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Posted: 9/1/2020 5:25:55 AM EST
After watching what happened in Kenosha who else is thinking of going to a light basic rifle? Or do you think you could engage targets just as quickly with your eleven pound AR with all the doodads?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:27:37 AM EST
[#1]
Small Light
Sling
Small Optic

Anything else is bling.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:27:51 AM EST
[#2]
I like my rifles like my women: short, lightweight, and no bullshit hanging off it. Also black.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:28:00 AM EST
[#3]
More importantly do you think 11 lbs is too much for you to handle OP?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:29:03 AM EST
[#4]
What "doodads" are you talking about?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:29:22 AM EST
[#5]
D-60 all the things.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:29:37 AM EST
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For a rifle to defend against a mob, this.  There are other situations where other items may be wanted.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:29:51 AM EST
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Funny, I never hear this kind of critique from hikers looking to drop weight from a pack.

I'm all for being in shape. But extra weight will increase fatigue and hinder maneuverability regardless of your fitness level.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:31:51 AM EST
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Could you move a heavy rifle as quickly and and accurately as a 6 lb rifle?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:32:23 AM EST
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Well I’m taking my fleshlight off of mine for one. Got no time for that in a mob fight.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:33:55 AM EST
[#10]
AR pistol or SBR is the only way after watching that.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:34:34 AM EST
[#11]
Most people probably need to learn how to effectively use their rifle.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:35:32 AM EST
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I have the Trumpinator I put together back in 2016. It’s a 10.5 pistol that’s going to be my go to.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:36:40 AM EST
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Everything has its place and I think it’s smart to gear your equipment to the mission.

Do you really have a need for a LPVO and a LAM knowingly going into a riot in an urban area where the need for long range shots and NODs are going to be essentially non-existent (and most likely less defensible)?  I’d even argue that wearing electronic ear-pro and foregoing the suppressor might not be a bad idea either (most crowd members tend to scatter when gunfire happens, might as well make it as audible and deafening as possible).

I have different rifle for different jobs.  I have light, slicked down ones for certain things and more well rounded ones for others.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:37:12 AM EST
[#14]
Got plenty of different set ups. Different configs for different threat levels and uses.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:37:22 AM EST
[#15]
Aimpoint pro, BCM stubby grip, that is all I have so far.  Do want to add a flashlight.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:39:16 AM EST
[#16]
front load light, small laser, red dot, sling.

If you want a prism, LPVO or a mid range magnified optic have it zeroed and keep it stowed.

Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:42:50 AM EST
[#17]
I’ll keep my suppressed 10.5 with protac, D60 start and MRO thanks.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:44:07 AM EST
[#18]
This thread needs more:

Bayonets!!! Gettysburg (1993)


Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:44:46 AM EST
[#19]
Also if in highly democrat areas I wouldn't wear anything political or gun related on shirts or other clothing. All that does is paint a target on you. Blend in.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:47:55 AM EST
[#20]
2 is 1. 1 is none. Carry multiples. NY reloads.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:50:14 AM EST
[#21]
acog,offset dot, light, peq15

lets do it live
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:51:18 AM EST
[#22]
no-can, 16, brake
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:53:33 AM EST
[#23]
All of my go to ARs have a light, sling, and red dot.

I’m carrying a 10.5” .300BO in the vehicle right now. With lancer 20s and a Holosun it’s a lightweight, affordable, effective package.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:53:59 AM EST
[#24]
I am changing over from a 16" with a 1-6 LVPO and light on it, to a 12.5 with an EOTech or similar on it.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:56:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:56:44 AM EST
[#26]
Honestly no. My go-to is an LMT MLOK Carbine with an Elcan 1-4, Modlite, DBAL, sling, and BUIS.

I want my gun to be as flexible as possible. I didn't see anything in that video that makes me think he'd have been killed if he had a LAM hanging off of his gun.

That said, I do have a Colt 6920 that's gonna get a SIG Romeo 4T, Modlite, and sling.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:57:37 AM EST
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Until the sun goes down, or your targets are hiding behind stuff in an environment where you need to discriminate.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:58:39 AM EST
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My SBR is tricked out and heavy.

