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Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:33:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:35:47 PM EDT
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Several reasons.

1: Military acquisition BS, even for SOF. It's easier to lay out a niche position that is unfilled, IE, a reliable, suppressed SBR capable of F/A fire and breaking contact drills, rather than get improvements made to an existing contract weapon. Same schtick they used to get the Glock 19; lightweight mid-sized/compact handgun.

2: HK marketing BS. Those fuckers will promise you the world to sell a gun; they'll tell you it's self-cleaning, comes with a complimentary blowjob and retirement gig, can fire with a barrel full of water, is made of unobtanium and capable of 50K rounds of F/A before barrel is shot out to 4 MOA. They had former SOF guys on board for development, for additional marketing, most like. They trash talked the M4 for decades with the intent of making our men doubt the effectiveness of their weapon, and frankly, they ought to be sued into bankruptcy for it.

3: While others can give better testimony on the development of the CQBR/MK18, it took awhile for Crane to perfect when used with a suppressor. Lots of trial and error, I'd imagine, depending on the suppressor, gas port size, exact barrel length, recoil spring, buffer weight, temperature variation, ammo selection, magazines, etc. Once they were rolled out, they began replacing 416's as they went down. Lighter, fewer parts breakages, easier to service, and much cheaper. Simpler logistics, too, since they use the same parts as the M4. The 416, on the other hand, is easier to tune to different barrel lengths and suppressor use, since the piston assembly allows excess gas to vent. This is simpler and allows for more loose tolerances than trying to get exact gas port sizes needed for a DI gun to function optimally.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:48:00 PM EDT
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Is that why no one is using the SCAR in 5.56?
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Because the SCAR had not been perfected yet.
Is that why no one is using the SCAR in 5.56?
Everyone else is waiting on the XM8 to be perfected.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:50:16 PM EDT
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Everyone else is waiting on the XM8 to be perfected.
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Because the SCAR had not been perfected yet.
Is that why no one is using the SCAR in 5.56?
Everyone else is waiting on the XM8 to be perfected.
That was an abomination of the tallest order.  Straight out of Demolition Man grade BULLSHIT.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:54:42 PM EDT
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Did one a y’all put Joglee up to this?
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Lol.  I was thinking the same thing when I saw this thread.
Link Posted: 12/4/2018 11:56:07 PM EDT
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Because they hadn’t trialed the XCR yet
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And no one ever will.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 12:25:36 AM EDT
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PSA's website was down.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 12:39:18 AM EDT
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There's a bit of an art to getting a short barreled, suppressed AR15 running right. Buffer weights, gas port sizes, ejection pressure curves, etc etc.
We have that shit ironed out now, in 2018.

Back in the day, that wasn't the case. So the H&K 416 was selected- short barreled suppressed performance.
The heavy free floated barrel didn't hurt, either.
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We take our 10.5 and 11.5 setups for granted nowadays.  Keep in mind the 416 is a old gun.  It was the hotness many moons ago.  Now? Meh.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 12:51:53 AM EDT
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After years of testing they realized that HK and LWRC were superior platforms. The .gov just couldn't make a satisfactory deal with LWRC.
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 8:30:39 AM EDT
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I haven’t seen a good answer on this, but I probably could have looked harder: did they really get rid of bolt carrier tilt on the 416? If so, how?
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Met with adam arms, lol
Link Posted: 12/5/2018 8:42:50 AM EDT
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So after all is said and done, are they still being used?
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They hate the SCAR WORSE.
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I’ve heard the same thing from a buddy who is an equipment vender to them.  Said they hate the SCAR so much they’ve even throw them off the ship into the ocean.
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