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Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:24:30 PM EDT
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Knew a dude 30+ years ago that creeped me TF out. Dude had stacks and stacks of hardcore porn magazines. He used to sit for hours with scissors and glue cutting them up and making these bizarre collages on poster board. The whole time mumbling under his breath to himself.

Fucken walls of his apartment were covered with these things.

Grade-A fucken weirdo.
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And you were hanging with him ….Why?
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:24:32 PM EDT
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I posted on this cat before- Rob Thiret

When I was in elementary school I had a classmate that I hung around with, I wouldn't really have said we were friends but were acquaintances. We got along ok just never were pals.
By junior high I started to distance him a bit, he would get in trouble for stupid stuff like taking a shit on the bathroom floor, hiding in the girls bathroom and scaring them, lifting their skirts and so on. I remember he got in trouble for taping pictures out of Playboy magazines onto girls bicycles.
Weird dude.
I went to a different high school than him so I lost track of him, strangely after high school I dated his cousin and she never spoke of him really, she thought he was weird too.

A country club groundskeeper wanted in the kidnapping of a 3-year-old girl has surrendered to the police, the authorities say.

Robert Paul Thiret, 21 years old, of Denver turned himself in here Wednesday after he was charged with second- degree kidnapping and attempted first- degree murder in the abduction of Lori Poland in Denver.

Mr. Thiret was being held in $250,000 bond. The complaint said Lori identified a picture of Mr. Thiret as the ''bad guy'' who abducted her on Aug. 22.

She was found three days after her abduction in an isolated outhouse after a couple heard her cries for help.

On Aug. 22, 1983, 3-year-old Poland was playing in the front yard of her home with her brother while their father painted their house. When the father went inside to grab popsicles for the children, a car pulled up with the passenger door open. The driver asked Poland if she liked candy.

Poland excitedly said yes and got in the car. The man drove to the mountains outside the city, sexually abused the child and put her 15 feet below the ground in an outhouse pit.


She stayed there for three and a half days until bird watchers heard her crying and located her in the outhouse.

In the weeks afterward, Poland was taken to the Kempe Center, where Krugman was the director. She had already identified her abductor — Robert Paul Thiret, who ended up spending six years in prison and had been abused when he was 3 years old — and was working on healing. Krugman was one of her pediatricians during this time.

Skip ahead a few years, and Krugman and Poland reconnected when she was working on a paper for a high school class. Poland went on to complete three internships and post graduate certificate clinical work at the Kempe Center, where Krugman had worked before taking a job as the dean of the medical school at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. The two became close and decide to launch a national effort to address child abuse and neglect.

The result of that — the National Foundation to End Child Abuse and Neglect (EndCAN) — officially launched on June 18, with Gov. John Hickenlooper as a speaker.

“Colorado is proud to introduce EndCAN as it takes a fresh approach to addressing one of society’s toughest challenges,” Hickenlooper said. “It’s clear the impact of child abuse and neglect goes far beyond one individual or family but to an entire community. It is not just a social and legal issue, but a major health, mental health and public health problem. The approach that EndCAN will bring to this issue is sure to make a difference.”


Kidnapped a 3 year old, sexually assaulted her and left her to die in a pit toilet in a mountain park.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:25:42 PM EDT
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If the shoe fits, I must wear it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:29:19 PM EDT
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A hanger-on, sort of friend-of-a-friend that used to drink and play cards with some folks I knew wasn’t right in the head. He stunk all the time and was generally unstable.  I heard he ran off to be a cartel hitman in Mexico. Fidgeted a lot, dead eyes that never seemed focused on anything.  Also liked to burn himself with cigarettes.  Really creepy dude.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:30:34 PM EDT
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I played on a sportsball team that had a few foreigners. This one guy in particular just had something off about him (besides being a foreigner). He was from some Eastern block ex-Soviet country, maybe Slovakia. His eyes were just totally dead and I can't explain it, but something in me knew he was way off. He reminded me of the psychopath in Fargo way, way too much.

