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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:45:01 AM EDT
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Has anyone been running one of these with a polymer lower? On the one hand I was thinking this might be a great place to use up a poly lower I might foolishly have purchased. On the other hand with all the recoil reports, maybe that's just a quicker way to failure… |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:48:03 AM EDT
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Can anyone with either the F5 or the X-Products launcher measure the inside diameter of the tube for me? ~2.62" give or take a few thousandths for cerakote thickness |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:53:33 AM EDT
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Can anyone with either the F5 or the X-Products launcher measure the inside diameter of the tube for me? 
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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:57:54 AM EDT
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Quote History~2.62" give or take a few thousandths for cerakote thickness Standard 12oz soda/beer can, about 2.6" Standard tennis ball, between 2.575" and 2.7" (but squishable, obviously) M18 and M8 smokes, 2.5" without the spoon Lacrosse ball, 2.5" Nerf makes all sorts of 2.5" stuff |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 11:03:53 AM EDT
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I want one or 5 of these now.
Do the blanks put out enough burn to light a fuse like the lifting charge in a 37mm round? |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 11:31:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryStandard 12oz soda/beer can, about 2.6"
Standard tennis ball, between 2.575" and 2.7" (but squishable, obviously) M18 and M8 smokes, 2.5" without the spoon Lacrosse ball, 2.5" Nerf makes all sorts of 2.5" stuff |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:18:12 PM EDT
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Got mine yesterday...blanks not here yet.
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:21:22 PM EDT
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Got mine yesterday...blanks not here yet.
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:23:02 PM EDT
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Pics?
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:32:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't need blanks to post pics! 
But now Johnny made me want to rattle-can it. Will the spray paint can fit in it? Hmmmm... |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:38:33 PM EDT
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/1uf2fan38b2troo/canlauncher.jpg?raw=1 But now Johnny made me want to rattle-can it. Will the spray paint can fit in it? Hmmmm... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You don't need blanks to post pics! But now Johnny made me want to rattle-can it. Will the spray paint can fit in it? Hmmmm... |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1uf2fan38b2troo/canlauncher.jpg?raw=1 But now Johnny made me want to rattle-can it. Will the spray paint can fit in it? Hmmmm...
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Posted: 7/11/2018 12:55:36 PM EDT
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that particular Can Cannon is expensive. LWRCi ultra compact stock kit, G SSA-E, BCM mod 4, some gucci bolt that's Ni-Boron coated
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:05:44 PM EDT
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If for some reason something got lodged in the barrel, would the barrel KB?
Could be bad for your front hand regardless of where you hold it... |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:25:57 PM EDT
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M18s go about 2/3 the distance that standard 12oz soda cans go. M8s weigh even more, and seem to only go about half as far. That's one of the reasons I've not put sights on mine- everything I shoot has a significantly different trajectory. I usually just use a tall tree trunk as the aiming point, so as long as my windage is good I'll hit somewhere on it and get the desired effect. I did once hit a tree trunk right over a cadet squad patrol base with a Sam's Club grape soda can, showering them with sticky purple nastiness. It was awesome.  |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:30:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAre you using a wad of some sort when launching the M18's? |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:38:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:40:40 PM EDT
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I use the cheap Walmart tennis balls as the wad for almost everything non, uh, standard. 
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got that from F5? The upper on mine has the location for the forward assist, but no forward assist installed. |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGood to know that tennis balls can be used as wads. Previously in this thread, someone mentioned that because the tennis balls will compress, having it behind something heavy may cause it to really stick in the barrel. I was afraid to try it but since you've done it and are here posting, I'm not worried. |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 1:49:24 PM EDT
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Same here. I'm considering putting one in but don't know it it's really necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You got that from F5? The upper on mine has the location for the forward assist, but no forward assist installed. https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/forward-assist-parts/ar-15-m16-forward-assist-plug-prod79433.aspx or https://motorcity-tactical-works.myshopify.com/products/ar-forward-assist-plug-red?variant=10964420545 
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Posted: 7/11/2018 2:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got that from F5? The upper on mine has the location for the forward assist, but no forward assist installed. |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 3:19:10 PM EDT
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Was someone trying to arrange a group buy? I know there will be a killer deal after I order. Lol
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Posted: 7/11/2018 3:34:37 PM EDT
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Was someone trying to arrange a group buy? I know there will be a killer deal after I order. Lol GA HTF is the best HTF! |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 4:26:42 PM EDT
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I should add that the M116 grenade simulator is only 1.6" wide, so it needs a wad of some kind behind it. Same for the M115 whistling artillery simulator... I once won a neighborhood 4th of July fireworks competition by tossing a single arty simulator into the cul de sac. I got a bit nervous when it bounced and landed under a car. Thankfully, it didn't do anything to it. |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 5:42:29 PM EDT
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So what is the OAL of the short tube vs long tube??? How much of a difference are we talking? Quote fail. Looking for barrel lengths shorty vs regular Thanks |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:37:37 PM EDT
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Has anyone been running one of these with a polymer lower? On the one hand I was thinking this might be a great place to use up a poly lower I might foolishly have purchased. On the other hand with all the recoil reports, maybe that's just a quicker way to failure… |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 10:41:06 PM EDT
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I put mine on a New Frontier Armory poly lower and snagged the charging handle and BCG from a cheap PSA upper I got. The polymer lower seems to work fine and if it fails I'm not too concerned. Put around 25 different items downrange with it. Damn it's fun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone been running one of these with a polymer lower? On the one hand I was thinking this might be a great place to use up a poly lower I might foolishly have purchased. On the other hand with all the recoil reports, maybe that's just a quicker way to failure… |
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Posted: 7/11/2018 11:51:36 PM EDT
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I ordered from F5 on June 29th, they created a Fedex shipping number July 2nd, but it hasn't been handed off to Fedex and I haven't heard anything else. Is this roughly what other people experienced or am I outside the norms here?
