"They will do nothing to stop this train wreck."


I think they have INTENTIONALLY ENGINEERED this train wreck as a one of many strategies to reach their political goal of absolute control of our country.

They are escalating the train wreck as fast as they can get away with, constrained so that most can't understand what their REAL intentions are and the ultimate outcome. Just look at the stock market absurdity.

If you have evidence to the contrary, please share.

What we are seeing is an 'economic/fiscal' version of Cloward Piven strategy.

You sir I believe are correct.  Love him or hate him Glenn Beck spoke of this several years ago.

It was stored in France, UK and the US because of the threat of Soviet invasion.

Yep, the Socialists know most folks aren't able to let their minds wrap around what they are pulling off because it's too scary to come to terms with.

So most folks' 'Normalcy Bias' works in the favor of the people who are trying to rule them and steal their country.

That's why you see very little discussion ---and ackshully, plain old avoidance, of this likely reality here.

All the Big Boy gun fans are too scared for their families and themselves to consider and discuss it.

They prefer to be "Ostraches with GUNZ" and keep their heads buried in whatever is handy at the moment, whenever they might have to face reality.

Watch! If the past foretells the future, these couple posts will all be ignored. Big Boys indeed!

Yep.

One of the key pieces remaining is disarming the citizens.

Yes.

And fully infiltrating the .mil and LE. Most other institutions have already fallen.



The Leftists [Demos] complete their missions and we snooze and fall prey to their Useful Idiots' propaganda BS on these forums, especially around election times.

I don't want to hear any whining when they finally pass legislation banning our stuff.



There's a cost to being addicted to the Flat Screen Propaganda Machine, and sleeping ------while our country is stolen right from under our noses.

Something our external enemies never could do.



It makes no sense to constantly complain about the Trillion dollar deficits that are being used to FUND OUR DESTRUCTION ---WITHOUT making some effort to try to figger out what the hell their motives are.

I thought some of you guys might be able to use this.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/shadow-rehypothecation-infinte-leverage-and-why-breaking-tyrrany-ignorance-only-solution

Great discussion.  But the whole economic system isn't going to blow up BECAUSE of Wall Street.  They will be involved, that much is certain.  But the die is already cast.  Those who look to Wall Street as the cause of our pending economic downfall, is like looking at only the part of the icegerg that sticks up above the waterline.  Our biggest dangers are below the surface and are as follows:

1, Loss of the US Dollar as the world reserve currency, due to devaluation / deflation of the dollar due to massive printing of currency in QE 1, 2, 3, etc... etc....     Instantly, our cost of living in the US will increase because of it.  

2. As the dollar loses value, it buys less.  Massive inflation begins.

3. Interest rates which have been kept artifically low for years MUST increase in response.  As the interest rates increase, the interest payments on our burgeoning government debt go through the roof.  Currently, interest payments on our national debt are about .40 cents of every dollar of tax revenue taken in each year.  This is at our current interest rates of between 1% - 2%.  (This is why the rates are being kept low)  BUT, what are the interest payments going to look like when the interest rates hit 4%, 6%, 10% or beyond?  Pretty soon, there's a hard choice to be made.  

A.  Don't pay the increased interest, the USA defaults, and the system crashes.  (With a lot of pissed off creditors looking for payback.)
B.  If the US Government does decide to pay the increased interest, there's no money left to pay all the entitlements.  No Social Security checks, no Medicare payments, no Medicaid payouts to the states, no Social Security Disability checks, no Food Stamp payments to the states, etc.. etc...    

In either case, with no money, and no prospect of any money coming, and no food, or water, or electricity....   Civil unrest follows.    

BUT!!!   In the past, ask yourself what the BEST solution was, to get the USA out of financial trouble or to at least to delay it??   Look at history.  The answer is: WAR.  Don't think for a moment that this won't be used as an option to delay the inevitible.

So yes...  Wall Street is corrupt in many ways.  But guess what??  Some things in life aren't fair.  You want something?  Then go out and earn it.  I and the rest of society owe you nothing. The world owes you nothing.  Yet I fear that the youth of today and coming generations will continue to look through the prism of entitlement - believing that they are entitled to take from the sweat of someone elses brow.  

The US and World economic system is going down folks!!  It's going down hard.  Millions, if not hundreds of millions of people are going to die in the reset.  But hey!!!  Keep your heads comfortably in the nice, warm, sand.  Cause it can't possibly happen here in the USA.      

While this is old news, it is true, most people simply have no idea how their banking and monetary systems work. These systems have become too complex.  But like all system which become complex, they eventually undergo "complexity collapse" and return to the mean.    













