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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:41:08 AM EDT
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Picked one up a few years ago for sub $250...I plan to hold onto it for many of the reasons in the OP but wouldn’t pay $400+ for it.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:43:04 AM EDT
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Those look rough.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:53:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm one of those oldsters and I got mine for $110 back in the mid-90's and even I came in here to tell these fucksticks that this ain't the 90's anymore and they ain't gonna get them any cheaper now or in the future so quitcher bitchin!   Roses ran their $130.00 SKSs on sale about every month for under $100.00 back in the early 90s but fuck that, they ran their $50.00 Finned M91s on sale for $34.00. Those would have been the ones to stack deep as they go for more than the Chi-Com SKSs now.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:54:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those look rough. That’s actually part of the appeal to many. Millennials are attracted to rifles with “provenance.” They’re already accustomed to all the fancy wizbang guns that SHOT show gives us, but seldom get a rifle that was actually used to tyrannize and kill people. I know that seems strange to boomers and Gen X because they grew up on old war implements. Millennials usually did not. You know grandpa “sporterized” his bringback K98 after the war to deer hunt with it? He didn’t care about the history because he lived it. He just liked having a free rifle. Then his kids just liked having cheap Ammo and parts kits and seeking the “nicest” milsurp you could dig out of the barrel at the hardware store. The grandkids and great grandkids now seek rifles that “were actually there” because there’s something mystical about the object that carries history. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:56:28 AM EDT
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For $400, I'd like the importer to take a first pass at melting out the cosmo.
 You have no clue what you're getting for $400, and that's my biggest problem.Functional gun? Great, sign me up. Smoothbore single shot that I need to invest the time to scrape ancient cosmo out of? No thanks. I played that game with Classic a year or two ago on a Yugo SKS. Got lucky. Not interested in doing it again. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 11:58:17 AM EDT
[#6]
Fuck PSA !!
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you telling me PSA doesn't have daily deals where a nitride kit is around $400? If not PSA, you can build it if you shop around... even in Fauxvid 19. A $400 beat up Chinese SKS is retarded in 2020. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tell me more about building an AR for the same damn price on their website. please. Are you telling me PSA doesn't have daily deals where a nitride kit is around $400? If not PSA, you can build it if you shop around... even in Fauxvid 19. A $400 beat up Chinese SKS is retarded in 2020. Even the cheapest PSA rifle is probably going to be pushing $700 by the time you’re done. Also, piecing together the cheapest rifle you can probably isn’t going to get you the best results. The SKS is obsolete, but at least it works. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For $400, I'd like the importer to take a first pass at melting out the cosmo. You have no clue what you're getting for $400, and that's my biggest problem.Functional gun? Great, sign me up. Smoothbore single shot that I need to invest the time to scrape ancient cosmo out of? No thanks. I played that game with Classic a year or two ago on a Yugo SKS. Got lucky. Not interested in doing it again. I definitely wouldn’t do it again lol I just wanted the experience and to learn a new platform. Definitely worth the experience. Not worth the hassle if you’re not a tinkering type or don’t care how the gun works or how to take it apart and put it back together. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s actually part of the appeal to many. Millennials are attracted to rifles with “provenance.” They’re already accustomed to all the fancy wizbang guns that SHOT show gives us, but seldom get a rifle that was actually used to tyrannize and kill people. I know that seems strange to boomers and Gen X because they grew up on old war implements. Millennials usually did not. You know grandpa “sporterized” his bringback K98 after the war to deer hunt with it? He didn’t care about the history because he lived it. He just liked having a free rifle. Then his kids just liked having cheap Ammo and parts kits and seeking the “nicest” milsurp you could dig out of the barrel at the hardware store. The grandkids and great grandkids now seek rifles that “were actually there” because there’s something mystical about the object that carries history. Except for the the tyrannize part, that's one of the major appeals to Garand owners, a weapon that may have seen stuff and done things, man! It was a fine battle rifle in its day, but it can easily be superceded by 100 different rifles and probably for less cost. But with a Garand, there is history attached. Even if your particular one didn't serve, it was produced in the same factory by the same companies as rifles that did serve. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:54:16 PM EDT
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Im not gonna get one from PSA but may pick one up the next time someone sells or trades one in. I have a wolverine with no host
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Posted: 7/27/2020 12:59:45 PM EDT
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Had one back in the day when they were $100. They were worth that. Today's prices, not so much.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:05:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My brothers best friends dad, former Navy SEAL, sold my brother this for around $200 a couple of months ago. It's communist equipment, but it feels solid. https://i.imgur.com/cjXG4Rl.jpg Navy seals use SKSs?  Your bro could sell that for a few K. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:10:59 PM EDT
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true
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The c&r lets me hide my shame when buying things such as sks's. I buy good guns at gun stores. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “It would require me to drive to a gun store” is a stupid reason to not own a gun. The c&r lets me hide my shame when buying things such as sks's. I buy good guns at gun stores. The disguise I would need in order that no one I know would recognize me carrying out an SKS from my LGS would cost me a couple hundred dollars on top of a 15 dollar transfer fee. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:42:41 PM EDT
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I bought mine back in the 90s. It is still my favorite hog hunting gun. More comfortable to carry all day than my ARs, and plenty effective.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 1:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why buy them when the Chinese will leave all kinds of guns on the ground when they attack us. If you actually believe this you are delusional and need a reality check. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:27:23 PM EDT
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Here’s my SKS story. In 1993 I was a poor cop in North Carolina, working for a larger agency that was liberal even back then. Although we qualified with 870 shotguns, we weren’t allowed to be issued one, only shot the Remington in the academy.
