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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:52:24 PM EST
[#1]
Because steel case is shit?
Our that's the hive think on it. Thus no market |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:53:27 PM EST
[#2]
Soft nose 308.
BTW, I’ve killed plenty of hogs with OTM and FMJ in 308 and 556. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:55:08 PM EST
[#3]
Try Tula 165gr SP's
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:55:51 PM EST
[#4]
I think I read once that steel case x39 soft points are more consistent than hollow points. I don't have anything in either cartridge so I've never bought any ammo.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:57:32 PM EST
[#5]
Banaul makes (or least made) a .308 soft point load that they sell under the Brown Bear brand.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:57:49 PM EST
[#6]
I think its because there is a certain snobbery around using steel cased ammo for anything other than target ammo
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:08:18 PM EST
[#7]
If you need cheap, effective .308, roll your own.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:09:16 PM EST
[#8]
Steel case FMJ kills hogs just fine.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:09:42 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Banaul makes (or least made) a .308 soft point load that they sell under the Brown Bear brand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Banaul makes (or least made) a .308 soft point load that they sell under the Brown Bear brand. Quoted: Soft nose 308. BTW, I've killed plenty of hogs with OTM and FMJ in 308 and 556. Quoted: Try Tula 165gr SP's  |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:10:46 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because steel case is shit? Our that's the hive think on it. Thus no market |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:10:51 PM EST
[#11]
Just pull the bullets, turn them backwards and reseat.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:12:15 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Soft nose 308. BTW, I’ve killed plenty of hogs with OTM and FMJ in 308 and 556. Quick answer + best answer. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:13:15 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Steel case FMJ kills hogs just fine. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:14:15 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just pull the bullets, turn them backwards and reseat.  |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:15:06 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think its because there is a certain snobbery around using steel cased ammo for anything other than target ammo Do what now? |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:16:53 PM EST
[#16]
They did.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:18:49 PM EST
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:21:49 PM EST
[#18]
Load your own if you can't find what you want at a price you are willing to pay. Have been doing this for more than a half century.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:24:30 PM EST
[#19]
Go with soft point. The hollow points don't open and the fmj ice pick.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:25:32 PM EST
[#20]
Monarch makes a brass cased 150grn soft point 308 round that shoots great and has no problem putting down hogs.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:28:46 PM EST
[#21]
Reloading wouldn't really be a great option as the hog hunting takes place at night on foot and there is a lot of moving around chasing pigs. No time to look around in 3-4' tall weeds for brass. And no, a rattly-ass brass catcher is not a good idea.
I do kinda want to get into reloading for other reasons, but that's like a whole extra hobby almost, which I don't truly have time for currently. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:29:44 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Monarch makes a brass cased 150grn soft point 308 round that shoots great and has no problem putting down hogs. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:31:31 PM EST
[#23]
I bet Wolf 308 FMJ will kill a hog
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:32:58 PM EST
[#24]
Hollow points in pistol ammo is for expansion because of the relatively low velocity of pistol ammo. The equivalent function in a rifle round is the soft-point. The hollow point in rifle rounds according to Hornady literature is to change the overall balance of the bullet toward the heel of the ballet.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:34:56 PM EST
[#25]
165 grain Soft Point and even the FMJ kills hogs just fine
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Posted: 12/29/2021 5:45:58 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hollow points in pistol ammo is for expansion because of the relatively low velocity of pistol ammo. The equivalent function in a rifle round is the soft-point. The hollow point in rifle rounds according to Hornady literature is to change the overall balance of the bullet toward the heel of the ballet. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 6:10:53 PM EST
[#27]
Don't forget the snake boots.....
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:30:14 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget the snake boots..... |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:47:30 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I truly did not know that. I'll stick with my FMJs for now unless I find some steel case soft points. Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hollow points in pistol ammo is for expansion because of the relatively low velocity of pistol ammo. The equivalent function in a rifle round is the soft-point. The hollow point in rifle rounds according to Hornady literature is to change the overall balance of the bullet toward the heel of the ballet. Years ago, my friend shot several javalinas in AZ with his AR15 and 55g FMJ. ETA BTW: FMJ is only good for hogs because they are so prevalent and are considered an invasive species, I believe FMJ 556NATO/223Rem is not legal for hunting like deer etc, every state's hunting regs differ, so be sure to check for your state. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:52:43 PM EST
[#30]
soft points are your answer. The HP Russian steel case stuff doesn't open as others have said.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:54:38 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reloading wouldn't really be a great option as the hog hunting takes place at night on foot and there is a lot of moving around chasing pigs. No time to look around in 3-4' tall weeds for brass. And no, a rattly-ass brass catcher is not a good idea. I do kinda want to get into reloading for other reasons, but that's like a whole extra hobby almost, which I don't truly have time for currently. You don’t have to pick up the brass just like you don’t pick up your steel cases. 308 has never been good at the cheap ammo game at least not in the last 20 years ish. Seems like 7.62x39 is what you’re looking for. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:55:13 PM EST
[#32]
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:04:01 PM EST
[#33]
Perfecta used to make a cheap 308 soft point you could get at Walmart for like 12 or so bucks a box.
