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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 8:59:18 AM EST
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Anyone kicking into B5 be advised that the first season has a few character development so so episodes, although not sttng season 1 level bad. it goes into awesome mode after that
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:04:35 AM EST
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Here is a good read on it.

https://medium.com/@RickWebb/the-economics-of-star-trek-29bab88d50
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:17:30 AM EST
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No Captain Pike option?
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:19:32 AM EST
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Thanks for the heads-up.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:23:28 AM EST
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Thanks for the heads-up.
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Anyone kicking into B5 be advised that the first season has a few character development so so episodes, although not sttng season 1 level bad. it goes into awesome mode after that
Thanks for the heads-up.
There are toward the end of season 1 episodes that set up season 2. But he is correct, season 2 is when it really starts getting good and then it just gets better and better until the end.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 10:25:29 AM EST
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I am pretty sure Commodore Pike was the last person in Star Fleet to believe in the free market.

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scuba_steve: Kahn.  He had balls and seemed to genuinely care for his crew.  All of them.
Kirk eschewed his real leadership responsibilities so he could directly participate in activities he should have been leading from the bridge...primarily to support his pursuit of adventure, heroics, and alien poontang.  And he left a trail of dead crewmen in his wake.
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scuba_steve: Kahn.  He had balls and seemed to genuinely care for his crew.  All of them.
Kirk eschewed his real leadership responsibilities so he could directly participate in activities he should have been leading from the bridge...primarily to support his pursuit of adventure, heroics, and alien poontang.  And he left a trail of dead crewmen in his wake.
I was thinking about that after I saw this thread pop up - you're right Kahn actually gave a shit about his crew and humanity.  The wrong side won the Eugenics Wars and drove the planet right into WW3.  It wasn't just a few dozen millions that died either, they covered up the genocide of Asia and Africa.  Think about who you see in the Star Trek shows and how that corresponds with current demographic trends.

Miami_JBT: http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8400000/Quark-star-trek-deep-space-nine-8476340-402-500.jpg
He wasn't a Federation Space Communist, he was all about Capitalism, had hook ups for anything you'd want, whores, guns, dope, liquor, etc....
I wouldn't serve under the Federation in any fucking way.
I chose the warcriminal Maxwell, and you come in here with blackjack and hookers.  The guy who tried to stop a galactic war by shoving a remote control up the butt of a zombiefied enemy leader.

@Miami_JBT

Has anyone ever told you that you're smart?

Dog1: Yep...Sheridan over any of them

Madcat207: Glad to see a few other sane minds around here.  Cheers guys!
Clark did nothing wrong...
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:36:04 AM EST
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I saw a couple of episodes in college because my roommate was a fan, but that's it.  I'm putting it on my list.  I loved DS9, and I always hear comparisons.
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If you like DS9, you'll like B5.  The character developtment, story arcs, and shady folks are what make them both great.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:54:53 AM EST
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Kirk
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 12:20:29 PM EST
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Picard had the best stupid luck.  But Janeway(sp) traveled better, and had Seven as crew.
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I'd like Janeway over me.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 12:33:09 PM EST
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Lorca, cuz he wanted to break shit and fuck people up.

I'd want to go on libbo with Kirk.

I'd frag Sisko.

I'd choke Janeway to death with my dick just to keep from hearing her bleating voice.

Picard can darn my socks.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:16:29 PM EST
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Clark did nothing wrong...
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There was that whole blowing up a capital ship to assassinate the president thing...

And for his final F U at humanity for rejecting his rule, he turned Earth's defense systems on the planet..."Scorced Earth"
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:19:30 PM EST
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There was that whole blowing up a capital ship to assassinate the president thing...

And for his final F U at humanity for rejecting his rule, he turned Earth's defense systems on the planet..."Scorced Earth"
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Clark did nothing wrong...
There was that whole blowing up a capital ship to assassinate the president thing...

And for his final F U at humanity for rejecting his rule, he turned Earth's defense systems on the planet..."Scorced Earth"
And don't forget bombing civilians on Mars, not to mention throwing in with the Shadows.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:24:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:28:16 PM EST
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Dont care as long as I dont get a red shirt...
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:47:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 1:53:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 2:08:49 PM EST
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Dont care as long as I dont get a red shirt...
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Gold became the new Red in TNG, DS9, and Voyager.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 2:43:00 PM EST
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I didn't vote, so I'm just going to leave this here.

