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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:43:14 PM EST
Say, Brownells, PSA or someone wanted to start mass production of one old, obscure or no longer in production firearm, and gave you the power to pick which one it would be, what would you pick?
You get to pick the original "retro" model, and can make suggestions for updates, variants or caliber options for the weapon. My pick is the Holloway Arms HAC-7.  Throwback Thursday: The Nifty Hybrid-Design HAC-7 Battle Rifle 20", 18" and 16" barrels. Updates would be M1913 rail on the upper receiver for optics mounting, and an MLok handguard. Optional calibers would be .308 based cartridges. 6.5 Creedmoor first, followed by .260 Rem and maybe 7mm-08. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:45:39 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:46:33 PM EST
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Optic ready, 10mm broom handle mouser, with detach mags
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:47:39 PM EST
[#3]
johnson rifle in 30/06
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:48:12 PM EST
[#4]
Stg 44 transferable
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:49:03 PM EST
[#5]
UK DeLisle Carbines   
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:50:33 PM EST
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Browning M1917 but in .308
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:51:38 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:52:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Optic ready, 10mm broom handle mouser, with detach mags |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:52:19 PM EST
[#9]
UC 9 / DEB 21
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:52:39 PM EST
[#10]
Frommer Stop no question
 History of WWI Primer 051: Hungarian Frommer Stop Documentary |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:52:52 PM EST
[#11]
I could use a HAC 7.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:53:47 PM EST
[#12]
The gun from Heat.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:53:47 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:54:41 PM EST
[#14]
Street Sweeper. I know they’re crap but they look cool.
 Attached FileThe super short one from South Africa Protecta Bulldog I think  Attached FileIf those don’t count for what OP is looking for I’d love to see a bunch of 8 and 4 gauge shotguns and ammo to mess around with. Because why not.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:55:12 PM EST
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Another vote for C98.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:56:27 PM EST
[#16]
Puckle gun.
With square bullets. 
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:56:50 PM EST
[#17]
Only one? But there's so many great ideas!
Krag Jorgensen rifles/barreled actions and mechanisms with stronger steel for modern cartridges, Webly Scott designs in .357 (yes I know of that one company that makes them for $10k), R51 that doesn't suck ass, The Robinson Arms M96 with all relevant conversions with actual factory support, Winchester 1895 muskets and rifles in 7.62x54R, and other shorter intermediate calibers. Merwin Hulbert. The Magpul Masada and all of its promised conversions and parts, rather than the fat, expensive pig the ACR became. Colt Monitor, this time with more caliber choices. LeMatt, cartridge loading with .327 Federal and whatever gauge would fit. The TRW Low Maintenance Rifle (LMR). |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:57:10 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:57:51 PM EST
[#19]
Red 9 Broomhandle Mauser
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:57:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Street Sweeper. I know they’re crap but they look cool. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/94F03494-627B-4091-BD64-62F3C2230EB5_jpe-2279668.JPG The super short one from South Africa Protecta Bulldog I thinkhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/186FCE7C-C125-4FCB-BC1B-128F996B62DB_jpe-2279672.JPG If those don’t count for what OP is looking for I’d love to see a bunch of 8 and 4 gauge shotguns and ammo to mess around with. Because why not. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129950/02C7A6DA-9A8C-4A4E-AAAC-77D1ED834ED3_jpe-2279678.JPG Didn't they also make those in .45-70? Or was that a covid fever dream? |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:58:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Puckle gun. With square bullets. Were the square bullets for heathens or Christians? I can never keep that straight... |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:00:45 PM EST
[#22]
9mm broomhandle Mauser and the carbines as well.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:01:16 PM EST
[#23]
HK P7 K3 .22
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:02:29 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:03:31 PM EST
[#25]
Marlin Camp 9 and 45. Not obscure, but I missed the boat the first time.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:04:41 PM EST
[#26]
Taurus Judge
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:06:23 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only one? But there's so many great ideas! Krag Jorgensen rifles/barreled actions and mechanisms with stronger steel for modern cartridges, Webly Scott designs in .357 (yes I know of that one company that makes them for $10k), R51 that doesn't suck ass, The Robinson Arms M96 with all relevant conversions with actual factory support, Winchester 1895 muskets and rifles in 7.62x54R, and other shorter intermediate calibers. Ok, ok. I guess you can pick two. I figure that's fairly reasonable for this fantasy scenario.  The Robinson M96 would be really super cool. I remember drooling over the ads for those in Shotgun News when I was a kid. Maybe a licensed copy of the Daewoo K1 or K2. Either one of those would be sweet. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:07:28 PM EST
[#28]
M1918, but make it more affordable than the OOW version.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:08:01 PM EST
[#29]
Colt revolving shotgun.....
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:08:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: johnson rifle in 30/06 Came here to post this. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:10:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: johnson rifle in 30/06 This is what I would want. Buddy bought a Johnson about 30 years ago. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:11:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were the square bullets for heathens or Christians? I can never keep that straight... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Puckle gun. With square bullets. Were the square bullets for heathens or Christians? I can never keep that straight... For the heathens.  Righteous round ones for the good Christian enemies. 
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:12:53 PM EST
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There were a few Hac 7s on gunbroker like a month ago. Left and right hand versions.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:13:30 PM EST
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Gyrojet.
Because rockets! That is all. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:14:28 PM EST
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Another vote for the FS2000, though I don't know if that counts as obscure.
A civilian Steyr ACR would be awesome too. My understanding is that the accuracy issues stemed from inconsistencies in the sabots that wouldn't be present with modern materials. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:15:29 PM EST
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KAC 300BLK SBR w/ integrated can
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:15:39 PM EST
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:16:09 PM EST
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Bren Ten.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:16:33 PM EST
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Modern lematt in
22 410 357 28 gauge 44 20 gauge |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:19:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were a few Hac 7s on gunbroker like a month ago. Left and right hand versions. I see them every so often, but I really don't like the idea of taking out a signature loan to buy a used rifle. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:21:19 PM EST
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Open bolt semi auto series of Mac firearms. You have to know about the normal triggers in the gun function to understand why. Not talking about any type of modification, just as the guns were built.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:22:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't they also make those in .45-70? Or was that a covid fever dream? |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:22:54 PM EST
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My vote is for the Broom Handle Mauser in 9MM as well. I would like to see one that you could install a 16" barrel and a stock when you wanted to. I am still trying to figure out a way to make a top loading AR15 that takes stripper clips. You could reload it with a detachable magazine as well.
While on the subject of the Broom Handle being made again. I know that metalurgy improved since the 19th century. Maybe an up-dated version to go along with one that looks and functions like the original that you would not be afraid to shoot too much. The updated version should take M16 stripper clips holding 9MM rounds. I might have to settle for a CZ Skorpion in .32 ACP since that is closer to my time in history. |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:24:49 PM EST
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I'd love to see Benelli buy rights to the SPAS-12 and make it reliable.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:27:20 PM EST
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FG-42 with scope (even though it sucked as a sniper weapon)
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:32:04 PM EST
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Geissele stuff during black friday sales
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:32:19 PM EST
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Winchester 1907.
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:35:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryYou haven't been keeping up on your Magpul / Zev Technologies news:  Magpul - FDP / FDC Update |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:36:35 PM EST
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Quoted: My pick is the Holloway Arms HAC-7. I had a HAC-7L for awhile. With the rear sight moved all the way to one side, I still couldn't get it to hit point-of-aim. The front sight tower appeared to be straight, so I'm not sure what the problem was. Tony |
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Posted: 2/14/2022 7:37:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Winchester 1907. Preferably one without a cracked stock or forearm. That would be a nice change. Tony |
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