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Posted: 4/10/2010 11:59:16 PM EST
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I'm not sure wither, when I first started teachign my GF how to shoot she did teh same thing, I taught her the right way and now she leans in both with pistols and rifles.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:01:16 AM EST
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They are scared, was that so hard to figure out?
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:01:51 AM EST
[#3]
Yes... I think they are trying to get away from the gun. My wife was like that at first.
My wife –– 
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:06:36 AM EST
[#4]
I notice in some videos from Youtube that the person shooting the pistol use the "teacup" grip where the support hand is placed under the magazine. teacup grip
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:10:24 AM EST
[#5]
Because the weapon is heavy.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:11:40 AM EST
[#6]
Quoted: Because the weapon is heavy. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:12:00 AM EST
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Better, is when you tell them to lean forward, they just move their hips forward, not lean.
You have to tell them to lean forward FROM the waist. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:12:41 AM EST
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I never understood it either. I mostly have our oldest cured of it, but she still flinches and anticipates the shot. The younger one is a very skinny kid, and small for her age. I notice it's more to do with her trying to incorrectly find her balance and hold the muzzle up straight.
Of course, neither of them listen to Dad when he tries to tell them they are making it harder than it needs to be. Nooooooo, why would they do that? Dad's sooooooo dorky and not cool and all. I need to remember to take pictures of how dorky they look doing that. Feet planted as close together as possible and pointed downrange. Rifle held impossible somehow out front. Leaning wayyyy back looking like they will fall over at the slightest breeze...which they have done. Which is why Dorky uncool Dad stands close enough to catch them and the rifle... |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:20:08 AM EST
[#9]
They do have a certain style.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:26:12 AM EST
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:28:26 AM EST
[#11]
Has to do with where their CM/CG is placed.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:34:30 AM EST
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They've had things go off in their face before........
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:35:22 AM EST
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Quoted: Is that the KoolAid man? Hmm, don't see a LaRue hat. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:45:31 AM EST
[#14]
When i first started shooting as a kid i found myself leaning back slowly while trying to stabilize the weapon and focus on the sights and target. It was purely a training issue, my dad gave me no tips whatsoever. But later on after reading gun magazines and books i got some good knowledge of the different proper stances. And as i got older i got better and got proper training. I've finally gotten rid of all those bad habits i had when i was a kid. Now when i teach a girl or anybody who has never shot a gun before, i go over the basics of proper stances and techniques before even going to the shooting range. It is all about giving them proper training so they don't develop bad habits.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 12:58:46 AM EST
[#15]
Its a normal stance to balance the gun. Most people have to be taught to lean into it. That is not natural and puts stress on the body. We train for what does not come naturally.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 1:20:59 AM EST
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Its a normal stance to balance the gun. Most people have to be taught to lean into it. That is not natural and puts stress on the body. We train for what does not come naturally. This is well said. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 2:02:03 AM EST
[#17]
Some will never learn, no matter how many times you say "don't lean forward" and "don't use your teeth".
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Posted: 4/11/2010 2:08:42 AM EST
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Its a normal stance to balance the gun. Most people have to be taught to lean into it. That is not natural and puts stress on the body. We train for what does not come naturally. Spoil sport. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 2:11:35 AM EST
[#19]
so we can stare at thier tits while they shoot
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Posted: 4/11/2010 2:36:17 AM EST
[#20]
Not sure. Last weekend took my inlaws to the range, a couple of them for the first time. Demonstrated over and over how to grip the pistol ( .22lr ) and how to stand to shoot. After the first shot, shifting their grip around, moving their feet, and starting the back lean.
We were shooting close, maybe 10 yards. At first at least all shots were on paper, as they leaned back and shifted their grip around, shots were going off the paper. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 2:38:00 AM EST
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Unfamiliarity with and anticipation of the recoil of the weapon? WMD. Everyone sees how much they come back on you in TV land.
Fear of weapons that go boom?
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:39:21 AM EST
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Has to do with where their CM/CG is placed. Yes. Top-heavy. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:41:58 AM EST
[#23]
Lack of upper body strength
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:42:42 AM EST
[#24]
Lack of upper body strength.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:44:24 AM EST
[#25]
Quoted: +1Quoted: Because the weapon is heavy. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:47:33 AM EST
[#26]
Quoted: Quoted: +1Quoted: Because the weapon is heavy. A pistol is heavy?  |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:48:33 AM EST
[#27]
I have never seen prone with the toes pointed up
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:48:50 AM EST
[#28]
...they think they are getting as far away from the gun as possible? Yes, if you lean back you get further away... like leaning back when you're lighting a short fuse. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:51:54 AM EST
[#29]
Because they are subconsciously afraid of getting knocked in the teeth by... whatever they think would be doing so.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:52:45 AM EST
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:57:25 AM EST
[#31]
Quoted:
Because the weapon is heavy. wouldn't boobs act as a counter weight? 
