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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:09:00 AM EST
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“Every time we get them what they need, they win. But this administration is so concerned about being provocative,” said McCaul. “We are not doing what we need to do to have them win this thing more quickly. The longer this thing drags out, the more difficult it’s going to be, and we’re not giving them what they need.” The new Republican Party strategy: out Democrat the Democrats. Well actually, not that new... |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:11:10 AM EST
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I'm cool with a pat on the back and "we're with you." But stop sending billions of our tax dollars over willy nilly. Have Z pimp other countries for cash.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:11:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The new Republican Party strategy: out Democrat the Democrats. Well actually, not that new...  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:11:57 AM EST
[#4]
What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:12:48 AM EST
[#5]
But we have to fight them over there so we don't fight them over here, lol!
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:12:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The new Republican Party strategy: out Democrat the Democrats. Well actually, not that new... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/45B4BEFD-9797-4DBC-ABAA-5371745CDA30_jpe-2644538.JPG Load it into an omnibus bill that allows several million new H1-B visas and that will change right quick. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:14:12 AM EST
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:15:06 AM EST
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supporting the UA is a great deal https://cepa.org/article/its-costing-peanuts-for-the-us-to-defeat-russia/
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:17:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:19:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Load it into an omnibus bill that allows several million new H1-B visas and that will change right quick. Senate GOP appears far more on board with Ukraine aid than House so we’ll see how this pans out in the next 2 years of Congress. Media says McCarthy and others weren’t swayed by Zelensky speech. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:19:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryMan he was in Paris to bang French women! |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:19:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryEh, I considered it....but, it isn't quite analogous. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:21:15 AM EST
[#13]
Fuck Zelensky.
He can take all of his stolen money and go straight to Hell. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:21:17 AM EST
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Mitch and Chuck will get them back in line.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:21:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxU_HXn8zNqrMo5wdVZmnqOEZk4O708Zt1ZEEb2jBtPj50tjZ-0J4Y_N9lISrYk-PWVS0&usqp=CAU  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:23:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mitch and Chuck will get them back in line. These are House members not Senate https://www.foxnews.com/politics/zelensky-makes-direct-appeal-gop-critics-arguing-no-country-is-safe-if-ukraine-falters.amp  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:24:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryWell, it is considering it was used for its intended purpose and not laundered back into politician's pockets. But, yeah, sure. Totally the same. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:26:26 AM EST
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The main reason why derpy right wingers are taking an anti-Ukraine stance is so that they can pat themselves on the back for being contrarians who don't take "normie" stances. They define themselves as being redpilled guys who believe themselves to be above "normies" and thus must always take the opposite stance, because they know the "real facts." In reality, though, they don't care about facts. They only care about not being "one of them." They're nothing more than right wing NPCs.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:29:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The main reason why derpy right wingers are taking an anti-Ukraine stance is so that they can pat themselves on the back for being contrarians who don't take "normie" stances. They define themselves as being redpilled guys who believe themselves to be above "normies" and thus must always take the opposite stance, because they know the "real facts." In reality, though, they don't care about facts. They only care about not being "one of them." They're nothing more than right wing NPCs. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-republicans-who-sat-during-zelenskys-speech-1768962?amp=1  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:29:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is considering it was used for its intended purpose and not laundered back into politician's pockets. But, yeah, sure. Totally the same. Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is considering it was used for its intended purpose and not laundered back into politician's pockets. But, yeah, sure. Totally the same. You and I both know that you have zero evidence of money laundering, beyond your gut feelings and references to "10% for the big guy." |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:30:41 AM EST
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It doesn't matter because the GOP senate approved the appropriations bill which should fund most of next year. Shelby was even saying that it helped out the Democrats, but that it will "save the GOP house from itself" a.k.a. cut spending. I expect lots of grandstanding from GOP House members now that they don't have to actually vote down anything.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:32:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter because the GOP senate approved the appropriations bill which should fund most of next year. Shelby was even saying that it helped out the Democrats, but that it will "save the GOP house from itself" a.k.a. cut spending. I expect lots of grandstanding from GOP House members now that they don't have to actually vote down anything. I’m wondering about after January 2023 when new GOP members take office |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:37:23 AM EST
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It will stay the same or increase, part of this is money for the defense industry now that the GWOT is over. I’m fine with building up arms and ammo, I am not fine with giving it and money to UKR in the quantities we are, the EU should be giving more… Much more, it is their continent.
I would agree to matching the EU’s aid to UKR, not one dime or bullet more. Plus, the EU will have to replenish those arms and may buy from the US. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:37:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The new Republican Party strategy: out Democrat the Democrats. Well actually, not that new...  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:38:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and I both know that you have zero evidence of money laundering, beyond your gut feelings and references to "10% for the big guy." ROFL. 
