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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:27:27 AM EDT
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Saluting the flag used to be a thing. Snipping out all the images. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:35:23 AM EDT
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?"
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:44:18 AM EDT
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Whats with the 2 random lunch ladies sitting on either side of the group
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:47:28 AM EDT
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Well, when it takes only a little more than a month to train them, I'm sure they can have a new crop in there lickety-split! You lose those thirty, class spots are open, so another thirty will be sent, which leaves them in the hole for thirty certified officers. If there is a "investigation" and the whole shebang gets shuts down then you will have a backlog of un-certified officers which sucks because you can only use them for certain things. I think it is stupid as hell to fire them....Admonish them sure but I don't see what they did as anymore than a tone-deaf prank. 
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:54:20 AM EDT
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I'm impressed that WV has a jail cops academy.
Losing those two women on the ends of the front row will lighten the load by four people. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:55:53 AM EDT
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" GTFO man. That's a nazi salute. You guys pussy footing around it doesn't make it less evil. A LOT of great American men (and some great American women) died trying to scrub the earth of anyone who subscribed to that way of thinking. I can't believe you guys are trying to sugar coat this as not a big deal. Those are public servants. Not any old joe blow. If it were black officers signaling black power this forum would want them all canned. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 9:59:14 AM EDT
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Given the political climate? For real? GTFO man. That's a nazi salute. You guys pussy footing around it doesn't make it less evil. A LOT of great American men (and some great American women) died trying to scrub the earth of anyone who subscribed to that way of thinking. I can't believe you guys are trying to sugar coat this as not a big deal. Those are public servants. Not any old joe blow. If it were black officers signaling black power this forum would want them all canned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" GTFO man. That's a nazi salute. You guys pussy footing around it doesn't make it less evil. A LOT of great American men (and some great American women) died trying to scrub the earth of anyone who subscribed to that way of thinking. I can't believe you guys are trying to sugar coat this as not a big deal. Those are public servants. Not any old joe blow. If it were black officers signaling black power this forum would want them all canned. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:00:20 AM EDT
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eehhhhhhhh I got nothing ..... but embarrassment
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:02:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the black power fist is a sign of unity to west point cadets. They didn't get fired, either should these |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:04:41 AM EDT
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Imagine being a black dude and having to explain how you got fired for doing the Nazi salute
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:07:56 AM EDT
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" We should absolutely care when government employees do a Nazi salute. Just like we were all outraged when government employees did the black power salute. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:08:05 AM EDT
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eehhhhhhhh I got nothing ..... but embarrassment LOL....Just finding thirty people to pass a drug test and willing to work for $17.00 a hour in WV is quite the feat. 
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:08:42 AM EDT
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Lol. Who actually gives a fuck? Mel Brooks would be lynched today...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCf9VRLnDY |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:17:26 AM EDT
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2 wrongs don't make a right bud. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: But the black power fist is a sign of unity to west point cadets. They didn't get fired, either should these |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:28:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is firing them for a stupid hand sign right? |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:36:53 AM EDT
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The opinion of myself and others around here is ...
Good Stupid should hurt |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:38:55 AM EDT
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Yes. It's not just a stupid hand sign. You thinking that tells me you can't think critically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Is firing them for a stupid hand sign right? |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:39:22 AM EDT
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Imagine being a black dude and having to explain how you got fired for doing the Nazi salute |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:42:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And you are empowering the culture Marxism and PC that is destroying our society |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:42:55 AM EDT
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It really doesn't matter because the gesture is associated with white nationalize and in particular Hitler. The whole "OK" gesture is a case of PC run amok but this is a bit different. Think about it this way. Say these cadets were to make it to a jail. And say a black or Hispanic inmate files a claim of mistreatment and then their lawyer discovers this photo. We all know it would end up costing the state tons of money in a settlements because the second a minority inmate makes a claim, and a jury is shown that the guard accused was photographed making the sieg hail sign then its going to be a pretty much open and shut case in 2020. Part of being in a job like law enforcement is having good judgement, and being willingly photographed doing this is pretty poor judgement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They were hailing their instructor, in what was clearly a gesture poking fun at, not showing support for, Nazis. They were not hailing Hitler. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2019/12/31/TELEMMGLPICT000220100213_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqng10RN4OACF490UF0AcEIptB_DuUZn4bsGq3sU8trTc.jpeg?imwidth=1400 This is PC run amok. Think about it this way. Say these cadets were to make it to a jail. And say a black or Hispanic inmate files a claim of mistreatment and then their lawyer discovers this photo. We all know it would end up costing the state tons of money in a settlements because the second a minority inmate makes a claim, and a jury is shown that the guard accused was photographed making the sieg hail sign then its going to be a pretty much open and shut case in 2020. Part of being in a job like law enforcement is having good judgement, and being willingly photographed doing this is pretty poor judgement. 