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Posted: 4/11/2010 3:59:38 AM EST
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:02:11 AM EST
[#33]
I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions.
http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html 
I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:02:13 AM EST
[#34]
My girlfriend is starting to get a little better. She usually keeps ending up somewhere in between correct and woman shooting stance though lol.
she wanted to shoot with the bipod thingies out haha |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:09:01 AM EST
[#35]
Guys do the same thing when they are learning how to shoot.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:16:14 AM EST
[#36]
Quoted:
I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.
That style of shooting is only good for marksmanship competition. It is totally incorrect for real world scenarios. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:18:53 AM EST
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Lack of upper body strength True, but by design. Women are biologically different than men, and many more aspects than the obvious. Their center of gravity is lower. This is so they can carry a baby and still function during pregnancy and after. Men's center of gravity is much higher, as we were designed to perform a different function. Fighting, working, more upper body strength means a higher center. Modern times may mix the roles, but it doesn't change the biology. Not yet anyway. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:19:59 AM EST
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Guys do the same thing when they are learning how to shoot. Not when you have a DI whacking you with a metal cleaning rod, you don't! |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:21:05 AM EST
[#39]
My wife does that. I have to remind her to lean in. Oldest daughter does it too.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:24:28 AM EST
[#40]
Everyone does it when they start, they don't want the "scary, noisy bang maker" thing going off near their face.
Shit I do the same thing sometimes working up new handloads
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:37:21 AM EST
[#41]
Quoted: I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys. So you are saying that you don't understand the difference between practical shooting and match shooting? Try using those stances and firing round after round in quick succession and see if you can keep your COG under control. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:44:33 AM EST
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Quoted:
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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.
So you are saying that you don't understand the difference between practical shooting and match shooting? Try using those stances and firing round after round in quick succession and see if you can keep your COG under control. I only shoot matches. I don't need to shoot like I'm in a war.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:51:38 AM EST
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Quoted:
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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.
So you are saying that you don't understand the difference between practical shooting and match shooting? Try using those stances and firing round after round in quick succession and see if you can keep your COG under control. I only shoot matches. I don't need to shoot like I'm in a war.
Yeah well, the biathlon is to shooting sports what bike cops are to law enforcement... 
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Posted: 4/11/2010 4:53:16 AM EST
[#44]
The same reason girls "throw like girls".
Part is physiology,they're just built differently with less upper body strength and a lower CM, but they're also less likely to have learned whatever currently passes as proper technique.Give a gun to a slightly built male adult or child with the same unfamiliarity with holding a gun and they'll do much the same. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:33:01 AM EST
[#45]
Quoted: Quoted: Guys do the same thing when they are learning how to shoot. Not when you have a DI whacking you with a metal cleaning rod, you don't! Guys do the same thing when they are learning to shoot unless they have a DI whacking them with a metal cleaning rod. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:37:06 AM EST
[#46]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys. So you are saying that you don't understand the difference between practical shooting and match shooting? Try using those stances and firing round after round in quick succession and see if you can keep your COG under control. I only shoot matches. I don't need to shoot like I'm in a war. Train like you fight,fight like you train |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:37:42 AM EST
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Quoted:
They've had things go off in their face before........
 Okay that was pretty good.
Lower center of balance and it's instinctive for us to lean back when holding something heavy away from our bodies. It's stupid and often we don't even realize we're doing it until we've thrown our back out or lost our balance.
Training, practice, patience. It goes away. |
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:40:02 AM EST
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What is wrong with their necks? They never seem to be able to place their head right on a stock.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:41:24 AM EST
[#49]
Same reason they throw funny.
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Posted: 4/11/2010 5:49:34 AM EST
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Quoted:
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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions. http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.
So you are saying that you don't understand the difference between practical shooting and match shooting? Try using those stances and firing round after round in quick succession and see if you can keep your COG under control. I only shoot matches. I don't need to shoot like I'm in a war.
Train like you fight,fight like you train Like that will help my score(s). Some of you guys sit at home mastarbating to the fantasy of civil war and don't compete in any matches, while the rest of us enjoy competing. I perfer to compete and use what works, your chances of the later are less than the lottery in your state. But continue on in your fantasy. I perfer to fantasize about skinny, big breasted womenz.
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