Last I heard he got deported for some petty crime (back when people got deported). I wish I could remember his name.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:31:51 PM EDT
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I listened to recordings of her in that podcast they did.  Creepy.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:33:10 PM EDT
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Working in the ER one night and 6 cops show up, Hustling in a person, They are all standing around shotguns in hand and I realize its a serial killer Im working on. Not many things freak me, but be his complete vibe was freaky creepy.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:48:23 PM EDT
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I worked with a guy who I think is probably a clinical psychopath.  He is a habitual liar, has a massive sense of entitlement, reckless driving habits, no fear of consequences, engages regularly in criminal behavior, has no capacity for empathy, and liked setting wild animals (geese) on fire.  He was very glib, and very child-like.  This was apparent upon first meeting him.

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I’ve worked with a few. The definition of psychopathy is really just a total lack of empathy for others.  Because of that they can be very successful and are often things such as ceo’s, surgeons, etc.  In an operating room they can yell at everyone inappropriately and then go straight to joking around and they can’t figure out why people aren’t playing along with the fun.  Highly functioning ones know right from wrong and don’t necessarily act on the wrong (especially when they know they have a lot to loose like their big salary).  Lesser functioning ones act on their wrong ideas it because it’s easy when you have no empathy for others.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:51:20 PM EDT
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A few come to mind.

A BMW GS rider with Texas plates just outside of Jackson, WY.

Sought out LE for two of them.  One was arrested.
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It's actually a GSA.
Was good to meet you though!
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:55:30 PM EDT
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David Camm

You'll have to Google him if you're interested.

He did it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 2:00:08 PM EDT
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https://www.mcall.com/2014/11/26/stepfather-charged-in-jessica-padgetts-murder/

That guy. The "sexual element" of the case involved him recording himself desecrating her corpse.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 2:01:46 PM EDT
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I’ve worked with a few. The definition of psychopathy is really just a total lack of empathy for others.  Because of that they can be very successful and are often things such as ceo’s, cardiac surgeons, etc.  In an operating room they can yell at everyone inappropriately and then go straight to joking around and they can’t figure out why people aren’t playing along with the fun.  Highly functioning ones know right from wrong and don’t necessarily act on the wrong (especially when they know they have a lot to loose like their big salary).  Lesser functioning ones act on their wrong ideas it because it’s easy when you have empathy for others.
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I worked with a guy who I think is probably a clinical psychopath.  He is a habitual liar, has a massive sense of entitlement, reckless driving habits, no fear of consequences, engages regularly in criminal behavior, has no capacity for empathy, and liked setting wild animals (geese) on fire.  He was very glib, and very child-like.  This was apparent upon first meeting him.



I’ve worked with a few. The definition of psychopathy is really just a total lack of empathy for others.  Because of that they can be very successful and are often things such as ceo’s, cardiac surgeons, etc.  In an operating room they can yell at everyone inappropriately and then go straight to joking around and they can’t figure out why people aren’t playing along with the fun.  Highly functioning ones know right from wrong and don’t necessarily act on the wrong (especially when they know they have a lot to loose like their big salary).  Lesser functioning ones act on their wrong ideas it because it’s easy when you have empathy for others.


There is a lot of disagreement on what constitutes pyschopathy, sociopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder.  Some professionals use all 3 of those interchangeably, some use 2 interchangeably, some insist they are all 3 different things.

The individual I referenced wasn't very smart.  He was able to function in life because his dad owned the company we worked for.  I disliked him personally, which is obviously coloring my non-professional assessment of him.  No one really liked him.

I think there's a ton of selection-bias with diagnosing psychopathy.  Mental health professionals naturally come into contact with highly-disagreable male psychopaths, and not so much female or Anthony Fauci types.  Females are able to skate much more easily by exploiting societal biases, and Fauci types are smart enough to avoid being caught.  It naturally gives the impression that psychopaths are overwhelmingly male with poor impulse control.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 2:44:04 PM EDT
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There is a lot of disagreement on what constitutes pyschopathy, sociopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder.  Some professionals use all 3 of those interchangeably, some use 2 interchangeably, some insist they are all 3 different things.

The individual I referenced wasn't very smart.  He was able to function in life because his dad owned the company we worked for.  I disliked him personally, which is obviously coloring my non-professional assessment of him.  No one really liked him.

