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Posted: 11/21/2021 9:36:24 AM EDT
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9x23 Winchester if you want straight wall case with factory ammo for self defense. Same as the comp and without the rim of 38 super and stronger case. Lighter bullets its equal to 357 mag.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 9:39:12 AM EDT
[#2]
L7A1
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Posted: 11/21/2021 9:41:52 AM EDT
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I've been using 9mm +P+ Federal 9BPLE 115. Its a street proven stone dead killer, used by numerous agencies because it works.
 9mm +P+ Federal 9BPLE 115 gr Gel Test |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:13:27 AM EDT
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After a ton of research I settled on Liberty Civil defense +P. It's also a bonus carrying 3 mags all day. However if you have a muzzle brake it will not function.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:15:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Reading the 357 Sig Return Thread has me interested in getting into a hot 9mm round for giggles. I’d be handloading from the start so factory ammo availability and cost are irrelevant, but new or once fired brass being unobtainable would make it a nonstarter. I’d also like to stay with the 9mm sized case head for compatibility with my Dillon 650 reloading bits. So, what should I go with? 38 Super, 38 Super Comp (what’s the difference?), one of the 9x20something offerings, .356 TSC. The last one sounds interesting but had honestly never heard of it until yesterday. I’d like to use this in a 9mm 1911 I have with just a barrel and recoil spring change or a G17.4 with just a barrel/spring change. Also have an extra PF940V2 frame and LPK laying around, so a G34 or 17L populated slide could also be fun and give it all the barrel I can to get max velocity. This would only be for goofing around and maybe gun games, so carryability or hunting aren’t factors. So what would you do? Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:16:04 AM EDT
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Roll your own.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:16:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. Something to consider is that bullets are designed to work in a target velocity window and pushing something meant to work at 1000-1300fps to 2000+ will probably not give the terminal effects you are looking for. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:40:22 AM EDT
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For the 9mm Parabellum, try the Hornady 115 grain XTP together with 6.7 grains of Power Pistol. The cartridge overall length is 1.075".
From a 5 inch barrel you will see close to 1300 fps. This is a maximum load so use this data with discretion. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:41:54 AM EDT
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38 Super Comp is a heavy duty rimless 38 Super. Makes feeding more reliable than the semi rimmed 38 Super.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:56:02 AM EDT
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I like 38 Super it’ll do anything I want in a pistol it’s classy and has tons of potential on the reloading bench there’s also quite a bit of factory ammunition available. Buffalo Bore, Corbon, Double Tap, Federal, PMC, Remington, SigSauer, Underwood, Wilson Combat and Winchester all load factory ammo for it.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:01:56 PM EDT
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Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines.
The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to +p loads of 9mm. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:01:58 PM EDT
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Would magazines be a limiting factor for the Glock with the longer cartridges?
You could try reloading to replicate the military's M1152 115gr FMJ. It's pretty hot and shoots great in my 9mm 1911 and Glocks. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:12:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines. The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to +p loads of 9mm. 38 Super comp is still straight with no taper the rim is the only difference. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:46:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: L7A1 I got 2 cans left. Muh smgs love it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 12:48:42 PM EDT
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Underwood.
That shit is hot and Ive heard/seen really good thing regarding wood channels and penetration. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 1:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been using 9mm +P+ Federal 9BPLE 115. Its a street proven stone dead killer, used by numerous agencies because it works.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9iiaXoRaRYWhile 9bple is fine there are better options now. Op whatever you choose try and find well tested and respected projectiles in them and use them in the velocity ranges they specify. The hornady xtp is known to not like to be pushed too fast. Id look at using 357magnum bullets swaged down or 357sig projectiles. Pushing a standard 9mm jhp that fast will make it perform poorly. I still love 38super and 9x23win a lot and want a 9x23 1911 for a hotrod carry singlestack. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 2:09:57 PM EDT
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Looks like some clarification is in order. Not looking for a hot 9x19 factory ammo or projectile recommendations for self defense, but for advice on an entirely different, bigger/faster, cartridge which still uses .355-.356” projectiles.