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:47:02 AM EDT
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They were hailing their instructor, in what was clearly a gesture poking fun at, not showing support for, Nazis. They were not hailing Hitler. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2019/12/31/TELEMMGLPICT000220100213_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqng10RN4OACF490UF0AcEIptB_DuUZn4bsGq3sU8trTc.jpeg?imwidth=1400 This is PC run amok. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:48:06 AM EDT
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Bullshit. Hitler doesn't own that salute. Guarantee if the black cadets gave the black power salute they would be featured as heroes on a cereal box.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:50:00 AM EDT
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Are you fucking kidding? Those are public servants. Doing a nazi salute... IN UNIFORM. And you're good with that? I see a couple of closed fists in their too - which I am totally not going to allow myself to become outraged about, either. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:50:43 AM EDT
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Bullshit. Hitler doesn't own that salute. Guarantee if the black cadets gave the black power salute they would be featured as heroes on a cereal box. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:56:33 AM EDT
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Political correctness stifles free speech. First amendment be scary yo. So let's be Nazis because holding your arm out makes you a Nazi.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 10:57:13 AM EDT
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Are you fucking kidding? Those are public servants. Doing a nazi salute... IN UNIFORM. And you're good with that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: And you are empowering the culture Marxism and PC that is destroying our society Cultural Marxism |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:10:10 AM EDT
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Do you know the intent, or is the salute itself grounds for dismissal. Cultural Marxism Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:15:46 AM EDT
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The intent doesn't really matter in today's environment. It's easy to anticipate an adverse reaction to such a photo. Assume that they were not fired for the salute - they were fired for being incredibly stupid and myopic. They clearly demonstrated these traits, and being public employees, I have no problem with them being off of the taxpayers' payroll. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: And you are empowering the culture Marxism and PC that is destroying our society Cultural Marxism Why empower them? They are now try to associate the OK symbol with white power and destroy anyone who uses it. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:17:48 AM EDT
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The NAZI salute is a little more straight out. Not sure what is going on here.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:19:36 AM EDT
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Play stupid games....
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:19:58 AM EDT
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I think the taxpayers are going to get raped for this free speech violation.
It's their neighbor East Virginia that has a governor that was photographed in black face was it not?
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:21:16 AM EDT
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We have a German heritages guy at work with the name adolf.
I need to watch the cameras more. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:24:06 AM EDT
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Welcome to 2019 where holding your hand a certain way can land you on the unemployment wagon. I hope nobody ever pulls up a photo of me hailing an uber |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:24:23 AM EDT
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Bullshit. Hitler doesn't own that salute. Guarantee if the black cadets gave the black power salute they would be featured as heroes on a cereal box. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:25:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today's environment is a result of the left pushing the PC culture. Why empower them? They are now try to associate the OK symbol with white power and destroy anyone who uses it.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:30:03 AM EDT
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Found the closeted KKK apologist. By the way, "hailing" an uber by sticking your arm out isn't even a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Welcome to 2019 where holding your hand a certain way can land you on the unemployment wagon. I hope nobody ever pulls up a photo of me hailing an uber |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:32:02 AM EDT
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Pretty soon they will be firing anyone with a little moustache as well Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit. Hitler doesn't own that salute. Guarantee if the black cadets gave the black power salute they would be featured as heroes on a cereal box. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:36:57 AM EDT
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Today's environment is a result of the left pushing the PC culture. Why empower them? They are now try to associate the OK symbol with white power and destroy anyone who uses it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: And you are empowering the culture Marxism and PC that is destroying our society Cultural Marxism Why empower them? They are now try to associate the OK symbol with white power and destroy anyone who uses it. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:47:30 AM EDT