I think there's a ton of selection-bias with diagnosing psychopathy.  Mental health professionals naturally come into contact with highly-disagreable male psychopaths, and not so much female or Anthony Fauci types.  Females are able to skate much more easily by exploiting societal biases, and Fauci types are smart enough to avoid being caught.  It naturally gives the impression that psychopaths are overwhelmingly male with poor impulse control.
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I worked with a guy who I think is probably a clinical psychopath.  He is a habitual liar, has a massive sense of entitlement, reckless driving habits, no fear of consequences, engages regularly in criminal behavior, has no capacity for empathy, and liked setting wild animals (geese) on fire.  He was very glib, and very child-like.  This was apparent upon first meeting him.



I’ve worked with a few. The definition of psychopathy is really just a total lack of empathy for others.  Because of that they can be very successful and are often things such as ceo’s, cardiac surgeons, etc.  In an operating room they can yell at everyone inappropriately and then go straight to joking around and they can’t figure out why people aren’t playing along with the fun.  Highly functioning ones know right from wrong and don’t necessarily act on the wrong (especially when they know they have a lot to loose like their big salary).  Lesser functioning ones act on their wrong ideas it because it’s easy when you have empathy for others.


There is a lot of disagreement on what constitutes pyschopathy, sociopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder.  Some professionals use all 3 of those interchangeably, some use 2 interchangeably, some insist they are all 3 different things.

The individual I referenced wasn't very smart.  He was able to function in life because his dad owned the company we worked for.  I disliked him personally, which is obviously coloring my non-professional assessment of him.  No one really liked him.

I think there's a ton of selection-bias with diagnosing psychopathy.  Mental health professionals naturally come into contact with highly-disagreable male psychopaths, and not so much female or Anthony Fauci types.  Females are able to skate much more easily by exploiting societal biases, and Fauci types are smart enough to avoid being caught.  It naturally gives the impression that psychopaths are overwhelmingly male with poor impulse control.

It's not impulsive. It's acting out on a long devised crime of opportunity. Most psychpaths are calculating and thorough. But, they make mistakes like anyone else. Which is no surprise, because although they are neurotic about details, they are also aloof and believe they are more clever than the people surrounding them.

If they tell you it's just an impulse, they are lying. They've possibly been planning their crimes well in advance.

Realistically, we all have our closeted demons. The trick is to not let them win.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Jerry Moonbeam Brown, Chomo 100%
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He greeted us on our return from a 7 month deployment. I was trying to get off the ship to fuck my wife bow-legged.... he spent an hour and a half rambling about his fucking political career and other son. I've hated that cocksucker for a while.
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I've shook the hand of Joe Biden. Pretty sure I win the thread. Yes it was as disgusting as you can imagine, like a cold wet snake squirming up your hand with no spine.

Fuck Joe Biden.



He'd probably shit himself and used the hand to wipe.

He greeted us on our return from a 7 month deployment. I was trying to get off the ship to fuck my wife bow-legged.... he spent an hour and a half rambling about his fucking political career and other son. I've hated that cocksucker for a while.

But Lindsey Graham said he was a good man?
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 2:58:16 PM EDT
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A kid I went to high school with always seemed really strange.
He went on to become a teacher, then was convicted of child molestation and went to prison for umpty years.
He got out a few years ago, but had cancer and is no longer on this side of the soil.
But he was always creepy.
Women I went to high school with have said without exception he made their skin crawl.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 3:02:28 PM EDT
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When I was in lockup there was this creepy mother fucker nicknamed sewer rat. He scurried around with quick fidgety motions and he had this pedo mustache that made his face look like a sewer rat too.  He was in for molesting kids or some shit like that.   Dude was the creepiest guy I ever did see.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 3:05:27 PM EDT
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Had this goofy fucker back when I was on AD that would start ever sentence with, "Mmm, yeah..." or "Mmm, OK..."

Link Posted: 4/3/2024 3:33:11 PM EDT
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PERSEC prohibits me from posting any specific information.  I'll just say that I have never had a phone number listed in my true name because of a dangerous mentally ill person who I knew in high school.  I occasionally attempt to ascertain that person's whereabouts but have been unable to.