I’d like it to use the same 9mm case head, so I can just swap in a barrel and maybe recoil spring on a 9mm 1911 or G17, or at least be able to use the 9mm 1911 or G17 frame with a couple lug and play slide/barrel/recoil spring combo. Sounds like 9x25 Dillon uses the 10mm/.40SW case head, but can it be loaded to an OAL to fit in a G17 magwell? |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 2:17:44 PM EDT
[#18]
9X23 is pretty much the apex, in a 1911, if you're looking to get fancy, and don't want a 10mm or 9 X 25.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 2:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something to consider is that bullets are designed to work in a target velocity window and pushing something meant to work at 1000-1300fps to 2000+ will probably not give the terminal effects you are looking for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. Something to consider is that bullets are designed to work in a target velocity window and pushing something meant to work at 1000-1300fps to 2000+ will probably not give the terminal effects you are looking for. While generally true, I believe he’s referring to Lehigh’s monolithic non-expanding bullets:  These would not have the same velocity window that would otherwise cause a JHP to over-expand and under-penetrate. More velocity just means more “fluid transfer” energy, at least in theory |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 2:27:17 PM EDT
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A 1911 in 9mm is a damn shame.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 2:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like some clarification is in order. Not looking for a hot 9x19 factory ammo or projectile recommendations for self defense, for advice on an entirely different, bigger/faster, cartridge which still uses .355-.356” projectiles. I’d like it to use the same 9mm case head, so I can just swap in a barrel and maybe recoil spring on a 9mm 1911 or G17, or at least be able to use the 9mm 1911 or G17 frame with a couple lug and play slide/barrel/recoil spring combo. Sounds like 9x25 Dillon uses the 10mm/.40SW case head, but can it be loaded to an OAL to fit in a G17 magwell? 9x25 Dillon cannot be loaded short enough to fit in a small-frame pistol. Rounds that will only work in a 1911 are 9x23, 38 Super Comp (more modern version of 38 Super), and 9x25 Dillon (will have reduced capacity and requires different magazines due to 10mm case diameter). Rounds that have the same overall length as the standard 9x19 are 9x21, 356TSW, and 960 Rowland |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 1911 in 9mm is a damn shame. Finally got bit by the 1911 bug in mid-2020 and I wasn’t going to pay stupid prices. Got the 9mm Kimber from a buddy who was consolidating and sold it to me at a normal price. Another friend let me borrow a half a dozen different .45 1911s, and I loved the Springfield TRP Operator, but refuse to pay current asking prices for what will basically be a range toy. When things return to something resembling normal I’ll pick one up. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9x25 Dillon cannot be loaded short enough to fit in a small-frame pistol. Rounds that will only work in a 1911 are 9x23, 38 Super Comp (more modern version of 38 Super), and 9x25 Dillon (will have reduced capacity and requires different magazines due to 10mm case diameter). Rounds that have the same overall length as the standard 9x19 are 9x21, 356TSW, and 960 Rowland Thank you! That helped clarify a bunch. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:06:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9x25 Dillon cannot be loaded short enough to fit in a small-frame pistol. Rounds that will only work in a 1911 are 9x23, 38 Super Comp (more modern version of 38 Super), and 9x25 Dillon (will have reduced capacity and requires different magazines due to 10mm case diameter). Rounds that have the same overall length as the standard 9x19 are 9x21, 356TSW, and 960 Rowland It doesn't fit in Glock magazines, but what if I told you it would run through a Glock replacement frame with metal magazines and a fairly stock Glock top end? |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:09:44 PM EDT
[#25]
I have some of the Underwood 68gr. +P XD's at like 1800fps. Stuff seems pretty nasty.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't fit in Glock magazines, but what if I told you it would run through a Glock replacement frame with metal magazines and a fairly stock Glock top end? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 9x25 Dillon cannot be loaded short enough to fit in a small-frame pistol. Rounds that will only work in a 1911 are 9x23, 38 Super Comp (more modern version of 38 Super), and 9x25 Dillon (will have reduced capacity and requires different magazines due to 10mm case diameter). Rounds that have the same overall length as the standard 9x19 are 9x21, 356TSW, and 960 Rowland It doesn't fit in Glock magazines, but what if I told you it would run through a Glock replacement frame with metal magazines and a fairly stock Glock top end? If you’re referring to the individual who made a FrankenGlock G19 chambered in 45ACP with a P80 frame and Para Ordnance magazines, yes technically that is feasible. But that’s not what the OP’s question was about |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines. The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:20:46 PM EDT
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Hot 9mm?
