Sox is talking about A) a new stadium partially funded by taxpayers, or B) moving the team to Nashville at some future point.
He's in his mid 80's, and has told his sons to sell the Sox, and keep the Bulls which they also own. Number one, he pulled the same shit in the late '80's, and got his way. That stadium dates to 1991 and is in good shape. There is really no reason to build another one. The governor at the time got the financing through, and the owner that time used Florida as the boogeyman. Number two, the team sucks out loud, and is in the middle of another rebuild. But don't call it a rebuild. He won't sign the free agents required to compete, and the team even with its lousy history is worth almost $2 billion. He can pay for it himself. The state is already close to broke and so is Chicago. You want to leave, don't let the door hit ya', where the good Lord split ya'. Comically enough, the manager, GM, and quite a few players were formally with the Royals organization. Although the GM did play for the White Sox in his playing days before getting traded to KC. If the miserable owner does move the team, I'll watch the Cardinals or find something else to do. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:13:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Leverage , " you better build us a new stadium or else ".
Home town team until the money dries up , then it's so long , nice knowing you . |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:14:02 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kansas city already taxes a 1% income tax on top of existing sales tax. Maybe they should learn to budget. KC working residents or people that live outside of KC but work IN KC pay the 1% wage earners tax. Businesses in KC charge an extra 2% sales tax (Convention & Tourism). Sales tax at one of our locations is almost 12%. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:14:10 AM EDT
[#37]
I would sure like to see a new royals ball park, but taxing for it is not cool. KC already taxes too much and spends on complete shit. Crossroads area is good spot.....we moved our shop from there two years ago. Have at it!
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:17:44 AM EDT
[#38]
Team owners don't want to pay for most of it or own it because that means they're locked in that town and can't bolt for greener pastures.
Does St. Louis still want a football team? |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:19:05 AM EDT
[#39]
Ha-ha! Let the business cover it's own expenses.
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:20:20 AM EDT
[#40]
The owners just need to follow the Las Vegas tax model. Instead of asking the voters to tax themselves to pay for it through a sales tax, ask them to force tourists to pay for it through a hotel occupancy tax.
What's a "fair" tax? A tax that somebody else pays. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:20:35 AM EDT
[#41]
Stadiums NEVER made sense to me. Why do the tax payers foot the bill, pay to get in, and then get raped by concession prices..... while the owners bank hundreds of millions of dollars and fly around in private jets?
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:21:24 AM EDT
[#42]
Good. Nothing against sports, but the general public shouldn't be taxed for it. The government shouldn't really be involved. It's not a "community good" like a road or sidewalk. Other businesses have to build their locations on their own dime, why should this be different?
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:21:27 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, Jackson county is probably the poorest county in the metro. Johnson County wouldn't balk at a 3/8th cent sales tax to keep the stadiums in Jackson county. Or, too keep them out of Johnson County. lol Occasionally I look for property in Johnson County, but the west end is too close to KC for comfort. My kids think I should move to Grandview or Belton. Clinton is close enough. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:23:38 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good!!! Sadly they will push it even harder now and force the bill upon the unwilling masses. Now the really shady shit will start because there are some folk that stand to make a ton of money off this deal. Im sure the whole process will go about as well as that shit show airport. Besides that..... Putting it downtown (Crossroads) is grade-a fucking retarded anyway! Anybody that has been to Power and Light knows that. Where the hell is a parking lot big enough for all the cars that go to a Chiefs game????????? That's what the taxpayer funded light rail project is for, silly head 
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:25:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good!!! Sadly they will push it even harder now and force the bill upon the unwilling masses. Now the really shady shit will start because there are some folk that stand to make a ton of money off this deal. Im sure the whole process will go about as well as that shit show airport. Besides that..... Putting it downtown (Crossroads) is grade-a fucking retarded anyway! Anybody that has been to Power and Light knows that. Where the hell is a parking lot big enough for all the cars that go to a Chiefs game????????? The current location is a good balance of access, space, and already too close to downtown. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:30:45 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure, let’s waste billions building a new colosseum , maybe offer free bread, keep people distracted up until we’re actively feeding Christians to lions again, to distract from how bad things are getting all across our society. Then again, the way things are going maybe we could start live streaming rehabilitation 2.0, much more interesting than ball games.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLts-sXlLEMI would lay down decent coin to see Tylenol Jones and Beef Supreme. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:37:51 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the owners pay for the whole thing |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:40:20 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Straight up theft from tax payers. The Chiefs alone, have a team evaluation of 4.3 billion dollars. And they want hundreds of millions from tax payers… for what? $14 beers, $200 tickets, etc etc. Yeah go fuck yourself. Cleveland is trying to do the same thing with the browns. Fuck off. Yeah I live in Clay county (just north of Jackson) but I'd have voted this down also. A MLB stadium in crossroads is stupid. And for my wife and I to attend a Chiefs game is going to be at least $500, for 3.5 hours of football and another 3.5 hours of getting into and out of the parking lot. I hope the Chiefs stay in KC, but honestly I've gotten to witness some of the best football that has ever been played in the last 5 years and if they left now, well...it wouldn't be the end of the world. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:41:35 AM EDT
[#49]
Fuck all that.
Let the ball sport teams & fans maintain what they have, and build a huge, multi use racetrack. Put it allll on the ground…. drag, dirt rally, road course, clay oval, paved oval (both complete with figure 8’s), motorcross. Build a Motorsports Mecca on a few hundred cheap acres, and let the people enjoy something that’s good for something other than a few games per year. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:41:48 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our county commission is corrupt to the core! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let me guess they went to move to Las Vegas too Vegas will pay for it without asking voters. Our county commission is corrupt to the core! And stupid. Putting Allegiant stadium so close to the freeway was stupid. Putting the new A's stadium right there in the middle of the Strip is industrial strength stupid. What the holy blue fuq are these idiots thinking??? 
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