Most of the ex military guys on the squad knew that even then, we needed some type of rifle or shotgun in the trunk, just in case, figuring if the SHTF that hard that we needed a rifle, we would be forgiven for violating WSPD policy. A few of us picked up SKS’, with a folding Tapco stock, and threw them into the trunk of our take home cars. Most of us had families, and making 26 thousand a year in 1993 hurt. The SKS would get the job done, even with a Tapco stock, and being neglected in a soft case. Maybe because we were former military, we thought an SKS was better than nothing. Long story short, after a few shootings, the department let us have shotguns, and before I resigned, even had a Ruger 40 cal carbine, in the trunk of course... I still have my SKS, and the Tapco stock, but the stock was swapped back to the original wood. The moral of the story is that the SKS can get the job done even with iron sights, and it’s free of the evil features if you take the folding bayonet off. Think about it....if they come for your evil rifle, do you want something you can use out in the open.... |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:40:26 PM EDT
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$400?
buy a real gun. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The disguise I would need in order that no one I know would recognize me carrying out an SKS from my LGS would cost me a couple hundred dollars on top of a 15 dollar transfer fee. Exactly. 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $320 from Classic firearms After shipping and transfer it was right under $400 And anyone who paid that for what I looked at in the photo over paid significantly. I laugh my ass off at the idea of someone getting bent over the barrel like that . |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even the cheapest PSA rifle is probably going to be pushing $700 by the time you’re done. Also, piecing together the cheapest rifle you can probably isn’t going to get you the best results. The SKS is obsolete, but at least it works.  Attached FileThere are plenty of good parts to build an AR that will still be significantly better than a SKS. That is not even considering the used market, which all these commie 2x4s are. I'll reiterate that only a fucking idiot or Californian would pick an SKS over an AR-15 in 2020. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:04:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And anyone who paid that for what I looked at in the photo over paid significantly. I laugh my ass off at the idea of someone getting bent over the barrel like that . He got Ben’d over |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:05:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Threaded or pressed barrels?
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:07:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif There are plenty of good parts to build an AR that will still be significantly better than a SKS. That is not even considering the used market, which all these commie 2x4s are. I'll reiterate that only a fucking idiot or Californian would pick an SKS over an AR-15 in 2020. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even the cheapest PSA rifle is probably going to be pushing $700 by the time you’re done. Also, piecing together the cheapest rifle you can probably isn’t going to get you the best results. The SKS is obsolete, but at least it works. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif There are plenty of good parts to build an AR that will still be significantly better than a SKS. That is not even considering the used market, which all these commie 2x4s are. I'll reiterate that only a fucking idiot or Californian would pick an SKS over an AR-15 in 2020. I don’t think anyone has suggested that an SKS is superior to an AR. What I’m saying is that you aren’t getting a decent AR for $350 at this time. I’d be surprised if you could get ANY AR at that price. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were fun at $89-$99, for $400 I'll build another AR. This. I bought and shot plenty when they were under a hundred bucks, and that's about all they were ever worth. For what they cost now you can get a decent rifle that takes a detachable magazine. They're a novelty at this point. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:26:09 PM EDT
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This is yet another thread where many ARF.com members admit that despite being gun owners they are not really “gun guys.” And that’s OK. You look at guns merely as defensive tools, but you really have no love for guns.