I graduated from high school in 1975.
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There is a mentally ill meth head who constantly spams our Sheriff's facebook page with these long ass wordsalad/gibberish rants and keeps mentioning the name of this person who he thinks owes him millions of dollars and can control the weather or something. He's been writing the same shit since at least 2022 probably before. His target probably has to unlist their number too
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 3:34:19 PM EDT
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Jack Kevorkian.

My dad was a doctor who graduated from the U of M, and returned years later to change from pathology to dermatology. While he was studying he also taught pathology.

One day I was with him and he had to stop by the lab for something and America's favorite serial killer was there.

I had a U of M sweater on with the school logo that was a raised texture. He walked up to me (small child) and ran his fingers across it and tried to make smalltalk with me while my dad was in another room.

Every last bit of me wanted away from that guy. I didn't even know who he was until he became infamous years later and my parents told me it was him. Dad told us about that guy's fascination with death and the process of dying and how he'd get excited when someone was about to expire and he could study them as they went.

To a seven year old he was creepy and I wanted to be anywhere but within arm's reach of him.
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Our adopted 15 year old daughter.  Reviewing camera footage from inside the house is downright disturbing at times.  The complete lack of emotions she has. The staring and studying she's constantly doing to us when we're not paying attention.

Hearing her tell us, while using her baby voice, that she is willing to get us arrested in order to scare us into letting her have social media and get rid of our rules.  

Hearing how excited she gets over horror movies or other violent things.

Hearing the Psychologist tell us he's diagnosing her with 6 things, including borderline personality disorder, oppositional defiant disorder, and severe major depressive disorder.  Hearing that she can't understand empathy and will likely get diagnosed with Sociopathy at 18.

Listening to her so easily lie to my own mother about things in an effort to triangulate and manipulate knowing she's doing it in front of cameras, yet still doing it.  

Hearing her take it to sexual leaning allegations towards me (accused me of being a creep and trying to check her out), and the most disturbing part was later when she was justifying it, saying she knew she was lying but was just mad at me.

I fucking hate my life.
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How/why did you come to adopt her? That's terrifying. How do you sleep?
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 4:31:17 PM EDT
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Did you ever see just somebody at a glance out in public that you remembered years later??  Only happened once to me;
I saw this white anonymous dude probably about 35-40 y.o. and maybe 6'2" simply talking to somebody. The guy held his head down at an angle, and talked to his buddy quietly out of the side of his mouth. The whole time he had a "wiseguy" kind of smirk on his face and that Robert Deniro "Good Fellas" way about him. Ghetto trash with pants down their ass doesn't scare me. (they just disgust me) This guy  whoever he was creeped me the hell out and is who and why I'd prefer to avoid prison.
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Small child at Walmart. He was probably around 5 or 6 years old being pushed in a shopping cart by an old trailer park looking hag. This boy smiled at me from the cart as they passed and his baby teeth were literally rotted black. His face was almost a spitting imagine of Sloth from The Goonies except with a full head of hair. Looking back I'm pretty sure he had fetal alcohol syndrome.

What he said as he smiled though was chilling.  He said "I'll fuck your ass" with a black toothed grin. The mom or grandma didn't even acknowledge what he said she just kept on pushing the cart. I was shocked. Didn't know what to do or say. Definitely an evil messed up child though.
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WTH????
Winner
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 5:28:45 PM EDT
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Dude named John Proctor.
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Was he an Army Captain?

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sounds fishy, relying on the UK to 'share' intel in good faith without it being a plot to elicit a certain action that they want from the US, by cherry picking or fabricating. I have long suspected that if someone could actually get to the bottom of the money laundering going on in ukraine, there would be british intel facilitating the blackmail of US officials to get more involvement/funding out of us
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Eisenhower mentioned in the lead up to the North Africa campaign the problem of the US not having good intel on the ground and having to rely on Brit intel.  He noted that Americans found the spy business generally distasteful.  It's just not part of our culture to engage in snooping and lying.  Or wasn't then, anyway.

Probably several reasons for that.