 

What choice do people have? We are all in a big monopoly game now. The people behind the scenes print the money and buy up real wealth with it, while we take their worthless paper in return. We are content so long as we are entertained. Bread and circuses. I think this can keep going for a while. But I think something will happen after 20 trillion. The debt will be where a trillion dollars a year is due, just in interest. Some kind of reset will have to take place. That's when things will get interesting. By then I'm sure they hope to have us all disarmed. We all know this push for gun control isn't about the children.

Oh, we are past the tipping point on debt but, barring a "Black Swan" event, of course, it can continue for some time yet.


















 

On a similar note, website linked to by Drudge this AM...

Our leader speaks-  ...texted from church...

"“I’m honored and grateful that we have a chance to finish what we started. Our work begins today. Let’s go. -bo”"

Prepare the lube.....

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"Oh, we are past the tipping point on debt but, barring a "Black Swan" event, of course, it can continue for some time yet."


Yes, I tend to agree. Except the Black Swan will be at an optimum time for them and at their approximate choosing.

In order to get the best effect toward engineering our destruction, and their theft of our country.

I look at it two ways, the collapse plays out naturally... unlikely,

Or it's triggered to suit the advantage of the Left, maybe even, depending on their assessment of their strength or weakness, maybe even before O leaves office, if they feel the need to move things more quickly to consolidate their---

"Opportunity to finish what we've started". [See post above]  

Thank you for the insight.

We here in the USA will continue to muddle along, and the poor will continue to scrape by on transfer payments. It is a severe career-ender for any politician not from a red red state to advocate austerity. So this foolishness will continue, and ships loaded with ChinaMart goods will continue to unload at Long Beach, until the folks receiving freshly-printed greenbacks in return for those goods get sick of our shit and walk away. It won't happen all at once (you could argue it's already happening), but those net exporter countries will eventually force us to change. It might be peaceful, it might not.

History shows that something usually happens as a trigger event. We can not just slowly descend into depression, we will descend slowly until a future event and then we go over head first.

I remember playing monopoly when I was a kid.  The end of some very long games played out this way. The obvious "ultimate winner" tended to want to prolong the game.  He, or she, would "wheel-n-deal" taking assets and partial payments which would otherwise be killing financial blows.  Sometimes this came in the form of "mercy" or "charity" to a player in the game.  But it was never about "charity" or "mercy" to the other player, it was merely to keep the game going for the winner.  Because once the game ended, it was over...  

So are we the winners or losers? or both?

Could you please explain the part in red?

zeekh,

The endgame of the current financial paradigm is simple- and, brutal.

Those who own and/or operate the present global financial order will utilise whatever viability its' monetary system retains to establish ownership and control over as great a preponderance of the world's real assets as possible: T$PTB will own almost all the assets of actual wealth, while most of the rest of us will be left holding worthless cash in our bank accounts-

Our pensions, 401ks and investment portfolios will be stuffed full of evaporated virtual wealth.

I found Obama's speech disturbing. He is a "true believer", I've never heard a more atypical inauguration speech.  What it lacked in unifying poetry, it certainly made up for with bravado manifesto.  






































































 

The Fed Res creates "dollars" by one keystroke on the computer.  It's created digitally and there's no actual need to print it nor is there a corresponding requirement that more goods are produced.  We've seen it done four times since 2008 and the Fed calls it quantitative easing.  With these digital dollars which literally costs them nothing, they have been buying up America via bad mortgages no one else will touch.  They're also buying the treasuries that no foreign investor or nation will touch.  In a few years they can own most of America and will not have paid anything tangible for it either.

China, Russia, Brasil and other nations are aware of it.  When the dollar is devalued, it causes inflation overseas.   Why ?  Because the dollar is still the world's reserve currency (but not much longer).  Nation's must buy dollars to buy wheat.  When it costs more dollars, they'll must pay more of their dinars, rupees, yuan, euros, etc to get that same bushel of wheat. The Arab Spring was a reaction to currency devaluation.  It is only a matter of when before some other currency becomes the new reserve currency of the world.  That's why China accumulated over 1,000 tons of gold last year alone.  The distrust of the Fed is why Chavez got his gold back and why the Bundesbank asked for theirs too.  

Withdraw your consent.  The dollar will be like the game Old Maid and you don't want to be left holding the Old Maid.  Right now there's a controlled exit from it.    Collect your marbles and go home.  Dump your stocks, mutual funds, IRAs, bank accounts and any other dollar denominated assets and put in into ABCDs (anything Ber Nank Can't Destroy).  Beans, boolits and bullion.