If something isn’t a Tier 1 tactical gun blessed by the likes of good old Rusty, and his cola spewing peep eaters, you have no interest. And once again, it’s OK not to be a gun guy. It is a shame that you can’t broaden your horizons and enjoy a gun because of its history, beauty, or the enjoyment it provides on the range but being a Tier 1 operator is a full time job and obsession. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:07:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is yet another thread where many ARF.com members admit that despite being gun owners they are not really “gun guys.” And that’s OK. You look at guns merely as defensive tools, but you really have no love for guns. If something isn’t a Tier 1 tactical gun blessed by the likes of good old Rusty, and his cola spewing peep eaters, you have no interest. And once again, it’s OK not to be a gun guy. It is a shame that you can’t broaden your horizons and enjoy a gun because of its history, beauty, or the enjoyment it provides on the range but being a Tier 1 operator is a full time job and obsession. I have a long history of railing against the "operator" horseshit on this board. However those guns are whipped and if someone paid $400 for one of those and then had the poor judgement to brag about they deserve to be pilloried on the interwebs. Seriously. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s actually part of the appeal to many. Millennials are attracted to rifles with “provenance.” They’re already accustomed to all the fancy wizbang guns that SHOT show gives us, but seldom get a rifle that was actually used to tyrannize and kill people. I know that seems strange to boomers and Gen X because they grew up on old war implements. Millennials usually did not. You know grandpa “sporterized” his bringback K98 after the war to deer hunt with it? He didn’t care about the history because he lived it. He just liked having a free rifle. Then his kids just liked having cheap Ammo and parts kits and seeking the “nicest” milsurp you could dig out of the barrel at the hardware store. The grandkids and great grandkids now seek rifles that “were actually there” because there’s something mystical about the object that carries history. Millenials are idiots. Those guns are flat out abused / clapped out that is not provenance. I own collectible rifles that have provenance ... By the standards you just applied I can make any gun have some provenance by dragging it down a dirt road behind my car and finding a Millenial to sell it to. 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:11:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll reiterate that only a fucking idiot or Californian would pick an SKS over an AR-15 in 2020. Unless you already have 87 ARs and they’re spilling out of every drawer and closet and you want to mix things up a bit. Without spending $1500. Or buying obscure guns that you can’t find ammo for. And you don’t actually intend to use it for HD or boogaloo. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:12:19 PM EDT
[#30]
I already have a mint Russian. No thanks.....
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:13:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Millenials are idiots. Those guns are flat out abused / clapped out that is not provenance. I own collectible rifles that have provenance ... By the standards you just applied I can make any gun have some provenance by dragging it down a dirt road behind my car and finding a Millenial to sell it to. Are you new here? Everyone knows that provenance is correctly applied by dragging it down the driveway. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:20:33 PM EDT
[#32]
I bought one brand new in the late 80's early 90's when they were $120, sold it a long time ago for less...regrets, yes
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:26:26 PM EDT
[#33]
If they don’t accept C&R they can suck me sideways
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:28:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought one when they were $299. Spent 2 hours cleaning cosmoline and it probably needs 2 more hours. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/231690/9D3B81C5-DEA2-4B7B-935F-E58C3A62C876_jpe-1520974.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/231690/AC9A2ECA-8E5E-4EDF-90C1-C27EA74F4E44_jpe-1520977.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/231690/66359341-1CB6-4F60-A1C0-69474034A265_jpe-1520978.JPG That's beautiful. 
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:36:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:42:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Current buyers set the market price, not some worn-out Fudd or Tactical Tony that had a mil-surp moment back in the early 90s or even someone like myself that puts in the work and hunts down deals.
