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I wish I had been interested in the early 80's, I'd buy two or three at those prices now. I wouldn't mind having just one.
A BAR and a Glock 18 are the only full auto firearms that interest me. |
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Ohio Ordnance Works did up a modernized bar.
The HCAR and The BAR |
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I hope you don't mean this: http://www.browning.com/content/dam/browning/product/firearms/rifles/bar/support/BARFinalBanner.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/cq5dam.web.1200.1200.jpeg View Quote I have a lefty version in .308 as my deer rifle. Awesome rifle, but nothing at all like a 1918. |
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I wish I had been interested in the early 80's, I'd buy two or three at those prices now. I wouldn't mind having just one. A BAR and a Glock 18 are the only full auto firearms that interest me. View Quote Plenty of FA interests me, but I think I'd need two BARs. One to be treated nice, shot but preserved in historical condition. Second would probably be fired every day with the biggest grin ever. |
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Would be neat to own a piece of history like that and that it was used by Bonnie and Clyde. Well Clyde at least.
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ISn't there a modernized one floating around out there? View Quote OHio Ordnance Works makes a semi auto version, plus one that's been slightly modernized. A couple years ago when the previous place I worked was doing good and making money and paying profit sharing, I bought one. They used to do a promotion through Lent, with discounts on various items. Usually opened and closed whith a sale for the day on their BAR. I don't know if they still do that. They are even more expensive now. |
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I stood next to someone shooting one from a bench to a downhill clearing about 75 yards away. it puts up a impressive display of firepower. very controlled and accurate
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View Quote Definitely cool, but that's a shadow of my grail gun. Wood, full auto, FA, etc Doesn't have the character or....you know...full auto. |
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I'd own one in a heartbeat, sure it only has a 20 round mag and it sorta weird to shoot prone but damn if it ain't the most manly shaped chunk of steel ever devised.
Also the gunfight in Devils Rejects, 10/10 The Devil's Rejects shootout scene More BAR goodness Breaking Bad - Best Scene of all time |
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I'd own one in a heartbeat, sure it only has a 20 round mag and it sorta weird to shoot prone but damn if it ain't the most manly shaped chunk of steel ever devised. View Quote You get it. It really does something for me. Thompsons are fucking awesome, but BARs are just next level America. |
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FND for the win. Lots of upgrades to the BAR. Pistol grip, quick change barrel, more calibers including 7.62, which took the FAL magazine.
FND Machine gun FND |
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I've loved the BAR since I was a kid reading WW2 books and looking at all the pictures. Probably don't get much attention around here because even the semi auto repros are so expensive.
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FND for the win. Lots of upgrades to the BAR. Pistol grip, quick change barrel, more calibers including 7.62, which took the FAL magazine. FND http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/fndbipod.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yam510H2TBs View Quote Definitely cool. That being said, I clicked your link, agreed with them and then reaffirmed my decision. One of the main complaints against the BAR in combat was its fixed barrel. The concept of an automatic rifle for walking fire was obsolete virtually as soon as it was introduced, and the BAR in combat tended to be used as a light machine gun. View Quote Wrong timing...awesome gun. |
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I'd love t have one in 1918 version. Not the WW2 version. View Quote You sir, are a real lover of the M1918. The base version, as envisioned by John Browning , is incredible. For the uninitiated, on full auto with a bit of practice, you CAN hold the whole mag on a IPSC target, at 100 meters. And with a bit more, you can do "fives", on four of the same target. There are very few "rifles" that will reward you with a bigger smile than the original M1918 BAR, when shot properly and with skill. It takes work, but damn is it worth it. Much as I love the BREN, the M1918 is simply an amazing piece of work for it's time, and what it is. |
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OHio Ordnance Works makes a semi auto version, plus one that's been slightly modernized. A couple years ago when the previous place I worked was doing good and making money and paying profit sharing, I bought one. They used to do a promotion through Lent, with discounts on various items. Usually opened and closed whith a sale for the day on their BAR. I don't know if they still do that. They are even more expensive now. View Quote |
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My dad carried a BAR in Korea during the war. He said it was heavy but reliable.