Get yourself some 90's Hirtenberger L7A1 or some Egyptian 9mm from the 70's. (don't do that) 
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. 9mm major generally is hotter than +P. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines. The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to I’ve not played with it any but is it generally safe in standard guns? It’s more like +p+ isn’t it? |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve not played with it any but is it generally safe in standard guns? It’s more like +p+ isn’t it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines. The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to I’ve not played with it any but is it generally safe in standard guns? It’s more like +p+ isn’t it? It’s more like +P+++: Typical 9mm ammunition is loaded to SAAMI specifications of approximately 32,000 PSI chamber pressure which results in a velocity between 850 and 1200 FPS depending on the weight of the projectile. 9mm Major ammunition is loaded much, much hotter – typical velocity for a 115gr projectile exceeds 1,550 FPS in order to reach a power factor of 165…Typical 9mm loads range from 3 to 4.5 grains of powder while many Major loads exceed 7.5 to 8 grains of powder, resulting in pressures WELL above the SAAMI limit for 9mm. Most handguns caution against the use of “+P” and “+P+” ammunition – 9mm Major loads can generate pressures above +P+ making them unsafe for most off the shelf pistols. https://fenixammo.com/blogs/news/what-the-john-wick-is-9mm-major-anyway You can generally get away with firing some 9mm Major in a pistol that you know damn well is rated for +P+ loads, but be aware if something does explode and the manufacturer finds out you were shooting Major ammo you can kiss any warranty claim goodbye. Most mid- to upper-tier 1911 barrels chambered in 9mm are safe to shoot Major with, but be sure the chamber fully supports the case. And still it’s recommended that you shoot it sparingly unless it’s a dedicated comped Open gun. The other issue is most 9mm Major ammo is “loaded long” for better feeding in a 1911/2011, and a lot of it won’t chamber fully in a standard 9mm chamber |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s more like +P+++: https://fenixammo.com/blogs/news/what-the-john-wick-is-9mm-major-anyway You can generally get away with firing some 9mm Major in a pistol that you know damn well is rated for +P+ loads, but be aware if something does explode and the manufacturer finds out you were shooting Major ammo you can kiss any warranty claim goodbye. Most mid- to upper-tier 1911 barrels chambered in 9mm are safe to shoot Major with, but be sure the chamber fully supports the case. And still it’s recommended that you shoot it sparingly unless it’s a dedicated comped Open gun. The other issue is most 9mm Major ammo is “loaded long” for better feeding in a 1911/2011, and a lot of it won’t chamber fully in a standard 9mm chamber Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Super Comp is better than standard .38 super, the case doesn't have a rim and is tapered and feeds better from magazines. The rim is barely there, and modern .38 Super should headspace off the case mouth, but the slight rim can still be wonky from the mags. Most people using either cartridge are shooting open guns in USPSA and a lot of people have switched to I’ve not played with it any but is it generally safe in standard guns? It’s more like +p+ isn’t it? It’s more like +P+++: Typical 9mm ammunition is loaded to SAAMI specifications of approximately 32,000 PSI chamber pressure which results in a velocity between 850 and 1200 FPS depending on the weight of the projectile. 9mm Major ammunition is loaded much, much hotter – typical velocity for a 115gr projectile exceeds 1,550 FPS in order to reach a power factor of 165…Typical 9mm loads range from 3 to 4.5 grains of powder while many Major loads exceed 7.5 to 8 grains of powder, resulting in pressures WELL above the SAAMI limit for 9mm. Most handguns caution against the use of “+P” and “+P+” ammunition – 9mm Major loads can generate pressures above +P+ making them unsafe for most off the shelf pistols. https://fenixammo.com/blogs/news/what-the-john-wick-is-9mm-major-anyway You can generally get away with firing some 9mm Major in a pistol that you know damn well is rated for +P+ loads, but be aware if something does explode and the manufacturer finds out you were shooting Major ammo you can kiss any warranty claim goodbye. Most mid- to upper-tier 1911 barrels chambered in 9mm are safe to shoot Major with, but be sure the chamber fully supports the case. And still it’s recommended that you shoot it sparingly unless it’s a dedicated comped Open gun. The other issue is most 9mm Major ammo is “loaded long” for better feeding in a 1911/2011, and a lot of it won’t chamber fully in a standard 9mm chamber Thanks for the info I think I’ll stick with super haha. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:39:33 PM EDT
[#32]
This thread is relevant unto mine interests.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:45:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Edited the title to reflect the desire for input on cartridges using .355” projectiles vice just hot 9x19 ammo.