Most intel guys I've met have been at least a little bit off.  Better ones are just weird kids.  Worse ones are that kind of creature that looks at everyone as lesser animals and at best holds everyone else in contempt.


sounds fishy, relying on the UK to 'share' intel in good faith without it being a plot to elicit a certain action that they want from the US, by cherry picking or fabricating. I have long suspected that if someone could actually get to the bottom of the money laundering going on in ukraine, there would be british intel facilitating the blackmail of US officials to get more involvement/funding out of us


Especially when you remember the shit they pulled to drag us into WW1….which bit them in the ass later when Hitler came along.
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Small child at Walmart. He was probably around 5 or 6 years old being pushed in a shopping cart by an old trailer park looking hag. This boy smiled at me from the cart as they passed and his baby teeth were literally rotted black. His face was almost a spitting imagine of Sloth from The Goonies except with a full head of hair. Looking back I'm pretty sure he had fetal alcohol syndrome.

What he said as he smiled though was chilling.  He said "I'll fuck your ass" with a black toothed grin. The mom or grandma didn't even acknowledge what he said she just kept on pushing the cart. I was shocked. Didn't know what to do or say. Definitely an evil messed up child though.
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That reminded me.

My best friend through elementary school had an insane cousin who often stayed, with his mom and sisters, at my friend's house. He was four to nine years old when I knew him. I don't recall exactly what disorder they said he had, but he'd say the most obscene things and was prone to violent outbursts.

I recall vividly one occasion where he chased us around with a kitchen knife. My friend's mom and his aunt(the crazy kid's mom) locked him in a bedrooms after the rest of us ran from the room when he fell to the floor trying to lunge at one of my friend's other cousins. All the other kids just laughed about it and the adults nonchalantly said "Oh, he'll calm down in a bit." as the crazy kid growled while pounding on the door.

I'll occasionally search his name to see if there's any news stories about him but nothing ever comes up. He has the same name as an MLB player, though. So that could be hindering my searches.
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During my 27 years as a CO I met alot of wacko's and psycho's but working with Ronnie Defeo [ of Amityville Horror fame ] and conversing with him he had these psychotic eyes that twinkled leading you to believe he actually enjoyed killing every member of his family.
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Had this goofy fucker back when I was on AD that would start ever sentence with, "Mmm, yeah..." or "Mmm, OK..."

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Mmmm, yeah, that’s creepy.

Mmmm, OK, can you tell us more?

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Ron Jeremy, Vegas, 2016ish
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I had a similar experience when I was about 10 and my sister around 3. We were in the car while my dad ran into the store to grab a bottle of wine. He always told us to lay on the horn if anyone messed with us. This dude with long, stringy hair about mid-30s opens the car door next to us and just stares at us. He keeps looking at me and my sister licking his lips and grinning. He just kept looking and staring at us. I could sense he was gaining pleasure from whatever he was thinking. I stared him in the eyes for about 4 seconds and leaned over and laid on the horn. He snapped out of it and as dad came out he drove off.
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I had a similar experience when I was a kid.

I was stopped, waiting for my brother and mother, on a in bend on a secluded bike trail. A man on a bike came around the bend in front of me. He saw me, abruptly stopped, fixated on me, and gave a ghoulish smile as he began to dismount his bike. Thankfully, my brother and mother caught-up with me while he was still walking toward me. Upon seeing them, his face voided of any expression, he climbed back on his bike and quickly fled.

Thirty-years later, I can still see his face - The creepiest, evilest smile I've seen in person.


I had a similar experience when I was about 10 and my sister around 3. We were in the car while my dad ran into the store to grab a bottle of wine. He always told us to lay on the horn if anyone messed with us. This dude with long, stringy hair about mid-30s opens the car door next to us and just stares at us. He keeps looking at me and my sister licking his lips and grinning. He just kept looking and staring at us. I could sense he was gaining pleasure from whatever he was thinking. I stared him in the eyes for about 4 seconds and leaned over and laid on the horn. He snapped out of it and as dad came out he drove off.

That was the only time I've ever felt as if I were in the presence of evil. I've made acquaintances of Satanists, self-proclaimed witches, other weirdos, creeps, and maniacs. I've yet to meet anyone that gave off such a malevolence as that man. Including some other probable pedos in my childhood neighborhood...

