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Posted: 3/5/2015 1:56:53 AM EDT
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The current non-ecoboost Ford Explorer PUVs are slow, fragile pieces of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The current non-ecoboost Ford Explorer PUVs are slow, fragile pieces of shit. You're not smart, are you? They are faster than a Crown Vic, handle well and brake well and my fat ass fits in them. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:43:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNot only are those bad police cars they're a symptom. ...the people in government are stealing too much money from people. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:44:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryRescue... Now that's funny. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote History"The MAN" ...always trying to trick you into calling him into your life. Hail what looks like a cab... get an interdiction. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:49:10 PM EDT
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First thing I searched for http://s3.amazonaws.com/airforcephotos.togetherweserved.com/257394_med.jpg Edit: better picture Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1980's series Chysler K Car. We had a shit ton of them when I was in the AF Security Police (I believe the Army MP's got some too). 4 cylinder engines  . We were told that Chrysler had to give the DOD and Government good prices on them in return for the Chrysler bail out with Iacocca. K cars were seen being used by a lot of Military and Federal agencies.First thing I searched for http://s3.amazonaws.com/airforcephotos.togetherweserved.com/257394_med.jpg Edit: better picture I saw an AF SP 1983 Gran Fury t-bone a CNDer driving a Mini Cooper trying to make it to the first C-5 that landed at RAF Greenham-Common. 
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:52:16 PM EDT
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I heard several horror stories about these, from electrical gremlins, to self immolating brake pads.... http://policecararchives.org/idaho/payette_images/cnpca15722-vi.jpg Only thing great about those was the legroom. Everything else? Not so much. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:52:59 PM EDT
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Not only are those bad police cars they're a symptom. ...the people in government are stealing too much money from people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not only are those bad police cars they're a symptom. ...the people in government are stealing too much money from people. LOL |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 2:55:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:00:40 PM EDT
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Not everybody . First dept. I worked for I got an 89 Diplomat . Best Patrol Car I ever had. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shilled? Hell, we are buying more because they have worked so well for us... Well good luck to you then. Are you a cop? No one in my area, second most populous area in Pennsylvania with several of the largest PDs in the state has anything good to say about them I am, and our agency is one of several in our state that has gone to them, and likes them. Different strokes and all that, I suppose. Anything would be better than a Charger. 88 Diplomat, first patrol car, what a POS...92 Caprice was my favorite.. Well we can at least agree on how shitty Dodges are 
Not everybody . First dept. I worked for I got an 89 Diplomat . Best Patrol Car I ever had. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:02:21 PM EDT
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People would call 911 as there was a fake cop car trying to pull them over. There was even one woman that wouldn't pull over until a black and white from another jurisdiction pulled up. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:02:41 PM EDT
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Of ones I've patrolled in?
Grand Fury, no contest. I was in one for my very first felony pursuit. Damn near died when I stepped on the very overheated brakes and NOTHING happened. Took almost two miles to stop. I was chasing a Dodge Aspen at the time.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:05:44 PM EDT
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Not everybody . First dept. I worked for I got an 89 Diplomat . Best Patrol Car I ever had. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shilled? Hell, we are buying more because they have worked so well for us... Well good luck to you then. Are you a cop? No one in my area, second most populous area in Pennsylvania with several of the largest PDs in the state has anything good to say about them I am, and our agency is one of several in our state that has gone to them, and likes them. Different strokes and all that, I suppose. Anything would be better than a Charger. 88 Diplomat, first patrol car, what a POS...92 Caprice was my favorite.. Well we can at least agree on how shitty Dodges are
Not everybody . First dept. I worked for I got an 89 Diplomat . Best Patrol Car I ever had. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:14:18 PM EDT
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The way our tablets are mounted you have to be a damn contortionist to hit the trunk release or climate controls too Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Until you have to slam on the brakes send then hammer the gas. Then...nothing but high RPMs and nothing to show for it. The parts in bold are very true. I've got one of the new Taurus patrol cars. Very comfortable to drive. Very fast. Handles great. Fantastic in snow. The interior and instrument lights are a "bedazzling" spectacle of retarded monkey-shinery. I've got shit covered with electrical tape, cardboard and black paint, just so I can use the damn thing at night for it's "intended" purpose as a patrol car. The way our tablets are mounted you have to be a damn contortionist to hit the trunk release or climate controls too The brake slam / gas hammer / nothing but high revs is a problem. The first time I did it, I almost wrote it up thinking that something was broken. We've also had a problem where if you make a fast turnaround wherein you brake, throw it in reverse, and then hammer the gas, the fucking things have a good chance of stalling. I've read elsewhere that the transmission is being blamed for that. On the plus side, they're much superior to the CVPI in snow. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:14:19 PM EDT
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My former ride I was issued as a new Detective:
I give you the 1998 Ford Taurus. Oh, and I got it in 2004. And the Detective who took my place is still driving it............................ 