Those days are over. 
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:07:03 PM EST
[#34]
I had a steel cased wolf round fail to ignite in my Fal and got seriously stuck in the chamber. Beating on the charging handle while keeping the rifle down range didn't work...doing the pogo maneuver with the rifle aimed at the ceiling of the outdoor range, while avoiding the muzzle, and hoping it didn't go off was a lot of fun.
Fuuuuuuuuck steel-cased .308. Never again. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:24:46 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a steel cased wolf round fail to ignite in my Fal and got seriously stuck in the chamber. Beating on the charging handle while keeping the rifle down range didn't work...doing the pogo maneuver with the rifle aimed at the ceiling of the outdoor range, while avoiding the muzzle, and hoping it didn't go off was a lot of fun. Fuuuuuuuuck steel-cased .308. Never again. Good idea to use good ammo even though it is a bit more expensive, chambering and stuck cases in the chamber can cause huge puckering problems |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:36:38 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just get some Federal soft point. $.60 a round on sale Edited https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/complaints-filed-against-honor-ammo-shop-beware.4039420/ ETA: That is definitely a scam website posted above. Do not order from honor ammo shop dot com!!! |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:41:13 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just get some Federal soft point. $.60 a round on sale… Edited out the scamsite @tsg68 Have you bought from them? I assume that's a scam website, BBB complaints about using zelle and getting ripped off Paypal is the only payment option thats reversible if they rip you off and its prompting me to chat with them about how to pay via paypal.......   Attached File |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:42:04 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @tsg68 have you ordered from them? I was about to, but then a google search came up with a fraud alert. https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/complaints-filed-against-honor-ammo-shop-beware.4039420/ ETA: because if they're GTG I was about to order a couple thousand rounds. lol I was getting out the CC and checking the shipping charges before I bought 2k myself |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:43:08 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @tsg68 Have you bought from them? I assume that's a scam website, BBB complaints about using zelle and getting ripped off Paypal is the only payment option thats reversible if they rip you off and its prompting me to chat with them about how to pay via paypal....... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22018/Screenshot__86__png-2221330.JPG |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:44:46 PM EST
[#40]
I use xm193 with excellent results in case you end up not finding what you’re looking for. Academy will probably have the monarch stuff if you look for a week or two on restock days.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:45:59 PM EST
[#41]
Everyone please go back and edit your post to remove their links and copied links to that fraudulent website so nobody here falls for it. Going to edit mine now.
@tsg68 @NWRed |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:47:27 PM EST
[#42]
I was about to say that’s cheaper than M80.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:49:57 PM EST
[#43]
Just make you some dum-dums and confirm they feed properly.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:50:07 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was about to say that's cheaper than M80. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:52:23 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @tsg68 have you ordered from them? I was about to, but then a google search came up with a fraud alert. https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/complaints-filed-against-honor-ammo-shop-beware.4039420/ ETA: because if they're GTG I was about to order a couple thousand rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just get some Federal soft point. $.60 a round on sale Edited https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/complaints-filed-against-honor-ammo-shop-beware.4039420/ ETA: because if they're GTG I was about to order a couple thousand rounds. They don't accept credit cards so I say scam. They also say 15% discount for Zelle definitely a scam. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 8:53:57 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't accept credit cards so I say scam. They also say 15% discount for Zelle definitely a scam. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 9:02:07 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think its because there is a certain snobbery around using steel cased ammo for anything other than target ammo I’ve been working on a load with 107 TMKs into wolf lacquered 6.5 Grendel cases, accuracy has been pretty good. Shooting a local PRS match with them will be hilarious
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Posted: 12/29/2021 9:03:45 PM EST
[#48]
Are you hunting to harvest the pigs or just get rid of them? If you’re treating it as pest control, FMJ’s will work fine. Some will die in the spot, others will go die somewhere else.
At Thanksgiving I killed 14 in a little over two hours using 55gr FMJ’s. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 9:06:10 PM EST
[#49]
Buy a single stage press , components and make your own.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 9:07:27 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been working on a load with 107 TMKs into wolf lacquered 6.5 Grendel cases, accuracy has been pretty good. Shooting a local PRS match with them will be hilarious |
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