A couple of years before my bike trail encounter, my friends and I were playing in the alley behind our houses. A couple in their 20s approached us and started chatting with us. The girl, a rather attractive brunette, then said "Hey, would any of you like to come to our house? We can take some pictures of you all."  They then told us where they lived.
 
We declined to accompany them, they left, one of the kids immediately told his parents, the police were called, and we never saw the couple again.

I didn't pick-up any evil vibes from them. I'm sure their age, appearance, and demeanor probably affected the impression the made, though.
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i’m sure some of you have seen the documentary, called, “the curious case of natalia grace.”

it’s beyond fucked up. left me confused.
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I've told this story before here.
1969 ish mother to me to a birthday party at a place called the Milk Pail when I was 8ish yo. West Chicago suburb.
There was a clown, later he became rather famous.
I have since always been creeped out by clowns.
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How/why did you come to adopt her? That's terrifying. How do you sleep?
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Our adopted 15 year old daughter.  Reviewing camera footage from inside the house is downright disturbing at times.  The complete lack of emotions she has. The staring and studying she's constantly doing to us when we're not paying attention.

Hearing her tell us, while using her baby voice, that she is willing to get us arrested in order to scare us into letting her have social media and get rid of our rules.  

Hearing how excited she gets over horror movies or other violent things.

Hearing the Psychologist tell us he's diagnosing her with 6 things, including borderline personality disorder, oppositional defiant disorder, and severe major depressive disorder.  Hearing that she can't understand empathy and will likely get diagnosed with Sociopathy at 18.

Listening to her so easily lie to my own mother about things in an effort to triangulate and manipulate knowing she's doing it in front of cameras, yet still doing it.  

Hearing her take it to sexual leaning allegations towards me (accused me of being a creep and trying to check her out), and the most disturbing part was later when she was justifying it, saying she knew she was lying but was just mad at me.

I fucking hate my life.


How/why did you come to adopt her? That's terrifying. How do you sleep?


She lived with us for 6 months before we adopted her.  Took in her 2 other siblings but they needed a lot of help due to violent meltdowns and other things so the state pulled them out and put them in intensive care.  The oldest was a bit of a handful, but nothing unexpected.  The day we adopted her is the day I saw just how scary good she was at lying and realized we'd been fooled and my gut sunk so bad.  I knew right then how bad the future is going to be.  

We're getting her into a therapeutic group home soon.  

My wife and I can't keep living in this stress.  Lots of cameras up inside the house.  Lots of documentation and being open books with therapists, family, school, friends, etc so they all know what she's capable of.  Most people see a charming, well adjusted teenager, at least at first.  All she knows is to be fake and act the part she thinks people want her to act.  

It's been isolating.  I've had to out crazy her a few times to keep things in line.  

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Peeping tom neighbor. Everyone hates him, shame that he can't just die.
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She lived with us for 6 months before we adopted her.  Took in her 2 other siblings but they needed a lot of help due to violent meltdowns and other things so the state pulled them out and put them in intensive care.  The oldest was a bit of a handful, but nothing unexpected.  The day we adopted her is the day I saw just how scary good she was at lying and realized we'd been fooled and my gut sunk so bad.  I knew right then how bad the future is going to be.  

We're getting her into a therapeutic group home soon.  

My wife and I can't keep living in this stress.  Lots of cameras up inside the house.  Lots of documentation and being open books with therapists, family, school, friends, etc so they all know what she's capable of.  Most people see a charming, well adjusted teenager, at least at first.  All she knows is to be fake and act the part she thinks people want her to act.  

It's been isolating.  I've had to out crazy her a few times to keep things in line.  

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Our adopted 15 year old daughter.  Reviewing camera footage from inside the house is downright disturbing at times.  The complete lack of emotions she has. The staring and studying she's constantly doing to us when we're not paying attention.

Hearing her tell us, while using her baby voice, that she is willing to get us arrested in order to scare us into letting her have social media and get rid of our rules.  

Hearing how excited she gets over horror movies or other violent things.

Hearing the Psychologist tell us he's diagnosing her with 6 things, including borderline personality disorder, oppositional defiant disorder, and severe major depressive disorder.  Hearing that she can't understand empathy and will likely get diagnosed with Sociopathy at 18.