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:16:19 PM EDT
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PPD used to have Dodge Omnis in the 6th & 9th Districts because they would fit on the sidewalks around City Hall!
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:22:10 PM EDT
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City of Condon, OR had cars just like this in the late 70's. http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/ranger721/4953205D-8FCA-43AF-A492-76167E160A90.jpg They had to one up Fossil
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:25:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:35:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol Hint: driver sits in what we consider passenger side in the UK. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02931/Ariel_Atom_FAST_PO_2931364b.jpg Fast, but single seat and no trunk. Also no driver lol... Motion Blur Effect to Maximum Derp! Lol Hint: driver sits in what we consider passenger side in the UK.  a friend has one and yer two seats |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 3:42:04 PM EDT
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Wasn't the Fairmont the basis of the Fox body Mustang?
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Posted: 3/5/2015 4:08:39 PM EDT
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Well we can at least agree on how shitty Dodges are
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I am, and our agency is one of several in our state that has gone to them, and likes them. Different strokes and all that, I suppose. Anything would be better than a Charger. Well we can at least agree on how shitty Dodges are
My AWD Charger is the best I've ever had (so far). Its quick, it handles like a dream, its comfortable, and even the high beam indicator dims down at night with the rest of the dash lights. I think its more comfortable than the Explorers. Also, the 2014.5+ Chargers have massive brakes compared for former years so I'm hoping they will last longer. We've had just as much downtime (if not more) with the Tauruses (Tauri?) than with the Dodges. While the Dodges are in for brakes, the Fords are in for recalls. Actual mechanical issues have been about the same for both. The non-ecoboost Explorers are just being issued here so down time is yet to be determined but about half the guys with the Explorers are wishing they got AWD Chargers instead. My list for the worst cars during my lifetime: -Ford Taurus (new and old) (reliability on the new ones has been average but the design is horrible) -Late 90's and early 2000's Chevy Impala (if you think the new ones are bad, you should've had one of those pieces) -Dodge Intrepid (proactive patrol guys were averaging 3,000 miles per set of brake pads) |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We had Chevy Lumina's at Luke AFB. Those were shit too. Anything Dodge I ever drove in the service were all shit. Cemented my hatred for all things Dodge. http://policecararchives.org/DoD/DoD_images/cnpca0196-vi.jpg  , thanked the guys who totaled her while I was off. Got a new CV to replace her.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:26:08 PM EDT
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Horrible fuel mileage, no truck space.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:32:20 PM EDT
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As far as regularly used cars go I'd have to say the old Ford Taurus tops my list of shitty police cars. http://images14.fotki.com/v699/photos/4/49373/4401339/cnpca9498-vi.jpg My brother refers to the Ford Taurus as the "Turd Forest." |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:33:45 PM EDT
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Zastava 101- Yugo with a trunk. You cant beat that |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 8:51:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My former ride I was issued as a new Detective: I give you the 1998 Ford Taurus. Oh, and I got it in 2004. And the Detective who took my place is still driving it............................ http://imganuncios.mitula.net/1998_ford_taurus_4dr_sdn_lx_silver_99316417579529715.jpg My issue ride when I went to CID in 04 was about a 90 CV, forrest green, dubbed the green lizzard. I even had an old dash mounted blue light. As bad as the car was, it was roomy and reliable. We just got rid of it and it's powder blue brother a couple of years ago.Looked a lot like this.  |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 10:18:27 PM EDT