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Drawn by a friend of mine.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 2:50:35 PM EST
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I didn't vote, so I'm just going to leave this here.

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Outstanding!
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 3:05:00 PM EST
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Poll fail for no Christopher Pike
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And finally a TRUE TREKIE shows up. Capt Pike def belongs on the list.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 6:56:34 PM EST
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Yeremyahu: Clark did nothing wrong...

Oblivion: There was that whole blowing up a capital ship to assassinate the president thing...
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@Oblivion

Think it through, Clark was being mind controlled, and his drunken scribble sheet was his last way of saving the Earth from a Drakh hissy fit.  I contend Morgan Clark did his best to arm Earth with advance technology, ride out a galactic war as a neutral power, and not interfere with Sheridan's war effort - all while coping with an internal genocidal terrorist organization that could literally read minds and change thoughts.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 7:23:40 PM EST
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@Oblivion

Think it through, Clark was being mind controlled, and his drunken scribble sheet was his last way of saving the Earth from a Drakh hissy fit.  I contend Morgan Clark did his best to arm Earth with advance technology, ride out a galactic war as a neutral power, and not interfere with Sheridan's war effort - all while coping with an internal genocidal terrorist organization that could literally read minds and change thoughts.
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BS Clark was a power hungry fascist who colluded with the genocidal types on earth and galactically.

If he had a keeper, it wouldn't have let him go out like he did.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 7:28:45 PM EST
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I didn't vote, so I'm just going to leave this here.

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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 7:31:23 PM EST
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And finally a TRUE TREKIE shows up. Capt Pike def belongs on the list.
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Poll fail for no Christopher Pike
And finally a TRUE TREKIE shows up. Capt Pike def belongs on the list.
He was in two episodes.  One of which he just sat there and beeped.  Not enough material to really judge him.

But he was pretty good in The Cage.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 8:51:30 PM EST
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TheAvatar9265ft: BS Clark was a power hungry fascist who colluded with the genocidal types on earth and galactically.
If he had a keeper, it wouldn't have let him go out like he did.
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Suicide by ppg, suicide by gkar, suicide does the trick.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:05:45 PM EST
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Speaking of Babylon 5 - I'm watching A Voice in The Wilderness part 1 from season 1.

I just watched the part where Garibaldi had asked the psycop Talia Winters to check on his friend back at Mars were fighting had broke out between the Mars first and the Earth Alliance.

He was sitting at a bar having a glass of water - cuz we know he was an alcoholic- and Londo came up to him to cheer him up with a story about a stripper that Londo ended up marrying.

I was laughing my ass off when Londo told the story and it just showcases the excellent writing and character interaction that was prevalent throughout the entire series.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:08:27 PM EST
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Suicide by ppg, suicide by gkar, suicide does the trick.
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TheAvatar9265ft: BS Clark was a power hungry fascist who colluded with the genocidal types on earth and galactically.
If he had a keeper, it wouldn't have let him go out like he did.
Suicide by ppg, suicide by gkar, suicide does the trick.
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Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:32:59 PM EST
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Just imagine if Sisko had been acted by Patrick Stewart.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:03:41 PM EST
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I just watched the part where Garibaldi had asked the psycop telepath Talia Winters
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Fun fact: their chemistry was real... they were married IRL for a while... then divorced.. and Jerry Doyle (Garibaldi) went on to be come a conservative radio talkshow host
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:33:41 PM EST
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No Captain Pike option?
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Your option for Captain Pike is a single beep.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:44:49 PM EST
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I see Kirk is still ahead, the TNG fanboys just don't have the numbers

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Speaking of Babylon 5 - I'm watching A Voice in The Wilderness part 1 from season 1.

I just watched the part where Garibaldi had asked the psycop Talia Winters to check on his friend back at Mars were fighting had broke out between the Mars first and the Earth Alliance.

He was sitting at a bar having a glass of water - cuz we know he was an alcoholic- and Londo came up to him to cheer him up with a story about a stripper that Londo ended up marrying.