Totally in agreement.

...and WE think Slavery ended?


You're still a 'Slave' if an individual depends on the Federal Government for food, shelter, healthcare & some pocket-money.


If you let Slaves Vote, the 'Master' will always win, and this Federal Government 'Master' doesn't discriminate.


What about Social Security, Medicare, certain Federal Employment





WE have 'Traitors' that are making Citizen-Slaves who love the 'Freedom' provided by the Political Pimps...their 'Master'





Historically, the formula for a Nation's destruction, especially when a Super-Majority fails to see it coming.





Again, When does Presumed Incompetence become a Treasonous Act?





WE have 'Representation' who continue to prove they don't live by, understand or believe in the Constitution, and 'WE' somehow think they will return US to Constitutional Principles


Take away OUR Liberties;


Refine Law-Abiding Citizens into Criminals/Terrorist;


Steal OUR Wealth;


Bail-Out a Select few & let the rest go Bankrupt...This describes Enemies of the State, not Competent Leaders


Are they really this Stupid?





Why can't that be the Message voiced by an Opposing Party?


Right, I forgot, Abortion Rights & Gay Marriage has 'morally' destroyed OUR Nation





We are still breathing...Life is Good




 
 

Wow, folks are finally figgering this out........

What's scary is that it took this long.


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But do they care enough to do anything about it?

That is a scary and accurate analogy.

 

Okay, the chess pieces are all laid our before us.   Let's look at a few possible "end game" scenarios.  I'll start us off...


 

Agree.  In ancient Rome one man urged his property manager to buy ANYTHING as the money was being debased.   However, not everything tangible will retain any value especially when foodstuff is scarce.  In Anna Eisenmenger's book, Blockade, about the post Armistice hyper inflationary state in Austria, one woman trade her grand piano for a bar of flour.  Eisenmenger herself traded her deceased father's gold watch chain for four bags of potatoes.  

Lesson:  food is number one.  Can't eat the shiny stuff (boolits or metal) but the former is more useful for defending the latter and any food.  

Farmers made out well if their farms weren't raided by city dwellers who descended like locusts on rural farms.

I now believe people will be amazed at how fast the collapse progresses once it starts.  

 
















































 

I timed the doom and gloom horribly.  I moved a lot of my retirement and mutual funds to the money market when the stock market was bout 2000 points less than it is now.  Fucking awesome.  I'm sure it will go down, but I lost about 20% growth for trying to time the market.  I think that is the last time I will ever do that.

"I now believe people will be amazed at how fast the collapse progresses once it starts. "

"Once the thaw gets underway I believe governments will conceal the fact as long as possible."


It HAS been concealed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 'thaw' has been underway for 2 decades+   ---and a few folks HAVE recognized the reality of it.

Most haven't. All you have to do is go back to the Part One of this topic and read forward.

It's an eye opener how exceptionally naive and gullible we are.


Details, details....

I agree, as the 'thaw' gains more WIDESPREAD RECOGNIZATION, what we will see,

...say regarding foodstuffs flying off the shelves...

Will be nothing less than EPIC!


But these examples are EFFECTS...

Right now we need to be as equally concerned with WHO AND WHY have engineered, what we are about to see the full REALITY of.

Soooo, you have been surprised that the market would be RIGGED to stay bouyant to keep us Sheeple complacent until the time is right for us to be sheared???



Instead of following an honest 'natural' path of market force economic supply and demand, etc????  

Well, an important thing to learn is, it's usually all good til it ain't.  

Don't kick you're financial decisions until the Fat Lady has sung.

A thought, I wonder if O is planning on WRAPPING UP the extensive changes to our country he began in his first term?

Before the 2nd term has expired...

I'd be impressed if anyone cared enough to pass a fucking budget.

I suspect a loose translation would be "The British are coming, the British are coming".

Why would they? Then they would lose their slight of hand technique that is keeping a lot of the focus off of the real issues.

Would it make a practical difference considering it would be practically meaningless?

This, the Left is expert at obfuscation and we fall for it every time.

Remember, they were all "British" at that time.  What was announced  was "The regulars are coming, the regulars are coming".  Yelling "...the British are coming" would be like running through your own neighborhood and yelling "...the Americans are coming...".  

 

Maybe I'm getting your intent wrong, but I think you're referring to a quote from Claire Wolfe.  It goes,

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." – 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Great book I highly recommend it.