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I saw an AF SP 1983 Gran Fury t-bone a CNDer driving a Mini Cooper trying to make it to the first C-5 that landed at RAF Greenham-Common. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1980's series Chysler K Car. We had a shit ton of them when I was in the AF Security Police (I believe the Army MP's got some too). 4 cylinder engines . We were told that Chrysler had to give the DOD and Government good prices on them in return for the Chrysler bail out with Iacocca. K cars were seen being used by a lot of Military and Federal agencies.First thing I searched for http://s3.amazonaws.com/airforcephotos.togetherweserved.com/257394_med.jpg Edit: better picture I saw an AF SP 1983 Gran Fury t-bone a CNDer driving a Mini Cooper trying to make it to the first C-5 that landed at RAF Greenham-Common. Serious qeustion What's a CNDer? |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 10:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI knew several guys working metro that loved them. Said they were like a go cart for working city traffic. I do know pointing a radar gun at the ac vents would give you 33/55/77mph depending on the fan switch setting.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 10:50:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHey, they needed an appropriate vehicle to bust kids having keggers on the grassy hill in front of the high school. |
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Posted: 3/5/2015 10:56:30 PM EDT
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We had one looked just about the same year model, Det. Sgt. in charge of the ETs drove it. My issue ride when I went to CID in 04 was about a 90 CV, forrest green, dubbed the green lizzard. I even had an old dash mounted blue light. As bad as the car was, it was roomy and reliable. We just got rid of it and it's powder blue brother a couple of years ago.
Looked a lot like this. http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/m4pointman/1990_Ford_Crown_Victoria_zpsbs1k3ke7.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My former ride I was issued as a new Detective: I give you the 1998 Ford Taurus. Oh, and I got it in 2004. And the Detective who took my place is still driving it............................ http://imganuncios.mitula.net/1998_ford_taurus_4dr_sdn_lx_silver_99316417579529715.jpg My issue ride when I went to CID in 04 was about a 90 CV, forrest green, dubbed the green lizzard. I even had an old dash mounted blue light. As bad as the car was, it was roomy and reliable. We just got rid of it and it's powder blue brother a couple of years ago.
Looked a lot like this. http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/m4pointman/1990_Ford_Crown_Victoria_zpsbs1k3ke7.jpg Nice! Almost Blue Brothers quality.
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Posted: 3/5/2015 11:53:07 PM EDT
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Serious qeustion What's a CNDer? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1980's series Chysler K Car. We had a shit ton of them when I was in the AF Security Police (I believe the Army MP's got some too). 4 cylinder engines . We were told that Chrysler had to give the DOD and Government good prices on them in return for the Chrysler bail out with Iacocca. K cars were seen being used by a lot of Military and Federal agencies.First thing I searched for http://s3.amazonaws.com/airforcephotos.togetherweserved.com/257394_med.jpg Edit: better picture I saw an AF SP 1983 Gran Fury t-bone a CNDer driving a Mini Cooper trying to make it to the first C-5 that landed at RAF Greenham-Common. Serious qeustion What's a CNDer? Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Look up GLCM, Raf Greenham-Common, CND, oh, and Peace Women..........
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Posted: 3/5/2015 11:58:13 PM EDT
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My town had a le car in the 70s
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Posted: 3/6/2015 12:04:02 AM EDT
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As much as I hate the "engine going into limp-mode constantly, life of the front end components measured in days, random parts falling off the car even when not in hard use" piece of shit dodge chargers, I miss how freaking fast they are.