Listening to her so easily lie to my own mother about things in an effort to triangulate and manipulate knowing she's doing it in front of cameras, yet still doing it.  

Hearing her take it to sexual leaning allegations towards me (accused me of being a creep and trying to check her out), and the most disturbing part was later when she was justifying it, saying she knew she was lying but was just mad at me.

I fucking hate my life.


How/why did you come to adopt her? That's terrifying. How do you sleep?


She lived with us for 6 months before we adopted her.  Took in her 2 other siblings but they needed a lot of help due to violent meltdowns and other things so the state pulled them out and put them in intensive care.  The oldest was a bit of a handful, but nothing unexpected.  The day we adopted her is the day I saw just how scary good she was at lying and realized we'd been fooled and my gut sunk so bad.  I knew right then how bad the future is going to be.  

We're getting her into a therapeutic group home soon.  

My wife and I can't keep living in this stress.  Lots of cameras up inside the house.  Lots of documentation and being open books with therapists, family, school, friends, etc so they all know what she's capable of.  Most people see a charming, well adjusted teenager, at least at first.  All she knows is to be fake and act the part she thinks people want her to act.  

It's been isolating.  I've had to out crazy her a few times to keep things in line.  



That's gnarly dude, I'm sorry. I feel bad for whatever it was that caused her and her siblings to be like that.

I hope you can get her in that group home, probably be better for everyone.

Good luck man, no good deed goes unpunished. I have thought about trying to do the adoption/foster thing if we don't want to have another of our own/go through pregnancy again or can't get pregnant, but it scares me for this reason.
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Our adopted 15 year old daughter.  Reviewing camera footage from inside the house is downright disturbing at times.  The complete lack of emotions she has. The staring and studying she's constantly doing to us when we're not paying attention.

Hearing her tell us, while using her baby voice, that she is willing to get us arrested in order to scare us into letting her have social media and get rid of our rules.  

Hearing how excited she gets over horror movies or other violent things.

Hearing the Psychologist tell us he's diagnosing her with 6 things, including borderline personality disorder, oppositional defiant disorder, and severe major depressive disorder.  Hearing that she can't understand empathy and will likely get diagnosed with Sociopathy at 18.

Listening to her so easily lie to my own mother about things in an effort to triangulate and manipulate knowing she's doing it in front of cameras, yet still doing it.  

Hearing her take it to sexual leaning allegations towards me (accused me of being a creep and trying to check her out), and the most disturbing part was later when she was justifying it, saying she knew she was lying but was just mad at me.

I fucking hate my life.
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Man, I know we've argued a lot here on Arf, but I truly feel for you on this.  You're a better man than I.

@Rustler
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I had to haul this inmate to the state hospital (where they filmed the cockoos nest) and he was this creepy gross pathetic human.  I'm afraid to know what happened to him.  Anyway, it's surprising that I was assigned the task to transport him.  He wasn't a big guy, a little shorter than me but I was 22 at the time.  Anyway, he was a sex offender and he literally spent every hour of his day masturbating.  It was a 6 hour drive to Salem and about two hours in - it got very old so I took an extra pair of leg irons and secured him to the seats so he couldn't touch himself.  I would have liked to gag him.  He schooled me into things he wanted to do to me non stop.  I wonder if they got him well enough to send to prison.  
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I think so too. Ed Gein was making himself a woman suit just like buffalo bill.
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Actually I believe Ed Gein was the inspiration for Buffalo Bill



I think so too. Ed Gein was making himself a woman suit just like buffalo bill.


Buffalo Bill was a composite of a few different serial killers. Ted Bundy for example used the same fake cast technique.

Technically Ed Gein really wasn’t a serial killer since he only had two confirmed kills. Likely three since there’s a lot of circumstantial evidence he killed his brother but it could never be proven. Most of Ed’s “trophies” came from grave robbing.

Jerry Brudos also made lady suits.

Gary Heidnik kept women in a pit in his basement to torture them.

