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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the PCU (Protective Combat Uniform) layers 3B, 5 and 6 aren't worthy? Level 3B (2nd pic) - Patagonia low loft jacket with Primaloft Fusion and Mil Gore Tex shell. Level 5 (1st pic) - Patagonia highly water resistant shell constructed out of Nextec EPIC Glacier fabric that allows your body to push moisture out. Level 6 (2nd pic) - Patagonia Gore Tex shell Coupled with PCU levels 1 and 2, you can find very good configurations for real world use. ORC, Patagonia, Beyond Clothing, Wildthings, OR (who make the gloves pictured in the RECCE pic) and Halys all have manufactored pieces of the PCU system. Here is a good article on the PCU system: https://www.itstactical.com/gearcom/apparel/comprehensive-guide-protective-combat-uniform/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not enough gray... Also, not enough technical gear. I would much rather have good softshells, gortex etc from OR or Arc than any "combat uniform". Keep doing you though, bro. So you think the PCU (Protective Combat Uniform) layers 3B, 5 and 6 aren't worthy? Level 3B (2nd pic) - Patagonia low loft jacket with Primaloft Fusion and Mil Gore Tex shell. Level 5 (1st pic) - Patagonia highly water resistant shell constructed out of Nextec EPIC Glacier fabric that allows your body to push moisture out. Level 6 (2nd pic) - Patagonia Gore Tex shell Coupled with PCU levels 1 and 2, you can find very good configurations for real world use. ORC, Patagonia, Beyond Clothing, Wildthings, OR (who make the gloves pictured in the RECCE pic) and Halys all have manufactored pieces of the PCU system. Here is a good article on the PCU system: https://www.itstactical.com/gearcom/apparel/comprehensive-guide-protective-combat-uniform/ I can confirm the PCU is actually pretty good. I decided to take mid-tour leave to Norway to visit wife and her family on my last deployment. I obviously didn’t have any of my civilian cold weather gear with me in Iraq. So I took my PCU level 7 jacket and pants with me to Norway. We stayed in an old farm house with minimal electricity (lights only) no running water and wood stove was only heat source. I slept in the suit and was so toastie I had to take it off. We also went to the top Gaustatoppen (tallest mountain in Telemark county). It was probably 20 F and a wind that was 40mph. I only had a t-shirt under the lvl 7 PCU jacket and was very comfortable. The military got this system correct when designing it. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:21:35 PM EDT
[#2]
OP should teach a class on how to wash gear, that stuff is immaculate.
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:24:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP should teach a class on how to wash gear, that stuff is immaculate.  None of my gear ever looked that good past FTX 1.. Or PMCS in the motor pool for that matter. 
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:27:23 PM EDT
[#4]
is that a real 152. i didnt know you could buy those.
or is it some wish.com special. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:31:19 PM EDT
[#5]
How will the vortex warranty work in Ukraine?
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:42:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck is RECCE? You do it with a Bergen and kit, but you gotta yomp there and you’re probably hung over. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're coming around the the better way of thinking. Blend in with your environment. In any modern urban environment you'll just look like an obvious target dressed and kitted like that. Go grab some normal gear from OP, North Face, Mountain Hardware, Arc'teryx, etc. Layer that over concealable body armor. CCW a sidearm. Get a good cell phone and maybe a small dual band UHF/VHF ham radio (to listen mainly). And put an SBR in an unassuming backpack. Anything else you need in your pockets and backpack. No web gear, battle vest, etc...that's just painting a target on yourself. Stay away from Mole, Camo, velcro, etc. Look like a guy walking home from his shift at work. That’s a lot of fancy gear to look like a regular guy. In counter-insurgency the troops look for clues like nice shoes as indicators of people in need of attention. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:49:55 PM EDT
[#8]
RECCE all day. Nice gear Op
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:54:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a lot of fancy gear to look like a regular guy. In counter-insurgency the troops look for clues like nice shoes as indicators of people in need of attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're coming around the the better way of thinking. Blend in with your environment. In any modern urban environment you'll just look like an obvious target dressed and kitted like that. Go grab some normal gear from OP, North Face, Mountain Hardware, Arc'teryx, etc. Layer that over concealable body armor. CCW a sidearm. Get a good cell phone and maybe a small dual band UHF/VHF ham radio (to listen mainly). And put an SBR in an unassuming backpack. Anything else you need in your pockets and backpack. No web gear, battle vest, etc...that's just painting a target on yourself. Stay away from Mole, Camo, velcro, etc. Look like a guy walking home from his shift at work. That’s a lot of fancy gear to look like a regular guy. In counter-insurgency the troops look for clues like nice shoes as indicators of people in need of attention. Are you saying you don’t want to walk around looking like a gram star? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:54:28 PM EDT
[#10]
@raf what do you think of this kit?