I was laughing my ass off when Londo told the story and it just showcases the excellent writing and character interaction that was prevalent throughout the entire series.
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Londo stole the show
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 11:59:20 PM EST
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Sisko, but by God if you fuck up he will chew your ass out.  I'm shocked he didn't stroke out during some of the scenes

Supercut - Benjamin Sisko Yelling at Everyone
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 12:50:53 AM EST
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Yeah, a Keeper won't let you kill yourself.

Londo wanted too. Badly.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:49:59 AM EST
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Sisco. Handed a shit sandwich with the command of DS9 and made it work.
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Yes, and he deserved a shit sandwich.  Picard should have court marshaled him for the way he behaved toward him in the pilot.  That was very unlike the Picard character to tolerate such insubordination.  I don't give a shit about Picard's guilt on the matter his character was always command before personal.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:51:01 AM EST
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Whichever ship Seven of Nine is on.
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She was so stuffy, I bet she was a dead fuck...
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:56:59 AM EST
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In a world with matter replicators / transporters that are powered by matter-antimatter reactors, what type of economic system makes sense?

Nothing like we know now. The only scarcity is land and life experience, but with holodecks, warp drive and terraforming, even location and life experience seem not to be scarce.

In that economy, what is trade based on? How is there a basis for currency?

In such a hypothetical utopia, it is not hard to imagine "the betterment of ourselves" being among the few worthwhile challenges (to include space exploration) outside of a holo-videogame.
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It will not and can not exist.  Real people are more like the Ferengi(sp?)  then they are the humans in Star Trek.  That is why communism (though a good concept) does not work as it's designed and always fails.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:58:01 AM EST
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She would probably comment on an irregularity in the warp plasma flow she discovered that morning just as you were about to nut.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:58:40 AM EST
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Yes, and he deserved a shit sandwich.  Picard should have court marshaled him for the way he behaved toward him in the pilot.  That was very unlike the Picard character to tolerate such insubordination.  I don't give a shit about Picard's guilt on the matter his character was always command before personal.
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f that. Picards action led to the death of his wife. Tough shit picard if someone didnt kiss your ass after that.

BTW i like picard....
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:59:42 AM EST
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Voyager.  A lot less competition for 7.   =)

Probably the best chance to get laid and to survive would be Picard.  Better weapons...etc.

Most fun?  Kirk.  Kirk kicked ass and got laid all the damned time.   He'd be my best friend!  lol
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It was brutal as a redshirt under Kirk.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 7:59:47 AM EST
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Janeway, cuz if I'm under her, at least there's boobs.
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No thanks.  Binge watch that show and you will see it only took one shot to take out Voyagers shields and warp drive.  Every fucking encounter...

Star fleet must have been like damn it Voyager has some damn big design flaws.  Give it to that feminist bitch, maybe she will get her ass shot off.
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 8:17:48 AM EST
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His name was kpel308.  
He gave his life proudly for the Federation.

Link Posted: 6/19/2018 8:19:36 AM EST
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God damn, he would have been the ultimate CPT.  Grey area decisions, with good acting.....Imagine him giving the monologue for In The Pale Moonlight....
Link Posted: 6/19/2018 12:59:22 PM EST
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The Federation was about as fucked up water on the brain 'tarded as the rest of the socialist states on Earth at the moment.

Emperor Palpatine was Sith and all.... but the man was a technocratic authoritarian. He let folks make money, own weapons, etc.... as long as the people didn't threaten the stability of the Empire and his hokey religion. I'd serve in the Empire.... but never in the Federation.
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Link Posted: 6/20/2018 12:32:34 AM EST
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ziarifleman: Yeah, a Keeper won't let you kill yourself.
Londo wanted too. Badly.
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you can't choke back a blast of plasma, or a grenade
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 1:59:06 AM EST
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ziarifleman: Yeah, a Keeper won't let you kill yourself.
Londo wanted too. Badly.
you can't choke back a blast of plasma, or a grenade
First of all, what's with you and your fucky quote style?

Second, your supposed exception proves it. Part of the Keeper was killed, weakening it's control and allowing him to kill himself.

That's the same thing Londo did with alcohol.
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