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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:01:37 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: RECCE. You can kill a lot more bad guys and possibly live longer so long as comms are secure. This right here. Three words: call for fire. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:10:34 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys are all going to do reconnaissance, what command unit will you associate yourself with? How will you communicate with these command elements? Are you familiar with the various Information Requirements (CCIR as an example) and how they fit into MDMP? Even basic reporting formats like SALT/ SALUTE or simple concepts like METT-C? Are you going to set up hide sites and OPs? Have you been studying your old-school vehicle identification decks? Is that radio crypto and frequency hopping capable? Have you thought about access to jalapeño cheese spread in theater? Those adidas motherfuckers might try to stiff you with just peanut butter. This whole Recce thing seems like a tough row for some random dude, although, granted, those cool boots are cool and cool is cool, no doubt. Anyone who thinks "recce sounds cool, I want to be a sniper" would do well to research all of this. I know I have some learning to do. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:24:30 PM EST
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Quoted: Let's say you are magically teleported to a non-city center in Ukraine. You're pro Ukraine and you've got comms to a native JOC. Do you go Direct Action or RECCE? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220225_225856587_jpg-2293763.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/PXL_20220219_232003609_jpg-2293765.JPG |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:36:08 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread understands that ambushes, drive-by’s, sniper attacks, pot shots from windows, hit and runs from alleys, calling artillery, and directing air strikes and other things generally called “recce” on the internet are all actually Direct Action, even if done from a concealed position, right? In theory yes. In the context of this thread not so much IMO. |
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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:38:24 PM EST
[#5]
I would want a suppressed bolt gun with a thermal sight, NV binos and stims...
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Posted: 2/27/2022 8:40:23 PM EST
[#6]
Most of what the Recce guys do is route planning for ops and overwatch for the assaulters.
Bill Rapier was a Recce guy at DEVGRU for years. He said that the longest shot that he had taken in combat was around 70 yards, and that was providing overwatch in Afghanistan.  With his "RECCE" rifle. Oh, he also has a pistol. 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 2:33:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I'm showing my age, but what's wrong with good ol' fashioned "Recon?" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This RECCE shit is the gay. In Murrica we LRRP. God you people don't even know your own history. Maybe I'm showing my age, but what's wrong with good ol' fashioned "Recon?" Because my parents loved me I was raised on a healthy diet of 80s movies, including Heartbreak Ridge. "Recon" is the superior term here. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 4:02:53 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because my parents loved me I was raised on a healthy diet of 80s movies, including Heartbreak Ridge. "Recon" is the superior term here.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:10:34 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then think of the implications of that question. You find yourself in a country the size of Texas. There is fighting going on all along the Louisiana border, in Houston, Amarillo, and all around the DFW metroplex. Go forth and LARP. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not with that attitude. No attitude intended. Then think of the implications of that question. You find yourself in a country the size of Texas. There is fighting going on all along the Louisiana border, in Houston, Amarillo, and all around the DFW metroplex. Go forth and LARP. I'll be at the embassy, taking down martinis and slaying puss. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:13:08 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be at the embassy, taking down martinis and slaying puss. So.... DA in other words. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:17:03 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be in the bushes getting my fuck on with a Javelin and a suppressed bolt action. I've even got a multicam adidas tracksuit.  Get Yours Today! |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:41:56 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So.... DA in other words. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll be at the embassy, taking down martinis and slaying puss. So.... DA in other words. Yes. Liberating appreciative vaginas. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 7:42:39 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Liberating appreciative vaginas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll be at the embassy, taking down martinis and slaying puss. So.... DA in other words. Yes. Liberating appreciative vaginas.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:01:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLOL advertises Russian website. That's some ace 4D chess right there!
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Posted: 2/28/2022 8:44:49 PM EST
[#15]
You guys know there are no respawns, right?
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:00:39 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd be in the bushes getting my fuck on with a Javelin and a suppressed bolt action. I've even got a multicam adidas tracksuit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172089/01A0DCEC-B1DA-4432-BC82-E5BD93EC01D6_jpe-2293853.JPG  |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:32:02 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would want a suppressed bolt gun with a thermal sight, NV binos and stims... >Two enemies walk around the corner 10 yards away "Stay right there guys!" >Run 290 yards away >Take them both out |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:41:34 PM EST
[#18]
Direct action is more my preference.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:48:56 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you guys are all going to do reconnaissance, what command unit will you associate yourself with? How will you communicate with these command elements? Are you familiar with the various Information Requirements (CCIR as an example) and how they fit into MDMP? Even basic reporting formats like SALT/ SALUTE or simple concepts like METT-C? Are you going to set up hide sites and OPs? Have you been studying your old-school vehicle identification decks? Is that radio crypto and frequency hopping capable? Have you thought about access to jalapeño cheese spread in theater? Those adidas motherfuckers might try to stiff you with just peanut butter. This whole Recce thing seems like a tough row for some random dude, although, granted, those cool boots are cool and cool is cool, no doubt. It hurts me when I see people wearing 9 line shirts who don't know what a 9 line is. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:00:56 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's 3x as much shit as any of the actual Ukrainian soldiers are carrying |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:04:34 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're going RECCE, bring a backup rifle in case the mission set changes, you deplete your larger caliber rifle ammo or you take closer contact. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161329/8C8BA794-2C06-4F39-9DEB-E38492E4E298-2294259.jpg |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:11:07 PM EST
[#22]
Both pairs of shoes suck.