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:56:39 PM EDT
[#11]
One that makes me look like a non-combatant.
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Posted: 2/26/2022 5:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a lot of fancy gear to look like a regular guy. In counter-insurgency the troops look for clues like nice shoes as indicators of people in need of attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're coming around the the better way of thinking. Blend in with your environment. In any modern urban environment you'll just look like an obvious target dressed and kitted like that. Go grab some normal gear from OP, North Face, Mountain Hardware, Arc'teryx, etc. Layer that over concealable body armor. CCW a sidearm. Get a good cell phone and maybe a small dual band UHF/VHF ham radio (to listen mainly). And put an SBR in an unassuming backpack. Anything else you need in your pockets and backpack. No web gear, battle vest, etc...that's just painting a target on yourself. Stay away from Mole, Camo, velcro, etc. Look like a guy walking home from his shift at work. That’s a lot of fancy gear to look like a regular guy. In counter-insurgency the troops look for clues like nice shoes as indicators of people in need of attention. Not really "fancy" where I live. High end outdoor gear, hiking boots or trail runners are a very regular thing. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 6:10:32 PM EDT
[#13]
I would fucking leave, because I have zero interest in being under an MLRS barrage.
I even have very minimal interest in being at the SENDING end of an MLRS barrage. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 6:14:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does his face look like a Japanese vagina? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who remembers these: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/9305085A-90A9-4E8C-B84B-938056DDC420-2294061.jpg Why does his face look like a Japanese vagina? 
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Posted: 2/26/2022 6:15:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even the shoes are different! 
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Posted: 2/26/2022 6:18:46 PM EDT
[#16]
It's going to be a contest to see which side shoots you first.
Admit it, you jerked off after laying all that crap out, didn't you? 
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Posted: 2/26/2022 6:55:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: is that a real 152. i didnt know you could buy those. or is it some wish.com special.  
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:01:43 PM EDT
[#18]
Sounds like a Far Cry game.
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:20:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whores. They call them whores. Ok.. I laughed at this in a serious moment of discussion. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:20:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Knowing nothing about how much armor/air support I would get if going direct action instead, I am going with this. fist bump, Bro Okie. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:21:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. In full scale open war, a lot of the cool guy gear and plate carriers will be secondary to long range fires, armor, ISR, Signals, and airpower. If you lack the above, be a goat herder with an Icom. gray man with a long rifle and IED's can do a helluva lot. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:24:00 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would fucking leave, because I have zero interest in being under an MLRS barrage. I even have very minimal interest in being at the SENDING end of an MLRS barrage. how will you take scalps? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:33:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would fucking leave, because I have zero interest in being under an MLRS barrage. I even have very minimal interest in being at the SENDING end of an MLRS barrage. That is why random potshots from several directions and limited ambushes are the way to go. Calling a MLRS or artillery strike for a single target and likely civilian casualties is no go. It may be initially but that shit will swing their resolve a lot further quickly. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:37:23 PM EDT
[#24]
If you’re going RECCE, bring a backup rifle in case the mission set changes, you deplete your larger caliber rifle ammo or you take closer contact.
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:49:11 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be a contest to see which side shoots you first. Admit it, you jerked off after laying all that crap out, didn't you? Huh, a thread about gear makes you think of men jerking off. I think Austin is the perfect place for you! |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:51:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're going RECCE, bring a backup rifle in case the mission set changes, you deplete your larger caliber rifle ammo or you take closer contact. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161329/8C8BA794-2C06-4F39-9DEB-E38492E4E298-2294259.jpg  Where are your outfits? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 7:58:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where are your outfits? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you're going RECCE, bring a backup rifle in case the mission set changes, you deplete your larger caliber rifle ammo or you take closer contact. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161329/8C8BA794-2C06-4F39-9DEB-E38492E4E298-2294259.jpg Where are your outfits? My mom hasn’t finished washing them yet.  |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:08:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Humble brag thread. Nice setups. Quote HistoryQuoted: Humble brag thread. Nice setups. this Quoted: OP should teach a class on how to wash gear, that stuff is immaculate. also this |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:09:48 PM EDT
[#29]
What the Hell.... No Socks?
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:10:55 PM EDT
[#30]
I've had dirty gear. I've also had nice stuff that is clean. Who cares.
