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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:03:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d pick the Corsair. You are gonna have to be an expert at airplane noises and a strongman to boot. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:03:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s up with all the .30 carbine love? Never shot one, but they do seem underpowered. It’s a great little gun, super handy. Much more effective with modern hollow point ammo. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:03:49 AM EDT
[#3]
I’m torn between the M1 carbine and the M1 garand. The idea of a close range firefight possibly ending with a banzai charge makes me want a garand to totally and utterly disable a charging soldier instantly.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:04:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a great little gun, super handy. Much more effective with modern hollow point ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What’s up with all the .30 carbine love? Never shot one, but they do seem underpowered. It’s a great little gun, super handy. Much more effective with modern hollow point ammo. We are shooting ball ammo though. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:06:52 AM EDT
[#5]
M1 carbine. The Tommy gun would eat ammo too fast hard to carry enough 45 as heavy it is considering how fast you're going to eat it.
Second choice probably the Garand. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:07:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are shooting ball ammo though. still more powerful than 99% of the pistols people swear by. But to most, actual facts seem to matter not a whit. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:09:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: still more powerful than 99% of the pistols people swear by. But to most, actual facts seem to matter not a whit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are shooting ball ammo though. still more powerful than 99% of the pistols people swear by. But to most, actual facts seem to matter not a whit. The pistol guys didn't get to carry something bigger. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:11:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Marines pulled all the 1911s out of the infantry and artillery regiments and replaced them with carbines. Not all of them. My dad was a 105MM Howitzer crewman. There were still 1911’s to be had. Things weren’t exactly followed in the islands. A guy on another battery had a .38 revolver. Dad had no idea if it was a Colt or S&W. He just remembered a revolver like the police carried. Also some Marines were still equipped with 1903’s. Mostly the non-combat guys in the rear. He told me he used a blonde stocked 1903 in boot camp that was extremely accurate. He loved that rifle. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:12:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. You weren't given a choice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whatever they handed to you and told you to carry This. You weren't given a choice. While that's true I think there was plenty of swapping and changing around that probably went on later. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:13:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Winchester model 97 with plenty of buckshot.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:14:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m torn between the M1 carbine and the M1 garand. The idea of a close range firefight possibly ending with a banzai charge makes me want a garand to totally and utterly disable a charging soldier instantly. My dad liked the double magazine capacity of his carbine during the Banzai charges. He and the crew would take cover under and around the howitzer. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:22:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s up with all the .30 carbine love? Never shot one, but they do seem underpowered. Almost double the capacity of a Grand, less than 6lbs loaded, fairly compact and plenty accurate (especially at jungle ranges). Rapid follow up shots and the ability to transition to a new target faster than a Garand. Basically the AR-15 of its day. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:32:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Little Boy and Fat Man
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:49:34 AM EDT
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I bet most of you who voted carbine have never run the Garand
the 110gr Round nose FMJ at 1900fps was a notoriously underpowered round the M1 carbine was a REMF gun Riflemen got the Garand  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:53:10 AM EDT
[#15]
I picked M1 carbine, but I'd take a Tommy also. I prefer an m2 carbine.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 10:59:40 AM EDT
[#16]
My father had a Garand. I'd stick with that.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 11:01:17 AM EDT
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As far as the carbine goes, this is what Col. George wrote in "Shots Fired in Anger", anexcellent analysis of small arm used in the Pacific-