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Given the political climate? For real? GTFO man. That's a nazi salute. You guys pussy footing around it doesn't make it less evil. A LOT of great American men (and some great American women) died trying to scrub the earth of anyone who subscribed to that way of thinking. I can't believe you guys are trying to sugar coat this as not a big deal. Those are public servants. Not any old joe blow. If it were black officers signaling black power this forum would want them all canned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" GTFO man. That's a nazi salute. You guys pussy footing around it doesn't make it less evil. A LOT of great American men (and some great American women) died trying to scrub the earth of anyone who subscribed to that way of thinking. I can't believe you guys are trying to sugar coat this as not a big deal. Those are public servants. Not any old joe blow. If it were black officers signaling black power this forum would want them all canned. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 11:59:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are absolutely correct and this image would have eventually came back to haunt the officers and the agency. One questionable use of force is all it would take. I'm not sure why the Governor is involved. I'm assuming these are probationary staff and can be fired for any reason during their first year. There is literally no fucking way anyone in that room did not know how it would be perceived. Especially with the stupid Heil Byrd chant. The state of West Virginia would be stupid as fuck to keep any of these idiots employed. It would pop up in every use of force review and cost the state thousands into the millions in legal fees and hours to defend them because they thought it would be fun to take a picture in uniform giving the nazi salute. These guys won the stupid games lotto |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can see some stupid joking around in front of the camera. Not excusing the inappropriateness of the salute. But WTF was the photographer and printer thinking to use THAT photo?! Any manager approve its publishing? You sure as hell don’t need to click the shutter when stupid is happening. And NFW should you be printing something like that for public distribution. A lot of more senior PD staff should be canned before the cadets. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:07:34 PM EDT
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they said hail Byrd not heil Hitler for crying' out loud. quick expunge the world of all the Hogan's Heroes episodes too...for fear of the dreaded making fun of stuff Expunge all the things. You can’t even make fun of Nazis anymore. Can’t mention them. PC principal will expunge you. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:07:51 PM EDT
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Nobody has a sense of humor anymore.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:09:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:10:46 PM EDT
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Time out. We should absolutely care when government employees do a Nazi salute. Just like we were all outraged when government employees did the black power salute. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" We should absolutely care when government employees do a Nazi salute. Just like we were all outraged when government employees did the black power salute. Refusing to consider context is refusing to think. Zero tolerance is zero thought. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:13:36 PM EDT
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I'm impressed that WV has a jail cops academy. Losing those two women on the ends of the front row will lighten the load by four people.
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:15:05 PM EDT
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This guy gets it. There is literally no fucking way anyone in that room did not know how it would be perceived. Especially with the stupid Heil Byrd chant. The state of West Virginia would be stupid as fuck to keep any of these idiots employed. It would pop up in every use of force review and cost the state thousands into the millions in legal fees and hours to defend them because they thought it would be fun to take a picture in uniform giving the nazi salute. These guys won the stupid games lotto Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You are absolutely correct and this image would have eventually came back to haunt the officers and the agency. One questionable use of force is all it would take. I'm not sure why the Governor is involved. I'm assuming these are probationary staff and can be fired for any reason during their first year. There is literally no fucking way anyone in that room did not know how it would be perceived. Especially with the stupid Heil Byrd chant. The state of West Virginia would be stupid as fuck to keep any of these idiots employed. It would pop up in every use of force review and cost the state thousands into the millions in legal fees and hours to defend them because they thought it would be fun to take a picture in uniform giving the nazi salute. These guys won the stupid games lotto 
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:15:30 PM EDT
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Oh yeah when you see that salute it just makes you swell with pride for free speech huh? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bullshit. Hitler doesn't own that salute. Guarantee if the black cadets gave the black power salute they would be featured as heroes on a cereal box. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:20:53 PM EDT
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Context is everything. Refusing to consider context is refusing to think. Zero tolerance is zero thought. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm torn between "they are idiots that should have known better given the political climate" and "why do people care about stupid shit like this so much that they fire people over it?" We should absolutely care when government employees do a Nazi salute. Just like we were all outraged when government employees did the black power salute. Refusing to consider context is refusing to think. Zero tolerance is zero thought. |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 12:23:48 PM EDT
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Knee-jerk overreaction.
Making mountains out of molehills. Political correctness is killing this country. |
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