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Posted: 3/6/2015 12:09:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryLULZ my hometown , first time I ever got pulled over it was a Taurus just like that pic is in the back lot of the old police station here |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 12:14:52 AM EDT
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The brake slam / gas hammer / nothing but high revs is a problem. The first time I did it, I almost wrote it up thinking that something was broken. We've also had a problem where if you make a fast turnaround wherein you brake, throw it in reverse, and then hammer the gas, the fucking things have a good chance of stalling. I've read elsewhere that the transmission is being blamed for that. On the plus side, they're much superior to the CVPI in snow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Until you have to slam on the brakes send then hammer the gas. Then...nothing but high RPMs and nothing to show for it. The parts in bold are very true. I've got one of the new Taurus patrol cars. Very comfortable to drive. Very fast. Handles great. Fantastic in snow. The interior and instrument lights are a "bedazzling" spectacle of retarded monkey-shinery. I've got shit covered with electrical tape, cardboard and black paint, just so I can use the damn thing at night for it's "intended" purpose as a patrol car. The way our tablets are mounted you have to be a damn contortionist to hit the trunk release or climate controls too The brake slam / gas hammer / nothing but high revs is a problem. The first time I did it, I almost wrote it up thinking that something was broken. We've also had a problem where if you make a fast turnaround wherein you brake, throw it in reverse, and then hammer the gas, the fucking things have a good chance of stalling. I've read elsewhere that the transmission is being blamed for that. On the plus side, they're much superior to the CVPI in snow. Mines did the stall out thing too. Real helpful in a pursuit 
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Posted: 3/6/2015 12:15:25 AM EDT
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Ford Fairmont. Oh it was awful. That's a FOX platform same as a Mustang. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 12:29:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 1975 - 1976 350 CID Chevy Nova Kicked serious ass ! Best.Police.Car.Ever. Loved that car. Worst you say ? 1982 Plymouth Volare with a "warmed over" 318 CID engine. That POS couldn't catch a paperboy on a bicycle. http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag16/dvuswaz/4682922851_b802ed5078_zpsvocbyamx.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: A 1975 - 1976 350 CID Chevy Nova Kicked serious ass ! Best.Police.Car.Ever. Loved that car. Worst you say ? 1982 Plymouth Volare with a "warmed over" 318 CID engine. That POS couldn't catch a paperboy on a bicycle. http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag16/dvuswaz/4682922851_b802ed5078_zpsvocbyamx.jpg We had the Dodge Diplomat. Other than being slow, ability to start brush fires with the exhaust system, they wandered all over the road. Death traps! |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 5:31:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: http://www.theinfantshome.org.au/site/assets/files/1256/penguin_with_cars.jpg Wow your choice of a minivan with steel wheels or some kind of Subaru. Top that! (scooters ridden by meter maids do not count) I dont know about the worst but I remember some interesting cars after Operation Hermes |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 5:59:37 AM EDT
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Prius police car http://www.midwestenergynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/prius-police-car.jpg Put a cage in it and you can't fit in it. Not a police car, meter maid car. When I was in Staten Island a few weeks back I saw a Toyota hybrid NYPD car. It wasn't a meter maid as the two cops that it belonged to had guns badges and everything. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 6:10:39 AM EDT
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Taurus...
 
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Posted: 3/6/2015 6:46:38 AM EDT
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Worst for who? The officer or speeder. I remember this Saleen Mustang. Rumor had it that it was also geared really low and would top out at only 110, but get there reeealy fast!
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Posted: 3/6/2015 7:00:12 AM EDT
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I remember reading about the mid to late 70's Pontiacs that a lot of the county sheriffs departments were using and what dogs they were. Car Craft (or may Hot Rod) magazine said those things would only to about 95 or 96 mph top end. Too heavy, not enough horsepower and handled like a brick.
On the other hand, we had the big Dodge Coronets with the 440 and the air cleaner that was so big it almost covered the top of the engine. I remember rolling down I64 with the speedometer setting on 130 mph and that big 440 was just humming along like it was only doing 60. I remember smacking the pedal down one night to go after a guy and in a very few seconds heard a funny noise I hadn't heard before. I looked at the speedometer and it was on 62 mph. I let up on the gas pedal just a bit and it went to 2nd gear and the noise went away. I caught the guy about a mile down the road. I headed back to the office, popped the hood and it was quart low on oil. I'd never heard the valves rattle before but after I put that quart of oil in it and tried it again - no valve rattle. The darn thing didn't have a tachometer in it so I have no clue what rpm it was at when running 62 mph in 1st gear. The speedometer went to 180 but I never had it above 130. Awesome car, for a 4 door. |
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Posted: 3/6/2015 8:25:00 PM EDT
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Worst for who? The officer or speeder. I remember this Saleen Mustang. Rumor had it that it was also geared really low and would top out at only 110, but get there reeealy fast! http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/tonylop33/Mustang/Saleen_Cop_Car.jpg I say a state trooper in a V8 Mustang a few days ago. All blacked out unmarked. |
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