Why do you have locking carabiners on your gear holders? You really wanna fuck around with the screw gate on your belt when you’re just trying to hang up your cool-guy gloves? I’ll take a track suit and some soccer slides and hang out with the Slav squatters. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:13:44 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It hurts me when I see people wearing 9 line shirts who don't know what a 9 line is. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:20:02 PM EST
[#24]
That's an awful lot of money spent to say you have no clue what any sort of military operation is.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:30:29 PM EST
[#25]
Airsoft 152 MBITR?
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:43:33 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Elaborate please. How does the sidearm fit in the recce role? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because if you are actually doing it then you don’t want one. I knew verrrrrry few people who would take a sidearm I don't agree. That sidearm might be what gets you home. Elaborate please. How does the sidearm fit in the recce role? Suppressed pistols are a quieter option for barking dogs, sentries…and other uses if compromised. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:47:12 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Airsoft 152 MBITR? They seem pretty cool for a civ radio. But I wouldn't use it for work lol |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:56:11 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Suppressed pistols are a quieter option for barking dogs, sentries…and other uses if compromised. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because if you are actually doing it then you don’t want one. I knew verrrrrry few people who would take a sidearm I don't agree. That sidearm might be what gets you home. Elaborate please. How does the sidearm fit in the recce role? Suppressed pistols are a quieter option for barking dogs, sentries…and other uses if compromised. Wow. Thats some good recce work there. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:09:45 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. Thats some good recce work there. I knew an old (1950-1978) infantry/SF guy that said the best way to make a scout is to send a guy out to look for the enemy without a weapon. If he comes back he probably is good at scouting. No shit, he said in Korea they didn't take anything metal with them, and they'd crawl back through Brit lines because Americans will shoot at sounds that Brits won't. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:22:30 PM EST
[#30]
I have no military or combat experience and definitely don't like the idea of urban warfare. I grew up sneaking through the mountains of SW VA still hunting deer, squirrels, rabbits, grouse, etc.. I think recon in a rural area would be more up my alley. I have all but 1 of my ARs set up as "Recce" type rifles.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:38:33 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no military or combat experience and definitely don't like the idea of urban warfare. I grew up sneaking through the mountains of SW VA still hunting deer, squirrels, rabbits, grouse, etc.. I think recon in a rural area would be more up my alley. I have all but 1 of my ARs set up as "Recce" type rifles. You know how you defeat an insurgency? You get them to move into the hills and then ignore them until they get old and die. Works really well. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:47:08 PM EST
[#32]
I would prefer to spawn in with a B-52. I wouldn't drop any bombs, I'd just fly really low, confuse the shit out of both sides. And right after I die from crashing since I have no ducking idea how to fly a plane, I would spawn in as Putin and then nuke myself.
Nice gear op. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:49:17 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe people just like what the shirt depicts? Crazy fucking concept eh? The Three Bs of the reconnaissance community: Broken relationships, bad credit and binge drinking. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:52:17 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Liberating appreciative vaginas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll be at the embassy, taking down martinis and slaying puss. So.... DA in other words. Yes. Liberating appreciative vaginas. Diverse methods of insertion. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:55:38 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. Thats some good recce work there. That suppressed .22 would also be good for Recon use if you find yourself on an OP in the desert for a long time, and get really bored, and the fucking rats won’t stay out of your shit, so you declare a state of war upon them. Fucking rats must die!!! |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 11:58:39 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know how you defeat an insurgency? You get them to move into the hills and then ignore them until they get old and die. Works really well. Those insurgent fish must swim in a sea of people, with no need for bicycles. Or some such shit. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:31:40 AM EST
[#37]
OP has some great gear. I'm jelly.
I'd choose the Recce option, but my clothes are the same for either. Just some cheap pants and shirt from LAPG. Merrill boots. Carhartt goes well in my area (South Texas) and is extremely common in town so I think I'm good there, until it rains. Then I break out my practical, non-tactical Patagonia/REI rain gear. Or are we talking about Ukraine specifically? I'd probably still use it. The LAPG pants are ranger green and might be a little technical for some towns. Maybe not the mountain - backpacking areas. My wife is a bow hunter so I'll steal her leafy suit. I'm a backpacker and have a green Osprey pack but I'd grab a camo pack cover because it's kind of a bright green. My brother gave me a cheap chest rig. Probably some other odds and ends too and some spray paint. The closest I came to the military was Boy Scouts though. Did I mention I'm jealous of OP's gear? Fun idea for a thread. Thanks. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:30:56 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It hurts me when I see people wearing 9 line shirts who don't know what a 9 line is. I like 5 lines better. |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:46:41 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of what the Recce guys do is route planning for ops and overwatch for the assaulters. Bill Rapier was a Recce guy at DEVGRU for years. He said that the longest shot that he had taken in combat was around 70 yards, and that was providing overwatch in Afghanistan. https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/afghanistan6c.jpg With his "RECCE" rifle. Oh, he also has a pistol. Being an a recce troop means you are doing DA 99 percent of the time. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 10:48:25 AM EST
[#40]
I go home.
Ain't no Russian ever call me hunkee! |
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Posted: 3/6/2022 2:39:31 PM EST
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Posted: 3/6/2022 2:44:29 PM EST
[#42]
I am a tanker, so I pick direct action.
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Posted: 3/6/2022 7:29:38 PM EST
[#43]
Quote Historyfuck grey shop. I ordered a $100 pair of pants last black friday. they aledgedly shipped them and DHL lost them. told me they would look into it, I contaced DHL who said they lost it. I fwd that info to grey shop who said OK well get you a new set out soon, and then totally ghosted me. I have emailed several times over months time span, contacted their rep on Insta and even emailed their site direct and its crickets. Never again. |
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