Here is sort of a example. I've really not kept up with WW-2 German mil-surp prices except for K98s and snagged a matching byf-42 P-38 the other day on a trade. I have a bit less than $400.00 in it. To my own amazement it easily worth 2X what I paid for it at auction.  Attached FileSure, to me it's not worth a whole lot more than the trade value I have in it but people like me do not set the auction prices. It's really as simple as that. You want a eye-opener.....Go to completed auctions on GunPorker (where the pricing rubber really meets the road) and type in Chinese SKS, look at the first two pages, and tell me how many SKSs have sold for under $400.00 counting shipping and a average transfer fee of $25.00.....I'll save you the trouble, one (assuming shipping and transfer totaled less than $50.00) and it is one of the ones like PSA is selling. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:45:59 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Millenials are idiots. Those guns are flat out abused / clapped out that is not provenance. I own collectible rifles that have provenance ... By the standards you just applied I can make any gun have some provenance by dragging it down a dirt road behind my car and finding a Millenial to sell it to. You missed the entire point that poster was making. Good job boomer  |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:11:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You missed the entire point that poster was making. Good job boomer No I didn't and millennials are still idiots. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:36:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Millenials are idiots. Those guns are flat out abused / clapped out that is not provenance. I own collectible rifles that have provenance ... By the standards you just applied I can make any gun have some provenance by dragging it down a dirt road behind my car and finding a Millenial to sell it to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That’s actually part of the appeal to many. Millennials are attracted to rifles with “provenance.” They’re already accustomed to all the fancy wizbang guns that SHOT show gives us, but seldom get a rifle that was actually used to tyrannize and kill people. I know that seems strange to boomers and Gen X because they grew up on old war implements. Millennials usually did not. You know grandpa “sporterized” his bringback K98 after the war to deer hunt with it? He didn’t care about the history because he lived it. He just liked having a free rifle. Then his kids just liked having cheap Ammo and parts kits and seeking the “nicest” milsurp you could dig out of the barrel at the hardware store. The grandkids and great grandkids now seek rifles that “were actually there” because there’s something mystical about the object that carries history. Millenials are idiots. Those guns are flat out abused / clapped out that is not provenance. I own collectible rifles that have provenance ... By the standards you just applied I can make any gun have some provenance by dragging it down a dirt road behind my car and finding a Millenial to sell it to. Oh look, another broad brush millennial post. We weren’t around for the barrels full of milsurps for $20 like you were, old guns are expensive now. A lot of us also don’t care about provenance, it’s a cool old military gun and that’s all that matters. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:40:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t think anyone has suggested that an SKS is superior to an AR. What I’m saying is that you aren’t getting a decent AR for $350 at this time. I’d be surprised if you could get ANY AR at that price. OP made a laundry list of meme answers on buying SKS that is right around $400 OTD. You can build a chrome lined AR for that much if you don't post the deals on arfcom or gun deals or lurk in the EE. I cannot wrap my head around people buying beat to fuck Chinese SKSs like gun hipsters. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP made a laundry list of meme answers on buying SKS that is right around $400 OTD. You can build a chrome lined AR for that much if you don't post the deals on arfcom or gun deals or lurk in the EE. I cannot wrap my head around people buying beat to fuck Chinese SKSs like gun hipsters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t think anyone has suggested that an SKS is superior to an AR. What I’m saying is that you aren’t getting a decent AR for $350 at this time. I’d be surprised if you could get ANY AR at that price. OP made a laundry list of meme answers on buying SKS that is right around $400 OTD. You can build a chrome lined AR for that much if you don't post the deals on arfcom or gun deals or lurk in the EE. I cannot wrap my head around people buying beat to fuck Chinese SKSs like gun hipsters. As had been covered before, if you have 17 ARs, what’s the point of another one? Not every gun has to be the best at everything, I have a bunch of 70 year old bolt guns because they’re cool, they aren’t for going to war with, they’re for enjoyment. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they don’t accept C&R they can suck me sideways This. Was tempted until I scrolled down and read that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:52:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As had been covered before, if you have 17 ARs, what’s the point of another one? Not every gun has to be the best at everything, I have a bunch of 70 year old bolt guns because they’re cool, they aren’t for going to war with, they’re for enjoyment. The 18th AR can be turned into whatever the fuck you want vs. a very mediocre rifle that has shitty stocks, sights, triggers, and accuracy. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 7:53:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Damnit op!
I had just enough beer. It's your ass if it's not in Mint Condition. Or with cool soldier graffiti.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:18:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Had a guy have one shipped to my shop, he was less then excited with the condition. It looked like they found it at the bottom of a river.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:42:04 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 18th AR can be turned into whatever the fuck you want vs. a very mediocre rifle that has shitty stocks, sights, triggers, and accuracy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As had been covered before, if you have 17 ARs, what’s the point of another one? Not every gun has to be the best at everything, I have a bunch of 70 year old bolt guns because they’re cool, they aren’t for going to war with, they’re for enjoyment. The 18th AR can be turned into whatever the fuck you want vs. a very mediocre rifle that has shitty stocks, sights, triggers, and accuracy. I have no desire, and no use for even half that many ARs. YMMV |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $400? buy a real gun. It IS a real gun that'll still kill you REAL DEAD!
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't buy one when they were $70 I sure as shit ain't spending $400 on one. same sentiment from me |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 10:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you actually believe this you are delusional and need a reality check. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why buy them when the Chinese will leave all kinds of guns on the ground when they attack us. If you actually believe this you are delusional and need a reality check. Oh, I don't think he's delusional for thinking we'd slaughter the Chinese en mass..... Yeah, yeah, I know you were talking about them attacking us... |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 10:03:47 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look, another broad brush millennial post. We weren’t around for the barrels full of milsurps for $20 like you were, old guns are expensive now. A lot of us also don’t care about provenance, it’s a cool old military gun and that’s all that matters. Go watch your barney episodes kid , let the men talk about guns. |
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