I can rip a Bill Drill in 1.6-1.7 seconds consistently.

Heavy isn't the problem. Practice is. Get out there guys.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:59:16 AM EST
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About 5 years ago.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 5:59:36 AM EST
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Mine have been K.I.S.S. for a while.

My HD gun is a plain old M4gery with a light and an “improvised minimalist sling”.  Detachable carry handle and no red dot.  I’m considering slapping an old Aimpoint M2 on it, but unlike Kyle’s rifle, BUIS is a necessity, and I’d use a cut down carry handle on this one.

My garage gun is a plain XM177 with the improvised sling.

Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:01:46 AM EST
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Or tan
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:03:13 AM EST
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So combat ineffective 50% of the time. Cool
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:05:58 AM EST
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Bullpup master race, reporting for duty.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:07:02 AM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjPdIwCD5_g

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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:08:16 AM EST
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why would you say that?

where does that 50% number come from?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:10:57 AM EST
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why would you say that?

where does that 50% number come from?
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Night and day.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:11:21 AM EST
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BCM ELW 14.5, ACOG TA33 w/ RMR, Scoutlight Pro 640V, OTAL and 2 pt sling.  Key is to start light weight.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:11:26 AM EST
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Tell that to the us soldiers fighting overseas!
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:13:16 AM EST
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Tell that to the us soldiers fighting overseas!
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Tell that to the us soldiers fighting overseas!

reeeeeeeeeeeeee
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:15:29 AM EST
[#40]
Mission determines gear. I am not in an urban place and am much more likely to need to pop a coyote in my pasture than do the Kenosha Hat Trick. LPVO stays.....but 10.5" rules....
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:18:00 AM EST
[#41]
Speaking of light, I'm actually eyeballing my M1 Carbines again. I have two: a 1943 Underwood and a 1944 Rock Ola. Like 99% of M1 Carbines they are post-War rebuilds and I replaced the recoil springs with Wolffs. I have plenty of USGI and Korean 15 rounders along with some Korean 30s.

Both of them are reliable with not just ball but with Remington 110 grain JSP. I have a couple thousand rounds of ball and a few hundred JSPs.

The Underwood wears an Ultimak handguard with a Bushnell TRS-25 on it. I'm going to replace that with a Primary Arms micro RDS with a much longer battery life, and will also add a Rogers Rail Light.

Oh yeah, I also have a bayonet on the way along with 10 more Korean 15 round mags.

If I need something more discreet I have a CZ Scorpion Micro with a RDS and a light, that fits nicely in a laptop backpack along with several magazines loaded with 124 grain Gold Dots, basic cleaning kit, and an IFAK.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:19:42 AM EST
[#42]
Find a pallet of bricks. Site in on said pallet from concealment. Figure out the rest.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:19:48 AM EST
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Will likely stick to my 1886 Winchester. In a crowd, how many commies will a black powder 45-90 punch through with 405gr hard casts?
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:22:28 AM EST
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first post.
I've had them all.
but this is what we have all gone too at this house.

I do have QD mounts with 1x-4.5 or 1x-6x scopes to swap out if necessary.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:22:49 AM EST
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My travel AR is a 7" pistol with a Law folder in 300blk with a RMR, TLR-1HL, sling, and SBA3. Fits in a small backpack with my suppressor.

Travels
Bugout
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:26:21 AM EST
[#47]
BCM ELW 14.5, T2, Surefire m600 scout, magpul ms1.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:27:52 AM EST
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Nice setup.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:30:18 AM EST
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What that kid did, his situation, and his rifle has zero effect on what I choose in a rifle.

My experience out weighs his wild night in a riot.

Nothing wrong with a kiss setup but I want more out of a rifle in most cases.
Link Posted: 9/1/2020 6:33:07 AM EST
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So firing in a general direction while screaming like a little girl is not a tactic?

I gotta get some training!

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