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:19:56 AM EDT
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I ordered from F5 on June 29th, they created a Fedex shipping number July 2nd, but it hasn't been handed off to Fedex and I haven't heard anything else. Is this roughly what other people experienced or am I outside the norms here? |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 1:32:31 AM EDT
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This thread probably cleaned them out Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I ordered from F5 on June 29th, they created a Fedex shipping number July 2nd, but it hasn't been handed off to Fedex and I haven't heard anything else. Is this roughly what other people experienced or am I outside the norms here? My charging handle and BCA BCG arrived from PA today, as did the PSA MOE lower build kit I'm planning to use to finish out the lower for this build. Now, I'm just waiting on my can cannon and blanks. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:19:53 AM EDT
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What length is optimal dammit!!
I want to pull the trigger but shorty or long? I know it’s a 2” difference but since I don’t know either length that’s not so helpful |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 5:40:18 AM EDT
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What length is optimal dammit!! I want to pull the trigger but shorty or long? I know it’s a 2” difference but since I don’t know either length that’s not so helpful Also— a longer barrel leaves room for more in bore payload without it sticking out. I’ll measure mine when they get here if someone else doesn’t first. I got my bcg’s and charging handles yesterday. No idea when the launchers will come. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 9:36:46 AM EDT
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The barrel length has no effect on range at all. The pressure would be so low, barrel length would be irrelevant. I only ordered the longer barrel for longer payload capacity; more tennis balls, more mini cans, 16oz Tall Boys won’t stick out, etc.
I have a feeling the Coors and Miller screw-top pint cans are going to be awesome for sending, uhh... non-standard payloads downrange. Given the lid-end is swaged down and conical, it should be able to take more pressure without rupturing. Meaning fewer breakages and/or the ability to use hotter blanks (actually getting you more range). I don’t know... it all depends on whether failures are due to the sidewall rupturing or the pressure is crushing the rear end.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 9:41:45 AM EDT
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The barrel length has no effect on range at all. The pressure would be so low, barrel length would be irrelevant. I only ordered the longer barrel for longer payload capacity; more tennis balls, more mini cans, 16oz Tall Boys won’t stick out, etc. I have a feeling the Coors and Miller screw-top pint cans are going to be awesome for sending, uhh... non-standard payloads downrange. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/132797/17220928-FB52-43ED-87BE-5800FA530840-605184.JPG 
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Posted: 7/12/2018 9:43:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. I sent the wife out for another 15 pack this morning.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 10:16:39 AM EDT
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Check this out!
Blanks for Can Launhers M200 spec blanks Gilf ball launching blanks (Stronger) Even Stronger golf ball blanks Full power M195 “grenade” launching blanks http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/Golf-Ball-Can-launching-Inert-Grenade-Launching_c_15.html If you were launching solid objects (balls, ice/cement/chalk filled cans, etc...) I wonder how powerful of a blank the F5 upper can fire without the barrel exploding. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 10:19:46 AM EDT
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Got mine yesterday...blanks not here yet.
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Posted: 7/12/2018 10:29:09 AM EDT
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Check this out! Blanks for Can Launhers M200 spec blanks Gilf ball launching blanks (Stronger) Even Stronger golf ball blanks Full power M195 “grenade” launching blanks http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/Golf-Ball-Can-launching-Inert-Grenade-Launching_c_15.html |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 10:57:06 AM EDT
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No blanks til tuesday... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got mine yesterday...blanks not here yet. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:15:58 AM EDT
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Got .223 dies and pistol powder? Not a big deal to make your own to try it. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:16:24 AM EDT
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Why not? Are we talking ruptured cans or blowing the whole thing up?
The barrel stub and extension should be able to handle even the full pressure m195 just fine. although I don’t know about the alumni barrel shroud... 
Maybe I should make a launcher shroud/tube out of titanium... Can someone measure the ID of their launch tube? I’m guessing it’s about 2.650” as that’s a fairly standard stock size (2.750” OD x 0.050” wall) and aluminum can spec is 2.602 +/- 0.007 inches. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:24:04 AM EDT
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Why not? Are we talking ruptured cans or blowing the whole thing up? The barrel stub and extension should be able to handle even the full pressure m195 just fine. although I don’t know about the alumni barrel shroud...
Maybe I should make a launcher shroud/tube out of titanium... Can someone measure the ID of their launch tube? I’m guessing it’s about 2.650” as that’s a fairly standard stock size (2.750” OD x 0.050” wall) and aluminum can spec is 2.602 +/- 0.007 inches. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:49:13 AM EDT
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Someone already measured their tube and posted in this thread |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 11:58:17 AM EDT
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Just the diameter so far. No one has measured the LENGTH of the tubes, both long and short Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Someone already measured their tube and posted in this thread
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:00:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: When I'll go home for lunch I'll measure it, someone IMd me yesterday but I forgot all about it |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:01:21 PM EDT
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Hopefully she brings back some 2-cycle gas, styrofoam and cannon fuse too. |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just the diameter so far. No one has measured the LENGTH of the tubes, both long and short  Attached File Attached File9.25” |
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Posted: 7/12/2018 12:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh FFS - you guys are so focused on length!!! This is the “normal” one from the F5 website (“short”?): https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/D7E13937-A20C-4A1F-8B4C-6997F97827DE-605284.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/328408/98472F3B-589A-42C7-9446-C5B0000B997F-605285.JPG 9.25”  Attached File |
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