As a side note women at the bar aren’t interested in an extensive knowledge of serial killers. It’s lousy small talk.
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Evan Ramsey, bethel alaska high school shooter.
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I've shook the hand of Joe Biden. Pretty sure I win the thread. Yes it was as disgusting as you can imagine, like a cold wet snake squirming up your hand with no spine.

Fuck Joe Biden.
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I also shook his hand once.  Normally I would have refused, but I was at an event and didn't want to make it about me, so I just politely shook his hand.  It was about a year before he ran with Obama.
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Back in the 90's, Bill Clinton visited town for a week or so.
The construction company my Dad worked for at the time got hired to run their water truck in front of his motorcade, can't have a dusty gravel road.
I went to work with him one day and got to meet him.

So I guess Bill Clinton?
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Even the ostensibly good ones come back coated in slime.  They emulate mannerisms from the people they are around, and it shows.
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Must be a swamp creature habit, it's vile.


Even the ostensibly good ones come back coated in slime.  They emulate mannerisms from the people they are around, and it shows.
It's really tough going from a nobody to having several people who's sole job in life is to cater to your every whim - ass, trips, gold bars (Jersey Boy Men ndez), whatever - to get what they want for their benefactor from the public fisc.

Politics is Hollywood for ugly people.
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Tough call.  I"ve come across a few creeps.

We were 8-9 years old with a neighbor kid the same age, George.  In one shed was a stack of old playboy magazines.  He used to pull out centerfolks, tack them to the door inside, and light breasts and crotches on fire with matches.  I was young enough for this stuff not to interest me in the slightest.

He got so excited when they caught fire, it was like he got a thrill by an electric shock.  I look for him on offender databases every now and then, but it's like he dropped off the face of the earth.



Recently, a professional specializing in environmental permitting.  She talked the good talk, able to accomplish more by morning coffee than I could in a week at my old company.  I was astounded - I could never get that kind of response out of any regulator.

Management bought it all, hook line, and sinker.  By God, she was an superstar.  She demanded and got a personal truck to her requirements in less than a week.  Noone questioned her work.  Everyone around her was a mouthbreathing knuckledragger not worth her time.  

The narrative started to come apart.  Problem was it was all BS.  Work not done, and permit applications not submitted could have killed a lesser company.  

She doubled down, undermining management to the CEO and flagrant lies about the operation to regulators.   She was finally asked to resign.  

She is cut from the same cloth as Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos.  By knowing this person, I can understand how ELizabeth Holmes got away with it for so long.



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I've worked with a bunch of weirdos but Tiny Tim is right up there with the weirdest.


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Former boss of mine was one weird dude.

After I bailed, he was busted with kiddie shit and eventually deaded.

I would have pissed on his grave but not worth the effort for my time if day.


Why is it soo many people in mgmt are fucking head cases? Must be a common attribute they look for in certain industries.
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Was this in CT?

If so, I worked with that dude.

He was always playing with knives, incessantly so.

Thanks to him I’ve never trusted knife fanatics since…
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No, Glenwood City, WI.  And yess he was into knives.

Jason Luepke, 15 years old.
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David Camm

You'll have to Google him if you're interested.

He did it.
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Guilty AF

Never met him, but I know a bunch of people who do (did). I can't believe they let that fucker out of prison.
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Uhm actually yeah. When I was living at the apartment. I have a rotating schedule so every other week I have a random day off during the week for working the Saturday coming up. It was one of my week days off so a lot of people at the complex were at work, a lot of available parking spaces in the parking lot. Anyway, I was getting out of my car and it was pretty secluded. Usually people are walking dogs or some such shit but not that day. It was just me and one random guy. As I’m getting out of my car he comes up to me and starts talking about God knows what. I just kinda acknowledged him with the intentions of just walking to my unit. He gets in front of me and starts getting into depth conversation about being my friend and asking what apartment I live in asking me my name and all these other random personal questions like do I live alone. I made some stuff up and was going to walk away. Well as I’m about to walk away he comes in real close to what I think was to hug me and possibly lay his head on my shoulder. I’m about 300 pounds and this guy was maybe 160 so It was at this point I gently but firmly relocated him I think I scared him a little cause he started putting his hands in the air saying okay okay it’s cool then kinda just walked away. Overall pretty uneventful but definitely weird.
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