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9x23 Winchester if you want straight wall case with factory ammo for self defense. Same as the comp and without the rim of 38 super and stronger case. Lighter bullets its equal to 357 mag. 9x23 Dillon is necked down 10mm That'd probably be my choice. I've never reloaded bottlenecked pistol cartridges but I can't imagine it's any fun and haven't heard much to recommend it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 3:52:18 PM EDT
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I've been using the Underwood 124 grain as carry ammo in my LW Commander. Good stuff.
Underwood .38 Super 124 gr. bonded ammo The 115 gr. Buffalo Bore is no slouch either. Buffalo Bore 115 gr. 1450 FPS |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you’re referring to the individual who made a FrankenGlock G19 chambered in 45ACP with a P80 frame and Para Ordnance magazines, yes technically that is feasible. But that’s not what the OP’s question was about There are now several interesting combinations floating around, including 10mm's and a 38 Super. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the 9mm Parabellum, try the Hornady 115 grain XTP together with 6.7 grains of Power Pistol. The cartridge overall length is 1.075". From a 5 inch barrel you will see close to 1300 fps. This is a maximum load so use this data with discretion. Also be sure to wear sunglasses, as the muzzle flash will be bright! 
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:43:33 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are now several interesting combinations floating around, including 10mm's and a 38 Super. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you’re referring to the individual who made a FrankenGlock G19 chambered in 45ACP with a P80 frame and Para Ordnance magazines, yes technically that is feasible. But that’s not what the OP’s question was about There are now several interesting combinations floating around, including 10mm's and a 38 Super. Still not what OP’s question was about |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:46:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still not what OP’s question was about Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you’re referring to the individual who made a FrankenGlock G19 chambered in 45ACP with a P80 frame and Para Ordnance magazines, yes technically that is feasible. But that’s not what the OP’s question was about There are now several interesting combinations floating around, including 10mm's and a 38 Super. Still not what OP’s question was about Correct. Looking for sorta kinda turn key cartridge change in the way of slide, barrel, recoil spring, and/or mags….but not a total Frankenbuild. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 10:48:21 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reading the 357 Sig Return Thread has me interested in getting into a hot 9mm round for giggles. I’d be handloading from the start so factory ammo availability and cost are irrelevant, but new or once fired brass being unobtainable would make it a nonstarter. I’d also like to stay with the 9mm sized case head for compatibility with my Dillon 650 reloading bits. So, what should I go with? 38 Super, 38 Super Comp (what’s the difference?), one of the 9x20something offerings, .356 TSC. The last one sounds interesting but had honestly never heard of it until yesterday. I’d like to use this in a 9mm 1911 I have with just a barrel and recoil spring change or a G17.4 with just a barrel/spring change. Also have an extra PF940V2 frame and LPK laying around, so a G34 or 17L populated slide could also be fun and give it all the barrel I can to get max velocity. This would only be for goofing around and maybe gun games, so carryability or hunting aren’t factors. So what would you do? Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. Are those screwdriver bullets safe to shoot out of a stock Glock barrel? |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have some of the Underwood 68gr. +P XD's at like 1800fps. Stuff seems pretty nasty. Reminds me of the Aguila IQ ammo from back in the day. |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 11:58:58 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are those screwdriver bullets safe to shoot out of a stock Glock barrel? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Reading the 357 Sig Return Thread has me interested in getting into a hot 9mm round for giggles. I’d be handloading from the start so factory ammo availability and cost are irrelevant, but new or once fired brass being unobtainable would make it a nonstarter. I’d also like to stay with the 9mm sized case head for compatibility with my Dillon 650 reloading bits. So, what should I go with? 38 Super, 38 Super Comp (what’s the difference?), one of the 9x20something offerings, .356 TSC. The last one sounds interesting but had honestly never heard of it until yesterday. I’d like to use this in a 9mm 1911 I have with just a barrel and recoil spring change or a G17.4 with just a barrel/spring change. Also have an extra PF940V2 frame and LPK laying around, so a G34 or 17L populated slide could also be fun and give it all the barrel I can to get max velocity. This would only be for goofing around and maybe gun games, so carryability or hunting aren’t factors. So what would you do? Honestly? Stick with the easiest solution and look at some of Lehigh’s bullets for some that meets your needs. Super fast and light or wayyyy over penetrating and they don’t get plugged up with glass or clothing. Are those screwdriver bullets safe to shoot out of a stock Glock barrel? Yes |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 12:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Looking for sorta kinda turn key cartridge change in the way of slide, barrel, recoil spring, and/or mags….but not a total Frankenbuild. