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Hornady Critical duty.
I mean... Paper watched wad cutter with a hole drilled in the middle and filled with soap so it would kill the zulu krauts deader. |
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My go-to has always been 147HSTs but lately I've been running Underwood 9MM +P+ 115GR. XTREME PENETRATORs.
The issue is that I'm in the national forest and they take the nuisancer bears from the Smokies and release them about a.5 miles from my cabin….so asshole bears can be an issue. These Underwoods seem like a good compromise for 2 and 4 leg threats. Attached File |
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124 Gr. +P Gold Dot carried in a CZ P-10C or P07 (4 inch barrel for both).
They work and work well, and I have never had a failure with them in any pistol. I would feel the same with Federal HST, but I am able to get Gold Dots a lot easier. |
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124 HST in a 365XL with a threaded barrel (4.5") because I'm weird.
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Gold Dot 124 Gr +P in the Shield.
158 gr lead SWCHP in the J frame. (The old FBI load) 85 gr ball in the .380. I have never found an hollowpoint that works out of an LCP. |
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Seems the vast majority of people are packing 124/147gr HST or Gold Dots regardless of barrel length?
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G43X with 147gr HST standard pressure
CM9 with 124gr HST standard pressure P32 with 73gr Geco ball |
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Depends. At work in the work gun--124 grain +P Winchester bonded. Off with the G43X---147 grain Gold Dots. If carrying the PP, 73 grain FMJ. If carrying the S&W 64, which is most common when off, 158 grain +P semi-wadcutter hollowpoints in the weapon and in speed loaders, Winchester 130 grain +P PDX in any speed strips carried. Same load for the 37-2 when carried as a backup.
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180 gr Fed HST, Glock 23
230 gr Fed HST, 1911 99 gr Fed HST, Ruger LCP |
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Gen 5 Glock 19 with dot and Boresight Solutions frame signature series frame.
9mm Speer 124 +P Gold Dot. Attached File |
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Quoted: Seems the vast majority of people are packing 124/147gr HST or Gold Dots regardless of barrel length? View Quote My thinking is I could probably optimize by choosing different loads for the different barrel lengths/guns but all handgun rounds suck so it’s probably only a marginal benefit. The drawbacks are having to buy different kinds of expensive carry ammo and having to work up different loads for training analogous. By sticking with one load I bought a whole case of 147gr HSTs so I can shoot a fair amount of it to ensure functionality in any gun I may want to carry or use for home defense and only have to work up one load for practice. |
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No matter which one... Speer Gold Dots
Ruger .380 - 90gr Taurus .40 - 155gr Springfield 10mm - 200gr |
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HST 147gr
It's the old lot that still works great out of short barrels, when I rotate this out I'll probably drop to 124gr HST |
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Quoted: Seems the vast majority of people are packing 124/147gr HST or Gold Dots regardless of barrel length? View Quote They both used to work exceedingly well down to 3.1" barrels when tested to FBI standards. There's been talk that the newer batches of 147 HST underperforms in 3.1" barrels due to some changes they made. |
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Glock 19 and 48 with 124 gr. Speer Gold Dots.
Glock 42 with 90 gr. Hornady Critical Defense. |
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147 HST or Gold Dot.
G26, G19, Shield. .38 spl +p gold dots in the .357 |
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So who makes relatively inexpensive 147gr FMJ range ammo that roughly matches the velocity of 147gr HST/Gold Dot?
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1911 Govt, 10mm 180gr Golden Saber at 1250fps. In the woods or on the river its a G20, same ammo but i give up about 25fps.
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Vintage Black Talon 147 9mm, because I can and ammo doesn't go bad.
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147 gr HST and 124 gr Gold Dot standard pressure and 230 GR std pressure for 45ACP.
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In my Shield Plus, 147gr+P HST. Not because I believe I need +P, but because I believe the +P will help in cycling.
In my Staccato P, 147gr HST standard pressure. In my G45, 147gr HST standard pressure. In my CHP4006TSW, 180gr HST In my 640-1, the cylinder is loaded with 148gr WCs, reloads are 135gr+P Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel In my 64-6s (when I get them back) 135gr+P Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel In my 4" 15-3 and 67-2 I used Remington 158gr+P LSWCHP In my 4506-1 and Colt1911 I used 230gr+P HST In my 1301s and 870, if I am on the road, Federal Tru Ball Deep Penetrator. In a house i switch over to Federal 1B In my .300Blk I use 110gr VMAX in dwelling, 110gr GMX on the road I my .556 I use Hornady 5.56 75gr TAP T2 in dwelling, 62gr Fusion JSP on the road. |
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Glock 48 and Glock 45 it’s Federal Personal Defense HST 9mm Luger 124 Grain
Ruger LCP Max it’s Precision One. 380 ACP 90gr HP/XTP |
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Hellcat OSP with Holosun 507k, TLR6, Apex trigger w/PRP trigger bar.
Federal HST 124 grain standard pressure. |
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Main carry:
90gr XTP in the LCP 147gr HST +P in the TP9 Elite SC Nightstand: 125gr Underwood Gold Dots in the G31 |
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Sierra 9mm 115 grain in P365 and XD9 compact. Yeah, I know it's cheap ammo, but that hog I shot Monday dropped DRT. Nothing like actual confirmation of performance.
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Quoted: So who makes relatively inexpensive 147gr FMJ range ammo that roughly matches the velocity of 147gr HST/Gold Dot? View Quote Buy any 147 grain load from a major manufacturer and you'll be fine. Only problem I've ever had with 147 grain ammo was from Freedom Munitions. It chronographed around 800 fps (some shots less than 800 fps) from a 4" M&P over a Lab Radar. It wouldn't cycle the slide of my M&P, so I asked the guy in the range stall next to me if I could shoot some over his lab radar. It was pathetic. I bitched to Freedom Munitions, and to their credit they allowed me to return the remaining 900ish rounds from the case and gave me a refund. |
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It’s interesting how many of you use 147 gr 9mm in your carry pistol. I’ve reloaded some for target practice but never for self defense. Not saying it as a negative, I’ve just always carried with 124 grain.
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