The development of the carbine had the effect of putting a good offensive-defensive weapon in the hands of the leader and gun crew member, thereby making him the near-equal of an M1 rifleman . The cartridge was powerful enough to penetrate several thicknesses of helmet, and to perforate the plates of the Japanese bullet proof vests, which would only be dented by .45 auto slugs. It was flat shooting enough to have practical accuracy at more than two hundred yards. It would be interesting to know how many casualties it created during the war. Certainly more than all the pistols and revolvers our military has ever used. The great advantage was that it got a gun that could shoot into the hands of the average Infantryman. The pistol, as far as general usage is concerned, is a purely defensive weapon, accurate only when in the hands of an expert. The carbine performed moderately well in the hands of dubs. For many types of offensive fighting, such as sneak raids and infiltration tactics, it was often superior even to the M1, penetration being the only point of difference. The greatest advantage of the carbine was its lightweight, which is the greatest advantage any Infantry weapon can have. Of ail the guns we used in this war it is the only one which does not need further reduction in heft. The rest are all too heavy for the job they do. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 11:03:09 AM EDT
[#18]
I think in WW2 it would be hard to beat an M1 carbine if I had a reliable source of good mags.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 11:39:37 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet most of you who voted carbine have never run the Garand the 110gr Round nose FMJ at 1900fps was a notoriously underpowered round the M1 carbine was a REMF gun Riflemen got the Garand https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2275/07FDC5DF-AC68-4557-A1A6-4B167211170B_jpe-2780788.JPG    |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:23:47 PM EDT
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There were plenty of M1 Carbines up front in a late war USMC Rifle company. Per TOE, the company HQ section and every Plt Ldr, Plt Sgt, Mortar man and Machine gun crew was carrying one as was the assistant automatic rifleman in every fireteam. To call it a pogues weapon is simply not true.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:32:23 PM EDT
[#21]
I'd prefer a Johnson LMG, but wouldn't say no to a BAR.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:36:31 PM EDT
[#22]
M1941 Johnson Automatic
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:42:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Having been a Marine infantryman in the 1970's I have some idea what I would prefer. Give me a Stinger. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgecTgbz3ik&feature=youtu.be) |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:54:24 PM EDT
[#24]
M4 Sherman
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Posted: 4/13/2023 1:59:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Of the choices, M1 Carbine. Of the weapons issued, the M1941 Johnson.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:03:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Poll fail! No trench gun.
Model 12 for me |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:08:47 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of the choices, M1 Carbine. Of the weapons issued, the M1941 Johnson. The Johnson never had a proper pouch for a rifleman. There was a 12 magazine backpack pouch for use as an LMG. I believe rifleman were suppose to wear a standard M1923 cartridge belt and feed the Johnson’s internal 10 round mag with 5 round M1903 stripper clips. I’m not clear if the magazine could have been used in the rifle configuration. Due to the reciprocating barrel I’ve read the Johnson couldn’t reliably mount a bayonet and still cycle. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:13:32 PM EDT
[#28]
Skip the crew and just give me a 1919 with backpack.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:16:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's up with all the .30 carbine love? Never shot one, but they do seem underpowered. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:16:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:19:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Thompson seems like a pretty good Bush gun.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:19:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Johnson never had a proper pouch for a rifleman. There was a 12 magazine backpack pouch for use as an LMG. I believe rifleman were suppose to wear a standard M1923 cartridge belt and feed the Johnson’s internal 10 round mag with 5 round M1903 stripper clips. I’m not clear if the magazine could have been used in the rifle configuration. Due to the reciprocating barrel I’ve read the Johnson couldn’t reliably mount a bayonet and still cycle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of the choices, M1 Carbine. Of the weapons issued, the M1941 Johnson. The Johnson never had a proper pouch for a rifleman. There was a 12 magazine backpack pouch for use as an LMG. I believe rifleman were suppose to wear a standard M1923 cartridge belt and feed the Johnson’s internal 10 round mag with 5 round M1903 stripper clips. I’m not clear if the magazine could have been used in the rifle configuration. Due to the reciprocating barrel I’ve read the Johnson couldn’t reliably mount a bayonet and still cycle. I would absolutely take ten rounds in a magazine which i can top off without emptying it, fed by stripper clips, in a rifle with similar performance by all accounts, over the M1 Garand. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:31:01 PM EDT