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you’re referring to the individual who made a FrankenGlock G19 chambered in 45ACP with a P80 frame and Para Ordnance magazines, yes technically that is feasible. But that’s not what the OP’s question was about There are now several interesting combinations floating around, including 10mm's and a 38 Super. Still not what OP’s question was about Correct. Looking for sorta kinda turn key cartridge change in the way of slide, barrel, recoil spring, and/or mags….but not a total Frankenbuild. Why not give 9mm Major a shot? Maybe get a ported barrel or compensator to make the most of it. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 1:27:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Looking for sorta kinda turn key cartridge change in the way of slide, barrel, recoil spring, and/or mags….but not a total Frankenbuild. If you are going to limit yourself to the maximum length of the Glock magazine, there really is no reason to anything but the standard 9x19 case. Use a brass with a specific headstamp for load segregation, find a load intended for that OAL and bang away. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 1:50:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are going to limit yourself to the maximum length of the Glock magazine, there really is no reason to anything but the standard 9x19 case. Use a brass with a specific headstamp for load segregation, find a load intended for that OAL and bang away. 356 TSW is pretty cool but good luck finding ammunition. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 2:01:13 AM EDT
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OP, it is the .356 TSW, not the TSC.
The .356 TSW is a much better option, frankly. It is a cartridge with the overall length of 9x19mm, but since it is a longer case. It can replicate the 124gr .357 Magnum from a 9mm framed Automatic. No difference in capacity. A G17 holds 17rd of .356 TSW. So all the benefit and none of the negative like the .357 Sig.    
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Posted: 11/22/2021 2:06:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 356 TSW is pretty cool but good luck finding ammunition. https://shopcorbon.com/Handgun-Calibers/356TSW https://www.underwoodammo.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=.356+tsw |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 3:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, it is the .356 TSW, not the TSC. The .356 TSW is a much better option, frankly. It is a cartridge with the overall length of 9x19mm, but since it is a longer case. It can replicate the 124gr .357 Magnum from a 9mm framed Automatic. No difference in capacity. A G17 holds 17rd of .356 TSW. So all the benefit and none of the negative like the .357 Sig. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/117941BB-30BD-405F-B0FF-77F92AA3999F_jpe-1643089.JPG https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-5.jpg https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-4.jpg https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-2.jpg How do the pressures compare? I'm wondering if it could work in something like the Hi Power if a barrel were made for it. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 4:06:46 AM EDT
[#49]
There is 356TSW round
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Posted: 11/22/2021 9:52:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, it is the .356 TSW, not the TSC. The .356 TSW is a much better option, frankly. It is a cartridge with the overall length of 9x19mm, but since it is a longer case. It can replicate the 124gr .357 Magnum from a 9mm framed Automatic. No difference in capacity. A G17 holds 17rd of .356 TSW. So all the benefit and none of the negative like the .357 Sig. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/321106/117941BB-30BD-405F-B0FF-77F92AA3999F_jpe-1643089.JPG https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-5.jpg https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-4.jpg https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/G1220-Handguns-2.jpg Very nice. Where did you get the barrels? Spring change? Weight? I reload so I can get around the lack or scarcity of factory ammo. Like OP it would be nothing more than a range toy. I have a spare G17 floating around here somewhere.
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