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:38:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:40:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryBro. Its totally the same, bro. *honk |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:41:45 AM EST
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Heritage Foundation position was surprising
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter because the GOP senate approved the appropriations bill which should fund most of next year. Shelby was even saying that it helped out the Democrats, but that it will "save the GOP house from itself" a.k.a. cut spending. I expect lots of grandstanding from GOP House members now that they don't have to actually vote down anything. https://www.axios.com/2022/12/22/mccarthy-heritage-foundation-senate-republicans |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:42:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. Totally. Franklin was a grade A pussy for sucking French dick during the Revolution. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:43:03 AM EST
[#30]
McFailure will whip votes for the spending with as many threats as necessary, and maybe someone losing pork or getting kicked off of a committee as a warning.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:43:15 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxU_HXn8zNqrMo5wdVZmnqOEZk4O708Zt1ZEEb2jBtPj50tjZ-0J4Y_N9lISrYk-PWVS0&usqp=CAU Beat me. Lol. Glad others can see stupidity when it’s present. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:43:42 AM EST
[#32]
Good. Maybe this is the beginning of the GOP showing a little damned backbone for a change.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:44:41 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally. Franklin was a grade A pussy for sucking French dick during the Revolution. You're late to the party. I already addressed this above. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:45:28 AM EST
[#34]
They act that way until their War for Profit donors give them a phone call.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:46:20 AM EST
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If we don't send help, the money will be used on other major bull shit.
Fuck both parties. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:50:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're late to the party. I already addressed this above. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Totally. Franklin was a grade A pussy for sucking French dick during the Revolution. You're late to the party. I already addressed this above. You didn’t address anything. It’s as close to a perfect comparison as possible. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:54:10 AM EST
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The best use of defense spending since we were killing the Germans and Japs. The trillions spend on defense in the cold war and only a handful of dead Russians to show for the effort but for a few hundred billion we now have someone else killing Russian wholesale. It' a god damn black Friday sale every day over there.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:55:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn’t address anything. It’s as close to a perfect comparison as possible. Sounds good, my man. 
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:56:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. I'd like to nominate this as the dumbest post of the month |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:56:45 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryTHIS is the way the Republicans need to spin this. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:57:00 AM EST
[#41]
...eh, not worth it.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:58:40 AM EST
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No articles yet from House members that haven’t taken office yet. Last poll showed slight majority still support aid but less than previous polls and before the 45 billion. Probably won’t have more info until January or February.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 11:59:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryYou really think that makes a difference? Mitch and Chuck run the show and they all know it. Those clowns virtue signaling for their low IQ supporters means nothing when push comes to shove. Watch and see. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:01:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. Do you actually believe shit this dumb, or do you just think it sounds good? Goddamn right we should have say what happens with our money, and the spigot needs to be turned off, but it's not like the guy is doing anything I wouldn't expect of a decent American if we were being invaded and faced destruction. In an existential war, I'd beg, borrow, murder, steal, bomb, lie, cheat, and do whatever it took to ensure this nation's survival. It's not his job to look out for our interests, that's ostensibly for POTATUS to do. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:02:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a weak man it takes to go to another country and beg for their money. Better to be prideful and let your people be slaughtered for the sake of your personal dignity. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:04:10 PM EST
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The tool wore a sweatshirt into our capitol building. He's like the "tactical" version of Fetterman.
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:04:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really think that makes a difference? Mitch and Chuck run the show and they all know it. Those clowns virtue signaling for their low IQ supporters means nothing when push comes to shove. Watch and see. Pretty much my SOP is wait and see. Going take a few more months to know one way or the other which way the wind is blowing. Biden originally wanted declining defense budgets but after the Ukraine invasion Congress nixed that, so there’s always wild card factor too. |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:06:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you actually believe shit this dumb, or do you just think it sounds good? Goddamn right we should have say what happens with our money, and the spigot needs to be turned off, but it's not like the guy is doing anything I wouldn't expect of a decent American if we were being invaded and faced destruction. In an existential war, I'd beg, borrow, murder, steal, bomb, lie, cheat, and do whatever it took to ensure this nation's survival. It's not his job to look out for our interests, that's ostensibly for POTATUS to do. Heres the fundamental disagreement, and why this is my last post on this thread; I do not believe we are involved for any righteous reason. I don't drink from the MSM water fountain and I'm not a delusional old man fighting ghosts of Cold War past. I also couldn't care less about either country as America is rotting from the inside. Enjoy dogpiling me now. 
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:06:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The main reason why derpy right wingers are taking an anti-Ukraine stance is so that they can pat themselves on the back for being contrarians who don't take "normie" stances. They define themselves as being redpilled guys who believe themselves to be above "normies" and thus must always take the opposite stance, because they know the "real facts." In reality, though, they don't care about facts. They only care about not being "one of them." They're nothing more than right wing NPCs. Is that a word for word of the 4chan screenshot you posted in another thread lmao |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 12:07:52 PM EST
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Shut it all down.
Fuck Ukraine, Russia and all of Europe. |
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