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I'd love to have the Colt Monitor version.
http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1929 |
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Much like the Thompson, a world beater when it was introduced, but by the time WW2 rolled around and BARS finally got to play for real, they were getting a bit dated.
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You see discussion in the Armory forum every once in a while. There are parts kits out there.
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You see discussion in the Armory forum every once in a while. There are parts kits out there. BAR KIT View Quote I hate this site. Here I am thinking we'd discuss a gun. Now I need this and an HCAR. Gun budget planned this year. 2018 may need the year of the BAR. |
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Love the BAR without the bipod. I hate WW2 games that include the BAR with the bipod mount.
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My grandfather was a BAR machine gunner in WWII. He was shot in the arm late in the war while he was clearing a town in Belgium on a scout team by German machine gun fire. Always had interest in them. I have a real BAR belt in my rifle room.
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I was lucky enough to spend some time with a 1918A1 and I came away with a couple of observations.
It's a heavy beast. Really good for keeping rounds on target when shooting unsupported. Really shitty if you have to hump that thing all over Europe or Korea. BAR gunners were tough as nails. They are also a barrel heating sonavabitch. After just one rip through a twenty rounder will have that barrel way too hot to touch with bare hands. If you ever watch those documentary films of solders fighting in the Pacific, you can see the barrels with smoke coming off them. I can see why now. At the time, I was really surprised that twenty 30.06 rounds had that many BTUs in them. Regardless, they are awesome to shoot and I loved every minute of it. |
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I owned a BAR for about ten years, an M1918 Winchester upgraded to A2 specs. I foolishly sold it.
I now have two of OOW's semiautomatic versions, that I built on OOW receiver kits with the other parts being like-new GI surplus. With that background, I have to be honest. The BAR is what it is, with plenty of drawbacks both in the WW1 version and the WW2 version. We used it because that's what we had. As a light machine gun, the German MG42 was head and shoulders better. I'd be happy to expound if anyone is interested. |
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I too have an Ohio Ordnance Works 1918A3 Semi....it is a beautiful work of art. Mine is a very early production (s/n under 350...) with all USGI parts (as they ran out of USGI, they had to start making them, much like M1A builds...). I stuck with a USGI plastic butt stock, since pretty much all WWII issue guns used the plastic. I'd like to get a USGI walnut butt just to have...
It is heavy, but dead nuts accurate. I can hit clay birds at 100 yds off hand. It is so heavy, and with the semi auto action, there isn't much recoil. Once you have the gun, then the fun is collecting all the goodies, tools, BAR belts, manuals, the whole shebang.... I highly recommend it! Attached File |
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HCAR. Yea, I will get one eventually!
And maybe even a 1918 BAR. Just Awesome. |
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I've handled a quality semi-auto conversion of a 1947(?) parts kit build. It was incredibly heavy for what it was, the sights sucked, and the ergonomics were all wrong. It is still a very cool gun.
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I remember inrangeTV on youtube taking a semi auto one to a match. They didn't seem very impressed if I remember correctly. I think they had problems with the bipod and found the rifle too heavy to effectively use from an standing offhand position. Great for it's day but when you pick one up and run around shooting one you see why they switched to something else.
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Can you break it down on the differences or was it cosmetic? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/190221/image-147528.JPG ^ See it now. I agree on the simplistic look of the 1918. Without the bi-pod, looks like it was meant to be fired on the move, from the hip? |
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One sunny afternoon in some hills on Camp Pendleton we were blessed to have two of them and cases of loaded magazines. Shooting prone across a valley at some 55 gallon drums. Great, never to forget fun watching those drums bounce around like beer cans.
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I'd love to have one but we have the stupid NFA that makes me unable to afford one
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I remember inrangeTV on youtube taking a semi auto one to a match. They didn't seem very impressed if I remember correctly. I think they had problems with the bipod and found the rifle too heavy to effectively use from an standing offhand position. Great for it's day but when you pick one up and run around shooting one you see why they switched to something else. View Quote They were comparing it to a semi FG42. Much lighter, better bipod and the pistol grip really helps with ergonomics. It's not like the FG isn't a 20 year younger design or anything. |
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