[#34]
What weapon would you carry in the Pacific as an infantry US Marine in WWII? Probably the one you were issued/authorized. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 2:31:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Grease gun and a S&W 1917.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:01:58 PM EDT
[#36]
An Uzi but they were still being invented
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:06:16 PM EDT
[#37]
I will also through in the Johnson Autocarbine, which was carried by at least one Marine officer.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:08:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would absolutely take ten rounds in a magazine which i can top off without emptying it, fed by stripper clips, in a rifle with similar performance by all accounts, over the M1 Garand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Of the choices, M1 Carbine. Of the weapons issued, the M1941 Johnson. The Johnson never had a proper pouch for a rifleman. There was a 12 magazine backpack pouch for use as an LMG. I believe rifleman were suppose to wear a standard M1923 cartridge belt and feed the Johnson’s internal 10 round mag with 5 round M1903 stripper clips. I’m not clear if the magazine could have been used in the rifle configuration. Due to the reciprocating barrel I’ve read the Johnson couldn’t reliably mount a bayonet and still cycle. I would absolutely take ten rounds in a magazine which i can top off without emptying it, fed by stripper clips, in a rifle with similar performance by all accounts, over the M1 Garand. Choosing the Johnson means no bayonet and that means no spirit of the bayonet. So you better be sharpening your E-tool. When the banzai charge comes they will be wielding Arisaka Type 99 Rifles (44” OAL + 20” with type 30 Bayonet). |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:12:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Choosing the Johnson means no bayonet and that means no spirit of the bayonet. So you better be sharpening your E-tool. When the banzai charge comes they will be wielding Arisaka Type 99 Rifles (44” OAL + 20” with type 30 Bayonet). No Bayonet? 
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:15:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Bazooka with three round humpers and spotter/sniper with scope and marking rifle. All who could take over on short notice if I were to get hit.
In Guadalcanal Minecraft. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:17:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've fire both the Thompson and Riesing side by side. I'd be happy with either 45 cal goodness. Well at four pounds lighter you could carry the extra weight in mags with the M50 which would be nice. We’ve still got a reising at the office. Not a bad gun ergonomically it’s my understanding they were pretty well liked. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:18:08 PM EDT
[#42]
For the Pacific, I'd go with the Thompson or M2 carbine, and extra grenades.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:20:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Flamethrower. I'd probably die regardless, but I haven't shot a flamethrower and I want to do so at least once before I die...
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:22:51 PM EDT
[#44]
Another half assed poll with no M3A1
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:23:18 PM EDT
[#45]
A 1928 A1 Thompson.
Just like my grandfather in the Philippines. They said he had good “couy couy”, they meant good meat. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:24:06 PM EDT
[#46]
I’d choose carbine for the same reason as the other thread. Adequate power at the ranges used. Light and handy in thick cover and the weight losses means I can carry more magazines.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:26:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Choosing the Johnson means no bayonet and that means no spirit of the bayonet. So you better be sharpening your E-tool. When the banzai charge comes they will be wielding Arisaka Type 99 Rifles (44" OAL + 20" with type 30 Bayonet). No Bayonet? https://i.imgur.com/VNRptVP.jpeg  I'd take a Johnson (preferably LMG) and a CQB weapon, like a Woodsman's Pal or a trench mace. Along with modern pistol techniques and a 1911 with a boatload of mags. Re: Shots Fired in Anger, it's a good book, and you all should read it. The author had a love affair for the M1 Carbine and actually cut down a mag to 6 rounds to make it flush with the trigger guard. He didn't like it sticking out. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:27:40 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnson light machine gun. Same fire power as a BAR but 7 pounds lighter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69887/Screenshot_20230413_090013_Chrome_jpg-2780676.JPG Looks very futuristic for it's day I think. In Futuristic Minecraft. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:27:48 PM EDT
[#49]
M1 Carbine or Thompson. I voted M1 Carbine.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 3:29:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryThat’s a cute little blade, think I’ll pick my teeth with it. |
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