Nice stuff, OP. And fun thread idea. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:15:28 PM EDT
[#31]
You give me Javelin or a stinger and I’ll get a kill.
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:24:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: is that a real 152. i didnt know you could buy those. or is it some wish.com special. TRI PRC-152 It was a glorified Boafeng in 2017. There have been several major hardware revisions since then. Now it is a three board, 15W (tested to over 12.3W), tri band that can also listen in on aviation frequencies. 100% waterproof, battery life measured in days, takes 6 pin mil comms connections (amplified/non-amplified), TNC antenna connector, all metal case and works with genuine Harris batteries. A few ARFCOM guys sharing a lot of experience with mil comms, gave it their blessing. I held off on purchasing one for a long time but the 2021's feature set pushed me over the top. I've also own a Kenwood TH-D74a as a primary. Here is an 18 page thread on it: https://www.ar15.com/forums/outdoors/TRI-AN-PRC-152/22-694849/  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:25:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My mom hasn’t finished washing them yet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you're going RECCE, bring a backup rifle in case the mission set changes, you deplete your larger caliber rifle ammo or you take closer contact. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161329/8C8BA794-2C06-4F39-9DEB-E38492E4E298-2294259.jpg Where are your outfits? My mom hasn’t finished washing them yet. Well, look at you Mr. Fancy Pants. I usually just spray all my stuff off with the pressure washer at the local car wash. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:25:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @raf what do you think of this kit? Isn't he going to tell me that a loin cloth and a jagged rock would be just as effective? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:28:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be a contest to see which side shoots you first. Admit it, you jerked off after laying all that crap out, didn't you? I couldn't, my dog was starring at me. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:29:50 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I couldn't, my dog was starring at me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's going to be a contest to see which side shoots you first. Admit it, you jerked off after laying all that crap out, didn't you? I couldn't, my dog was starring at me. You need to get back in there and finish up, asap. No one likes a quitter! |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:30:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the Hell.... No Socks? Darn Toughs... 4 PAIRS SIR!!! |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:31:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What pattern is that? Don't believe that's marpat |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:35:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: its the color of fat navy chicks.  |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 8:52:59 PM EDT
[#40]
 Basics of RECCE and Recon Kit (How to become DEADLY in the mountains, PART 1)  Recce Rifle Setup and Camouflage / Mountain Rifle Setup. Becoming Deadly in the Mountains Part 2. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:15:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would fucking leave, because I have zero interest in being under an MLRS barrage. I even have very minimal interest in being at the SENDING end of an MLRS barrage. If you are in MLRS, the other FA guys in the tube artillery will call you a pogue. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:18:34 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are in MLRS, the other FA guys in the tube artillery will call you a pogue. Can confirm. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:19:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: this also this Homeboy would be the only Joe in history that got an AAM for CIF turn-in. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:23:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Darn Toughs... 4 PAIRS SIR!!! Goddamn it. Couldn’t you find any neutrally-buoyant, fire-resistance, kevlar-protected level IIIA, low-radar-signature, modular-tactical socks in Navy AOR camo, like the goddamn frogmen wear? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:32:33 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes please, walking sucks. Something a fat person would say. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:33:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemme answer this seriously: I wouldn't want either of the load outs in OP. I want this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/116701/angel_of_mercy_jpg-2293830.JPG Wings? |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:35:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Are folks purposely mislabeling "recce" or are they just retarded?
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:36:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whores. They call them whores. 
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:37:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the PCU (Protective Combat Uniform) layers 3B, 5 and 6 aren't worthy? Level 3B (2nd pic) - Patagonia low loft jacket with Primaloft Fusion and Mil Gore Tex shell. Level 5 (1st pic) - Patagonia highly water resistant shell constructed out of Nextec EPIC Glacier fabric that allows your body to push moisture out. Level 6 (2nd pic) - Patagonia Gore Tex shell Coupled with PCU levels 1 and 2, you can find very good configurations for real world use. ORC, Patagonia, Beyond Clothing, Wildthings, OR (who make the gloves pictured in the RECCE pic) and Halys all have manufactored pieces of the PCU system. Here is a good article on the PCU system: https://www.itstactical.com/gearcom/apparel/comprehensive-guide-protective-combat-uniform/ And Solomons for the win. |
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Posted: 2/26/2022 9:42:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lemme answer this seriously: I wouldn't want either of the load outs in OP. I want this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/116701/angel_of_mercy_jpg-2293830.JPG You want to go to war armed with a 9mm carbine? |
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